Re: [Elecraft] FT8 with KX3 and MacBook Pro

2018-03-03 Thread Rick Prather 
I have used JTBridge and liked it but these days my favorite set up is the
combination of WSJT-X and RUMLogNG without JTBridge.

After setting up, using the instructions in RUMLog,  I am able to see Spots
from the Clusters intermixed with local WSJT-x spots in the "DXSpots"
window.  This allows me use RUMLog's excellent color coding system to
decide it I need the Country or Zone in FT8 or any other mode in one window.

Clicking a station in WSJT brings it up in RUMLog, shows previous contacts
with that station or that Country.  Logging is a one click operation that
also can be set to upload it to ClubLog and/or LoTW.

Makes for a nicely integrated set up.

Rick
K6LE



On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Walter Underwood 
wrote:

> Agreed, you probably want to use JT-Bridge. Read the instructions at the
> JTBridge site to get the right configurations and the right startup order
> for JT-Bridge, WSJT-X, and your logging application.
>
> http://jt-bridge.eller.nu/
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
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> CM87wj
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>
> > On Mar 3, 2018, at 10:22 AM, James Bennett  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > No cookbook here, but I do have a MacBook Pro / Retina, WSJT-X, and MLDX
> and occasionally run my KX3 with them. A couple items to consider:
> >
> > —> Strongly suggest running JTBRIDGE if you do not already have it. It
> interfaces very, very nicely between WSJT-X and MLDX. Allows, among other
> things, your completed WSJT-X QSOs to be automatically logged into MLDX.
> >
> > —> You may run into issues where the audio from WSJT-X output is routed
> to your MacBook’s internal speakers instead of the external sound card -
> not a good thing. This is a problem that has been happening for several
> years sporadically to Mac users. It “may” be related to something Apple did
> to USB2 code. There have been several work-arounds posted. One is to try
> USB3 if your MacBook has it. Another is to set your MIDI output to 44,100
> instead of 48,000. And another, the one I use, is a USB to Thunderbolt
> adapter. My external sound card is a Tascam US-125M with USB output. I got
> the adapter on Amazon and plug the sound card into the Thunderbolt adapter.
> Works great.
> >
> > Jim / W6JHB
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 3, 2018, at 4:12 AM, Philip Alley  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there a complete “cookbook” for running FT8 with the KX3+PX3 and a
> MacBook Pro (w OSX 10.13.3)?  I am running MacLogger DX and have ordered a
> Sabrent USB-C tiny sound card.  The WSJT-X is downloaded but not set up
> yet. My KX3 is already communicating with Maclogger DX via USB.
> >>
> >> I am unsure about the additional cabling I need and best strategy for
> rig control.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this road will be greatly
> appreciated.
> >>
> >> TNX
> >> Phil
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 with KX3 and MacBook Pro

2018-03-03 Thread Walter Underwood 
Agreed, you probably want to use JT-Bridge. Read the instructions at the 
JTBridge site to get the right configurations and the right startup order for 
JT-Bridge, WSJT-X, and your logging application.

http://jt-bridge.eller.nu/

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> On Mar 3, 2018, at 10:22 AM, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil,
> 
> No cookbook here, but I do have a MacBook Pro / Retina, WSJT-X, and MLDX and 
> occasionally run my KX3 with them. A couple items to consider:
> 
> —> Strongly suggest running JTBRIDGE if you do not already have it. It 
> interfaces very, very nicely between WSJT-X and MLDX. Allows, among other 
> things, your completed WSJT-X QSOs to be automatically logged into MLDX.
> 
> —> You may run into issues where the audio from WSJT-X output is routed to 
> your MacBook’s internal speakers instead of the external sound card - not a 
> good thing. This is a problem that has been happening for several years 
> sporadically to Mac users. It “may” be related to something Apple did to USB2 
> code. There have been several work-arounds posted. One is to try USB3 if your 
> MacBook has it. Another is to set your MIDI output to 44,100 instead of 
> 48,000. And another, the one I use, is a USB to Thunderbolt adapter. My 
> external sound card is a Tascam US-125M with USB output. I got the adapter on 
> Amazon and plug the sound card into the Thunderbolt adapter. Works great.
> 
> Jim / W6JHB
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 4:12 AM, Philip Alley  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a complete “cookbook” for running FT8 with the KX3+PX3 and a 
>> MacBook Pro (w OSX 10.13.3)?  I am running MacLogger DX and have ordered a 
>> Sabrent USB-C tiny sound card.  The WSJT-X is downloaded but not set up yet. 
>> My KX3 is already communicating with Maclogger DX via USB.
>> 
>> I am unsure about the additional cabling I need and best strategy for rig 
>> control.
>> 
>> Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this road will be greatly 
>> appreciated. 
>> 
>> TNX
>> Phil
>> AA2EA
>> Louisville
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 with KX3 and MacBook Pro

2018-03-03 Thread James Bennett 
Hi Phil,

No cookbook here, but I do have a MacBook Pro / Retina, WSJT-X, and MLDX and 
occasionally run my KX3 with them. A couple items to consider:

—> Strongly suggest running JTBRIDGE if you do not already have it. It 
interfaces very, very nicely between WSJT-X and MLDX. Allows, among other 
things, your completed WSJT-X QSOs to be automatically logged into MLDX.

