Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-21 Thread Mike Rodgers
Also if using front and rear mics, while using rear mic, you can use PTT on 
front mic. 

73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/19/2014 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote:

I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX 
only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of 
operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between 
the two mic's.


What are you trying to accomplish by using the different mics? Is it 
that you don't want to wear the headset?


FWIW -- I use a CM500 for all CW and SSB operation, and find it quite 
comfortable to just lean back in the chair and talk.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler

Jeff,

Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I 
unpackaged mine yesterday and have it working with 
the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you 
doing PTT or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?


73, Phil W7OX

On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote:

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with 
me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. 
I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 
headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now 
for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other 
types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch 
between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful information...

73 Jeff KB2M



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread kb2m
I'm using PTT Phil. If you would like I could send you all my mic related parms 
next time I'm at my winter home.

73 Jeff KB2M

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To: k...@comcast.net, Elecraft Reflector Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:30:22 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Jeff,

Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I 
unpackaged mine yesterday and have it working with 
the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you 
doing PTT or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote:
 Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share 
 with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, 
 etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the 
 CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was 
 up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use 
 for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time 
 to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful 
 information...

 73 Jeff KB2M



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Hystad
phil...

I use the CM500 with the K3 plugged into the rear panel connection.  I use a 
VOX when operating SSB but I also have a foot switch (bought at the local 
Guitar Store) plugged into the rear panel PTT.  Works very nicely.

73, another phil, K7PEH


On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Jeff,
 
 Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I unpackaged mine yesterday and 
 have it working with the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you doing PTT 
 or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote:
 Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share 
 with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, 
 etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the 
 CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was 
 up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use 
 for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first 
 time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful 
 information...
 
 73 Jeff KB2M
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Bennett
Phil -

I've been using the CM500 on my K3 for a couple years - very nice. I have a six 
year old boy so that pretty much negates using VOX here while on SSB; I use PTT 
100% of the time! I made up a small box that has a momentary push button switch 
and a toggle switch on it in parallel. I ran a wire from it to the PTT In jack 
on the back of the K3. Works great - I can use either the toggle or the push 
button switch for the PTT function.

Jim / W6JHB


On   Wednesday, Mar 19, 2014, at  Wednesday, 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

 Jeff,
 
 Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I unpackaged mine yesterday and 
 have it working with the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you doing PTT 
 or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote:
 Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share 
 with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, 
 etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the 
 CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was 
 up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use 
 for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first 
 time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful 
 information...
 
 73 Jeff KB2M
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/19/2014 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? 


I'm not Jeff, but it's real simple. Plug mic and phones into the rear 
panel connectors. Go into the menu, choose the rear panel mic, and turn 
on bias (tap 2 on the keypad, I think -- check the manual). That makes 
the mic work. Set mic gain to low -- the CM500 is a pretty hot mic.


You're going to want to turn the speaker on and off, so I assign that 
function to PF2 (long push of XIT). To do that, go into the menu, find 
the Speaker + Phones toggle, and push the XIT button.


For TXEQ, full cut of the three lowest frequency bands, then do some 
additional cut of the 4th band with someone listening to guide you as to 
how much.  BTW -- those settings are good for both K3 and KX3.


Another hint for the KX3. Because the KX3 is specifically designed for 
backpacking and minimal current drain, the speaker and headphone amp are 
not very powerful. We can make the best use of the available power by 
not wasting it on low frequency sounds. This means that setting the 
three lowest bands of RXEQ for maximum cut is a good idea, and will 
likely imcrease the headroom by a few dB.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler

Thanks, Jim. That sounds like a great way to go.

Phil w7ox

On 3/19/14, 9:36 AM, Jim Bennett wrote:

Phil -

I've been using the CM500 on my K3 for a couple years - very nice. I have a six 
year old boy so that pretty much negates using VOX here while on SSB; I use PTT 
100% of the time! I made up a small box that has a momentary push button switch 
and a toggle switch on it in parallel. I ran a wire from it to the PTT In jack 
on the back of the K3. Works great - I can use either the toggle or the push 
button switch for the PTT function.

Jim / W6JHB


On   Wednesday, Mar 19, 2014, at  Wednesday, 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:


Jeff,

Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I unpackaged mine yesterday and have 
it working with the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you doing PTT or 
VOX, and if PTT how implemented?

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote:

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with 
me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. 
I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 
headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now 
for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other 
types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch 
between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful information...

73 Jeff KB2M


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler

Jim,

If using a headset, why the comments re speaker 
on-off for K3?


One reason I bought the CM500 is the need to shut 
out sounds if doing SSB in a noisy environment. 
Normally in the shack I use the speakers and MC43 
hand mike on K3 (so far) and a Sony earplug for CW 
(singular because one ear is stone deaf).


73, Phil

On 3/19/14, 9:46 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 3/19/2014 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? 


I'm not Jeff, but it's real simple. Plug mic and 
phones into the rear panel connectors. Go into 
the menu, choose the rear panel mic, and turn on 
bias (tap 2 on the keypad, I think -- check the 
manual). That makes the mic work. Set mic gain 
to low -- the CM500 is a pretty hot mic.


You're going to want to turn the speaker on and 
off, so I assign that function to PF2 (long push 
of XIT). To do that, go into the menu, find the 
Speaker + Phones toggle, and push the XIT button.


For TXEQ, full cut of the three lowest frequency 
bands, then do some additional cut of the 4th 
band with someone listening to guide you as to 
how much.  BTW -- those settings are good for 
both K3 and KX3.


