Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test
You can open and edit pdf files using WORD 2016 Joe KK5NA ~ On 2/28/2020 7:17 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: I must respectfully disagree. Often, PDF is read-only. Sometimes you can break that, sometimes you can't. You need a PDF reader. I suspect we all have them, but you can't open it in most word processors. Rich Text Format (.rtf) is pretty much universal, can be opened (and edited) by every word processor I'm aware of, and because it does not have a macro facility, it doesn't carry malware. 73 -- Lynn On 2/26/20 9:13 AM, James Walker wrote: I know all about the alternatives to Microsoft word. I actually have Microsoft word. The point is that PDF is the most accessible format that we all have in common. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kk...@kk5na.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test
I must respectfully disagree. Often, PDF is read-only. Sometimes you can break that, sometimes you can't. You need a PDF reader. I suspect we all have them, but you can't open it in most word processors. Rich Text Format (.rtf) is pretty much universal, can be opened (and edited) by every word processor I'm aware of, and because it does not have a macro facility, it doesn't carry malware. 73 -- Lynn On 2/26/20 9:13 AM, James Walker wrote: I know all about the alternatives to Microsoft word. I actually have Microsoft word. The point is that PDF is the most accessible format that we all have in common. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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In Office 365 (Excel) the “Save As” file types include both ‘text (MS-DOS) .txt, and ‘pdf’ and many other types. Saving as ‘txt’ will allow opening of the generated txt file, then to copy and paste into an email. The following 4 lines were originally in an excel file, converted to a txt, then copied from the txt file into this email. 1.2G 19-Oct-2019 0349 579 DL3EBJ 579 1.2G 19-Oct-2019 0357 589 G3LTF 579 1.2G 19-Oct-2019 0402 559 SP7DCS 559 1.2G 19-Oct-2019 0412 589 SP6JLW 579 I no longer have MS-Excel to see if this is possible using that sw. Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I echo the recommendation for OpenOffice. I also own MS Office 2010 but OpenOffice is actually more up to date, and as you say, it's free. As an example, I recently had a need to be able to use hyperbolic sine functions on complex numbers for some transmission line calculations. Excel didn't add that capability until after 2010, while Open Office Calc has them. MS Office 2010 will be the last version I ever buy, or "lease" now that it is cloud based. 73, Dave AB7E On 2/26/2020 9:56 AM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote: In addition to Libre Office, there still is Open Office (now supported by The Apache Software Foundation).It appears that at some point the original Open Office morphed into Libre Office... and AFAIK, all the generated files from each application are compatible with each other, and will permit you to export a new file in Word (or other MS App) format. Open Office is free to download and use. The latest version rescued me when I had to update my Mac's OS and I wanted to be able to open older files. The bane of updating an OS is the risk that some older app that you still need or use will "break" under the new OS. At that point, you have to hope that the original developer of that now broker app will have updated it to run on the new OS. I had that situation with EchoMac... a compatible version of EchoLink. 73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211 -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm To: James Walker; Walter Underwood Cc: elecraft reflector Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 11:44 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format. 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered toxda...@cis-broadband.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 2/26/2020 8:25 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: LibreOffice will reliably export a .doc or .xml file as a .pdf document. Yes. That's my method. I usually work in a old versions of Word and Quattro Pro, then use Libre Office to generate the pdf. The thing to watch out for is that Libre Office can make changes in formatting, fonts, etc. that need to be corrected, so I always check the pdf before putting it on my website. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I can find strings in a PDF with the Premium version of Evernote also. And that's my last comment as we've gotten far afield from the subject. :) On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:10 PM Alan wrote: > On 2/26/20 8:25 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: > > Adobe Reader - at least the version I have - has a menu option under File > > which is "Save as Other..." and the only option is Text. And it does! > > > > You can also just highlight the text you want in the PDF document and > copy/paste it into another document. > > The only time you can't extract text from a PDF is if the PDF was made > from a scanned image. (Actually, you can buy software that can read > text from an image, but I don't know how accurate it is.) > > Alan N1AL > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@wc3t.us -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 2/26/20 8:25 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote: Adobe Reader - at least the version I have - has a menu option under File which is "Save as Other..." and the only option is Text. And it does! You can also just highlight the text you want in the PDF document and copy/paste it into another document. The only time you can't extract text from a PDF is if the PDF was made from a scanned image. (Actually, you can buy software that can read text from an image, but I don't know how accurate it is.) Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Apache OpenOffice Writer will export to PDF too. