Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Dave, Do you own either/both the KPA500 or KAT500 and are familiar with their operation? The KPA500 is not involved in the receive path, it is only used for transmitting, so it doesn't cause an issue on receive. When in standby the amp is bypassed and the T/R circuit feeds the input to the output. That output is connected to the KAT500 input. My antenna system, for various bands, is connected to the three outputs. Yes, if I just want to monitor a number of bands/frequencies I can press the KAT500 mode button repeatedly until the unit is in BYPass so that it won't attenuate receive signals. Unless the KAT500 is bypassed the last tuning solution will be applied regardless of band or frequency selected on the rig. Then, for each frequency I want to monitor, I can then press the ANT button on the KAT500 repeatedly until the correct antenna for the desired frequency is selected. Depending on the memory or VFO band/frequency selected it may be necessary to do this repeatedly. This will not work at all in the case of scanning. When done listening on various bands/frequencies and I want to return to transmitting I have to press the KAT500 mode button repeatedly until the unit is in MANual. Then press the ANT button on the KAT500 repeatedly until the correct antenna for the desired frequency is selected. All off this is doable but I'm looking for a more automatic system like that built-in to the Elecraft equipment. It appears that I need to design and build what I want. I've taken up more than enough forum time on this subject so it can be closed. Thanks to All, Ken WA2LBI On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:47 PM Dave wrote: > Ken, > > Can’t you simply press a couple of buttons on the KPA500 and the KAT500 to > listen on a different band? No RF required. No tune required. > > 73, > Dave N8AG > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Ken, Can’t you simply press a couple of buttons on the KPA500 and the KAT500 to listen on a different band? No RF required. No tune required. 73, Dave N8AG Sent from Mail for Windows 10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
John, The radio, an IC-7610, and the fact that I use a HB band data cable to the KPA500, was included in my original post. The band data cable switches the bands on the amp, except for WARC, but there is no communication to the KAT500 so it remains on the last band/frequency and antenna selected at the last application of RF. The problem is that if I am just listening and select another band the KAT500 will not move to the correct band and antenna. This is not a problem if I intend to operate on the new band but it is particularly inconvenient when simply switching between radio memories to check for activity on stored frequencies which could be on any band/antenna. It also affects memory scanning for the same reason. After a band change the KAT500 is not on the correct band and antenna so the received signal is greatly attenuated. Elecraft transceivers "talk" to both the KPA500 and the KAT500 and keep them updated with frequency changes so the KAT500 selects the proper tuning and antenna for the frequency selected on the rig without transmitting. I'm looking for a solution that mimics Elececraft's operation. An Arduino project has been suggested to me and I might need to learn to program one to read Icom CI-V data and communicate with both the KPA500 and KAT500 if I can't find any other solution. Apparently I'm in a very small minority that would find this feature useful. As for using a Top Ten band decoder, or any other decoder, to switch the antenna system external to the KAT500 would not help with the KAT500 issues of remaining on the last RF-selected band and antenna. Simply changing the antenna external to the KAT500 does not help with the KAT500 still being tuned to the wrong band and antenna and attenuating the received signal. *Ken * *WA2LBI * *LG G6 * -- Original message-- *From: *j...@kk9a.com *Date: *Fri, Jun 19, 2020 09:55 *To: *elecraft@mailman.qth.net; *Cc: * *Subject:*Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 The KAT500 only has three outputs which for me is insufficient and I do not even operate WARC bands. For the last couple of decades I have used a Top Ten band decoder to switch antenna relay boxes. This worked perfectly with my Yaesu line and now with my Elecraft K3S's. You did not mention your radio type in this post but if it has a band output you could do the same and always be on the correct antenna. John KK9A Ken wa2lbi wrote: I've had the amp and tuner for more than two years so I know about their RF sensing. It works well when I'm changing bands with the intent of transmitting. However, as I said, that does not work when I am changing bands on the rig to listen to different bands or scanning different bands. If I am on 75M and want to check the conditions on 20M I can't simply select 20M or a 20M memory and listen. I have to transmit so the KT500 will select the correct antenna. If I'm not on a memorized frequency in a KAT500 "bin" it will start tuning, taking up even more time. I'm looking for a solution that presets the KPA500 band, the KAT500 band, and the KAT500 antenna without transmitting. I believe an Elecraft transceiver connected to the KPA500 and KAT500 can do that. Ken WA2LBI __Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa2...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
The KAT500 only has three outputs which for me is insufficient and I do not even operate WARC bands. For the last couple of decades I have used a Top Ten band decoder to switch antenna relay boxes. This worked perfectly with my Yaesu line and now with my Elecraft K3S's. You did not mention your radio type in this post but if it has a band output you could do the same and always be on the correct antenna. John KK9A Ken wa2lbi wrote: I've had the amp and tuner for more than two years so I know about their RF sensing. It works well when I'm changing bands with the intent of transmitting. However, as I said, that does not work when I am changing bands on the rig to listen to different bands or scanning different bands. If I am on 75M and want to check the conditions on 20M I can't simply select 20M or a 20M memory and listen. I have to transmit so the KT500 will select the correct antenna. If I'm not on a memorized frequency in a KAT500 "bin" it will start tuning, taking up even more time. I'm looking for a solution that presets the KPA500 band, the KAT500 band, and the KAT500 antenna without transmitting. I believe an Elecraft transceiver connected to the KPA500 and KAT500 can do that. Ken WA2LBI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I've had the amp and tuner for more than two years so I know about their RF sensing. It works well when I'm changing bands with the intent of transmitting. However, as I said, that does not work when I am changing bands on the rig to listen to different bands or scanning different bands. If I am on 75M and want to check the conditions on 20M I can't simply select 20M or a 20M memory and listen. I have to transmit so the KT500 will select the correct antenna. If I'm not on a memorized frequency in a KAT500 "bin" it will start tuning, taking up even more time. I'm looking for a solution that presets the KPA500 band, the KAT500 band, and the KAT500 antenna without transmitting. I believe an Elecraft transceiver connected to the KPA500 and KAT500 can do that. Ken WA2LBI On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:22 PM Jim Brown wrote: > Hi Ken, > > All it takes to band switch both amp and tuner is a dit or a tap on the > mic. