Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
I am happy with the present SUB control functions. I run diversity mode for eme (i.e. my main Rx receives vertical polarity 2m and the sub-Rx receives horizontal polarity 2m). I run in split mode to transmit using VFO-B, while my VFO-A stays tuned to 144.130 MHz. 144.130 is the center of a 60 KHz band that MAP65 receives. MAP65 runs JT65 to decode all signals inside the 60-KHz band. I have yet to try diversity reception on HF, but have no reason for the radio functions to be modified for diversity mode. Both receivers need to be tuned to the same frequency when in diversity reception so the VFO-A display is adequate. When running the sub-Rx in non-diversity then VFO-B shows it if unlinked. I vote no change. If this is to be changed then make it selectable as a CONFIG menu item (if that is possible). The KRX3 makes adaptive polarity reception of eme possible. No other commercial radio is this possible that I am aware of. The IQ+ from HB9DRI is a dedicated dual-Rx 2m direct conversion SDR which works elegantly for this. But it is a special piece of equipment for only 2m-eme. 73, Ed - KL7UW - Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:37:19 -0500 From: Richard Ferch ve3...@storm.ca To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co Please relocate the Link/UnLink button. Message-ID: 51362d4f.6030...@storm.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed W4TV wrote: The display is VFO B *not* KRX3 receive frequency - the icon says [B] not [SUB]. This is a key point. Ian's first post in this thread makes it clear that his mental model of the two displays is that they track the two receivers. This mental model may work with a dual-receiver K3 in non-diversity mode, but it is not the most appropriate mental model for a dual-receiver K3 in diversity mode. In diversity mode VFO B does not track with VFO A; it is the subRX that tracks with VFO A. In diversity mode, from the point of view of operating the radio there is a single receiver controlled by VFO A. This receiver uses twice as much hardware as a normal receiver, and it allows two simultaneous antenna inputs instead of only one, but operationally speaking it is a single receiver. In other words, a K3 in diversity mode is functionally similar to a single-receiver K3 or a dual-receiver K3 with the subRX turned off: VFO A always displays the receiver frequency, and the VFO B display indicates where the transmitter will transmit in SPLIT mode. Switching from a VFO A vs. VFO B display model (the current design) to a main RX vs. subRX display model, as Ian has suggested, would waste the capability of the VFO B display in diversity mode (what's the point of dedicating display real estate to a second frequency display if it is forced to be identical to the first display?). Having the VFO B display tell you where the transmitter would be if you invoked SPLIT, exactly the same as it does in a single-receiver K3, is a more effective use of the display resources, particularly for someone wishing to work a split pileup on low bands. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: I am happy with the present SUB control... == I think the proposal is to keep that function as-is, but allow the user to disable it so that the LINK won't come up accidentally when turning on SUB. Like many DXers, I turn the SUB off and on many times in an operating session when working a split pile-up, and an inadvertent LINK is a nuisance. Eric's idea of keeping the present functionality but making it optional seems like a solution that hurts nobody and helps those like me. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
...Eric's idea of keeping the present functionality but making it optional seems like a solution that hurts nobody and helps those like me. Tony KT0NY Elecraft's added menu option will help everyone, especially DXpedition operations. There is no downside and no impact to the current Link/UnLink operator interface. The Link/UnLink button is not being relocated. Terry K4RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
My name's Gary and I'm a DXer. I can't recall accidentally LINKing VFOs for a good year or more, not since I started using macros to drop into and out of split mode, set up the audio and filters etc. Couldn't the issue of DXpeditioners accidentally LINKing VFOs, or perhaps tuning the wrong VFO or nudging the knob, be solved simply by them locking their transmit VFO? FWIW I vote to fix other longstanding firmware bugs rather than fiddle with LINK, e.g.: - The CW/PTT sequencing glitch that sometimes screws up my CW if I release the PTT while still sending; - CW-in-SSB function producing no output but appearing to key the K3, sometimes (QSK+ related if I recall correctly); - The power surge that happens if I trigger the previous bug, then change to CW mode and hit the key (this one trips the KPA500 alarm and makes me say ouch!) CW-in-DATA-A could be useful too, in order to send a brief CW message to someone at the end of a RTTY or PSK QSO, or send QRZ, QRL or WRONG SIDEBAND or whatever. 73 Gary ZL2iFB -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony Estep Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013 3:59 a.m. To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co Please relocate the Link/UnLink button. On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: I am happy with the present SUB control... == I think the proposal is to keep that function as-is, but allow the user to disable it so that the LINK won't come up accidentally when turning on SUB. Like many DXers, I turn the SUB off and on many times in an operating session when working a split pile-up, and an inadvertent LINK is a nuisance. Eric's idea of keeping the present functionality but making it optional seems like a solution that hurts nobody and helps those like me. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
