Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread James Bennett
I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, 
from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched 
since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and 
disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this 
weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe 
someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.

Jim


 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel 
 san...@frawg.org wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed 
 is set to 38,400 on all devices.
 
 I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained 
 together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just 
 that way.
 
 Jack - KD4IZ
 
 On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I 
 am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. 
 If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon 
 as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using 
 Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to 
 the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac 
 being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread Tom Schaefer
Can you try a different computer?

Principal Solutions Architect
Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
727-437-2771

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, 
 from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched 
 since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and 
 disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day 
 this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. 
 Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday 
 morning.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel 
 san...@frawg.org wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port 
 speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
 
 I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy 
 chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain 
 dead just that way.
 
 Jack - KD4IZ
 
 On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today 
 I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered 
 on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As 
 soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using 
 Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to 
 the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my 
 iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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[Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread James Bennett
Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am 
unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I 
turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the 
PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied 
cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 
on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 
and KX3 appear to be working just fine.

Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?

Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread David Ahrendts
My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that it’s 
the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable with 
another. Just a thought.
Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer t...@xmission.com wrote:
 
 Can you try a different computer?
 
 Principal Solutions Architect
 Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
 727-437-2771
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, 
 from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched 
 since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and 
 disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day 
 this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had 
 planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on 
 Friday morning.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel 
 san...@frawg.org wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port 
 speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
 
 I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy 
 chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain 
 dead just that way.
 
 Jack - KD4IZ
 
 On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today 
 I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered 
 on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As 
 soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using 
 Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect 
 to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my 
 iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread David Anderson
James,

If he PX3 utility cannot connect to the PX3 then you cannot expect the iMac to 
connect to the KX3 through the PX3 with the PX3 powered on, because that 
requires a working connection to the PX3 so that the PX3 can then talk on a 
different UART to the KX3. The reason it works to the KX3 with the power 
switched off in the PX3 is that then it goes straight through bypassing the 
UARTS in the PX3.

Here is a rough block diagram

With PX3 power ON

PC   PX3 UART1  PX3 UART2  KX3


With PX3 power OFF

PC - PX3  KX3


So, to troubleshoot you can disconnect everything from the PX3 apart from the 
power cable and the connection to your IMac and see if you can get the PX3 
connected using the PX3 utility. If you cannot then I am afraid you have a 
problem. You won't get anything through to the KX3 with the PX3 switched ON 
while that problem exists.

Very frustrating I can understand.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

 On 25 Jun 2015, at 22:45, James Bennett w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I 
 tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three 
 allow the PX3  KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the 
 PX3, then the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. 
 Arrgh... :-(
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts 
 davidahren...@me.com wrote:
 
 My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that 
 it’s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable 
 with another. Just a thought.
 Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer t...@xmission.com 
 mailto:t...@xmission.com wrote:
 
 Can you try a different computer?
 
 Principal Solutions Architect
 Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
 727-437-2771
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com 
 mailto:w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has 
 changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my 
 desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very 
 frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to 
 operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's 
 not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l 
 call Elecraft on Friday morning.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel 
 san...@frawg.org mailto:san...@frawg.org wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port 
 speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
 
 I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy 
 chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went 
 brain dead just that way.
 
 Jack - KD4IZ
 
 On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. 
 Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is 
 powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections 
 works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. 
 I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility 
 cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the 
 connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working 
 just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread Alan

Jim,

I would try the following troubleshooting procedure:

Connect the XCVR ACC1 RS-232 jack on the PX3 to the ACC1 jack on the 
KX3.  Turn them both on.  If the KX3 and PX3 work normally together (PX3 
reads KX3 frequency on the screen, etc.) then the XCVR RS-232 port on 
the PX3 must be OK.


Now connect the PC to the PC ACC1 RS-232 port on the PX3 and turn off 
the PX3.  If KX3 Utility can connect to the KX3, then the cables and 
connectors must be good.