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On 6/18/2020 10:23 AM, Ken Winterling wrote: > > There is no provision at all to communicate with the KAT500 so it > > must RF sense to switch bands and select the correct antenna. While this > > works well when transmitting it is of no value when you are just > listening > > or scanning. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa2...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Hi Ken, All it takes to band switch both amp and tuner is a dit or a tap on the mic. 73, Jim K9YC On 6/18/2020 10:23 AM, Ken Winterling wrote: There is no provision at all to communicate with the KAT500 so it must RF sense to switch bands and select the correct antenna. While this works well when transmitting it is of no value when you are just listening or scanning. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Before the KPA1500 was released, I ran two KPA500s in parallel. On the high bands, a K3 would not drive both amps to 500 watts. The NX1P mod enabled a full 1000 W out on all bands. Ken K6MR From: Phil Hystad via Elecraft<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:28 To: Gmail - George<mailto:gdanne...@gmail.com> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 Why would you modify your KPA500 and risk warranty, repair, and clean signals for a mere 1/2 S-Unit at best? > On Jun 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Gmail - George wrote: > > Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 > watts by a KX3. > She published it - but I can not find it on the web. > The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). > You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. > > The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed back > loop to the microprocessor. > I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 > quit. > I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. > I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to > drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable > cables. > > BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many cautions > regarding doing the modification. > It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input pad. > You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a > transformer. > > Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending on > Elecraft's policies. > Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory > while repairing it. > > As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the > manufacturer is but not you. > > 73 > George AI4VZ > > -Original Message----- > From: Charlie T > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM > To: 'Nr4c' > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to > something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for > "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all > radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the > REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have > HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 > kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek > Cc: Don Putnick ; Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 > needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re > only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gdanne...@gmail.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
The mod applies to the ability to increase the sensitivity (gain) of the amp by bypassing the input attenuator so that it can be driven to a useful power output with a lower power exciter. There isn't any suggestion that the amp should be driven beyond its normal power level. Hence unless the exciter was dirty, clean signals is not part of the equation. Regards, Mike VP8NO 18/06/2020 14:25, Phil Hystad via Elecraft wrote: Why would you modify your KPA500 and risk warranty, repair, and clean signals for a mere 1/2 S-Unit at best? On Jun 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Gmail - George wrote: Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 watts by a KX3. She published it - but I can not find it on the web. The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Why would you modify your KPA500 and risk warranty, repair, and clean signals for a mere 1/2 S-Unit at best? > On Jun 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Gmail - George wrote: > > Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 > watts by a KX3. > She published it - but I can not find it on the web. > The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). > You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. > > The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed back > loop to the microprocessor. > I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 > quit. > I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. > I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to > drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable > cables. > > BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many cautions > regarding doing the modification. > It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input pad. > You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a > transformer. > > Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending on > Elecraft's policies. > Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory > while repairing it. > > As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the > manufacturer is but not you. > > 73 > George AI4VZ > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie T > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM > To: 'Nr4c' > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to > something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for > "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all > radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the > REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have > HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 > kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek > Cc: Don Putnick ; Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 > needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re > only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gdanne...@gmail.