—> You may run into issues where the audio from WSJT-X output is routed to your 
MacBook’s internal speakers instead of the external sound card - not a good 
thing. This is a problem that has been happening for several years sporadically 
to Mac users. It “may” be related to something Apple did to USB2 code. There 
have been several work-arounds posted. One is to try USB3 if your MacBook has 
it. Another is to set your MIDI output to 44,100 instead of 48,000. And 
another, the one I use, is a USB to Thunderbolt adapter. My external sound card 
is a Tascam US-125M with USB output. I got the adapter on Amazon and plug the 
sound card into the Thunderbolt adapter. Works great.

Jim / W6JHB



> On Mar 3, 2018, at 4:12 AM, Philip Alley  wrote:
> 
> Is there a complete “cookbook” for running FT8 with the KX3+PX3 and a MacBook 
> Pro (w OSX 10.13.3)?  I am running MacLogger DX and have ordered a Sabrent 
> USB-C tiny sound card.  The WSJT-X is downloaded but not set up yet. My KX3 
> is already communicating with Maclogger DX via USB.
> 
> I am unsure about the additional cabling I need and best strategy for rig 
> control.
> 
> Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this road will be greatly 
> appreciated. 
> 
> TNX
> Phil
> AA2EA
> Louisville
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 with KX3 and MacBook Pro

2018-03-03 Thread George Danner 

Phil,
Do use Don's advice on setting up soundcards with Elecraft radios for 
digital modes.


I found this pdf from KA9EAK in setting-up my mobile KX3 for Winmor and 
packet. For me it is a work in progress as I'm waiting for a couple of 
connectors to arrive.

He uses the term PC - not specifically for a MacPro - but might be helpful:
http://www.voyageurlutherie.com/docs/KX2%20Digital%20Mode%20Configuration%20Examples.pdf

73
George  AI4VZ


From: Don Wilhelm

Phil,

There is no "cookbook" that I am aware of.
BUT - FT8 is no different than any other digital mode, although the
application software may be a bit different.

Connect the soundcard input to the headphone jack and the soundcard
output to the MIC input.  Connect the KXUSB cable to the computer.
Use DATA A mode (not SSB).

If you are completely new to digital modes, you might try PSK31 first
using FLdigi or Ham Radio Deluxe to get used to it.

One last IMPORTANT point - Elecraft radios are different than other
manufacturers transceivers.  Much of the internet advice (and some
software instructions) will tell you to set the power high and use the
audio level to control the power.  That does NOT work with Elecraft
radios.  You must first set the audio to produce 4 bars with the 5th bar
flashing on the ALC meter.  Leave it set there and control the power
with the power knob.
See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com - scroll down to the bottom
of the left column and click on the link.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 3/3/2018 7:12 AM, Philip Alley wrote:
Is there a complete “cookbook” for running FT8 with the KX3+PX3 and a 
MacBook Pro (w OSX 10.13.3)?  I am running MacLogger DX and have ordered a 
Sabrent USB-C tiny sound card.  The WSJT-X is downloaded but not set up 
yet. My KX3 is already communicating with Maclogger DX via USB.


I am unsure about the additional cabling I need and best strategy for rig 
control.


Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this road will be greatly 
appreciated.




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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 with KX3 and MacBook Pro

2018-03-03 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Phil,

There is no "cookbook" that I am aware of.
BUT - FT8 is no different than any other digital mode, although the 
application software may be a bit different.


Connect the soundcard input to the headphone jack and the soundcard 
output to the MIC input.  Connect the KXUSB cable to the computer.

Use DATA A mode (not SSB).

If you are completely new to digital modes, you might try PSK31 first 
using FLdigi or Ham Radio Deluxe to get used to it.


