Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Email me.

Eric
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> On Dec 30, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> Did anybody explain how to unsubscribe a SK from the list?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Gwen Patton  wrote:
>> 
>> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL
>> file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating
>> the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower
>> case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number,
>> 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on
>> a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey.
>> 
>> https://pwsafe.org/
>> 
>> 73,
>> Gwen, NG3P
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley 
>> wrote:
>> 
 On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:
 Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down
>>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost
>>> pension and a major followup security investigation.
>>> 
>>> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.
>>> 
>>> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking
>>> your password;
>>> 
>>> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember
>>> them all;
>>> 
>>> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password
>>> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.
>>> 
>>> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to
>>> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing
>>> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.
>>> 
>>> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying
>>> solely on passwords.
>>> 
>>> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the
>>> convention that mail to -owner@ will go to a human
>> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL
>> file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating
>> the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower
>> case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number,
>> 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on
>> a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey.
>> 
>> https://pwsafe.org/
>> 
>> 73,
>> Gwen, NG3P
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley 
>> wrote:
>> 
 On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:
 Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down
>>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost
>>> pension and a major followup security investigation.
>>> 
>>> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.
>>> 
>>> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking
>>> your password;
>>> 
>>> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember
>>> them all;
>>> 
>>> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password
>>> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.
>>> 
>>> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to
>>> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing
>>> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.
>>> 
>>> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying
>>> solely on passwords.
>>> 
>>> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the
>>> convention that mail to -owner@ will go to a human
>>> administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this).
>>> Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or
>>> reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to
>>> -request@ and doesn't contain a valid list command.
>>> 
>>> Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message
>>> headers, e.g., for this list:
>>> 
>>> List-Unsubscribe: ,
>>>   
>>> List-Archive: 
>>> List-Post: 
>>> List-Help: 
>>> List-Subscribe: ,
>>>   
>>> 
>>> Amongst other things, the help reply says you can send this to the
>>> -request address:
>>> 
>>>unsubscribe [password] [address=]
>>>Unsubscribe from the mailing list.  If given, your password
>>> must match
>>>your current password.  If omitted, a confirmation email will
>>> be sent
>>>to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an
>>> address
>>>other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify
>>>`address=' (no brackets around the email address, and no
>>>quotes!)

Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Nr4c
Did anybody explain how to unsubscribe a SK from the list?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Gwen Patton  wrote:
> 
> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL
> file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating
> the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower
> case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number,
> 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on
> a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey.
> 
> https://pwsafe.org/
> 
> 73,
> Gwen, NG3P
> 
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:
>>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down
>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost
>> pension and a major followup security investigation.
>> 
>> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.
>> 
>> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking
>> your password;
>> 
>> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember
>> them all;
>> 
>> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password
>> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.
>> 
>> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to
>> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing
>> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.
>> 
>> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying
>> solely on passwords.
>> 
>> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the
>> convention that mail to -owner@ will go to a human
> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL
> file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating
> the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower
> case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number,
> 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on
> a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey.
> 
> https://pwsafe.org/
> 
> 73,
> Gwen, NG3P
> 
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:
>>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down
>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost
>> pension and a major followup security investigation.
>> 
>> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.
>> 
>> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking
>> your password;
>> 
>> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember
>> them all;
>> 
>> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password
>> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.
>> 
>> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to
>> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing
>> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.
>> 
>> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying
>> solely on passwords.
>> 
>> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the
>> convention that mail to -owner@ will go to a human
>> administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this).
>> Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or
>> reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to
>> -request@ and doesn't contain a valid list command.
>> 
>> Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message
>> headers, e.g., for this list:
>> 
>> List-Unsubscribe: ,
>>
>> List-Archive: 
>> List-Post: 
>> List-Help: 
>> List-Subscribe: ,
>>
>> 
>> Amongst other things, the help reply says you can send this to the
>> -request address:
>> 
>> unsubscribe [password] [address=]
>> Unsubscribe from the mailing list.  If given, your password
>> must match
>> your current password.  If omitted, a confirmation email will
>> be sent
>> to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an
>> address
>> other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify
>> `address=' (no brackets around the email address, and no
>> quotes!)
>> 
>> 
>> This does rely on the subscribing address being still valid, but if it
>> is not, the mail bounces should eventually get the subscription
>> terminated, automatically.
>> 

Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks, lets close this way OT password thread now in the interest of relieving 
email overload for others.

