Re: [O] org-ref in action
Thanks John
No worries :) ive installed it and its working great.
in a related question, does anyone use it with jabef?
the reason im asking is that im very new to this and wonder about a
possible workflow to export a bib citation from jabref to org and create an
org header (per reference). so far it seems like org-ref will only insert
something like
cite:REF
I have played around with org-bibtex and seem to remember there was a
org-bibtex yank function that created a header in org from the bib citation
in clipboard, can org-ref do something similar?
sorry for the neewb questions
z
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:08 AM, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu
wrote:
Hi, it got moved in a re-organization to
https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org/org-ref.org.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all
the github link seems dead, anyone knows where one could get and try
org-ref from?
z
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Joseph Vidal-Rosset
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Eric, it works now, with the latest version of org-mode.
Best wishes
Jo.
2014-06-30 12:22 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
Thanns to the default cite action, I get for example in my
org file:
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
and it creates no reference at al, because via the export I
get:
\cite{(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal}
Using the latest version of Org-mode from the git repository,
this is a
very new feature and requires usage of the git version of
Org-mode, I am
seeing the desired behavior. After simply requiring ox-bibtex,
the
following
* H1
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
exports to
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\tableofcontents
\section{H1}
\label{sec-1}~\cite[119–136]{johansson36:_minim_formal}
% Emacs 24.4.50.2 (Org mode beta_8.3)
\end{document}
As expected.
I hope this helps,
Eric
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--
---
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Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
Re: [O] org-ref in action
I am not familiar with jabref, but assuming it stores the entries in a
regular bibtex format, and you have the bibtex file open in emacs, with the
cursor on the entry you want to make a heading for, you run
M-x org-ref-open-bibtex-notes.
That creates something like an org-bibtex heading in your
org-ref-bibliography-notes file, but it is probably a little different. I
haven't used org-bibtex, and I didn't try to make it exactly the same. If
you try it and tell me what is missing, I can make it be more like
org-bibtex. The format there is not critical to me.
John
---
John Kitchin
Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks John
No worries :) ive installed it and its working great.
in a related question, does anyone use it with jabef?
the reason im asking is that im very new to this and wonder about a
possible workflow to export a bib citation from jabref to org and create an
org header (per reference). so far it seems like org-ref will only insert
something like
cite:REF
I have played around with org-bibtex and seem to remember there was a
org-bibtex yank function that created a header in org from the bib citation
in clipboard, can org-ref do something similar?
sorry for the neewb questions
z
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:08 AM, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu
wrote:
Hi, it got moved in a re-organization to
https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org/org-ref.org.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all
the github link seems dead, anyone knows where one could get and try
org-ref from?
z
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Joseph Vidal-Rosset
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Eric, it works now, with the latest version of org-mode.
Best wishes
Jo.
2014-06-30 12:22 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
Thanns to the default cite action, I get for example in my
org file:
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
and it creates no reference at al, because via the export I
get:
\cite{(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal}
Using the latest version of Org-mode from the git repository,
this is a
very new feature and requires usage of the git version of
Org-mode, I am
seeing the desired behavior. After simply requiring ox-bibtex,
the
following
* H1
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
exports to
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\tableofcontents
\section{H1}
\label{sec-1}~\cite[119–136]{johansson36:_minim_formal}
% Emacs 24.4.50.2 (Org mode beta_8.3)
\end{document}
As expected.
I hope this helps,
Eric
--
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PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
--
---
John Kitchin
Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Hi, it got moved in a re-organization to
https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org/org-ref.org.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all
the github link seems dead, anyone knows where one could get and try
org-ref from?
z
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Joseph Vidal-Rosset
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Eric, it works now, with the latest version of org-mode.
Best wishes
Jo.
2014-06-30 12:22 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
Thanns to the default cite action, I get for example in my
org file:
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
and it creates no reference at al, because via the export I
get:
\cite{(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal}
Using the latest version of Org-mode from the git repository,
this is a
very new feature and requires usage of the git version of
Org-mode, I am
seeing the desired behavior. After simply requiring ox-bibtex,
the
following
* H1
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
exports to
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\tableofcontents
\section{H1}
\label{sec-1}~\cite[119–136]{johansson36:_minim_formal}
% Emacs 24.4.50.2 (Org mode beta_8.3)
\end{document}
As expected.