One last IMPORTANT point - Elecraft radios are different than other 
manufacturers transceivers.  Much of the internet advice (and some 
software instructions) will tell you to set the power high and use the 
audio level to control the power.  That does NOT work with Elecraft 
radios.  You must first set the audio to produce 4 bars with the 5th bar 
flashing on the ALC meter.  Leave it set there and control the power 
with the power knob.
See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com - scroll down to the bottom 
of the left column and click on the link.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 3/3/2018 7:12 AM, Philip Alley wrote:

Is there a complete “cookbook” for running FT8 with the KX3+PX3 and a MacBook 
Pro (w OSX 10.13.3)?  I am running MacLogger DX and have ordered a Sabrent 
USB-C tiny sound card.  The WSJT-X is downloaded but not set up yet. My KX3 is 
already communicating with Maclogger DX via USB.

I am unsure about the additional cabling I need and best strategy for rig 
control.

Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this road will be greatly 
appreciated.


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[Elecraft] FT8 with KX3 and MacBook Pro

2018-03-03 Thread Philip Alley 
Is there a complete “cookbook” for running FT8 with the KX3+PX3 and a MacBook 
Pro (w OSX 10.13.3)?  I am running MacLogger DX and have ordered a Sabrent 
USB-C tiny sound card.  The WSJT-X is downloaded but not set up yet. My KX3 is 
already communicating with Maclogger DX via USB.

I am unsure about the additional cabling I need and best strategy for rig 
control.

Any suggestions from anyone who has been down this road will be greatly 
appreciated. 

TNX
Phil
AA2EA
Louisville
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and KX3

2017-10-22 Thread Nr4c 
Only one program can control a serial port. 

I log to wsjt and then after the session import the ".adi" file into my logger. 
Use Cortana or other search to locate the ado file. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 22, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> I get this message whenever I have another program using the USB<-->Serial 
> port to the KX3. It is most often my logging program. I just quit the logging 
> program, click "Retry" in WSJT-X and everything is OK.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
>> On 10/20/17 at 2:29 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:
>> 
>> Bob,
>> 
>> Select the K3 in Hamlib if the KX3 is not present in the selections.
>> Other than that I cannot help much with the computer end setup.
>> 
>> FT8 is no different than other soundcard data modes.
>> 
>> On the KX3 part, set the DATA mode to DATA A.  Ignore the common internet 
>> advice for setting the audio and power levels (and the WSJT-X instructions), 
>> and set the KX3 audio level to indicate 4 bars on the ALC meter with the 5th 
>> bar flashing.  Control the power with the power knob.
>> 
>> There is an article on my website www.w3fpr.com to assist you with setting 
>> the audio level.  Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on 
>> the link.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>>> On 10/20/2017 4:54 PM, Bob Cutter wrote:
>>> New to FT8 and KX3 operation.
>>> 
>>> I cannot seem to get them communicating. Error message hamlib failure.
>>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and KX3

2017-10-22 Thread Bill Frantz 
I get this message whenever I have another program using the 
USB<-->Serial port to the KX3. It is most often my logging 
program. I just quit the logging program, click "Retry" in 
WSJT-X and everything is OK.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/20/17 at 2:29 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:


Bob,

Select the K3 in Hamlib if the KX3 is not present in the selections.
Other than that I cannot help much with the computer end setup.

FT8 is no different than other soundcard data modes.

On the KX3 part, set the DATA mode to DATA A.  Ignore the 
common internet advice for setting the audio and power levels 
(and the WSJT-X instructions), and set the KX3 audio level to 
indicate 4 bars on the ALC meter with the 5th bar flashing.  
Control the power with the power knob.


There is an article on my website www.w3fpr.com to assist you 
with setting the audio level.  Scroll down to the bottom of the 
left column and click on the link.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/20/2017 4:54 PM, Bob Cutter wrote:

New to FT8 and KX3 operation.

I cannot seem to get them communicating. Error message hamlib failure.



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working, the
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and KX3

2017-10-20 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Bob,

Select the K3 in Hamlib if the KX3 is not present in the selections.
Other than that I cannot help much with the computer end setup.

FT8 is no different than other soundcard data modes.

On the KX3 part, set the DATA mode to DATA A.  Ignore the common 
internet advice for setting the audio and power levels (and the WSJT-X 
instructions), and set the KX3 audio level to indicate 4 bars on the ALC 
meter with the 5th bar flashing.  Control the power with the power knob.


There is an article on my website www.w3fpr.com to assist you with 
setting the audio level.  Scroll down to the bottom of the left column 
and click on the link.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/20/2017 4:54 PM, Bob Cutter wrote:

New to FT8 and KX3 operation.

I cannot seem to get them communicating. Error message hamlib failure.


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[Elecraft] FT8 and KX3

2017-10-20 Thread Bob Cutter 
New to FT8 and KX3 operation. 

I cannot seem to get them communicating. Error message hamlib failure. 

Suggestions?

Bob KI0G 
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