Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
I ran a business making kits and used PayPal with no issues (probably over 100 transactions). Even used PayPal credit to purchase a IC-9700, with no issues. I have an excellent credit rating. If you want to check someone's transaction quality, E-Bay collects buyer/seller ratings. Mine is 100%. Only time I had issues was with shipping being lost or delayed. Not a PayPal issue. Had one or two bogus vendors which PayPaal promptly refunded me. 73, Ed - KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
Sorry, this non-Elecraft thread should die. But…. I bought a reciprocating saw that tracking showed weight as 1oz. Shouldn’t be much of a struggle, and yet it was. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On May 8, 2022, at 11:07 AM, Julia Tuttle wrote: > > Not saying they're making the right decisions, just that anyone would > struggle in that kind of mediator role. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
Yeah, that's part of the problem of being PayPal. Some buyers are scammers, some sellers are scammers, there's no way to know what was actually in the box, and it's impractical for them to have the expertise to judge the authenticity, quality, and condition of every kind of niche item sold through them. Not saying they're making the right decisions, just that anyone would struggle in that kind of mediator role. 73, Julie On Sun, May 8, 2022, 14:03 Bob McGraw wrote: > > While I do some internet transactions, I'm very careful to research the > company or person I'm doing business with in advance. Both ways, when > buying and when selling. > > Regarding internet sales, I figure there are just as many SCAMS as there > are about that number of SELLERS. That does not say all SELLERS are > scams. But it does say that all SCAMS are sellers. Sell you something > to get your money, but never get your something, but they get the money. > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > On 5/8/2022 11:18 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > > PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) > > -- > IF ONE EXPECTS COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS, > ONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY > AND ONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR PROBLEMS." > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
While I do some internet transactions, I'm very careful to research the company or person I'm doing business with in advance. Both ways, when buying and when selling. Regarding internet sales, I figure there are just as many SCAMS as there are about that number of SELLERS. That does not say all SELLERS are scams. But it does say that all SCAMS are sellers. Sell you something to get your money, but never get your something, but they get the money. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 5/8/2022 11:18 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) -- IF ONE EXPECTS COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS, ONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY AND ONE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THEIR PROBLEMS." __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
I saved the tale you related in case I ever need to do this. Thank you. 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Grid: FN20is Bureaucracy is always in search of self-preservation. — AA7BQ > On May 7, 2022, at 23:24, David Deelstra wrote: > > After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" > pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering > "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I was > presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, below > which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, spent the > next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent the last three > hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit pass code then > sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a human sounding > voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to send them Proof of > Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my buyer only had to log > in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the item and click to > release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or the buyer by PayPal or > shown on their "Help" pages. > I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your > money is available" appeared in my in box. > I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit > union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for > both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be > willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it UPS? > > 73, Dave N7ISH > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@wc3t.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
FWIW, my wife had very good results from Paypal. She bought a saddle online and paid with paypal. When it arrived, it did not match the description or photos. The seller ignored her protests so she contacted PP. She reasonably quickly got a human, explained the situation and sent pictures. They withheld the funds from the seller. The saddle was sent back. The seller claimed not to have received it, but the proof of delivery cleared that up and my wife got her money back. She is a firm believer in PP. I've had two bad transactions in 40 years and had excellent results with my credit card company reversing the charges (PP not involved.) Ken On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 12:19 PM James Bennett via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > However, one must take things with a grain of salt… my wife and I have > used Facebook Marketplace over the past two years and are very happy with > it. Not sure I’d buy something off of it without seeing / touching it, > though. Prior to our move to Idaho in 2021 we had literally a ton of > “stuff” we needed to get rid of, rather than moving it all up here. Tools, > electronics, washer/dryer, basketball hoop, household items, etc. We put it > on FBM and marked it as “Local Pickup Only”, cash or Venmo payment. We > pocketed several thousand dollars prior to packing up our moving PODS. > > After getting here we needed a couple bicycles for the kids - FBM again. > You get to see it before handing over the green. > > That’s my two pesos. > > Jim Bennett / K7TXA > Eagle, ID > > > > > On May 8, 2022, at 9:14 AM, jerry wrote: > > > > A similar situation. I have learned BTW to never buy ANYTHING > advertised on > > Facebook. > > > > There was an ad for a nice metal-moving-parts model of a V8 engine. > Looked > > pretty cool, and I figured my 8 y/o son and I would have fun putting it > together. > > > > In due time, a box arrived in the mail. In it was a model of an engine > - it > > was a single plastic casting, no moving parts, crudely painted... and it > smelled. > > > > I emailed the company and they offered me a 50% refund. No thanks. I > filed a > > dispute with Paypal. > > > > About a week later, Paypal refunded my money. No fuss, no muss. I > tossed the > > smelly chunk of plastic in the trash. > > > > - Jerry KF6VB > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-05-08 07:17, George Thornton wrote: > >> I had a situation with a frankly fraudulent internet vendor that was > >> claiming discount prices on a name brand product. The web page looked > >> identical to the official company in design and appeared to be an > >> outlet for the company. > >> I placed a small order as a test but then changed my mind within an > >> hour after reading up on problems. I tried to cancel the order with > >> the company but of course they did not respond and claimed to have > >> shipped. I of course never got anything. > >> I went to Paypal who of course paid the company. I kept crying fraud > >> and after a couple months of back and forth nonsense and my > >> persistence they finally refunded. > >> I agree Paypal offers no protection for the most blatantly fraudulent > >> transactions. They are almost complicit in the fraud from their side > >> because they could easily see a pattern of activity > >> Their own inaction under these circumstances almost makes them > >> complicit in the fraud itself. > >> -Original Message- > >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > >> On Behalf Of Frank Krozel > >> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2022 4:55 AM > >> To: David Deelstra > >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) > >> And don't be surprised when you get a 1099 from PayPal! > >> -73- FrankKG9H > >> kg9hfr...@gmail.com > >>> On May 7, 2022, at 10:23 PM, David Deelstra > wrote: > >>> After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer > service" pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept > entering "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, > finally I was presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black > background, below which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on > what to do, spent the next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I > had spent the last three hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the > six digit pass code then sat through another eternity on hold finally > answer
[Elecraft] PayPal holding payment (Follow Up)
Hello all, My two and a half cents worth on transactions. When possible, always use credit cards, but never debit cards. If it is not possible to pay by credit card - ask yourself this question. "Do I really need this product and is this vendor the only one selling it"? Your answer should provide you with all the guidance that you will need. Best regards, Jerry, W1IE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
However, one must take things with a grain of salt… my wife and I have used Facebook Marketplace over the past two years and are very happy with it. Not sure I’d buy something off of it without seeing / touching it, though. Prior to our move to Idaho in 2021 we had literally a ton of “stuff” we needed to get rid of, rather than moving it all up here. Tools, electronics, washer/dryer, basketball hoop, household items, etc. We put it on FBM and marked it as “Local Pickup Only”, cash or Venmo payment. We pocketed several thousand dollars prior to packing up our moving PODS. After getting here we needed a couple bicycles for the kids - FBM again. You get to see it before handing over the green. That’s my two pesos. Jim Bennett / K7TXA Eagle, ID > On May 8, 2022, at 9:14 AM, jerry wrote: > > A similar situation. I have learned BTW to never buy ANYTHING advertised on > Facebook. > > There was an ad for a nice metal-moving-parts model of a V8 engine. Looked > pretty cool, and I figured my 8 y/o son and I would have fun putting it > together. > > In due time, a box arrived in the mail. In it was a model of an engine - it > was a single plastic casting, no moving parts, crudely painted... and it > smelled. > > I emailed the company and they offered me a 50% refund. No thanks. I filed > a > dispute with Paypal. > > About a week later, Paypal refunded my money. No fuss, no muss. I tossed > the > smelly chunk of plastic in the trash. > > - Jerry KF6VB > > > > > On 2022-05-08 07:17, George Thornton wrote: >> I had a situation with a frankly fraudulent internet vendor that was >> claiming discount prices on a name brand product. The web page looked >> identical to the official company in design and appeared to be an >> outlet for the company. >> I placed a small order as a test but then changed my mind within an >> hour after reading up on problems. I tried to cancel the order with >> the company but of course they did not respond and claimed to have >> shipped. I of course never got anything. >> I went to Paypal who of course paid the company. I kept crying fraud >> and after a couple months of back and forth nonsense and my >> persistence they finally refunded. >> I agree Paypal offers no protection for the most blatantly fraudulent >> transactions. They are almost complicit in the fraud from their side >> because they could easily see a pattern of activity >> Their own inaction under these circumstances almost makes them >> complicit in the fraud itself. >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> On Behalf Of Frank Krozel >> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2022 4:55 AM >> To: David Deelstra >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) >> And don't be surprised when you get a 1099 from PayPal! >> -73- FrankKG9H >> kg9hfr...@gmail.com >>> On May 7, 2022, at 10:23 PM, David Deelstra wrote: >>> After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" >>> pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering >>> "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I >>> was presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, >>> below which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, >>> spent the next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent >>> the last three hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit >>> pass code then sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a >>> human sounding voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to >>> send them Proof of Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my >>> buyer only had to log in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the >>> item and click to release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or >>> the buyer by PayPal or shown on their "Help" pages. >>> I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your >>> money is available" appeared in my in box. >>> I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit >>> union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for >>> both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be >>> willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it >>> UPS? >>> 73, Dave N7ISH >>> -- >>> This emai