Another hint for the KX3. Because the KX3 is 
specifically designed for backpacking and 
minimal current drain, the speaker and headphone 
amp are not very powerful. We can make the best 
use of the available power by not wasting it on 
low frequency sounds. This means that setting 
the three lowest bands of RXEQ for maximum cut 
is a good idea, and will likely imcrease the 
headroom by a few dB.


73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Bill Conkling
Jeff,

I watched this nthread for a while and saw a dozen or so responses, but
no-one bothered to help you with a macro or two.  It seems that everyone has
opinions on what mic or jack and maybe which fingefr to use to press the
ON.

But, as for the macros, here goes.

These are old, but you can see what I have done and adjust accordingly.
Good luck!



TO set mic to front for Hiel  HM10-Dual

Name:   -MicFP

Macro:  MG020;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;TE-03-03+00+00+03+03+00+00;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF1

This will set gain to 20, the compression to 20, set mic to front, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to H


To set rear for YAMAHA CM500

Name:   -MicRPl

Macro:  MG017;CP005;MN053;DN;DN;UP;TE+00+00+00+03+03+03+03+03;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF2

This will set gain to 17, compression to 5, set mic to rear, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to L

NOTE:'

The setting for range H or L is a toggle.  If you press the same function
key twice, it will toggle the range.  Therefore these macros leave the Main
Menu active to show the Front/Rear and Range setting.  Just press the MENY
butoon and you are ready to go.  If the range is wrong, just press keypad #1
to toggle to the other setting.

...bill

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of k...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share
with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp,
etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the
CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was
up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use
for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first
time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful
information...  

73 Jeff KB2M


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jeff Griffin
Thanks Bill this is exactly what I was looking for, some place to start. I
was wondering if anyone else has setup any macros for mic selection.
Thanks

73 Jeff kb2m 

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From: Bill Conkling [mailto:n...@widomaker.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:44 PM
To: k...@comcast.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Jeff,

I watched this nthread for a while and saw a dozen or so responses, but
no-one bothered to help you with a macro or two.  It seems that everyone has
opinions on what mic or jack and maybe which fingefr to use to press the
ON.

But, as for the macros, here goes.

These are old, but you can see what I have done and adjust accordingly.
Good luck!



TO set mic to front for Hiel  HM10-Dual

Name:   -MicFP

Macro:  MG020;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;TE-03-03+00+00+03+03+00+00;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF1

This will set gain to 20, the compression to 20, set mic to front, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to H


To set rear for YAMAHA CM500

Name:   -MicRPl

Macro:  MG017;CP005;MN053;DN;DN;UP;TE+00+00+00+03+03+03+03+03;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF2

This will set gain to 17, compression to 5, set mic to rear, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to L

NOTE:'

The setting for range H or L is a toggle.  If you press the same function
key twice, it will toggle the range.  Therefore these macros leave the Main
Menu active to show the Front/Rear and Range setting.  Just press the MENY
butoon and you are ready to go.  If the range is wrong, just press keypad #1
to toggle to the other setting.

...bill

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of k...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share
with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp,
etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the
CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was
up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use
for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first
time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful
information...  

73 Jeff KB2M


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/19/2014 10:35 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

If using a headset, why the comments re speaker on-off for K3?


Because I often have the radio on while I'm doing other things around 
the shack. And also because I operate CW casually, and because I work 
various digital modes that don't require me to hear real well. For 
example, I need the listen to RTTY and PSK31 well enough to tune it in, 
but not well enough to copy it.


That's why I asked Jeff WHY he wanted to use two different mics. As a 
retired sound system design consultant, part of my job was getting folks 
to articulate their goals and needs, not in terms of equipment they 
thought they needed, but it terms of what they want to accomplish. From 
there, it was my job to match solutions to their needs.


So Jeff, I wasn't taking offense, but simply clarifying your goals.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Bill Conkling
No problem, Jeff.  

This combo is just that, a start.  There are some gurus on the list that
have written macros that only require one pf# key as they do some magic and
self-modify themselves to toggle the setup.  Maybe when they finish the
discussion on one verses two mics or speakers +/- phones, one of them will
enlighten us with some real useful information.

'till then, I use the macros I sent you myself, with some mods to the TE:

Good luck.

...bill nr4c

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Griffin [mailto:k...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:20 PM
To: 'Bill Conkling'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Thanks Bill this is exactly what I was looking for, some place to start. I
was wondering if anyone else has setup any macros for mic selection.
Thanks

73 Jeff kb2m 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Conkling [mailto:n...@widomaker.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:44 PM
To: k...@comcast.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Jeff,

I watched this nthread for a while and saw a dozen or so responses, but
no-one bothered to help you with a macro or two.  It seems that everyone has
opinions on what mic or jack and maybe which fingefr to use to press the
ON.

But, as for the macros, here goes.

These are old, but you can see what I have done and adjust accordingly.
Good luck!



TO set mic to front for Hiel  HM10-Dual

Name:   -MicFP

Macro:  MG020;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;TE-03-03+00+00+03+03+00+00;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF1

This will set gain to 20, the compression to 20, set mic to front, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to H


To set rear for YAMAHA CM500

Name:   -MicRPl

Macro:  MG017;CP005;MN053;DN;DN;UP;TE+00+00+00+03+03+03+03+03;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF2

This will set gain to 17, compression to 5, set mic to rear, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to L

NOTE:'

The setting for range H or L is a toggle.  If you press the same function
key twice, it will toggle the range.  Therefore these macros leave the Main
Menu active to show the Front/Rear and Range setting.  Just press the MENY
butoon and you are ready to go.  If the range is wrong, just press keypad #1
to toggle to the other setting.

...bill

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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share
with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp,
etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the
CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was
up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use
for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first
time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful
information...  

73 Jeff KB2M


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