Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
OK, here is a bit of view from the little pistol side. I made 135 contacts from a low EFHW antenna and 99W. I'm not loud. I'm a CW novice. I hear OK and send OK at 23 wpm. I practice and can hear simple exchanges up to about 30 wpm. I struggle with callsigns and complex words and phrases. I search and pounce by listening 2, 3, 4 or more times till I'm confident I have an exchange. Then I let N1MM+ and WinKey USB send my call and when appropriate send my exchange. I had a number of loud strong stations call over me, some while I sent my exchange, and some running ops abandoned me and took the loud station. OK. Wipe that one. Try again here or elsewhere, turn the big knob. Part of the game. 9⁸ Sometimes I was asked for a repeat with a question mark. I sent all again. Sometimes I heard noise or QRM/QRN and nothing specific and so I sent my entire exchange. If I hear a specific item, I sent that by hand. When I screwed up my hand sending I let N1MM+ send (not necessary often). One loud op sent "Dupe" so I checked and I had nothing similar in N1MM+. I moved on, but the next time I searched that band I got another DUPE. I sent NIL and got DUPE. We did that 2 or more times as I rotated through the bands until I memorized his call. The advice I hear in my clubs and here is work first worry later. But dupe checking works both ways, NIL means not in log and for whatever reason no dupe and he maùy lose penalty points and likely saved little time. None of this is an excuse to play in a big contest when you are not ready to play reasonably well. A contester's goal is to send and recieve as accurately and quickly as possible to accumulate the most points possible, understanding that too fast is slow, and too slow is not winning. I listened to a straight key op sending CQ SS at some 10 wpm high in the band on Saturday. I chose not to call because I'm terrible at slow code and it would not have been fun. If it had been later on Sunday I might have called. I wondered how many takers the op got? SS CW does not seem a good place for slow straight key, but it may have been an older op with a 30s-40s check. Dunno. Nothing wrong for trying, but expectations should be low. Nu6t Rich On Thu, Nov 10, 2022, 3:28 AM Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2022 09 Nov 22:20 -0600, Jim Brown wrote: > > When answering a CQ, send ONLY your call, and never repeat anything that > the > > other station copied correctly. For example, if he sent your call > correctly > > when he responded to you, don't repeat your call when sending your > exchange. > > And when you're the caller, never send the other station's call unless > > there's confusion about who's working who. :) As Bob, K6XX, says when > he's > > teaching new contesters, "I know MY call, the only one I need is YOURS! > > I have a couple of thoughts on this advice, Jim. > > First, I agree wholeheartedly about ONLY sending your call. Field Day > is one of the most frustrating events as it is rife with bad > habits--pretty much limited to phone. I have tried to train others not > to do those bad habits and guess what, apparently it is too difficult to > accept being different (I've been different all my life so I am > comfortable here) and they do all the bad habit things they're hearing. > The last couple of times I just gave up and stuck to the CW band! > > We had one op that always would send the exchange whenever the other > station had only asked for a repeat of our call. I tried and tried to > get him to stop doing that as it just made the QSO much longer than > necessary as the flow of the exchanges got all goofed up. In his mind > this was apparently proper procedure... > > However, I would caution against the answering station NEVER sending his > call again as it is a requirement for a complete SS exchange. Yes, over > the years I copied a lot of ops that only sent #, Prec, Check, Section > and omitted their call which in retrospect I should have probably > rejected. But the rules state the call is to be sent between the Prec > and Check (years back I recall a software author from outside the US > stating that the call in the exchange was redundant and when it was > pointed out that the SS rules state it is required as part of the > exchange his retort was that the rules were wrong!) > > 73, Nate, N0NB > > -- > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > Web: https://www.n0nb.us > Projects: https://github.com/N0NB > GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nu6t.r...@gmail.com >
Re: [Elecraft] Notice regarding K3S current-sense resistor power rating
Wayne,I do not have a K3S but how many firms have this type of contact between Chief Engineer and customer. Well done.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy Original message From: Wayne Burdick Date: 10/11/2022 02:18 (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Notice regarding K3S current-sense resistor power rating It has come to our attention that a 50 milliohm resistor used for sensing current drain on the K3S RF board is, at least on paper, underrated for the application. The resistor is R36, used in the low-current path that supplies 12 V to everything except the KPA3 100 W PA module.NOTE: On the K3, a leaded 2 watt resistor was used. On the K4, a surface-mount 2 watt resistor was used.So this issue only affects the K3S, which has a 1/2 watt resistor at this location. This was an oversight.According to our lead repair technician, only one RF-R36 has ever had to be replaced during service, and it was in fact stressed because of a short on