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
A similar situation. I have learned BTW to never buy ANYTHING advertised on Facebook. There was an ad for a nice metal-moving-parts model of a V8 engine. Looked pretty cool, and I figured my 8 y/o son and I would have fun putting it together. In due time, a box arrived in the mail. In it was a model of an engine - it was a single plastic casting, no moving parts, crudely painted... and it smelled. I emailed the company and they offered me a 50% refund. No thanks. I filed a dispute with Paypal. About a week later, Paypal refunded my money. No fuss, no muss. I tossed the smelly chunk of plastic in the trash. - Jerry KF6VB On 2022-05-08 07:17, George Thornton wrote: I had a situation with a frankly fraudulent internet vendor that was claiming discount prices on a name brand product. The web page looked identical to the official company in design and appeared to be an outlet for the company. I placed a small order as a test but then changed my mind within an hour after reading up on problems. I tried to cancel the order with the company but of course they did not respond and claimed to have shipped. I of course never got anything. I went to Paypal who of course paid the company. I kept crying fraud and after a couple months of back and forth nonsense and my persistence they finally refunded. I agree Paypal offers no protection for the most blatantly fraudulent transactions. They are almost complicit in the fraud from their side because they could easily see a pattern of activity Their own inaction under these circumstances almost makes them complicit in the fraud itself. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Frank Krozel Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2022 4:55 AM To: David Deelstra Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) And don't be surprised when you get a 1099 from PayPal! -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com On May 7, 2022, at 10:23 PM, David Deelstra wrote: After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I was presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, below which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, spent the next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent the last three hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit pass code then sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a human sounding voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to send them Proof of Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my buyer only had to log in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the item and click to release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or the buyer by PayPal or shown on their "Help" pages. I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your money is available" appeared in my in box. I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it UPS? 73, Dave N7ISH -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kg9hfr...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help sup
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
I use a major company (Visa/AmEx/MC) credit card as my PayPal go to 'bank' for the PayPal account. That way I get the ease and means to buy with PayPal (and not go get my wallet to dig out the card) when other means are not available (or shuffle funds to individuals as needed). PayPal immediately hits the credit card but if there is a conflict I file the complaint with PayPal first, then immediately with the credit card company to refuse the charge. This has worked very well the few times I had issues with an order(about once every 3-4 years). The CC company does an immediate refund to my account, while investigating and I let the two of them duke it out. The might (and lawyers) of the CC company is much more power than any individual can muster, PayPal usually 'expedites' their efforts to resolve the issue. In the meantime, I have my spending power returned. There is no hit to the credit rating, you are using the (local, state, Fed and international) law and the CC company policies, in your favor (PayPal can whine, but they have no power). This method means the end buyer (us) has less to worry about. PayPal will cry foul (but wait! We'll fix this!) if you tell them you're refusing the charge. They have no useful legal recourse if you made the charge in good faith and they won't take the time (spend money on lawyers) to argue. Their only recourse is to close your PayPal account, but that requires 'cause' (or they run afoul of the CC laws). So don't tell them and be more careful when you use PayPal. They are bound by the same CC laws but expect the buyer to be ignorant of that. Become an informed consumer; use the CC protection laws, in your favor when there is an issue. Now if someone could explain (and make sense of) why it takes moments to make a charge, but 8-10 working days (weeks) to reverse that charge using the same network system; they'd be a hero. It simply defies logic. 