[Elecraft] KAT500 autotune save

2019-10-04 Thread Andy Durbin
The KAT500 appears to always save the result of an autotune (FT;) to the 
current frequency's tuning memory.  Sometimes I want to run autotune so I can 
see what solution the KAT500 derives but I don't want it to override my current 
tuning solution until I have inspected and checked it.

Is there any serial command that will perform an autotune but not save the 
tuning solution?  I would like to have the option to manually issue the SM; 
command when FT; completes.

Thanks and 73,
Andy, k3wyc


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[Elecraft] KAT500 autotune

2014-02-23 Thread PKA
KAT 01.58 is working nicely. But still, if Your antennas are changing impedance 
as the WX changes (which I can confirm is the case when antennas are mounted in 
or very close to trees :-) You are going to hear these sometimes lengthy 
clickety-clack. Even when making two configurations (one for dry and one for 
wet WX) You have all shades in between, so once in a while You are going to 
have the relays going crazy again. At least it happens to me.
This made me think if it might be avoided keeping in mind that the K3 ATU does 
the tuning a lot less noisy.

I think others have suggested a firmware change making autotune of KAT500 
initiate from the K3. This may be an interesting way to get rid of the 
clickety-clack of the KAT500 if done as follows when selecting TUNE on the K3 
(new mode: KAT500):
- KAT500 enter bypass (KPA enters STBY) and K3 performs the autotune
- K3 ATU config transfers to KAT500
- K3 ATU changes to BYPASS
- KAT500 changes to MANUAL
if the cables from K3 to KPA are not so good it may be that the KAT needs to 
fine tune. So a fine tune of the KAT might be a good idea.

73/OZ4UN
Poul-Erik

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 autotune

2014-02-23 Thread Stephen Prior
An ingenious idea but I think there is a flaw in the argument, in that at
the position of the K3's ATU there will be a different impedance to match
than is the case at the KAT500's position further along the line.  Not only
will the impedance move around the Smith Chart a bit but there is also the
input impedance of the KPA500 to consider.  Maybe in practice all of the
above may have a negligible effect, but I somehow doubt it.

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 23 February 2014 12:58, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) p...@telepost.gl wrote:

 KAT 01.58 is working nicely. But still, if Your antennas are changing
 impedance as the WX changes (which I can confirm is the case when antennas
 are mounted in or very close to trees :-) You are going to hear these
 sometimes lengthy clickety-clack. Even when making two configurations (one
 for dry and one for wet WX) You have all shades in between, so once in a
 while You are going to have the relays going crazy again. At least it
 happens to me.
 This made me think if it might be avoided keeping in mind that the K3 ATU
 does the tuning a lot less noisy.

 I think others have suggested a firmware change making autotune of KAT500
 initiate from the K3. This may be an interesting way to get rid of the
 clickety-clack of the KAT500 if done as follows when selecting TUNE on the
 K3 (new mode: KAT500):
 - KAT500 enter bypass (KPA enters STBY) and K3 performs the autotune
 - K3 ATU config transfers to KAT500
 - K3 ATU changes to BYPASS
 - KAT500 changes to MANUAL
 if the cables from K3 to KPA are not so good it may be that the KAT needs
 to fine tune. So a fine tune of the KAT might be a good idea.

 73/OZ4UN
 Poul-Erik

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 autotune

2014-02-23 Thread PKA
Yes Stephen thats true. The cable length is the cable from K3 to KPA plus KPA 
input to output (50 ohm straight through if in STBY) plus the cable KPA to KAT 
plus the KAT input to output in BYPASS (50 ohm straight through?). In my case 
it might be a total of 1.5 meter which is much on 6m but not very much on 160m. 
Still it might be a lot less relay chattering in the KAT500 even if it needs to 
include a fine tuning.

I had another idea, which unfortunately requires a big hardware change: install 
smaller and quieter relays, one in parallel with each of the bigger relays. Do 
the (low power) tuning using the small relays and then copy the relay config to 
the bigger relays and open the smaller ones. Maybe for the next generation 
KAT.

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 Den 23/02/2014 kl. 14.44 skrev Stephen Prior eastbrantw...@gmail.com:
 
 An ingenious idea but I think there is a flaw in the argument, in that at
 the position of the K3's ATU there will be a different impedance to match
 than is the case at the KAT500's position further along the line.  Not only
 will the impedance move around the Smith Chart a bit but there is also the
 input impedance of the KPA500 to consider.  Maybe in practice all of the
 above may have a negligible effect, but I somehow doubt it.
 
 73 Stephen G4SJP
 
 
 On 23 February 2014 12:58, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) p...@telepost.gl wrote:
 
 KAT 01.58 is working nicely. But still, if Your antennas are changing
 impedance as the WX changes (which I can confirm is the case when antennas
 are mounted in or very close to trees :-) You are going to hear these
 sometimes lengthy clickety-clack. Even when making two configurations (one
 for dry and one for wet WX) You have all shades in between, so once in a
 while You are going to have the relays going crazy again. At least it
 happens to me.
 This made me think if it might be avoided keeping in mind that the K3 ATU
 does the tuning a lot less noisy.
 
 I think others have suggested a firmware change making autotune of KAT500
 initiate from the K3. This may be an interesting way to get rid of the
 clickety-clack of the KAT500 if done as follows when selecting TUNE on the
 K3 (new mode: KAT500):
 - KAT500 enter bypass (KPA enters STBY) and K3 performs the autotune
 - K3 ATU config transfers to KAT500
 - K3 ATU changes to BYPASS
 - KAT500 changes to MANUAL
 if the cables from K3 to KPA are not so good it may be that the KAT needs
 to fine tune. So a fine tune of the KAT might be a good idea.
 
 73/OZ4UN
 Poul-Erik
 
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