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I own a KPA500 and KAT500. Both work very well with my Icom IC-7610 but operation could be improved if they could communicate with the Icom CI-V bus. I do not own a KPA1500 but from my research I see it can communicate directly with the Icom CI-V bus to switch the amp AND the internal tuner/antenna selector when connected to an Icom rig without any RF being transmitted. The KPA500 and KAT500 have no such CI-V capability. The Icom band data connection on the amp works but does not address the WARC bands. There is no provision at all to communicate with the KAT500 so it must RF sense to switch bands and select the correct antenna. While this works well when transmitting it is of no value when you are just listening or scanning. The KAT500 will remain on the last band and antenna where RF was present. For example, my KAT500 has a 75M dipole on ANT 1 and a 40M-10M fan dipole on ANT 2. If I am listening on 75M and then switch bands to 20M the KPA500 will switch bands using the band data cable I built (but not on the WARC bands...) but the KAT500 remains on ANT 1 and tuned for the 75M frequency. Of course, this seriously attenuates the 20M signals. I would like to see a plug-in product that connects to the IC-7610 (or other Icom), the KPA500, and the KAT500 that reads the Icom CI-V bus commands and sets BOTH the KPA500 and KAT500 to the correct band without transmitting, and in the case of the KAT500, also selects the proper antenna for the frequency. Since the KAT500 antenna is assigned per band in the KAT500 programming I believe the KAT500 would only need to know the frequency then it would select the proper antenna from its internal memory. If such an Icom CI-V plug-in device already exists that addresses BOTH the KPA500 and KAT500 issues outlined above please direct me to the product(s). Thanks & 73, Ken WA2LBI On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:29 PM Gmail - George wrote: > Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 > watts by a KX3. > She published it - but I can not find it on the web. > The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). > You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. > > The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed > back > loop to the microprocessor. > I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 > quit. > I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. > I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to > drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable > cables. > > BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many > cautions > regarding doing the modification. > It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input > pad. > You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a > transformer. > > Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending > on > Elecraft's policies. > Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory > while repairing it. > > As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the > manufacturer is but not you. > > 73 > George AI4VZ > > -Original Message----- > From: Charlie T > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM > To: 'Nr4c' > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to > something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for > "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all > radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop > the > REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have > HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of > 25 > kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On > Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek > Cc: Don Putnick ; Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 > needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re > only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > __ > Elecr
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 watts by a KX3. She published it - but I can not find it on the web. The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed back loop to the microprocessor. I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 quit. I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable cables. BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many cautions regarding doing the modification. It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input pad. You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a transformer. Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending on Elecraft's policies. Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory while repairing it. As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the manufacturer is but not you. 73 George AI4VZ -Original Message- From: Charlie T Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM To: 'Nr4c' Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all radios these days? 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have HANDLES on them! (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 kilowatts.) 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Nr4c Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM To: Paul Gacek Cc: Don Putnick ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gdanne...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
NX1P created a modification that is legal for an individual Ham to do at your own risk. It is more complicated than just a jumper. This is the only site I could find it at: https://docplayer.net/22608412-Kpa-500-modifications.html 73, Mark W7MLG On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:34 AM Charlie T wrote: > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to > something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for > "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all > radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the > REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have > HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 > kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek > Cc: Don Putnick ; Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 > needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only > allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all radios these days? 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have HANDLES on them! (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 kilowatts.) 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Nr4c Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM To: Paul Gacek Cc: Don Putnick ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Hi Don, We plan to keep selling and supporting both the KPA500 and KAT500 - Sales remain strong for both. They are also compatible with the K4 and most other HF radios. :-) 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 16, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Don Putnick wrote: > > With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 > and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. > 73 Don NA6Z > __ > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
My whole home station runs on one 120VAC 20A circuit. https://www.qrz.com/db/N7WS for stats. Wes N7WS On 6/17/2020 1:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 6/17/2020 1:44 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: Also nice to have an amp you can run from 120v if needed. Yes. The KPA500 and KAT500 see a lot of use for 7QP and CQP expeditions, and for 6M grid expeditions. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