I use linking quite a bit, when doing diversity reception; it would be nice to have it as handy as it currently is... 73 de Dave, W5SV A manual Link control is not necessary for diversity reception. 'Sync and link' already happen automatically when entering Diversity mode. If the manual Link control is removed, Diversity would then become the easily accessible 'hold' feature of the SUB button (available if the second receiver is present, otherwise having no effect). Another source of confusion in Diversity mode is the frequency display for VFO B, which is not the true frequency of that VFO. (Obscurely, it is the frequency that VFO B *would* jump to on TX, *if* the operator *also* chooses to engage SPLIT.) That false frequency indication can easily mislead the operator into believing that the two VFOs have not been successfully synchronized. In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
Yes, I have found that confusing at times. It would be nice if that could be tidied up as well. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 08:03:36 -, Ian White wrote: Another source of confusion in Diversity mode is the frequency display for VFO B, which is not the true frequency of that VFO. (Obscurely, it is the frequency that VFO B *would* jump to on TX, *if* the operator *also* chooses to engage SPLIT.) That false frequency indication can easily mislead the operator into believing that the two VFOs have not been successfully synchronized. In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
If so, defenitely opt-in here. Let me share why, although I seldom use the link function through the 'sub' button. In the big contests I often use diversity reception. There are situations that when called, I want to listen to the sub rx or to the main rx only. That is fixed by setting macro's in the function keys of the logging software (in my case N1MM logger) F12 - Link function - sets both RXs to same frequency, same mode and BW and LINKs de VFO's. The F12 is the set-up button so to speak. F11 - listen diversity - macro sets listening to A - b F10 - listen sub rx - macro sets listening to b - b F9 - listen main rx - macro sets listening to A - A After setting up with F12, using LINK, I find myself switching through the different options quite a lot. Other operators also love it. (Yes, the K3 is a very popular rig at the clubstation) If I have no computer is available, I do this by hand. So opt-in here. 73 Arie PA3A -- There is an indication that the frequency is linked: a flashing decimal point on the VFO B display. But since VFO linking is rarely used, I'll add a menu entry to opt in. 73, Wayne N6KR -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
See questions and comments below. Begin forwarded message: From: Ian White gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co Please relocate the Link/UnLink button. Date: March 5, 2013 3:03:36 AM EST To: 'Wayne Burdick' n...@elecraft.com, 'David F. Reed' w5sv.d...@gmail.com Cc: 'elecraft' elecraft@mailman.qth.net A manual Link control is not necessary for diversity reception. 'Sync and link' already happen automatically when entering Diversity mode. If the manual Link control is removed, Diversity would then become the easily accessible 'hold' feature of the SUB button (available if the second receiver is present, otherwise having no effect). I would love having Diversity become the easily accessible HOLD feature of the SUB button, as suggested by Ian. But if the manual Link control is removed, how would one then engage it for non-Diversity applications? Another source of confusion in Diversity mode is the frequency display for VFO B, which is not the true frequency of that VFO. (Obscurely, it is the frequency that VFO B *would* jump to on TX, *if* the operator *also* chooses to engage SPLIT.) That false frequency indication can easily mislead the operator into believing that the two VFOs have not been successfully synchronized. In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. I understand Ian's point about confusion in Diversity mode; I suffered from that the first few hundred times I used it, too. However...I think I'd still like to see where VFO B would jump to on TX before engaging the SPLIT button. For me, a better solution would be to dim the VFO B display (relative to VFO A intensity) when in Diversity mode and Split has not been selected. (I have no idea if that would be possible.) The slowly blinking decimal point is a bit too subtle and requires me to stare at it far too long to be the right way to indicate Diversity mode for me. Bud, W2RU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
How about a blinking vfo [B] for diversity ? I, too, find it cumbersome to look for the blinking dot with my telescope. Since all the action is on one band , we're only interested in the vfo B digits after the first decimal point. That leaves the first two digit spots open for indicating something else ( if that's possible). ( Hi, Bud ) Paul WB2ABD I understand Ian's point about confusion in Diversity mode; I suffered from that the first few hundred times I used it, too. However...I think I'd still like to see where VFO B would jump to on TX before engaging the SPLIT button. For me, a better solution would be to dim the VFO B display (relative to VFO A intensity) when in Diversity mode and Split has not been selected. (I have no idea if that would be possible.) The slowly blinking decimal point is a bit too subtle and requires me to stare at it far too long to be the right way to indicate Diversity mode for me. Bud, W2RU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. Please, NO! One *wants* VFO B visible precisely so the split transmit frequency can be set accurately without disengaging split. The VFO B frequency (*not* the KRX3 frequency) should not be hidden or disabled simply because it is not being used unless the operator chooses one of the alternative display parameters. More to the point, split or dual Rx should override an alternate (Time, PA Temp, etc.) display in the VFO B area and restore VFO B control to the encoder. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/5/2013 3:10 AM, Stewart wrote: Yes, I have found that confusing at times. It would be nice if that could be tidied up as well. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 08:03:36 -, Ian White wrote: Another source of confusion in Diversity mode is the frequency display for VFO B, which is not the true frequency of that VFO. (Obscurely, it is the frequency that VFO B *would* jump to on TX, *if* the operator *also* chooses to engage SPLIT.) That false frequency indication can easily mislead the operator into believing that the two VFOs have not been successfully synchronized. In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