I hope this helps,
Eric
--
Eric Schulte
https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
--
---
John Kitchin
Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
Re: [O] org-ref in action
2014-06-29 20:19 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
With ox-bibtex.el [[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] will export as
\cite[page n]{one-reference-paper-year}
I am sorry Eric but [[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] breaks the
bibliography reference for me with ox-bibtex.el ... it is too bad because
it was a convenient solution to get \cite[page
n]{one-reference-paper-year} .
I am lost.
Regards
Jo.
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes:
2014-06-29 20:19 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
With ox-bibtex.el [[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] will export as
\cite[page n]{one-reference-paper-year}
I am sorry Eric but [[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] breaks the
bibliography reference for me with ox-bibtex.el ... it is too bad because
it was a convenient solution to get \cite[page
n]{one-reference-paper-year} .
I am lost.
Could you be more specific? Does org-mode generate any latex at all,
and how does it differ from what you'd expect? If no LaTeX is
generated, and Org-mode actually throws an error then please provide a
backtrace. I should be able to help but I'll need more information.
One thing I noticed is that I got better behavior if I didn't allow line
breaks in the link, which was easily accomplished by replacing
[[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] with
[[cite:(page~n)one-reference-paper-year]]. In general the later is
actually /preferable/ than the former, as you don't want LaTeX breaking
lines in the middle of a citation either.
Best,
Regards
Jo.
--
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https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
Re: [O] org-ref in action
I thank you Eric for your quick and kind reply.
In my init.el file I have put this code :
(eval-after-load 'reftex-vars
'(progn
(add-to-list 'reftex-cite-format-builtin
'(org Org-mode citation
((?\C-m . [[cite:(%p)%l]])
(?t . [[textcite:%l]])
(?p . [[parencite:%l]])
(?s . [[posscite:%l]])
(?a . [[citeauthor:%l]])
(?y . [[citeyear:%l]]))
2014-06-30 11:52 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
Could you be more specific? Does org-mode generate any latex at all,
and how does it differ from what you'd expect? If no LaTeX is
generated, and Org-mode actually throws an error then please provide a
backtrace. I should be able to help but I'll need more information.
Thanns to the default cite action, I get for example in my org file:
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
and it creates no reference at al, because via the export I get:
\cite{(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal}
One thing I noticed is that I got better behavior if I didn't allow line
breaks in the link, which was easily accomplished by replacing
[[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] with
[[cite:(page~n)one-reference-paper-year]]. In general the later is
actually /preferable/ than the former, as you don't want LaTeX breaking
lines in the middle of a citation either.
It is not the issue here because I have no broken line.
I'm using bibtex here and no biblatex. Maybe biblatex is a better option,
but it is another question.
Best
Jo.
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Thanns to the default cite action, I get for example in my org file:
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
and it creates no reference at al, because via the export I get:
\cite{(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal}
Using the latest version of Org-mode from the git repository, this is a
very new feature and requires usage of the git version of Org-mode, I am
seeing the desired behavior. After simply requiring ox-bibtex, the
following
* H1
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
exports to
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\tableofcontents
\section{H1}
\label{sec-1}~\cite[119–136]{johansson36:_minim_formal}
% Emacs 24.4.50.2 (Org mode beta_8.3)
\end{document}
As expected.
I hope this helps,
Eric
--
Eric Schulte
https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Thanks Eric, it works now, with the latest version of org-mode.
Best wishes
Jo.
2014-06-30 12:22 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
Thanns to the default cite action, I get for example in my org file:
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
and it creates no reference at al, because via the export I get:
\cite{(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal}
Using the latest version of Org-mode from the git repository, this is a
very new feature and requires usage of the git version of Org-mode, I am
seeing the desired behavior. After simply requiring ox-bibtex, the
following
* H1
[[cite:(119–136)johansson36:_minim_formal]]
exports to
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\tableofcontents
\section{H1}
\label{sec-1}~\cite[119–136]{johansson36:_minim_formal}
% Emacs 24.4.50.2 (Org mode beta_8.3)
\end{document}
As expected.