the board. The infrequency of failure is probably due to the conservative power rating of the 1/2 W resistor. I would not expect adverse effects under typical operating conditions. The way you would know that the resistor had been damaged is if the indicated non-100 W PA current drain had gone up unexpectedly, or had exceeded the allowed range, resulting in a HI CUR warning either in RX or TX mode. Normally a basic K3S with no options will have an RX-mode current drain in the range of ~1.0 A, while the ATU and sub-RX options can bump this up to ~1.5 A. On key-down, the indicated current can be as high as several amps. The only way to definitively verify a damaged resistor, if there's no HI CUR warning, would be to place an accurate external ammeter in series.Even though we expect instances of damaged current-sense resistors to be very few, we will send a leaded, 2 watt substitute resistor to any K3S owner on request, at no charge.If you would prefer to have us remove the SMD resistor and replace it with the leaded one, you may send your K3S back to the factory. There will be only shipping charges (no charge for parts or labor).73,WayneN6KR__Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnb...@net1.ie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
* On 2022 09 Nov 22:20 -0600, Jim Brown wrote: > When answering a CQ, send ONLY your call, and never repeat anything that the > other station copied correctly. For example, if he sent your call correctly > when he responded to you, don't repeat your call when sending your exchange. > And when you're the caller, never send the other station's call unless > there's confusion about who's working who. :) As Bob, K6XX, says when he's > teaching new contesters, "I know MY call, the only one I need is YOURS! I have a couple of thoughts on this advice, Jim. First, I agree wholeheartedly about ONLY sending your call. Field Day is one of the most frustrating events as it is rife with bad habits--pretty much limited to phone. I have tried to train others not to do those bad habits and guess what, apparently it is too difficult to accept being different (I've been different all my life so I am comfortable here) and they do all the bad habit things they're hearing. The last couple of times I just gave up and stuck to the CW band! We had one op that always would send the exchange whenever the other station had only asked for a repeat of our call. I tried and tried to get him to stop doing that as it just made the QSO much longer than necessary as the flow of the exchanges got all goofed up. In his mind this was apparently proper procedure... However, I would caution against the answering station NEVER sending his call again as it is a requirement for a complete SS exchange. Yes, over the years I copied a lot of ops that only sent #, Prec, Check, Section and omitted their call which in retrospect I should have probably rejected. But the rules state the call is to be sent between the Prec and Check (years back I recall a software author from outside the US stating that the call in the exchange was redundant and when it was pointed out that the SS rules state it is required as part of the exchange his retort was that the rules were wrong!) 73, Nate, N0NB -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP and Contesting
No offence guys but shouldn't this be on a contest reflector and not the Elecraft reflector? On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 6:49 PM a**@sbcglobal wrote: > By the way, Jim, in case you were wondering, you sounded absolutely superb > here in KY. And you were not one of the offending Big Guns. I mean, yes, > you’re a Big Gun but no, I didn’t have you in mind during my rant. You know > what I mean. :^) > > Al W6LX/4 > > > On Nov 9, 2022, at 6: > > Great advice, Al. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rcont...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] QRP and contesting
Yea Wayne, thats the terrific Elecraft attitude that keeps your customer base strong and loyal. Its called, “ lets all have fun and learn something” Hooray for the serious high speed ops, a Lot of ex Navy guys, but its pretty easy to spot the slow lane and ease back into the fast lane. Happy Veterans Day youse guys….K6ADG I'm in this group. Casual contest operation, usually QRP, mostly CW, and almost always logging by hand. I greatly appreciate all of the very serious ops out there who approach this with a high level of skill and give everyone -- regardless of ability -- that next QSO. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP and Contesting
On 11/10/2022 8:14 AM, Rocco Conte wrote: No offence guys but shouldn't this be on a contest reflector and not the Elecraft reflector? No, the folks on that reflector know this stuff. :) It's the casual contesters who don't. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP and contesting