Now without touching anything turn on the PX3.  If:

- KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and

- PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,

then it sounds like the PC RS-232 port on the PX3 must have died 
somehow.


Alan N1AL


On 06/25/2015 09:37 AM, James Bennett wrote:

Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning.
Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3
is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB
connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the
connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not
off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on
or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the
PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.

Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?

Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread James Bennett
Guys, I have checked, double, and triple-checked connections. Reseated all of 
them. I tried as David GM4JJJ suggested - unhooked EVERYTHING from the PX3 
except power and ACC1 to the computer. The PX3 utility does not see the PX3. 
So, I'm of the opinion that something inside the PX3 has gone kaflooey. Will 
see what Elecraft support has to say when they get around to responding. At 
least the PX3 is still in warranty. And it doesn't weigh 400 pounds to mail it 
off.

The good news is that I had a brain f@rt while doing laundry - I disconnected 
the ACC1 cable between the KX3 and the PX3, then moved the Serial-USB from the 
computer directly into the KX3. This at least allows me to use the MLDX logging 
program on my iMac, and have panadapter display on the PX3. The only thing I 
loose is that the PX3 does not show the correct frequency. That's not an issue, 
as the KX3 shows it and the MLDX software sees and shows it too. So, due to my 
cranial flatulence, I'll still be able to use both units this weekend in Field 
Day!! My wife will probably tell me the bottom line is that I ought to do the 
laundry more often! Uh-oh


 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 3:16 PM, David Anderson 
 gm4...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 James,
 
 If he PX3 utility cannot connect to the PX3 then you cannot expect the iMac 
 to connect to the KX3 through the PX3 with the PX3 powered on, because that 
 requires a working connection to the PX3 so that the PX3 can then talk on a 
 different UART to the KX3. The reason it works to the KX3 with the power 
 switched off in the PX3 is that then it goes straight through bypassing the 
 UARTS in the PX3.
 
 Here is a rough block diagram
 
 With PX3 power ON
 
 PC   PX3 UART1  PX3 UART2  KX3
 
 
 With PX3 power OFF
 
 PC - PX3  KX3
 
 
 So, to troubleshoot you can disconnect everything from the PX3 apart from the 
 power cable and the connection to your IMac and see if you can get the PX3 
 connected using the PX3 utility. If you cannot then I am afraid you have a 
 problem. You won't get anything through to the KX3 with the PX3 switched ON 
 while that problem exists.
 
 Very frustrating I can understand.
 
 73
 
 David Anderson GM4JJJ 
 
 On 25 Jun 2015, at 22:45, James Bennett w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I 
 tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three 
 allow the PX3  KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the 
 PX3, then the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. 
 Arrgh... :-(
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts 
 davidahren...@me.com wrote:
 
 My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that 
 it’s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable 
 with another. Just a thought.
 Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer t...@xmission.com 
 mailto:t...@xmission.com wrote:
 
 Can you try a different computer?
 
 Principal Solutions Architect
 Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
 727-437-2771
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com 
 mailto:w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has 
 changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my 
 desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very 
 frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to 
 operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's 
 not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l 
 call Elecraft on Friday morning.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel 
 san...@frawg.org mailto:san...@frawg.org wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port 
 speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
 
 I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy 
 chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went 
 brain dead just that way.
 
 Jack - KD4IZ
 
 On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. 
 Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is 
 powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections 
 works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. 
 I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility 
 cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than 
 the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be 
 working just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread James Bennett
See below -

 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:57 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L 
 n...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Jim -
 
 I have a K3 and P3, and am assuming that the cabling is the same for the Xs, 
 cable from computer to PX3, then from PX3 to KX3. Are you using a Mac? If you 
 use a VM, does that grab the com port?
Yes, I'm using an iMac, and yes, they daisy chain just like the K3/P3. I have 
VMware shut down. I went so far as to unplug the Serial-USB cable going into 
the iMac and plugged back in. The iMac asked where to connect it to. I told it 
the Mac. Still no joy. The KX3 by itself connects fine, the PX3 is out to lunch.
 