I hope this helps,
Eric
--
Eric Schulte
https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Hi John, hello the list,
My question is very simple and it is not unrevelevant vis-à-vis this
thread, therefore I keep the same thread.
What need is to get either the usual citation format (often in plain
style) \cite{one-reference-paper-year} or this one with a mentioned page:
\cite[page n]{one-reference-paper-year}.
My problem with cite: org-mode format is that I am not able to get the
second format. Ideally , I want to click on the reference and just to add
the quoted page.
I do not doubt that this is easy to get in org-mode, but I'm wasting my
time to find how... if it is possible to get it with org-ref or via
another tool, many thanks in advance.
Best regards
Jo.
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes:
Hi John, hello the list,
My question is very simple and it is not unrevelevant vis-à-vis this
thread, therefore I keep the same thread.
What need is to get either the usual citation format (often in plain
style) \cite{one-reference-paper-year} or this one with a mentioned page:
\cite[page n]{one-reference-paper-year}.
With ox-bibtex.el [[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] will export as
\cite[page n]{one-reference-paper-year}
My problem with cite: org-mode format is that I am not able to get the
second format. Ideally , I want to click on the reference and just to add
the quoted page.
I do not doubt that this is easy to get in org-mode, but I'm wasting my
time to find how... if it is possible to get it with org-ref or via
another tool, many thanks in advance.
Best regards
Jo.
--
Eric Schulte
https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte
PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
Re: [O] org-ref in action
2014-06-29 20:19 GMT+02:00 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com:
With ox-bibtex.el [[cite:(page n)one-reference-paper-year]] will export as
\cite[page n]{one-reference-paper-year}
Many thanks Eric . It helps a lot !
Best wishes
Jo.
Re: [O] org-ref in action
On 2014-06-26 20:44, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know nothing of biblatex). I don't think this is possible without some major hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. Is there a list of these new entry types? Looking at the code for bibtex2html (for instance https://github.com/backtracking/bibtex2html/blob/master/bibtex.mli) I see that entry types are strings, so if there are issues, I guess they would happen in the generation part but not in the parsing part. Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that bibtex cannot handle. I'm very ignorant here: from my understanding, bibtex2html does not care about bibtex style, it just takes bibtex data as input and produces html. Is the problem that some entries are ignored, or is there something deeper that I'm missing? Alan PS: if anyone on the list think we should take this off-list, please let me know -- OpenPGP Key ID : 040D0A3B4ED2E5C7 pgpE103AQebyZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Hello Jonhn, hello the list, I have already used org-bibtex (and ox-bibtex) and I have just tried to use org-ref . Is it possible that a conflict exists between the former(s) and the latter? My links for example are not clickable and the link to the default bibliography does not work at all... But I have started from an older org file used with org-bibtex. Your help is welcome : could you show us a minimal file in order to test org-ref ? Best wishes, Jo. 2014-06-26 14:48 GMT+02:00 John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu: Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in that org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for searching, and org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend database, and tag/property searches (I think). It is like the difference between org-contacts and bbdb. They both serve similar needs, but with different data sources, and different ways to think about it. We might be able to figure out a way to specify a backend that would allow the independent features to work in both though. John --- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Fabrice Popineau fabrice.popin...@supelec.fr wrote: +1 for org-bibtex (and ox-bibtex) that I'm using for a couple of years. But org-ref seems to go further (video is convincing). It would be really nice to merge org-ref and org-bibtex before they split too far apart. Wishful thinking from me because I don't see that I'm in position to do it. Fabrice 2014-06-26 3:10 GMT+02:00 Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented. Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and contrib? And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all independently? I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is that no-one knows it exists. Well, you can count on one big fan of org-bibtex.el here! (Though I must admit that I have not used ox-bibtex.el.) To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality. https://vimeo.com/99167082 Thanks! Over the years, I've particularly appreciated the way org-bibtex.el makes it easy to keep bib data together with notes/todos. Both org-bibtex-read and org-bibtex-yank have become indispensable to my own workflow. Best, Matt -- Fabrice Popineau - SUPELEC Département Informatique 3, rue Joliot Curie 91192 Gif/Yvette Cedex Tel direct : +33 (0) 169851950 Standard : +33 (0) 169851212 --
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Aloha Xebar, Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes: Hi all off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love using org but im really not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific publications, writing my CV etc. The problem is i cant really find a good for dummies guide on how to really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up really fast on this. Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not very technical :)) and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhaps start by drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier? I wrote an Org mode template for a PLOS One journal article: http://orgmode.org/worg/exporters/plos-one-template-worg.html It uses asynchronous export that gets initialized with a file that is tangled from the template. This should get you past the common problem of unexpected results because of something in your setup. Because it is a self-contained project, it might be easier to understand what needs to be done to use Org mode to write scientific papers. hth, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] org-ref in action
off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love using org but im really not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific publications, writing my CV etc. The problem is i cant really find a good for dummies guide on how to really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up really fast on this. I wrote something that you may find useful: https://github.com/vikasrawal/orgpaper/blob/master/orgpapers.org Vikas
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Very useful guide. Thank you.