Funny story Last Field Day my son and a friend of his went camping with our group. Neither of them are CW operators (yet), but they did know the alphabet. They borrowed a MCU-controlled code-practice generator from another op and were competing to see who could copy single letters at the fastest rate. When they got stuck at around 20 WPM, I said, "how fast does that thing go?" It apparently would go much, much higher, into Morse nosebleed range. Just for fun, I asked them to set it up to generate random English text at 45 WPM. I decoded enough of it to convince them that this code speed was in my head-copy range. Then they started bumping it up another 5 WPM at a time--a challenge! I was in some sort of zone that day. Maybe it was the sunshine; maybe the idyllic sound of blue jays; maybe the 4-pack of White Claw I'd scored at the liquor store. In the end I managed to copy several words at 70 WPM. I'll never know if they were inspired or demoralized. They shook their heads and went off on a 5 mile hike. Wayne N6KR > On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Alan Geller wrote: > > Yea Wayne, thats the terrific Elecraft attitude that keeps your customer base > strong and loyal. > Its called, “ lets all have fun and learn something” Hooray for the serious > high speed ops, a > Lot of ex Navy guys, but its pretty easy to spot the slow lane and ease back > into the fast lane. > > Happy Veterans Day youse guys….K6ADG > > > > > > I'm in this group. Casual contest operation, usually QRP, mostly CW, and > almost always logging by hand. > > I greatly appreciate all of the very serious ops out there who approach this > with a high level of skill and give everyone -- regardless of ability -- that > next QSO. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
On 11/10/2022 3:28 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: However, I would caution against the answering station NEVER sending his call again as it is a requirement for a complete SS exchange. Yes, you're right, that's the exception. 73, Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
He was wrong and you were right. Goes with the rule of smart contesters to ALWAYS work dupes. He likely got your call wrong, or you got his wrong. If the former, he gets penalized. 73, Jim K9YC On 11/10/2022 4:57 AM, Richard Hill wrote: One loud op sent "Dupe" so I checked and I had nothing similar in N1MM+. I moved on, but the next time I searched that band I got another DUPE. I sent NIL and got DUPE. We did that 2 or more times as I rotated through the bands until I memorized his call. The advice I hear in my clubs and here is work first worry later. But dupe checking works both ways, NIL means not in log and for whatever reason no dupe and he maùy lose penalty points and likely saved little time. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
Thompson's First Law: "If there is QSB, his signal will be strong while sending all the unnecessary things you already have and then fade when he gets to the one necessary thing you asked for." Thompson's Second Law: "Repeat your request and then refer to Thompson's First Law." 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Jim Brown wrote on 11/9/2022 8:18 PM: One piece of advice (really a request) to contesters who think they are weak, so they repeat everything at least once. Please don't do that -- just send your exchange once, and let the other station ask for a repeat if needed. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP and Contesting
Jim, I can't argue with that logic, I stand corrected! 73, Rocco - WU2M On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 1:02 PM Jim Brown wrote: > On 11/10/2022 8:14 AM, Rocco Conte wrote: > > No offence guys but shouldn't this be on a contest reflector and not the > > Elecraft reflector? > > No, the folks on that reflector know this stuff. :) It's the casual > contesters who don't. > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rcont...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Correction-KX3 Settings for VARA HF. (not FM)
Please, what are correct KX3 settings to operate VARA HF? Apologize for previous error. Paul. N7TZW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
Lets not forget to be grateful for the "cannon fodder" and "Sunday drivers", without whom we wouldn't have many to work. Otherwise it would be like a FOC contest, with the rest of us peeking through the chain link fence, gawking at the elite. Sometimes that QRS QLF op will give us the last point needed to squeak past the competition. Ralph, VE7XF RIP VE7FO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
>"When answering a CQ, send ONLY your call, and never repeat anything that the other station copied correctly. For example, if he sent your call correctly when he responded to you, don't repeat your call when sending your exchange." As I read the rules of the contest, sending your call is *required* as part of the exchange. >"And when you're the caller, never send the other station's call unless there's confusion about who's working who." Yes, I read that in the QST write-up, but. Sending the other station's call confirms that you have copied his call correctly. 73, Charlie, N0TT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
Back when I had a station in Aruba, I arrived on a Saturday and a 160m contest was already in progress. The very first station that I called responded QSO B4 and blew me off! John KK9A aka P40A Jim Brown K9YC wrote: He was wrong and you were right. Goes with the rule of smart contesters to ALWAYS work dupes. He likely got your call wrong, or you got his wrong. If the former, he gets penalized. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX3 Settings for VARA FM
Please, what are the correct KX3 settings to operate VARA FM? Paul, N7TZW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
Very true Fred, this also applies with QRM. It can be very frustrating. Only resend the info that is being asked for. John KK9A Fred Jensen k6dgwn wrote: Thompson's First Law: "If there is QSB, his signal will be strong while sending all the unnecessary things you already have and then fade when he gets to the one necessary thing you asked for." Thompson's Second Law: "Repeat your request and then refer to Thompson's First Law." 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Good Natured Contesting Advice
