Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
100% agree,I have been using the CM-500 for almost a year now on my K3,TX and RX audio is awesome,construction quality is superior to Heil boomsets,and the price is just $54 instead of over a hundred from Heil,you can have it on your easrs for many hours without been feeling tired.Either for punchy dx audio or for ESSB wider audio,the CM-500 have to be the choice,73 AD4C If you see a driver handling a cell phone on her/his hands while driving,do please stay away from that vehicle,its a moving bomb.Your life is at danger.Keep yourself and your family alive --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6 To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 12:59 AM Joe, Good advice. I concur I have never been happy with any of the 3 Heil Mic's I have had. Too much money for so little quality..just my 2cents..keep the change!...(:-)) Gary On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. The Heil HC elements are dynamic ... no bias! Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? It's a mic PTT adapter (Heil AD1-K). How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 instead of any Heil headset. The CM-500 is every bit the equal of the Heil ProSet iC for less than 1/3 the price (ca., $45 at BH Photovideo). The CM-500 mic behaves just the same as the iC element ... roll off the bottom three bands and add some modest boost at 1600/2400/3200 Hz and you will have super audio with plenty of punch. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/26/2010 7:44 PM, Linda and Bob wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from Elecraft? How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
Add my vote for the Yamaha CM500. I have retired my BM5-4, BM10-4 and my Koss SB40 modified with a DX4 capsule and moved my ProSet DX4 to the portable kit. I use the CM500 exclusively now with great results, plus, my glasses small piano wire frame legs dont cause creases in my temples anymore. The CM500 is extremely comfortable and sounds just wonderful, both for receiving and transmitting! -lu-w4lt- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from Elecraft? How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
I have the Heil Pro Elite HC6 (not the Pro iC) and it works great with the K3. I've adjusted the TX equalizer to make it sound almost like the Heil Goldline and set another TX equalizer setting to make it sound like an HC5. The Pro Elite uses the same adapter as the the other Heil boomsets that don't need bias (the Kenwood adapter). The HC6 has a very wide response curve and I needed to adjust the first three equalizer bands way down or it sounded very muddy. I also boosted the highs to add some presence but that may depend on your voice. Robert N9EF On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Linda and Bob wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from Elecraft? How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. The Heil HC elements are dynamic ... no bias! Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? It's a mic PTT adapter (Heil AD1-K). How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 instead of any Heil headset. The CM-500 is every bit the equal of the Heil ProSet iC for less than 1/3 the price (ca., $45 at BH Photovideo). The CM-500 mic behaves just the same as the iC element ... roll off the bottom three bands and add some modest boost at 1600/2400/3200 Hz and you will have super audio with plenty of punch. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/26/2010 7:44 PM, Linda and Bob wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from Elecraft? How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
Joe, Good advice. I concur I have never been happy with any of the 3 Heil Mic's I have had. Too much money for so little quality..just my 2cents..keep the change!...(:-)) Gary On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. The Heil HC elements are dynamic ... no bias! Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? It's a mic PTT adapter (Heil AD1-K). How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 instead of any Heil headset. The CM-500 is every bit the equal of the Heil ProSet iC for less than 1/3 the price (ca., $45 at BH Photovideo). The CM-500 mic behaves just the same as the iC element ... roll off the bottom three bands and add some modest boost at 1600/2400/3200 Hz and you will have super audio with plenty of punch. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/26/2010 7:44 PM, Linda and Bob wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from Elecraft? How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
From Heil advertising, the HC-6 is a Dynamic Element, not an electret type like the IC units they make for ICOM and others including Elecraft. Therefore it does not require BIAS and would use the regular Kenwood adapter for front panel connections. I have had great success with the Yamaha CM-500 headset, and it plugs right into the real jacks. ...bd nr4c s/n K3-4536 -Original Message- From: Linda and Bob [mailto:dlrwi...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 7:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6 Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from Elecraft? How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
+ 1 on the Yamaha CM-500 recommendation. And I have a Heil. 73, Mike NF4L On 8/26/2010 8:53 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. The Heil HC elements are dynamic ... no bias! Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? It's a mic PTT adapter (Heil AD1-K). How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 instead of any Heil headset. The CM-500 is every bit the equal of the Heil ProSet iC for less than 1/3 the price (ca., $45 at BH Photovideo). The CM-500 mic behaves just the same as the iC element ... roll off the bottom three bands and add some modest boost at 1600/2400/3200 Hz and you will have super audio with plenty of punch. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/26/2010 7:44 PM, Linda and Bob wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? Is that a separate option from Elecraft? How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? Thanks. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
Joe, The Proset iC is an electret element designed for use with Icom radios. All Heil microphones are not created equal, the type designation is important. Yes, I believe Heil products are overpriced, but that is a different story. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/26/2010 8:53 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. The Heil HC elements are dynamic ... no bias! Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? It's a mic PTT adapter (Heil AD1-K). How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
Hi Joe. Using a CM-500 and microKeyer II, are you plugging into the mKer or directly into the back panel of the K3? Thanks. Rich NU6T Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: snip I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 instead of any Heil headset. The CM-500 is every bit the equal of the Heil ProSet iC for less than 1/3 the price (ca., $45 at BH Photovideo). The CM-500 mic behaves just the same as the iC element ... roll off the bottom three bands and add some modest boost at 1600/2400/3200 Hz and you will have super audio with plenty of punch. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Heil Elite iC pro set with HC-6
Don, The Proset iC is an electret element designed for use with Icom radios. All Heil microphones are not created equal, the type designation is important. The original question (which I quoted) mixed the two elements but the answers are still correct: the HC6 element should have no bias and the CM-500 performs as well or better than either the Proset Elite iC or Proset Elite HC6. The Proset Elite is available in two versions HC-6 (full range dynamic broadcast element) and iC (specially designed high performance electret condenser). The iC element is used in all of the Heil iC mics including the Proset K2/K3, Proset iC, Proset Elite iC, Quiet Phone iC, BM10 iC, Handi Mic iC, and iCM . The Yamaha mic is spec'd at 100 - 20K vs. 80 - 12.5K for the iC element or 100 - 12.5K for the HC-6. In either case, the difference in specifications are insignificant and certainly don't justify 3 x the price - street prices: $44 for CM-500 (BH Photo) vs. $149 for Proset Elite HC6 or $159 for Proset Elite iC (R L Electronics). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/26/2010 10:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Joe, The Proset iC is an electret element designed for use with Icom radios. All Heil microphones are not created equal, the type designation is important. Yes, I believe Heil products are overpriced, but that is a different story. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/26/2010 8:53 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Does anyone use the newer Heil Pro iC Elite headset with the HC-6 element? Elecraft does not have that model available. I imagine that you will have to set the bias voltage for the mic. The Heil HC elements are dynamic ... no bias! Can you use this with the K3 mic/earphone adapter? It's a mic PTT adapter (Heil AD1-K). How well does the Elecraft Heil Pro iC headset work with the K3? Do I need to spend more money on the HC-6 version? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
