Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2
I have only heard good things about MixW. I would not like to program all the modes they support, I don't think the grey cells could stand it. Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005 Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005 - Original Message - From: Tom Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig, I like MixW. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2
- Original Message - From: Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [chop] I'm not a long-haired, dope-smoking, free-software hippie so if I have to spend some money for good software I don't mind. (As a professional programmer I've never understood why the product of my hard work should be free when I have to pay for the product of everyone else's work.) - Would you send someone an invoice if you were to spend an afternoon helping them put up antennas? One of the great things about software is that it is written once, installed a thousand times. As a provider of free software I enjoy putting something back into the hobby, goodness knows I took enough out while starting off in 1973/1974. If Amateur Radio is to survive (which I am sure it will) and move forward good software is essential, just look at the SDR products. The cost of good software is too much for a small hardware company, so to get off the ground open source or at least freeware is maybe the only option. My two centimes anyway... I am a sort-haired, dog-walking software engineer :-) Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005 Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Software for K2
I have only heard good things about MixW. I would not like to program all the modes they support; I don't think the grey cells could stand it. Simon Brown Simon, maybe you should give MixW a try. I haven't seen the need to program all the modes they support. You can make mode specific macros if you want to but, you can move from mode to mode without really doing anything. The virtue is that you can tailor it to your own needs. Would you send someone an invoice if you were to spend an afternoon helping them put up antennas? One of the great things about software is that it is written once, installed a thousand times. As a provider of free software I enjoy putting something back into the hobby, goodness knows I took enough out while starting off in 1973/1974. This is very generous of you. However, you as well as any software designer know the time and effort that goes into writing and distributing a product to the consumer. I would be more than willing to spend an afternoon with you putting up an antenna. I would not have the nerve to ask you to write me some free software anymore than I would ask you to design and build me a radio. There are now and have been plenty of creative people that have stuck their necks out in starting a business within our hobby. I would guess that this is a difficult way to make a buck and those who do it are entitled to be rewarded for their efforts. Tom, ak2b ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2
Simon, I would like to thank you for your hard work and great software. I have been using your free software for a number of years starting with the VR5000 and FT-817 control programs. I wasn't a real believer of Ham Radio Deluxe when it first came out because I couldn't imagine one piece of software replacing all of its predecessor's and be worth a hoot but I was wrong. HRD is a marvellous program. I am using it on my VR5000, K2, IC-756PRO, and IC-703. Thanks again. John [K7SVV] On 8/23/05, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [chop] I'm not a long-haired, dope-smoking, free-software hippie so if I have to spend some money for good software I don't mind. (As a professional programmer I've never understood why the product of my hard work should be free when I have to pay for the product of everyone else's work.) - Would you send someone an invoice if you were to spend an afternoon helping them put up antennas? One of the great things about software is that it is written once, installed a thousand times. As a provider of free software I enjoy putting something back into the hobby, goodness knows I took enough out while starting off in 1973/1974. If Amateur Radio is to survive (which I am sure it will) and move forward good software is essential, just look at the SDR products. The cost of good software is too much for a small hardware company, so to get off the ground open source or at least freeware is maybe the only option. My two centimes anyway... I am a sort-haired, dog-walking software engineer :-) Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005 Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- John [K7SVV] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Software for K2
At the risk of prolonging the off-topic discussion about free software, but with the hope of shortening it, I wanted to pass along that I emailed Simon privately to explain that my comments were not a condemnation of those who develop free software but rather those who demand that all software be free. I was saying that I'm not one of those people who demands that all software be free, so everyone should feel free to recommend commercial products if they're good. A few people misinterpreted my clearly stated remarks as being anti-Simon and told me so in some tersely worded emails. I've set them straight privately so as not to waste any bandwidth on an off-topic discussion. I'm just making this one reply to clarify the issue for anyone who might have also misinterpreted my comments but hadn't yet flamed me. :-) Craig NZ0R On 8/23/05, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [chop] I'm not a long-haired, dope-smoking, free-software hippie so if I have to spend some money for good software I don't mind. (As a professional programmer I've never understood why the product of my hard work should be free when I have to pay for the product of everyone else's work.) - Would you send someone an invoice if you were to spend an afternoon helping them put up antennas? One of the great things about software is that it is written once, installed a thousand times. As a provider of free software I enjoy putting something back into the hobby, goodness knows I took enough out while starting off in 1973/1974. If Amateur Radio is to survive (which I am sure it will) and move forward good software is essential, just look at the SDR products. The cost of good software is too much for a small hardware company, so to get off the ground open source or at least freeware is maybe the only option. My two centimes anyway... I am a sort-haired, dog-walking software engineer :-) Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005 Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2