If the manual Link control is removed, Diversity would then become the easily accessible 'hold' feature of the SUB button (available if the second receiver is present, otherwise having no effect). I would love having Diversity become the easily accessible HOLD feature of the SUB button, as suggested by Ian. But if the manual Link control is removed, how would one then engage it for non-Diversity applications? Even if manual link control through the SUB button is disabled, the same functions are still available through a macro: LN1(link) or LN0 (unlink). In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. I understand Ian's point about confusion in Diversity mode; I suffered from that the first few hundred times I used it, too. However...I think I'd still like to see where VFO B would jump to on TX before engaging the SPLIT button. For me, a better solution would be to dim the VFO B display (relative to VFO A intensity) when in Diversity mode and Split has not been selected. (I have no idea if that would be possible.) The slowly blinking decimal point is a bit too subtle and requires me to stare at it far too long to be the right way to indicate Diversity mode for me. That's for sure: the blinking decimal point - or points - are far too easily overlooked. Worse still, without a close study of the manual they are totally meaningless. We have just seen this embarrassingly demonstrated at TX5K. So please make the VFO link/sync status as obvious as possible: have the VFO B display show the true VFO B frequency at all times - not blinking, not blanked but simply telling the truth. (The only exception should be after Diversity and Split have *both* been selected.) 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. Please, NO! One *wants* VFO B visible precisely so the split transmit frequency can be set accurately without disengaging split. Set accurately without DISengaging split? I'm confused; that comment bears no relation to what I wrote. Please read again what I wrote, Joe. If Split is engaged within Diversity mode, my proposal would have VFOB display the split TX frequency - exactly as it does now. But that information should only be displayed AFTER the operator has actively requested it by selecting Split. My point is: if the operator has NOT chosen to select Split within Diversity mode, then the present display is irrelevant and misleading. It needs to be changed to show the true status, which is VFO B tracking with VFO A on the same frequency. 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
Set accurately without DISengaging split? I'm confused; that comment bears no relation to what I wrote. That should have been without disengaging diversity. If Split is engaged within Diversity mode, my proposal would have VFOB display the split TX frequency - exactly as it does now. But that information should only be displayed AFTER the operator has actively requested it by selecting Split. This is exactly what I *don't* want - I don't want to loose the ability to read VFO B *even when in diversity* because it becomes impossible to set a tentative split frequency without either engaging split or ending diversity. The display is VFO B *not* KRX3 receive frequency - the icon says [B] not [SUB]. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/5/2013 11:16 AM, Ian White wrote: In normal diversity reception, the display should show the *true* VFO B frequency - reassuringly synchronized and slaved to VFO A. It should only display that alternative frequency if SPLIT has actually been selected. Please, NO! One *wants* VFO B visible precisely so the split transmit frequency can be set accurately without disengaging split. Set accurately without DISengaging split? I'm confused; that comment bears no relation to what I wrote. Please read again what I wrote, Joe. If Split is engaged within Diversity mode, my proposal would have VFOB display the split TX frequency - exactly as it does now. But that information should only be displayed AFTER the operator has actively requested it by selecting Split. My point is: if the operator has NOT chosen to select Split within Diversity mode, then the present display is irrelevant and misleading. It needs to be changed to show the true status, which is VFO B tracking with VFO A on the same frequency. 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
W4TV wrote: The display is VFO B *not* KRX3 receive frequency - the icon says [B] not [SUB]. This is a key point. Ian's first post in this thread makes it clear that his mental model of the two displays is that they track the two receivers. This mental model may work with a dual-receiver K3 in non-diversity mode, but it is not the most appropriate mental model for a dual-receiver K3 in diversity mode. In diversity mode VFO B does not track with VFO A; it is the subRX that tracks with VFO A. In diversity mode, from the point of view of operating the radio there is a single receiver controlled by VFO A. This receiver uses twice as much hardware as a normal receiver, and it allows two simultaneous antenna inputs instead of only one, but operationally speaking it is a single receiver. In other words, a K3 in diversity mode is functionally similar to a single-receiver K3 or a dual-receiver K3 with the subRX turned off: VFO A always displays the receiver frequency, and the VFO B display indicates where the transmitter will transmit in SPLIT mode. Switching from a VFO A vs. VFO B display model (the current design) to a main RX vs. subRX display model, as Ian has suggested, would waste the capability of the VFO B display in diversity mode (what's the point of dedicating display real estate to a second frequency display if it is forced to be identical to the first display?). Having the VFO B display tell you where the transmitter would be if you invoked SPLIT, exactly the same as it does in a single-receiver K3, is a more effective use of the display resources, particularly for someone wishing to work a split pileup on low bands. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