On 6/17/2020 1:44 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: Also nice to have an amp you can run from 120v if needed. Yes. The KPA500 and KAT500 see a lot of use for 7QP and CQP expeditions, and for 6M grid expeditions. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Also nice to have an amp you can run from 120v if needed. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > The KPA500 and KAT500 are proven QRO products that we'll be shipping for > many years to come. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: >> >> I think a 500W-class amp is a good thing to keep in the product line, >> whether it’s the current KPA500 or KPA500A, or whatever. Not everyone >> necessarily wants or needs a KPA1500. The 500 watt amp is right in line >> with vintage gear like the 30L-1/SB200 — both VERY popular in their day (and >> still widely used) for good reason. I could care less about either the size >> of the cabinet or less than an S-unit. >> >> Grant NQ5T >> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Don Putnick wrote: >>> >>> I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they >>> discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to >>> mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM Don Putnick wrote: >>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. 73 Don NA6Z >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to j...@voodoolab.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
There has been discussion... on Elecraft K4 group. 73, steve On 5/8/20 11:40 AM, N6KR wrote:> Hi Stephen, > > This would be cool, but it's a substantial amount of design work. We've talked about it, but that's about as far as we've gotten. It might depend on demand. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On May 8, 2020, at 8:38 AM, stephen shearer wrote: >> >> Wayne, >> >> Speaking of the KAT500, KPA500, and the K4... >> >> Are there plans to combine the KAT500 and KPA500 into one box matching the K4 ?? >> It would be nice for portable and those that don't want 1500W'sThere has been discussion >> >> 73, steve WB3LGC >> >> On 5/8/20 10:40 AM, N6KR wrote: >>> Hi Brian, >>> This is certainly possible, and a very good idea. We'll add it to the list of potential features. >>> Please describe what you'd like to see on such an information display. >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR On May 7, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Brian wrote: Will the K4 be able to display the operation of KAT500 and KPA 500 when they are remote to the K4, i.e. if they are fairly close but not visible to the operator. >> >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#414): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4/message/414 > Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/74064546/244692 > Group Owner: elecraft-k4+ow...@groups.io > Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4/leave/6751492/1821447238/xyzzy [sm.shearer...@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > On 6/17/20 3:57 PM, Lou W0FK wrote: I doubt Elecraft wold spend money to re-engineer the KPA500/KAT500, invest in new boards, cabinetry, manuals, production/assembly changes, etc. The pair works well as is, and costs zero R or production dollars to continue them as they are. Besides, they'll fit the new K5 profile when it comes out. ;-) 73, Lou W0FK -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to sm.shearer...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
15 dB Wes N7WS On 6/17/2020 12:13 PM, Nr4c wrote: The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I doubt Elecraft wold spend money to re-engineer the KPA500/KAT500, invest in new boards, cabinetry, manuals, production/assembly changes, etc. The pair works well as is, and costs zero R or production dollars to continue them as they are. Besides, they'll fit the new K5 profile when it comes out. ;-) 73, Lou W0FK -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I like combining them. And update to a lightweight switching power supply. Should be less expensive to produce and eliminates dealing with 120 vs 230, transformer taps, voltage sag under load. I have them already and this adds no additional functionality, except easier when I shuffle things around in the shack. Work perfectly as they are so no new purchase for me. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:58 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: > > How about combining them into a single enclosure? > > John KK9A > > > Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > > what could they do that would update them make them taller > like the K4 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to j...@voodoolab.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
On Jun 17, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Bert wrote: > > Maybe it's time to change the law! > > The rest of the world is suffering because of an outdated law in the US! > > Bert VE3NR Elecraft is free to sell export versions of their amps without that limit, so the rest of the world is just fine. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Having both plus the KPA1500 (same height as the K4), that would be a challenge without a major rework. Not just in squeezing it in, but still allow for adequate cooling. If they choose to go down that path, I'd hope they keep the third antenna port (only two on the KPA1500). As for their long term plans; we know they listen but are sly in responding until it's time to announce. 73, Rick NK7I On 6/17/2020 7:19 AM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: Hey, that's a thought. Reinvent them to match the height of the K4 and maybe include the tuner inside the KPA500 box. Chuck Hawley c-haw...@illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Maybe it's time to change the law! The rest of the world is suffering because of an outdated law in the US! Bert VE3NR On 2020-06-17 15:13, Nr4c wrote: The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Jun 17, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote: I think it depends on the use case. I’d rather see the KPA500 v2 made lighter and a third antenna port added. The real icing on the cake would be 10w in and 500w out but I won’t touch that topic too much! This would make it a better “portable” amp. Paul W6PNG/M0SNA www.nomadic.blog On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well. Chuck Hawley c-haw...@illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Don Putnick Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:47 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. 73 Don NA6Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w6...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ve...@bell.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 17, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft > wrote: > > I think it depends on the use case. I’d rather see the KPA500 v2 made > lighter and a third antenna port added. > > The real icing on the cake would be 10w in and 500w out but I won’t touch > that topic too much! > > This would make it a better “portable” amp. > > Paul > W6PNG/M0SNA > www.nomadic.blog > > >> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM, hawley, charles j jr >> wrote: >> >> Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well. >> >> Chuck Hawley >> c-haw...@illinois.edu >> >> Amateur Radio, KE9UW >> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles >> >> >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on >> behalf of Don Putnick >> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:47 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 >> >> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 >> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. >> 73 Don NA6Z >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w6...@yahoo.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