 Some shots in the dark.
 
 Un daisy-chain the KX3 and PX3 and see if the KX3 utility can talk to the KX3 
 alone, then check if the PX3 utility can talk to the PX3. If the KX# works 
 and the PX3 doesn't then the problem is with the PX3 or the cable from the 
 PX3 to KX3.
I unchained 'em and got the same result - iMac cannot see the PX3.

 If you have a different serial cable, try that.
Tried using the cable that my K3/P3 use - no joy there, either.
 
 How about a power-on reset of the PX3?
Brought up the PX3 menu to power-on/reset. Again, no change.
 
 73, Mike NF4L
I called Elecraft - all lines busy. So I sent an email to support. Still 
waiting for a reply..
 


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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread James Bennett
Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I 
tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three allow 
the PX3  KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the PX3, then 
the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. Arrgh... :-(

 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts 
 davidahren...@me.com wrote:
 
 My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that 
 it’s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable 
 with another. Just a thought.
 Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer t...@xmission.com 
 mailto:t...@xmission.com wrote:
 
 Can you try a different computer?
 
 Principal Solutions Architect
 Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
 727-437-2771
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com 
 mailto:w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has 
 changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, 
 untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating 
 and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field 
 Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had 
 planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on 
 Friday morning.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel 
 san...@frawg.org mailto:san...@frawg.org wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port 
 speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
 
 I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy 
 chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain 
 dead just that way.
 
 Jack - KD4IZ
 
 On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. 
 Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is 
 powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works 
 fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm 
 using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot 
 connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the 
 connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working 
 just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread Joel Black
Try disconnecting and reconnecting all connections.

I work in telecom and for years I had been told that a cable cannot go bad just 
lying in a cable tray. Well, I discovered that isn’t true. It can go bad all on 
its own just lying in a cable tray screwed down at both ends. No one knows what 
happened and there was no physical damage to the cable.

Also, jacks will get dirty. There is a fix for a DSX cross-connect (it’s for T1 
testing and patching) where you insert and remove a bantam cable several times. 
It’s surprising how often this “fix” works.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:45 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I 
 tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three 
 allow the PX3  KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the 
 PX3, then the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. 
 Arrgh... :-(
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts 
 davidahren...@me.com wrote:
 
 My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that 
 it’s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable 
 with another. Just a thought.
 Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer t...@xmission.com 
 mailto:t...@xmission.com wrote:
 
 Can you try a different computer?
 
 Principal Solutions Architect
 Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
 727-437-2771
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com 
 mailto:w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has 
 changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my 
 desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very 
 frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to 
 operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's 
 not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l 
 call Elecraft on Friday morning.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel 
 san...@frawg.org mailto:san...@frawg.org wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port 
 speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
 
 I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy 
 chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went 
 brain dead just that way.
 
 Jack - KD4IZ
 
 On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. 
 Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is 
 powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections 
 works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. 
 I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility 
 cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the 
 connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working 
 just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread Alan


 - KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and

 - PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,

I forgot to mention you have to kill KX3 Utility before starting PX3 
Utility.  You can't have more than one program using the same serial 
port at the same time.


Alan N1AL


On 06/25/2015 03:42 PM, Alan wrote:

Jim,

I would try the following troubleshooting procedure:

Connect the XCVR ACC1 RS-232 jack on the PX3 to the ACC1 jack on the
KX3.  Turn them both on.  If the KX3 and PX3 work normally together (PX3
reads KX3 frequency on the screen, etc.) then the XCVR RS-232 port on
the PX3 must be OK.

Now connect the PC to the PC ACC1 RS-232 port on the PX3 and turn off
the PX3.  If KX3 Utility can connect to the KX3, then the cables and
connectors must be good.