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 2/26/2020 8:25 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Yes, but .pdf preserves the author's content and formatting and is viewable by anyone using Adobe Reader (free). LibreOffice will reliably export a .doc or .xml file as a .pdf document. I don't know about Microsoft Office since I don't use it. 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I know all about the alternatives to Microsoft word. I actually have Microsoft word. The point is that PDF is the most accessible format that we all have in common. Why use some more proprietary or exotic format to transmit something that does not need the features of these programs you suggest. If I only need them to read the message, I'd rather use what I have and avoid the complexities of downloading new software. I think it is correct to say that any word processing software can create a PDF document for simple text. Why must a user be forced download a new program when a little bit of an attention to detail can create a document everyone can read? Jimmy Walker, WA4ILO, Macon, GA > On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft > wrote: > > In addition to Libre Office, there still is Open Office (now supported by The > Apache Software Foundation).It appears that at some point the original Open > Office morphed into Libre Office... and AFAIK, all the generated files from > each application are compatible with each other, and will permit you to > export a new file in Word (or other MS App) format. Open Office is free to > download and use. > The latest version rescued me when I had to update my Mac's OS and I wanted > to be able to open older files. The bane of updating an OS is the risk that > some older app that you still need or use will "break" under the new OS. At > that point, you have to hope that the original developer of that now broker > app will have updated it to run on the new OS. > I had that situation with EchoMac... a compatible version of EchoLink. > 73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211 > > > -Original Message- > From: Don Wilhelm > To: James Walker ; Walter Underwood > > Cc: elecraft reflector > Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 11:44 am > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test > > If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install > LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to > Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file > produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimmy.wal...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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In addition to Libre Office, there still is Open Office (now supported by The Apache Software Foundation).It appears that at some point the original Open Office morphed into Libre Office... and AFAIK, all the generated files from each application are compatible with each other, and will permit you to export a new file in Word (or other MS App) format. Open Office is free to download and use. The latest version rescued me when I had to update my Mac's OS and I wanted to be able to open older files. The bane of updating an OS is the risk that some older app that you still need or use will "break" under the new OS. At that point, you have to hope that the original developer of that now broker app will have updated it to run on the new OS. I had that situation with EchoMac... a compatible version of EchoLink. 73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211 -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm To: James Walker ; Walter Underwood Cc: elecraft reflector Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 11:44 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format. 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/26/2020 11:31 AM, James Walker wrote: I would say it differently. I would say PDF is where text goes to be read. I decline to download any text file that’s not PDF. Too risky. It's amazing to me how many people will send out a file in a proprietary format like Microsoft Word and expect all the recipients to be able to read it. Jimmy Walker, WA4ILO, Macon, GA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I would say it differently. I would say PDF is where text goes to be read. I decline to download any text file that’s not PDF. Too risky. It's amazing to me how many people will send out a file in a proprietary format like Microsoft Word and expect all the recipients to be able to read it. Jimmy Walker, WA4ILO, Macon, GA > On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > I got it from somebody else. Before I heard this, I said that PDF is where > text goes to die. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Feb 26, 2020, at 6:46 AM, Chris R. NW6V wrote: >> >> Walter, >> >> Bravo!. :-) I'm going to steal this line... :-) >> >> 73 Chris NW6V >> >> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:09:02 -0800 AM wrote: >> >>> >>> "Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back >>> into a cow." >>> >>> >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimmy.wal...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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In my day job, I do Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) work. Most of it involves PDFs of the standards that the trading partner uses, and more often than I would like, I see the PDFs containing sample data (which in an ideal world are actual text data, because we have to send them through a process called "translation" that takes ASCII and little else as input.) Adobe Reader - at least the version I have - has a menu option under File which is "Save as Other..." and the only option is Text. And it does! It saves the PDF as a text document. What a Godsend. I do not know when this started, but there's a special place in heaven for the person who came up with this function to Adobe Reader. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:04 AM Walter Underwood wrote: > I got it from somebody else. Before I heard this, I said that PDF is where > text goes to die. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > On Feb 26, 2020, at 6:46 AM, Chris R. NW6V wrote: > > > > Walter, > > > > Bravo!. :-) I'm going to steal this line... :-) > > > > 73 Chris NW6V > > > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:09:02 -0800 AM wrote: > > > >> > >> "Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back > >> into a cow." > >> > >> > >> > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r...@wc3t.us > -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Yes, but .pdf preserves the author's content and formatting and is viewable by anyone using Adobe Reader (free). LibreOffice will reliably export a .doc or .xml file as a .pdf document. I don't know about Microsoft Office since I don't use it. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/26/2020 11:04 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: I got it from somebody else. Before I heard this, I said that PDF is where text goes to die. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I got it from somebody else. Before I heard this, I said that PDF is where text goes to die. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Feb 26, 2020, at 6:46 AM, Chris R. NW6V wrote: > > Walter, > > Bravo!. :-) I'm going to steal this line... :-) > > 73 Chris NW6V > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:09:02 -0800 AM wrote: > >> >> "Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back >> into a cow." >> >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Walter, Bravo!. :-) I'm going to steal this line... :-) 73 Chris NW6V On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:09:02 -0800 AM wrote: > > "Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back > into a cow." > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Unfortunately, it is very hard for computers to extract the information in a PDF. The text can be pulled out, but the columns and other data organization are lost. I’ve worked on search engines for years, and parsing PDF is a mess. Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back into a cow. If you expect to use the data for anything in the future, save it in a data format. CSV is good, XML (ADIF) is good, JSON can be good, whatever. Extracting a log from a PDF would likely require reading the document and typing in the data. If you want a visual record that cannot be changed, PDF is a good choice. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Feb 25, 2020, at 3:40 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF > wrote: > > Sorry, was this just about a way to display what was logged, in which case > PDF would be good, or was it about a way to provide a plain text version of > what was logged? > > 73 de David, M0XDF > > >> On 24 Feb 2020, at 20:20, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> I use Excel to log two different nets, and routinely export the logs as PDF >> files. >> >> It works very well. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, WØLEN >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, >> M0XDF >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 12:08 PM >> To: K8TE >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test >> >> I don’t need to tell you that’s horrid! CSV would be better, surely? >> >> 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) >> -- >> He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a >> fool forever. -Chinese proverb >> >>> On 24 Feb 2020, at 17:59, K8TE wrote: >>> >>> This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable >>> format. I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at >>> the Elecraft Nabble page. I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this >>> morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result. Per Nabble's >>> instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box. If it works, >>> this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or >>> perhaps other programs.73, Bill, K8TEde dx freqcq/dx snr >>> speed timeEA5WU >>> K8TE14060.5 CW CQ 4 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebCT7ANO K8TE >>> 14060.4 CW CQ 5 31 wpm >>> 1731z 24 FebW4AX K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 >>> FebK3PA K8TE 14060.6 >>> CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebEA8BFK K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ >>> 6 31 wpm 1732z 24 >>> FebHA7GN K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 7 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebJ68HZ >>> K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ >>> 9 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebW3LPLK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 10 31 wpm >>> 1731z 24 FebW1NT >>> K8TE14060.5 CW CQ 11 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN7TR K8TE >>> 14060.5 CW CQ 12 30 wpm >>> 1731z 24 FebKM3T-2 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 >>> FebW1NT-6 K8TE >>> 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKM3T K8TE 14060.5 >>> CW CQ 15 30 wpm 1730z >>> 24 FebK2DB K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW8WTS >>> K8TE 14060.5 CW >>> CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6AOK8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 >>> 28 wpm 1730z 24 >>> FebK9LC K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK2PO/7 >>> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ >>> 18 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN2QT K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 18 30 wpm >>> 1730z 24 FebKC0VKN >>> K8TE14060.6 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW4KAZK8TE >>> 14060.5 CW CQ 19 31 >>> wpm 1730z 24 FebCT7AHV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 30 wpm 1730z >>> 24 FebN9YKEK8TE >>> 14060.5 CW CQ 22 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.7 >>> CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z >>> 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK1TTT >>> K8TE 14060.5 CW >>> CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3UA K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 26 >>> 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3OA >>> K8TE14060.5 CW CQ 28 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebWZ7I K8TE >>> 14060.5 CW CQ 29 30 wpm >>> 1730z 24 FebVE7CCK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 33 30 wpm 173
Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test
Sorry, was this just about a way to display what was logged, in which case PDF would be good, or was it about a way to provide a plain text version of what was logged? 73 de David, M0XDF > On 24 Feb 2020, at 20:20, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > I use Excel to log two different nets, and routinely export the logs as PDF > files. > > It works very well. > > 73 > Lyn, WØLEN > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 12:08 PM > To: K8TE > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test > > I don’t need to tell you that’s horrid! CSV would be better, surely? > > 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) > -- > He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a > fool forever. -Chinese proverb > >> On 24 Feb 2020, at 17:59, K8TE wrote: >> >> This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable >> format. I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at >> the Elecraft Nabble page. I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this >> morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result. Per Nabble's >> instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box. If it works, >> this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or >> perhaps other programs.73, Bill, K8TEde dx freqcq/dx snr >> speed timeEA5WU >> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 4 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebCT7ANO K8TE 14060.4 >> CW CQ 5 31 wpm >> 1731z 24 FebW4AX K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 >> FebK3PA K8TE 14060.6 >> CW CQ5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebEA8BFK K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ >> 6 31 wpm 1732z 24 >> FebHA7GN K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 7 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebJ68HZ >> K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ >> 930 wpm 1731z 24 FebW3LPLK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 10 31 wpm >> 1731z 24 FebW1NT >> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 11 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN7TR K8TE 14060.5 >> CW CQ 12 30 wpm >> 1731z 24 FebKM3T-2K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 >> FebW1NT-6 K8TE >> 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKM3T K8TE 14060.5 >> CW CQ 15 30 wpm 1730z >> 24 FebK2DBK8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW8WTS >> K8TE 14060.5 CW >> CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6AOK8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 >> 28 wpm 1730z 24 >> FebK9LC K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK2PO/7 >> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ >> 18 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN2QT K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 18 30 wpm >> 1730z 24 FebKC0VKN >> K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW4KAZK8TE 14060.5 >> CW CQ 19 31 >> wpm 1730z 24 FebCT7AHV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 30 wpm 1730z >> 24 FebN9YKEK8TE >> 14060.5 CW CQ 22 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.7 >> CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z >> 24 FebW7HRK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK1TTT >> K8TE 14060.5 CW >> CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3UA K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 26 >> 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3OA >> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 28 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebWZ7I K8TE 14060.5 >> CW CQ 29 30 wpm >> 1730z 24 FebVE7CC K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 33 30 wpm 1730z 24 >> FebW9XG K8TE >> 14060.6 CW CQ 35 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebWE9V K8TE 14060.4 >> CW CQ 35 28 wpm 1730z >> 24 FebW8WWV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 35 29 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6WZ >> K8TE 14060.6 CW >> CQ 45 30 wpm 1730z 24 Feb >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to m0...@alphadene.co.uk > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test
I use Excel to log two different nets, and routinely export the logs as PDF files. It works very well. 73 Lyn, WØLEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 12:08 PM To: K8TE Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test I don’t need to tell you that’s horrid! CSV would be better, surely? 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) -- He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever. -Chinese proverb > On 24 Feb 2020, at 17:59, K8TE wrote: > > This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable > format. I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at > the Elecraft Nabble page. I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this > morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result. Per Nabble's > instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box. If it works, > this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or > perhaps other programs.73, Bill, K8TEde dx freqcq/dx snr > speed timeEA5WU > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 4 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebCT7ANO K8TE 14060.4 > CW CQ 5 31 wpm > 1731z 24 FebW4AX K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 > FebK3PA K8TE 14060.6 > CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebEA8BFK K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 6 > 31 wpm 1732z 24 > FebHA7GN K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 7 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebJ68HZ > K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ > 9 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebW3LPLK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 10 31 wpm > 1731z 24 FebW1NT > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 11 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN7TR K8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 12 30 wpm > 1731z 24 FebKM3T-2 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 > FebW1NT-6 K8TE > 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKM3T K8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 15 30 wpm 1730z > 24 FebK2DB K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW8WTS > K8TE 14060.5 CW > CQ16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6AOK8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 > 28 wpm 1730z 24 > FebK9LCK8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK2PO/7 > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ > 1831 wpm 1730z 24 FebN2QT K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 18 30 wpm > 1730z 24 FebKC0VKN > K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW4KAZK8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 19 31 > wpm 1730z 24 FebCT7AHV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 30 wpm 1730z > 24 FebN9YKEK8TE > 14060.5 CW CQ 22 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.7 > CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z > 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK1TTT > K8TE 14060.5 CW > CQ24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3UA K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 26 > 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3OA > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 28 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebWZ7I K8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 29 30 wpm > 1730z 24 FebVE7CC K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 33 30 wpm 1730z 24 > FebW9XG K8TE > 14060.6 CW CQ 35 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebWE9V K8TE 14060.4 > CW CQ 35 28 wpm 1730z > 24 FebW8WWVK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 35 29 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6WZ > K8TE 14060.6 CW > CQ45 30 wpm 1730z 24 Feb > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m0...@alphadene.co.uk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test
I don’t need to tell you that’s horrid! CSV would be better, surely? 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) -- He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever. -Chinese proverb > On 24 Feb 2020, at 17:59, K8TE wrote: > > This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable > format. I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at > the Elecraft Nabble page. I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this > morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result. Per Nabble's > instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box. If it works, > this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or > perhaps other programs.73, Bill, K8TEde dx freqcq/dx snr > speed timeEA5WU > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 4 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebCT7ANO K8TE 14060.4 > CW CQ 5 31 wpm > 1731z 24 FebW4AX K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 > FebK3PA K8TE 14060.6 > CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebEA8BFK K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 6 > 31 wpm 1732z 24 > FebHA7GN K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 7 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebJ68HZ > K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ > 9 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebW3LPLK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 10 31 wpm > 1731z 24 FebW1NT > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 11 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN7TR K8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 12 30 wpm > 1731z 24 FebKM3T-2 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 > FebW1NT-6 K8TE > 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKM3T K8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 15 30 wpm 1730z > 24 FebK2DB K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW8WTS > K8TE 14060.5 CW > CQ16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6AOK8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 > 28 wpm 1730z 24 > FebK9LCK8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK2PO/7 > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ > 1831 wpm 1730z 24 FebN2QT K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 18 30 wpm > 1730z 24 FebKC0VKN > K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW4KAZK8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 19 31 > wpm 1730z 24 FebCT7AHV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 30 wpm 1730z > 24 FebN9YKEK8TE > 14060.5 CW CQ 22 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.7 > CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z > 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK1TTT > K8TE 14060.5 CW > CQ24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3UA K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 26 > 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3OA > K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 28 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebWZ7I K8TE 14060.5 > CW CQ 29 30 wpm > 1730z 24 FebVE7CC K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 33 30 wpm 1730z 24 > FebW9XG K8TE > 14060.6 CW CQ 35 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebWE9V K8TE 14060.4 > CW CQ 35 28 wpm 1730z > 24 FebW8WWVK8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 35 29 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6WZ > K8TE 14060.6 CW > CQ45 30 wpm 1730z 24 Feb > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m0...@alphadene.co.uk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