The KPA500 and KAT500 are proven QRO products that we'll be shipping for many years to come. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > I think a 500W-class amp is a good thing to keep in the product line, whether > it’s the current KPA500 or KPA500A, or whatever. Not everyone necessarily > wants or needs a KPA1500. The 500 watt amp is right in line with vintage > gear like the 30L-1/SB200 — both VERY popular in their day (and still widely > used) for good reason. I could care less about either the size of the > cabinet or less than an S-unit. > > Grant NQ5T > >> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Don Putnick wrote: >> >> I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they >> discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to >> mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM Don Putnick wrote: >> >>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the >>> KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. >>> 73 Don NA6Z >>> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I think a 500W-class amp is a good thing to keep in the product line, whether it’s the current KPA500 or KPA500A, or whatever. Not everyone necessarily wants or needs a KPA1500. The 500 watt amp is right in line with vintage gear like the 30L-1/SB200 — both VERY popular in their day (and still widely used) for good reason. I could care less about either the size of the cabinet or less than an S-unit. Grant NQ5T > On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Don Putnick wrote: > > I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they > discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to > mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM Don Putnick wrote: > >> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the >> KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. >> 73 Don NA6Z >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM Don Putnick wrote: > With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the > KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. > 73 Don NA6Z > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I think it depends on the use case. I’d rather see the KPA500 v2 made lighter and a third antenna port added. The real icing on the cake would be 10w in and 500w out but I won’t touch that topic too much! This would make it a better “portable” amp. Paul W6PNG/M0SNA www.nomadic.blog > On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM, hawley, charles j jr > wrote: > > Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well. > > Chuck Hawley > c-haw...@illinois.edu > > Amateur Radio, KE9UW > aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles > > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on > behalf of Don Putnick > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:47 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 > and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. > 73 Don NA6Z > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Charles, your thinking on pairing the amp with tuner inside had great merit and housing it inside of a K4 enclosure. Heck man that is the best idea I have heard. I hope Elecraft takes the move on that especially now since they already have the format for the case made and only have to change the front and back plates and G2G. 73, Morgan Bailey NJ8M On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 9:21 AM hawley, charles j jr wrote: > Hey, that's a thought. Reinvent them to match the height of the K4 and > maybe include the tuner inside the KPA500 box. > > Chuck Hawley > c-haw...@illinois.edu > > Amateur Radio, KE9UW > aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles > > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > on behalf of Bill Steffey NY9H > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:54 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > what could they do that would update them make them taller > like the K4 > > On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote: > > With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the > KPA500 > > and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. > > 73 Don NA6Z > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n...@arrl.net > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mbaileyc...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Hey, that's a thought. Reinvent them to match the height of the K4 and maybe include the tuner inside the KPA500 box. Chuck Hawley c-haw...@illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Bill Steffey NY9H Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:54 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 what could they do that would update them make them taller like the K4 On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote: > With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 > and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. > 73 Don NA6Z > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@arrl.net -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well. Chuck Hawley c-haw...@illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Don Putnick Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:47 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. 73 Don NA6Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
How about combining them into a single enclosure? John KK9A Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: what could they do that would update them make them taller like the K4 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
Make a 12 VDC version to assist disaster communications. Dick KN6AA On Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 06:06 Mike Harris via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > I read it as what would their future availability be, nothing to do with > updating. > > Not uncommon to read about the KPA500 being paired with other > transceiver brands. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > > On 17/06/2020 09:54, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > > what could they do that would update them make them taller > > like the K4 > > > > On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote: > >> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the > >> KPA500 > >> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. > >> 73 Don NA6Z > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dick93...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
I read it as what would their future availability be, nothing to do with updating. Not uncommon to read about the KPA500 being paired with other transceiver brands. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 17/06/2020 09:54, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: what could they do that would update them make them taller like the K4 On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote: With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. 73 Don NA6Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
what could they do that would update them make them taller like the K4 On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote: With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. 73 Don NA6Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@arrl.net -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. 73 Don NA6Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