Now without touching anything turn on the PX3.  If:

- KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and

- PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,

then it sounds like the PC RS-232 port on the PX3 must have died somehow.

Alan N1AL


On 06/25/2015 09:37 AM, James Bennett wrote:

Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning.
Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3
is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB
connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the
connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not
off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on
or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the
PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.

Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?

Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread James Bennett

 On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 3:42 PM, Alan n...@sonic.net 
 wrote:
 
 Jim,
 
 I would try the following troubleshooting procedure:
 
 Connect the XCVR ACC1 RS-232 jack on the PX3 to the ACC1 jack on the KX3.  
 Turn them both on.  If the KX3 and PX3 work normally together (PX3 reads KX3 
 frequency on the screen, etc.) then the XCVR RS-232 port on the PX3 must be 
 OK.
This works as expected. PX3 follows KX3 frequency, and the MRKR A QSY function 
works.
 
 Now connect the PC to the PC ACC1 RS-232 port on the PX3 and turn off the 
 PX3.  If KX3 Utility can connect to the KX3, then the cables and connectors 
 must be good.
That works. the KX3 Utility is happy.
 
 Now without touching anything turn on the PX3.  If:
 
 - KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and
KX3 utility not happy - can't see KX3.
 
 - PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,
PX3 utility also unhappy.
 
 then it sounds like the PC RS-232 port on the PX3 must have died somehow.
Yep. Not good. And I don't have any spares! :-( 

I just a few minutes ago posted about a quasi-workaround I came up for FD, but 
methinks Mr. KX3 is headed for surgery next week
 
 Alan N1AL
 
 
 On 06/25/2015 09:37 AM, James Bennett wrote:
 Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning.
 Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3
 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB
 connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the
 connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not
 off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on
 or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the
 PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
 
 Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
 
 Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread James Bennett
Nope - this is my only machine. Got several iPads, but that won't help!! :-) :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi James, 


Please excuse me if I am stating the obvious or am suggesting something you
have already tried. 

1) Make sure that the PC is plugged into the ACC1/PC jack on the PX3 and
that the KX3 is plugged into the XCVR jack.   BE sure that the plugs are
pushed in all the way.  Those 3.5mm jacks can appear to be pushed in when
they are not. 

2) On your PC ensure that there is only one program up and running that is
using that serial port. 
3) Verify that the KX3 is set to 38,400 and the PX3 is also at 38,400. (I
think you mentioned you did this)

If that doesn't work, connect the PX3 by itself to the computer via the
ACC1/PC jack and make sure you can talk to it with your computer while using
the PX3 Utility.  

-Paul




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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread KarlErb
James,

Glad you're set for Field Day.  RE your other concern:

My brother-in-law recommends putting one of her cashmere sweaters in the wash 
next time you do the laundry.  Says he did that years ago and has never since 
been allowed to do the laundry.

Karl
W3BF


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 The good news is that I had a brain f@rt while doing laundry - I disconnected 
 the ACC1 cable between the KX3 and the PX3, then moved the Serial-USB from 
 the computer directly into the KX3. This at least allows me to use the MLDX 
 logging program on my iMac, and have panadapter display on the PX3. The only 
 thing I loose is that the PX3 does not show the correct frequency. That's not 
 an issue, as the KX3 shows it and the MLDX software sees and shows it too. 
 So, due to my cranial flatulence, I'll still be able to use both units this 
 weekend in Field Day!! My wife will probably tell me the bottom line is that 
 I ought to do the laundry more often! Uh-oh
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem

2015-06-25 Thread gdaught6
Karl wrote...

 My brother-in-law recommends putting one of her cashmere sweaters in
 the wash next time you do the laundry.  Says he did that years ago
 and has never since been allowed to do the laundry.

Nice silk dresses are also effective!  8-)

73,

George T Daughters, K6GT
CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
October 3-4, 2015


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