73,
Eric
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> On Dec 30, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Gwen Patton  wrote:
> 
> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Gwen Patton
I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL
file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating
the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower
case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number,
12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on
a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey.

https://pwsafe.org/

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley 
wrote:

> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:
> > Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down
> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost
> pension and a major followup security investigation.
>
> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.
>
> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking
> your password;
>
> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember
> them all;
>
> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password
> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.
>
> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to
> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing
> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.
>
> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying
> solely on passwords.
>
> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the
> convention that mail to -owner@ will go to a human
> administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this).
> Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or
> reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to
> -request@ and doesn't contain a valid list command.
>
> Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message
> headers, e.g., for this list:
>
> List-Unsubscribe: ,
> 
> List-Archive: 
> List-Post: 
> List-Help: 
> List-Subscribe: ,
> 
>
> Amongst other things, the help reply says you can send this to the
> -request address:
>
>  unsubscribe [password] [address=]
>  Unsubscribe from the mailing list.  If given, your password
> must match
>  your current password.  If omitted, a confirmation email will
> be sent
>  to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an
> address
>  other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify
>  `address=' (no brackets around the email address, and no
>  quotes!)
>
>
> This does rely on the subscribing address being still valid, but if it
> is not, the mail bounces should eventually get the subscription
> terminated, automatically.
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread David Woolley

On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:

Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords 
will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a 
major followup security investigation.


Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.

Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking 
your password;


Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember 
them all;


Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password 
being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.


Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to 
have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing 
good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.


Any organisation where security is important should not be relying 
solely on passwords.


On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the 
convention that mail to -owner@ will go to a human 
administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this). 
Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or 
reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to 
-request@ and doesn't contain a valid list command.


Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message 
headers, e.g., for this list:


List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,


Amongst other things, the help reply says you can send this to the 
-request address:


unsubscribe [password] [address=]
Unsubscribe from the mailing list.  If given, your password 
must match
your current password.  If omitted, a confirmation email will 
be sent

to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an address
other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify
`address=' (no brackets around the email address, and no
quotes!)


This does rely on the subscribing address being still valid, but if it 
is not, the mail bounces should eventually get the subscription 
terminated, automatically.

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes,  I worked in the corporate world for some 30+ years.   I'm familiar 
with corporate security policy.   However, this is ham radio.  It is a 
hobby.  And the biggest bonus of allI'm retired therefore I 
can't be fired.   I no longer have to concern myself with some measly 
back stabbing Vice President working his way up the Corporate ladder.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 12/29/2018 5:02 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce Schneier, 
recommend writing your passwords down and keeping the list in a safe 
place. We are quite good at securing pieces of paper, like currency, 
and things learned under NDA. We are much poorer at securing things 
accessed through the Internet or resident on our computers.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, w...@w2xj.net (W2xj) wrote:

Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some 
companies that would be cause for termination.

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  
wrote:


I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains 
all of the USER
and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down 
the current password for that account.   And I do change passwords 
frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google 
or any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book 
never forgets a

password nor does it ever crash.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread W2xj
Actually that is not what is usually done. Biometrics and tokens are quite 
common. No matter how you handle them, passwords are dangerous. Mine are 
encrypted on my machines and accessed via biometrics. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yet putting all your passwords in a globally accessible password manager 
> seems to be acceptable to most people, if not everyone.
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> 73 -- Lynn
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 4:04 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down 
>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost 
>> pension and a major followup security investigation.
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Yet putting all your passwords in a globally accessible password manager 
seems to be acceptable to most people, if not everyone.


Go figure.

73 -- Lynn

On 12/29/2018 4:04 PM, W2xj wrote:

Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords 
will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a 
major followup security investigation.

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread W2xj
Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords 
will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a 
major followup security investigation. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 6:02 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce Schneier, recommend 
> writing your passwords down and keeping the list in a safe place. We are 
> quite good at securing pieces of paper, like currency, and things learned 
> under NDA. We are much poorer at securing things accessed through the 
> Internet or resident on our computers.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
>> On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, w...@w2xj.net (W2xj) wrote:
>> 
>> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies 
>> that would be cause for termination.
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of 
>>> the USER
>> and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is designated 
>> for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the current 
>> password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently. I do 
>> not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to 
>> "remember" my passwords.
>>> 
>>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
>>> forgets a
>> password nor does it ever crash.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Fred Jensen
However, should your computer become compromised, your COMPOSITION 
notebook is then available to the thief.  I do the same thing in a text 
file but then encrypt the file and delete the plain text file.  My home 
brew encryption program will open the file and display the contents, and 
allow me to change them, however when it saves the file, it is 
re-encrypted.  I wouldn't recommend storing such data in clear text on 
the computer.


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/29/2018 10:30 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all 
of the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each 
page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to 
write down the current password for that account.   And I do change 
passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I 
allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
forgets a password nor does it ever crash.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Bill Frantz
Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce 
Schneier, recommend writing your passwords down and keeping the 
list in a safe place. We are quite good at securing pieces of 
paper, like currency, and things learned under NDA. We are much 
poorer at securing things accessed through the Internet or 
resident on our computers.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, w...@w2xj.net (W2xj) wrote:

Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some 
companies that would be cause for termination.

