Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-23 Thread ke9uw
Well that must be the result of what Jack said about loading the aux buss if
the KAT is off when you turn on the K3. 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-23 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

I think I found a little thing to improve.
the KAT500 can miss a frequency update from the K3 in a certain situation

To replicate:
- Switch everything on and operate the KAT/KPA/K3 combo as usual with 
KAT500 in manual mode
- Activate the KAT500 utility for monitoring the KAT500 and select the 
Operate tab, here you can see the last observed frequency. See that 
KAT500 follows theK3 freq and switches accordingly.


Now
- set the KAT to BYPass
- Change K3 freq, note that the KAT500 freq info does not follow this.
- Switch KAT to MANual, note that the freq info is still not there
- now transmit with the K3, note that the KAT detects the frequency now 
and switches to the appropriate setting (the old way).


Improvement = KAT500 follows K3 freq in all KAT modes. so also in 
BYPass, and switches to the right setting as soon as you switch to 
MANual or AUTO.



73
Arie PA3A
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-22 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Yes,
The KAT500 needed to be powered first. I also used to do that. That was 
in the 'older firmware times'.


With the current FW, up till now  I never bumped into any issue no 
matter which device was turned on first.


Arie PA3A


Jack Brindle schreef op 21-2-2014 20:34:

The KAT500 needs to be powered on whenever the K3 is on in order to avoid 
loading the Auxbus. It can be powered up at the same time, but must be on 
before the K3 completes its initialization.

The KPA500 has no restriction, and can be powered on any time before or after 
the K3 is turned on.

Jack Brindle, W6FB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-22 Thread ke9uw
My KAT goes on with the bench power supply. Then I turn on the K3 and the the
KPA.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-22 Thread Cady, Fred
Here is how to make it fail:
Disconnect the power completely from the KAT500 (maybe the micro in it stays on 
when it is powered off).
Turn off the K3 with its power switch with the KPA turned on.
Turn on the K3 with the KPA500 on.
I get either a blank K3 LCD display or it is hung up.

To recover:
Turn the power supply to the k3 off.
Plug in the power cable to the KAT500 (I use the same supply as the K3 with a 
Rig runner that powers everything up at once when the K3 turns on).
Turn the K3 and KAT500 power supply on.
Hit the Power On button on the K3.

YMMV.

73 all,
Fred KE7X

The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
www.ke7x.com or www.lulu.com 
(Coming soon: The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station)

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

Yes,
The KAT500 needed to be powered first. I also used to do that. That was in the 
'older firmware times'.

With the current FW, up till now  I never bumped into any issue no matter which 
device was turned on first.

Arie PA3A


Jack Brindle schreef op 21-2-2014 20:34:
 The KAT500 needs to be powered on whenever the K3 is on in order to avoid 
 loading the Auxbus. It can be powered up at the same time, but must be on 
 before the K3 completes its initialization.

 The KPA500 has no restriction, and can be powered on any time before or after 
 the K3 is turned on.

 Jack Brindle, W6FB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-21 Thread ke9uw
Oh yes, I remember now yesterday I got a soft fault on the KPA500. I turned
on the K3, the KAT500 went to the pretuned setting on 40M and then I turned
on the KPA500 and clicked it into operate.
 I said one word and the KPA500 went to standby. No red lights. I returned
it to operate and everything worked well. Forgot about that...not a problem,
but don't know why it did that.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-21 Thread Stephen Prior
Chuck,

I seem to remember reading that the order of turning on the K-line is
important.  I always turn on the KAT500, then the KPA500 followed by the
K3/P3.  I have not had any issues doing things in that order.  Maybe this
is why you had the 'problem'?

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 21 February 2014 10:19, ke9uw c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:

 Oh yes, I remember now yesterday I got a soft fault on the KPA500. I turned
 on the K3, the KAT500 went to the pretuned setting on 40M and then I turned
 on the KPA500 and clicked it into operate.
  I said one word and the KPA500 went to standby. No red lights. I returned
 it to operate and everything worked well. Forgot about that...not a
 problem,
 but don't know why it did that.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-21 Thread Jack Brindle
The KAT500 needs to be powered on whenever the K3 is on in order to avoid 
loading the Auxbus. It can be powered up at the same time, but must be on 
before the K3 completes its initialization.