* On 2022 10 Nov 13:15 -0600, j...@kk9a.com wrote: > Back when I had a station in Aruba, I arrived on a Saturday and a 160m > contest was already in progress. The very first station that I called > responded QSO B4 and blew me off! O... Real life strikes. Years back I came up with the joke that what Marconi *really* heard that December day in 1901 was, "UP! UP!" I'll see myself out. 73, Nate, N0NB -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Settings for VARA FM
Paul... Not really much to the radio setup. Your transmitted deviation is very important on 2 meters and so is the incoming volume level going to your soundcard. Unless you have an amp or a gateway station really near, that 3 watts may not be enough to make it. What soundcard are you using? Hank K4HYJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of bardinet via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 2:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Settings for VARA FM Please, what are the correct KX3 settings to operate VARA FM? Paul, N7TZW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to h...@optilink.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP and contesting
Wow!! Awesome post. Thanks for sharing this. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Wayne Burdick Date: 11/10/22 1:46 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Alan Geller Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP and contesting Funny story Last Field Day my son and a friend of his went camping with our group. Neither of them are CW operators (yet), but they did know the alphabet. They borrowed a MCU-controlled code-practice generator from another op and were competing to see who could copy single letters at the fastest rate. When they got stuck at around 20 WPM, I said, "how fast does that thing go?" It apparently would go much, much higher, into Morse nosebleed range. Just for fun, I asked them to set it up to generate random English text at 45 WPM. I decoded enough of it to convince them that this code speed was in my head-copy range. Then they started bumping it up another 5 WPM at a time--a challenge! I was in some sort of zone that day. Maybe it was the sunshine; maybe the idyllic sound of blue jays; maybe the 4-pack of White Claw I'd scored at the liquor store. In the end I managed to copy several words at 70 WPM. I'll never know if they were inspired or demoralized. They shook their heads and went off on a 5 mile hike.WayneN6KR> On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Alan Geller wrote:> > Yea Wayne, thats the terrific Elecraft attitude that keeps your customer base strong and loyal. > Its called, “ lets all have fun and learn something” Hooray for the serious high speed ops, a > Lot of ex Navy guys, but its pretty easy to spot the slow lane and ease back into the fast lane.> > Happy Veterans Day youse guys….K6ADG> > > > > > I'm in this group. Casual contest operation, usually QRP, mostly CW, and almost always logging by hand.> > I greatly appreciate all of the very serious ops out there who approach this with a high level of skill and give everyone -- regardless of ability -- that next QSO.__Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP and contesting
That is pretty impressive. When I was first a ham, one of the locals was W7QYA, Flo, a school teacher not far away. I had managed to crank my speed up to 40 (with some struggle) but she said that was painfully slow for her. Her nominal speed was 65 wpm. I have yet to get much above 40. On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Funny story Last Field Day my son and a friend of his went camping > with our group. Neither of them are CW operators (yet), but they did know > the alphabet. They borrowed a MCU-controlled code-practice generator from > another op and were competing to see who could copy single letters at the > fastest rate. > > When they got stuck at around 20 WPM, I said, "how fast does that thing > go?" It apparently would go much, much higher, into Morse nosebleed range. > > Just for fun, I asked them to set it up to generate random English text at > 45 WPM. I decoded enough of it to convince them that this code speed was in > my head-copy range. Then they started bumping it up another 5 WPM at a > time--a challenge! I was in some sort of zone that day. Maybe it was the > sunshine; maybe the idyllic sound of blue jays; maybe the 4-pack of White > Claw I'd scored at the liquor store. In the end I managed to copy several > words at 70 WPM. I'll never know if they were inspired or demoralized. They > shook their heads and went off on a 5 mile hike. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > On Nov 10, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Alan Geller > wrote: > > > > Yea Wayne, thats the terrific Elecraft attitude that keeps your customer > base strong and loyal. > > Its called, “ lets all have fun and learn something” Hooray for the > serious high speed ops, a > > Lot of ex Navy guys, but its pretty easy to spot the slow lane and ease > back into the fast lane. > > > > Happy Veterans Day youse guys….K6ADG > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm in this group. Casual contest operation, usually QRP, mostly CW, and > almost always logging by hand. > > > > I greatly appreciate all of the very serious ops out there who approach > this with a high level of skill and give everyone -- regardless of ability > -- that next QSO. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w8lv...@gmail.com -- --w8lvn-- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