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Yes, totally off topic for this thread, please start a new one. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love using org but im really not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific publications, writing my CV etc. The problem is i cant really find a good for dummies guide on how to really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up really fast on this. Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not very technical :)) and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhaps start by drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier? kind regards Z. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know nothing of biblatex). I don't think this is possible without some major hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that bibtex cannot handle. Best, Matt
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: On 2014-06-26 20:44, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: I don't think this is possible without some major hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. Is there a list of these new entry types? It depends on the style. I use the biblatex-chicago style. I grepped the sample bib file supplied with the package to get a list of entry types[fn:1] and fields.[fn:2] And this represents only a subset of the possible fields! See also the variable bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist in bibtex.el (shipped with emacs). Looking at the code for bibtex2html (for instance https://github.com/backtracking/bibtex2html/blob/master/bibtex.mli) I see that entry types are strings, so if there are issues, I guess they would happen in the generation part but not in the parsing part. You are right. I see that one can specify a style file for parsing bib files and biblatex does supply a biblatex.bst, e.g., bibtex2html -s biblatex However, this still produces errors (and a blank html file) when I run it on a larger bib file that pdflatex/biber parses fine. I was able to get it to run without errors on a small carefully culled subset (a book and an article). Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. I'm very ignorant here: from my understanding, bibtex2html does not care about bibtex style, it just takes bibtex data as input and produces html. Is the problem that some entries are ignored, Yes, as well as many fields. or is there something deeper that I'm missing? For my particular use-case, the problem is that it formats the bibliographical data incorrectly. This is because biblatex relies on LaTeX macros (rather than bibtex) to format the bibliography. Thus, any utility that relies on bibtex to format bibliographies not work with biblatex styles. This, by the way, is why biblatex was is such a boon for those of use working in the humanities: bibtex was *never* sufficient for humanities citations. E.g., the biblatex-chicago style outputs a bibliographical item for a book like this (with org markup added to show emphasis): Wolloch, Isser. /The New Regime: Transformations of the French Civic Order, 1789--1820s/. New York and London: W. W. Norton, 1994. bibtex2html produces this: Isser Wolloch. /The New Regime./ W. W. Norton, 1994. Best, Matt (who also would also be happy to take this off list) Footnotes: [fn:1] Article, Artwork, Audio, Book, Booklet, Collection, CustomC, Image, InBook, InCollection, inproceedings, InReference, Letter, Manual, MastersThesis, Misc, Music, MVCollection, Online, Patent, Periodical, PhdThesis, Reference, Review, SuppBook, TechReport, Unpublished, Video [fn:2] addendum, address, afterword, annote, author, authortype, bookauthor, booksubtitle, booktitle, booktitleaddon, chapter, crossref, date, doi, edition, editor, editora, editoratype, editortype, entrysubtype, eventdate, howpublished, institution, isbn, issue, issuetitle, journaltitle, keywords, language, lista, location, longcrossref, mainsubtitle, maintitle, month, namea, nameaddon, nameb, namec, note, number, options, organization, origdate, origlanguage, origlocation, origpublisher, pages, part, publisher, pubstate, school, series, shortauthor, shorthand, shorttitle, sortkey, sorttitle, subtitle, title, titleaddon, translator, type, url, urldate, useauthor, usecompiler, useeditor, usera, userc, userd, usere, userf, volume, volumes, xref, year