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:

I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of the 
USER
and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write 
down the current password for that account.   And I do change 
passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor 
do I allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets a

password nor does it ever crash.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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up the
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[Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread john
I suggested that 11 posts ago:
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2018-December/262577.html
If the SK's email account no longer exists to receive the password than
unsubscribing is not an issue except for the bounced emails which I imagine
the list manager somehow addresses. 

John KK9A


Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Go to: 

Near the bottom of that page is a button that says "unsubscribe or edit 
options" -- put the E-Mail address to be removed there.

That will send an E-Mail with a link.

Click on the link and the address will be removed.  A password probably 
isn't necessary (it's optional, I don't have one).

It's secure because someone has to receive the E-Mail.

73 -- Lynn

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Pretty sure this will work.

Go to: 

Near the bottom of that page is a button that says "unsubscribe or edit 
options" -- put the E-Mail address to be removed there.


That will send an E-Mail with a link.

Click on the link and the address will be removed.  A password probably 
isn't necessary (it's optional, I don't have one).


It's secure because someone has to receive the E-Mail.

73 -- Lynn
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread W2xj
I use biometrics. Facial on my iPhone and fingerprint on my iPad until I 
upgrade to the Pro. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> I use a program called Password Keeper.  I don't know if it is current nor 
> the best, but it works for me.  It is password protected (so you do have to 
> remember one password), and the data file is encripted.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 1:51 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies 
>> that would be cause for termination.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of 
>>> the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
>>> designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the 
>>> current password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently.  
>>>I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other 
>>> application to "remember" my passwords.
>>> 
>>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
>>> forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
I use a program called Password Keeper.  I don't know if it is current 
nor the best, but it works for me.  It is password protected (so you do 
have to remember one password), and the data file is encripted.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 1:51 PM, W2xj wrote:

Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that 
would be cause for termination.

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:

I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of the USER and PASSWORD 
information for every account I use. Each page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of 
room to write down the current password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently.   
  I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to 
"remember" my passwords.

It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets 
a password nor does it ever crash.

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[Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread John Harper
Is your address at QRZ.com valid? Asking for a friend...

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com


>I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of
>the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread W2xj
Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that 
would be cause for termination. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of the 
> USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
> designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the 
> current password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently.
>  I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other 
> application to "remember" my passwords.
> 
> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
> forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 12:16 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone 
>> else.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>>> 
>>> John KK9A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> N4CW wrote
>>> 
>>> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
>>> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
>>> Thanks, Bert N4CW
>>> 
>>> ---
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>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread W2xj
But you have to know the challenge answer to get a password (usually a 
temporary one).

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM,   wrote:
> 
> While I have not tried it, I cannot imagine that it is difficult to figure
> out a password that is emailed to you.
> 
> John 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:16 PM
> To: j...@kk9a.com
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?
> 
> If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone
> else.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> 
>> N4CW wrote
>> 
>> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
>> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
>> Thanks, Bert N4CW
>> 
>> ---
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>> https://www.avg.com
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread john
While I have not tried it, I cannot imagine that it is difficult to figure
out a password that is emailed to you.

John 

-Original Message-
From: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:16 PM
To: j...@kk9a.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone
else.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> N4CW wrote
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> https://www.avg.com
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of 
the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the 
current password for that account.   And I do change passwords 
frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or 
any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
forgets a password nor does it ever crash.


73

Bob, K4TAX



On 12/29/2018 12:16 PM, W2xj wrote:

If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone 
else.

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:

Did either of you try the password reminder option?
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft

John KK9A


N4CW wrote

How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
Thanks, Bert N4CW

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread Pete Lascell
Does your mail handler allow you to automaticly DELETE any messages coming from 
a specific address ?  

Pete W4WWQ 

- Original Message -
From: hawley, charles j jr 
To: brian 
Cc: 
Sent: 12/29/2018 1:10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?


Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email 
account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:29 AM, brian  wrote:
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way to 
> know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
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- Original Message -
From: hawley, charles j jr 
To: brian 
Cc: 
Sent: 12/29/2018 1:10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?


Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email 
account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:29 AM, brian  wrote:
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way to 
> know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread W2xj
If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone 
else.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> N4CW wrote
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> https://www.avg.com
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email 
account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:29 AM, brian  wrote:
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way to 
> know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread john
Did either of you try the password reminder option?
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft

John KK9A


N4CW wrote

How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
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Thanks, Bert N4CW

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[Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-29 Thread brian
How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.

Thanks, Bert N4CW

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