73, Rick NK7I On 5/8/2022 7:17 AM, George Thornton wrote: I had a situation with a frankly fraudulent internet vendor that was claiming discount prices on a name brand product. The web page looked identical to the official company in design and appeared to be an outlet for the company. I placed a small order as a test but then changed my mind within an hour after reading up on problems. I tried to cancel the order with the company but of course they did not respond and claimed to have shipped. I of course never got anything. I went to Paypal who of course paid the company. I kept crying fraud and after a couple months of back and forth nonsense and my persistence they finally refunded. I agree Paypal offers no protection for the most blatantly fraudulent transactions. They are almost complicit in the fraud from their side because they could easily see a pattern of activity Their own inaction under these circumstances almost makes them complicit in the fraud itself. -Original Message- From:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.netOn Behalf Of Frank Krozel Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2022 4:55 AM To: David Deelstra Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) And don't be surprised when you get a 1099 from PayPal! -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com On May 7, 2022, at 10:23 PM, David Deelstra wrote: After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I was presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, below which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, spent the next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent the last three hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit pass code then sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a human sounding voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to send them Proof of Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my buyer only had to log in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the item and click to release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or the buyer by PayPal or shown on their "Help" pages. I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your money is available" appeared in my in box. I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it UPS? 73, Dave N7ISH -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
I had a situation with a frankly fraudulent internet vendor that was claiming discount prices on a name brand product. The web page looked identical to the official company in design and appeared to be an outlet for the company. I placed a small order as a test but then changed my mind within an hour after reading up on problems. I tried to cancel the order with the company but of course they did not respond and claimed to have shipped. I of course never got anything. I went to Paypal who of course paid the company. I kept crying fraud and after a couple months of back and forth nonsense and my persistence they finally refunded. I agree Paypal offers no protection for the most blatantly fraudulent transactions. They are almost complicit in the fraud from their side because they could easily see a pattern of activity Their own inaction under these circumstances almost makes them complicit in the fraud itself. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Frank Krozel Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2022 4:55 AM To: David Deelstra Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) And don't be surprised when you get a 1099 from PayPal! -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com > On May 7, 2022, at 10:23 PM, David Deelstra wrote: > > After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" > pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering > "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I was > presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, below > which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, spent the > next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent the last three > hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit pass code then > sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a human sounding > voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to send them Proof of > Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my buyer only had to log > in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the item and click to > release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or the buyer by PayPal or > shown on their "Help" pages. > I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your > money is available" appeared in my in box. > I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit > union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for > both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be > willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it UPS? > > 73, Dave N7ISH > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > kg9hfr...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
And don't be surprised when you get a 1099 from PayPal! -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com > On May 7, 2022, at 10:23 PM, David Deelstra wrote: > > After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" > pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering > "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I was > presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, below > which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, spent the > next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent the last three > hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit pass code then > sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a human sounding > voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to send them Proof of > Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my buyer only had to log > in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the item and click to > release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or the buyer by PayPal or > shown on their "Help" pages. > I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your > money is available" appeared in my in box. > I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit > union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for > both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be > willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it UPS? > > 73, Dave N7ISH > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kg9hfr...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I was presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, below which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, spent the next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent the last three hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit pass code then sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a human sounding voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to send them Proof of Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my buyer only had to log in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the item and click to release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or the buyer by PayPal or shown on their "Help" pages. I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your money is available" appeared in my in box. I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it UPS? 73, Dave N7ISH -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