Today it happened again for TX5K, last year for PT0S and HK0NA, probably for other DX stations as well: The DX station TX frequency is jumping up/down. And the reason is: The Link function is activated when holding down the SUB rx button for a short period of time, and there is no indications in the display to tell that the VFO's are linked. The operators is probably going to use the Lock function, on the RATE button, instead push the SUB button (yes, lock is clearly labelled above the SUB button.) I suggest to make Link/UnLink as a Menu option instead of a hidden function on the SUB button _ 73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
I suggest to make Link/UnLink as a Menu option instead of a hidden function on the SUB button I agree ... or at least make it the third function on the SUB instead of the second. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/4/2013 9:58 AM, LA8AW wrote: Today it happened again for TX5K, last year for PT0S and HK0NA, probably for other DX stations as well: The DX station TX frequency is jumping up/down. And the reason is: The Link function is activated when holding down the SUB rx button for a short period of time, and there is no indications in the display to tell that the VFO's are linked. The operators is probably going to use the Lock function, on the RATE button, instead push the SUB button (yes, lock is clearly labelled above the SUB button.) I suggest to make Link/UnLink as a Menu option instead of a hidden function on the SUB button _ 73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
This illustrates why the K3 needs more programmable buttons. I programmed this function on M2 button since I never need memories. The unlink is done the programmed M4 button--in conjunction with unsplit. I use this a lot. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 3/4/2013 14:58, LA8AW wrote: Today it happened again for TX5K, last year for PT0S and HK0NA, probably for other DX stations as well: The DX station TX frequency is jumping up/down. And the reason is: The Link function is activated when holding down the SUB rx button for a short period of time, and there is no indications in the display to tell that the VFO's are linked. The operators is probably going to use the Lock function, on the RATE button, instead push the SUB button (yes, lock is clearly labelled above the SUB button.) I suggest to make Link/UnLink as a Menu option instead of a hidden function on the SUB button _ 73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2641/5647 - Release Date: 03/04/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2641/5647 - Release Date: 03/04/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
There is an indication that the frequency is linked: a flashing decimal point on the VFO B display. But since VFO linking is rarely used, I'll add a menu entry to opt in. 73, Wayne N6KR On Mar 4, 2013, at 6:58 AM, LA8AW wrote: Today it happened again for TX5K, last year for PT0S and HK0NA, probably for other DX stations as well: The DX station TX frequency is jumping up/down. And the reason is: The Link function is activated when holding down the SUB rx button for a short period of time, and there is no indications in the display to tell that the VFO's are linked. The operators is probably going to use the Lock function, on the RATE button, instead push the SUB button (yes, lock is clearly labelled above the SUB button.) I suggest to make Link/UnLink as a Menu option instead of a hidden function on the SUB button _ 73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
Not to sound like too much of a sycophant, but I suppose this kind of thing is why I've drunk deeply of the Elecraft Kool-Aid. It's hard to imagine Ickensu responding to a concern like this in this way. 73, Scott, N9AA On 3/4/13 12:13 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: There is an indication that the frequency is linked: a flashing decimal point on the VFO B display. But since VFO linking is rarely used, I'll add a menu entry to opt in. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
I use linking quite a bit, when doing diversity reception; it would be nice to have it as handy as it currently is... 73 de Dave, W5SV On 3/4/13 11:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: There is an indication that the frequency is linked: a flashing decimal point on the VFO B display. But since VFO linking is rarely used, I'll add a menu entry to opt in. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Eric Co.... Please relocate the Link/UnLink button.
It will still be handy, but you'll need to tap a switch in a menu entry (one time) to enable it. I hope this isn't too inconvenient. Wayne On Mar 4, 2013, at 9:40 AM, David F. Reed wrote: I use linking quite a bit, when doing diversity reception; it would be nice to have it as handy as it currently is... 73 de Dave, W5SV On 3/4/13 11:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: There is an indication that the frequency is linked: a flashing decimal point on the VFO B display. But since VFO linking is rarely used, I'll add a menu entry to opt in. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