It's good that you are prepared to give your software away for free, Simon, but there is another side of the coin. I myself have written a number of ham radio programs (several of them are also free.) A couple of them, HFProp and K2Net, have been quite popular. I often receive requests for enhancements of these programs. Unfortunately, because I currently spend long hours at the computer earning a living, I have little inclination to freely give my own spare time (what there is of it) to satisfying those requests. I rarely even get on the air these days. If I could earn some of my living from selling those ham programs, I could spend more time developing them. However (as you well know) I was roundly criticized when I attempted to defend the rights of hams who are programmers to charge for their products if they wish. Hams are fortunate to have many good free programs to choose from, but I am sure they would have a greater choice (and maybe a choice of some better programs) if they were more willing to pay for them. Just my 2 pence worth. 73, -- Julian, G4ILO G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo Simon Brown wrote: Would you send someone an invoice if you were to spend an afternoon helping them put up antennas? One of the great things about software is that it is written once, installed a thousand times. As a provider of free software I enjoy putting something back into the hobby, goodness knows I took enough out while starting off in 1973/1974. If Amateur Radio is to survive (which I am sure it will) and move forward good software is essential, just look at the SDR products. The cost of good software is too much for a small hardware company, so to get off the ground open source or at least freeware is maybe the only option. My two centimes anyway... I am a sort-haired, dog-walking software engineer :-) Simon Brown ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Software for K2
Craig, For K2 rig control software, I am familiar with 2 - Ham Radio Deluxe which is free for download and includes PSK31 (http://hrd.ham-radio.ch/), and Carl Morescheski's N4PY software (http://www.ralabs.com/n4py/) which is not free, but does provide CW support and supports the K1EL Winkey. Many logging programs can link into Carl's program - I don't know how well programs such as Digipan or MixW for digital modes work with Carl's software because I haven't tried it yet, but they should work together in a Windows environment. I can recommend either of them for the K2 - each will likely have their own limitations. My personal opinion is that the N4PY software offers a smoother interface and adds several control features that are quite useful. 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- I'm looking for software to drive the K2. I'm primarily interested in something that would let me send and receive CW and the various digital modes. I have a logging program I like (N3FJP's ACLog) which talks to the K2 to pick up band and mode, so I don't need logging software. I work a lot of contests, so something with some memories and other features for CW contests would be good. It would be cool if there was something that picked up QSO information (call and report) from the sound card and logged it, as long as I can export to ACLog. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2
FWIW HRD's latest betas support the K1EL WinKey and the microHam USB keyer. Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005 Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005 - Original Message - From: W3FPR - Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig, For K2 rig control software, I am familiar with 2 - Ham Radio Deluxe which is free for download and includes PSK31 (http://hrd.ham-radio.ch/), and Carl Morescheski's N4PY software (http://www.ralabs.com/n4py/) which is not free, but does provide CW support and supports the K1EL Winkey. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2
FWIW, I heartly endorse Ham Radio Deluxe. I control my Icom 706 from my computer and it is fantastic. Caught 2 Spain stations CW on 20 last night using the DX Cluster on the software. Jerry Griffin will send you the free software plus the cable from computer to radio for $20.00 or I guess you could make up your own cable. The version of PSK31 is also fantastic. It puts most versions of PSK to shame IMHO! As already mentioned this all works with the K2 as well. Jerry's email address is : Jerry Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] He is in Oregon. Paul Paul Gates K1 #0231 KX1 #1186 XG1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2 FWIW HRD's latest betas support the K1EL WinKey and the microHam USB keyer. Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005 Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005 - Original Message - From: W3FPR - Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig, For K2 rig control software, I am familiar with 2 - Ham Radio Deluxe which is free for download and includes PSK31 (http://hrd.ham-radio.ch/), and Carl Morescheski's N4PY software (http://www.ralabs.com/n4py/) which is not free, but does provide CW support and supports the K1EL Winkey. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software for K2
You didn't mention whether you were using Linux, Mac, or Windows. For Linux, try Marote, XLog, and gMFSK. If you like them, you can add features to them: gMFSK does do CW and Olivia, but lacks the ability to monitor multiple QSOs, so if you can write UI code that would be a good way to pay for it. It also needs QPSK63, which ought ot be fairly easy to add as it has QPSK31 and BPSK63. Leigh / WA5ZNU On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 6:05 am, Craig Rairdin wrote: I'm looking for software to drive the K2. I'm primarily interested in something that would let me send and receive CW and the various digital modes. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Software for K2
Craig, I like MixW. I have it set up where I can push the most important buttons for the K2 with macros. I mostly like the real time spectrum display. I would not want to do without it if I didn't have to. I like being able to see a little slice of the band while I'm tuning around. It also greatly enhances tuning a cw signal by allowing you to place it dead center of your filter passband. MixW will do almost anything you need although it takes a little more work than some of the others. The logging and contest macros are more than adequate for my needs. N4PY is also excellent for controlling a K2. You can try them all for free and I would advise doing so. Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