The KPA500 has no restriction, and can be powered on any time before or after 
the K3 is turned on.

Jack Brindle, W6FB

On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:23 AM, Stephen Prior eastbrantw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chuck,
 
 I seem to remember reading that the order of turning on the K-line is
 important.  I always turn on the KAT500, then the KPA500 followed by the
 K3/P3.  I have not had any issues doing things in that order.  Maybe this
 is why you had the 'problem'?
 
 73 Stephen G4SJP
 
 
 On 21 February 2014 10:19, ke9uw c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 
 Oh yes, I remember now yesterday I got a soft fault on the KPA500. I turned
 on the K3, the KAT500 went to the pretuned setting on 40M and then I turned
 on the KPA500 and clicked it into operate.
 I said one word and the KPA500 went to standby. No red lights. I returned
 it to operate and everything worked well. Forgot about that...not a
 problem,
 but don't know why it did that.
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-21 Thread bill conkling
Sounds great but most of the time my KAT500 won't turn on until I turn on the 
K3.

What now?

...bill nr4c

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Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:

The KAT500 needs to be powered on whenever the K3 is on in order to avoid 
loading the Auxbus. It can be powered up at the same time, but must be on 
before the K3 completes its initialization.

The KPA500 has no restriction, and can be powered on any time before or after 
the K3 is turned on.

Jack Brindle, W6FB

On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:23 AM, Stephen Prior eastbrantw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chuck,
 
 I seem to remember reading that the order of turning on the K-line is
 important.  I always turn on the KAT500, then the KPA500 followed by the
 K3/P3.  I have not had any issues doing things in that order.  Maybe this
 is why you had the 'problem'?
 
 73 Stephen G4SJP
 
 
 On 21 February 2014 10:19, ke9uw c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 
 Oh yes, I remember now yesterday I got a soft fault on the KPA500. I turned
 on the K3, the KAT500 went to the pretuned setting on 40M and then I turned
 on the KPA500 and clicked it into operate.
 I said one word and the KPA500 went to standby. No red lights. I returned
 it to operate and everything worked well. Forgot about that...not a
 problem,
 but don't know why it did that.
 
 
 
 -
 Chuck, KE9UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-21 Thread Jack Brindle
You might want to say how you have the KAT powered. In my station I have a 
relay-switch power panel that I built. The relay is powered by the K3’s 12V 
output jack. When the K3 turns on, it powers the relay, which the switches 12V 
power to the various station boxes, including the KAT500. By the time the K3 is 
ready to talk to the KAT, it is awake and listening, as is the KRC2, P3, etc...

Jack B, W6FB

On Feb 21, 2014, at 5:44 PM, bill conkling n...@widomaker.com wrote:

 Sounds great but most of the time my KAT500 won't turn on until I turn on the 
 K3.
 
 What now?
 
 ...bill nr4c
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
 
 
 Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
 The KAT500 needs to be powered on whenever the K3 is on in order to avoid 
 loading the Auxbus. It can be powered up at the same time, but must be on 
 before the K3 completes its initialization.
 
 The KPA500 has no restriction, and can be powered on any time before or after 
 the K3 is turned on.
 
 Jack Brindle, W6FB
 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:23 AM, Stephen Prior eastbrantw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Chuck,
  
  I seem to remember reading that the order of turning on the K-line is
  important.  I always turn on the KAT500, then the KPA500 followed by the
  K3/P3.  I have not had any issues doing things in that order.  Maybe this
  is why you had the 'problem'?
  
  73 Stephen G4SJP
  
  
  On 21 February 2014 10:19, ke9uw c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
  
  Oh yes, I remember now yesterday I got a soft fault on the KPA500. I turned
  on the K3, the KAT500 went to the pretuned setting on 40M and then I turned
  on the KPA500 and clicked it into operate.
  I said one word and the KPA500 went to standby. No red lights. I returned
  it to operate and everything worked well. Forgot about that...not a
  problem,
  but don't know why it did that.
  
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-21 Thread bill conkling
It's plugged into the same PS as the K3.

...bill

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Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:

You might want to say how you have the KAT powered. In my station I have a 
relay-switch power panel that I built. The relay is powered by the K3’s 12V 
output jack. When the K3 turns on, it powers the relay, which the switches 12V 
power to the various station boxes, including the KAT500. By the time the K3 
is ready to talk to the KAT, it is awake and listening, as is the KRC2, P3, 
etc...


Jack B, W6FB


On Feb 21, 2014, at 5:44 PM, bill conkling n...@widomaker.com wrote:


Sounds great but most of the time my KAT500 won't turn on until I turn on the 
K3.


What now?


...bill nr4c


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID



Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:

The KAT500 needs to be powered on whenever the K3 is on in order to avoid 
loading the Auxbus. It can be powered up at the same time, but must be on 
before the K3 completes its initialization.

The KPA500 has no restriction, and can be powered on any time before or after 
the K3 is turned on.

Jack Brindle, W6FB

On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:23 AM, Stephen Prior eastbrantw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chuck,
 
 I seem to remember reading that the order of turning on the K-line is
 important.  I always turn on the KAT500, then the KPA500 followed by the
 K3/P3.  I have not had any issues doing things in that order.  Maybe this
 is why you had the 'problem'?
 
 73 Stephen G4SJP
 
 
 On 21 February 2014 10:19, ke9uw c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 
 Oh yes, I remember now yesterday I got a soft fault on the KPA500. I turned
 on the K3, the KAT500 went to the pretuned setting on 40M and then I turned
 on the KPA500 and clicked it into operate.
 I said one word and the KPA500 went to standby. No red lights. I returned
 it to operate and everything worked well. Forgot about that...not a
 problem,
 but don't know why it did that.
 
 
 
 -
 Chuck, KE9UW
 --
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-21 Thread Cady, Fred
Check the KAT500 configuration Initial Power screen to see if Power On When DC 
Power Applied is checked.
Fred KE7X

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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:47 PM
To: Jack Brindle
Cc: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

It's plugged into the same PS as the K3.

...bill

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:

You might want to say how you have the KAT powered. In my station I have a 
relay-switch power panel that I built. The relay is powered by the K3’s 12V 
output jack. When the K3 turns on, it powers the relay, which the switches 12V 
power to the various station boxes, including the KAT500. By the time the K3 
is ready to talk to the KAT, it is awake and listening, as is the KRC2, P3, 
etc...


Jack B, W6FB


On Feb 21, 2014, at 5:44 PM, bill conkling n...@widomaker.com wrote:


Sounds great but most of the time my KAT500 won't turn on until I turn on the 
K3.


What now?


...bill nr4c


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID



Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:

The KAT500 needs to be powered on whenever the K3 is on in order to avoid 
loading the Auxbus. It can be powered up at the same time, but must be on 
before the K3 completes its initialization.

The KPA500 has no restriction, and can be powered on any time before or after 
the K3 is turned on.

Jack Brindle, W6FB

On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:23 AM, Stephen Prior eastbrantw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chuck,
 
 I seem to remember reading that the order of turning on the K-line is 
 important.  I always turn on the KAT500, then the KPA500 followed by 
 the K3/P3.  I have not had any issues doing things in that order.  
 Maybe this is why you had the 'problem'?
 
 73 Stephen G4SJP
 
 
 On 21 February 2014 10:19, ke9uw c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 
 Oh yes, I remember now yesterday I got a soft fault on the KPA500. I 
 turned on the K3, the KAT500 went to the pretuned setting on 40M and 
 then I turned on the KPA500 and clicked it into operate.
 I said one word and the KPA500 went to standby. No red lights. I 
 returned it to operate and everything worked well. Forgot about 
 that...not a problem, but don't know why it did that.
 
 
 
 -
 Chuck, KE9UW
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[Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 revs 4.83/1.38/1.58

2014-02-20 Thread Carl Clawson
All working smoothly except:

On a couple occasions, after manually initiating a tune, the tune completed
satisfactorily and then the KPA500 indicated a fault right at the end of
the tune cycle. Pretty sure it was a soft fault but I habitually hit the
button to clear it ... will observe more carefully if it happens again.

73, Carl WS7L
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