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Thanks for your answer on that everybody. My apologies for my poor grammar asking where people discuss such questions in real life. What I really had wanted to say, what I meant, was that I was wondering what professions utilize such workflows and where they discuss it primarily because the topic does go beyond LaTeX alone. My usage of such a workflow is pretty lightweight, and I've never had anyone to talk to about it because in my field generally no one cites their references. Grant Rettke | ACM, ASA, FSF, IEEE, SIAM g...@wisdomandwonder.com | http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ “Wisdom begins in wonder.” --Socrates ((λ (x) (x x)) (λ (x) (x x))) “Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.” --Thompson On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Grant Rettke g...@wisdomandwonder.com writes: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: I think the key in any possible feature merge is to remember citation management is idiosyncratic. Off topic: How do people choose today? Why choose bibtex over biblatex? Thanks to inertia, bibtex still has a number of users in the sciences, since it was originally designed for scientific citations. In the humanities, however, bibtex is a non-starter, since biblatex offers much more flexibility. The good news is that bibtex and biblatex use the same database format, so it's easy to transition from bibtex to biblatex. However, there are other options, such as CSL.[1] Where do people discuss such questions like this in real life? I'm not sure I understand your question. Could you clarify? I simply meant that everyone will have a different workflow/system for storing and managing citations. E.g., some will prefer to store bibliographical data in a zotero database, others in a single bib file, others in multiple bib files, others as properties in org headlines, etc. I think one can make a conception distinction here between citation management (i.e., how one stores bibliographical data) and citation processing (i.e., the software one uses to export that data to some output format). There are many, many formats (mods, bib, etc.) and tools (biber, bibtex, csl/citeproc, etc.) for formatting bibliographical data. In an ideal world, one should be able to 1) process bibliographical data from multiple formats; 2) choose from hundreds of citation styles; and 3) format citations for multiple backends. I am not suggesting that org-mode should directly support all these things, but its default methods of handling citations should not get in the way of using external tools that provide such flexibility. For instance, pandoc (an immensely impressive piece of software!) accepts bibliographical data from numerous sources and processes it for multiple outputs (html, plain text, docx, rtf, etc.). By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. Ironically, ox-bibtex.el invokes pandoc to convert from html to plain text, but only after it has already used bibtex2html to process the data. Best, Matt Footnotes: [1] Citation Style Language - http://citationstyles.org/
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Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: You are right. I see that one can specify a style file for parsing bib files and biblatex does supply a biblatex.bst, e.g., bibtex2html -s biblatex However, this still produces errors (and a blank html file) when I run it on a larger bib file that pdflatex/biber parses fine. I was able to get it to run without errors on a small carefully culled subset (a book and an article). For the record, after correcting an error in several of my bib entries, bibtex2html -s biblatex is able to parse a biblatex database without error. However, the resulting html is empty. Thanks, Matt
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You may find some information here: https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/tree/master/examples that is helpful to you. i have collected some examples for various journals we have published in with orgmode there. The jmax repo is what my group currently uses for this purpose. It may not be what you want to do, but there are a lot of good ideas in it (imho of course ;) John --- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love using org but im really not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific publications, writing my CV etc. The problem is i cant really find a good for dummies guide on how to really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up really fast on this. Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not very technical :)) and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhaps start by drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier? kind regards Z. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know nothing of biblatex). I don't think this is possible without some major hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that bibtex cannot handle. Best, Matt
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+1 for org-bibtex (and ox-bibtex) that I'm using for a couple of years. But org-ref seems to go further (video is convincing). It would be really nice to merge org-ref and org-bibtex before they split too far apart. Wishful thinking from me because I don't see that I'm in position to do it. Fabrice 2014-06-26 3:10 GMT+02:00 Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented. Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and contrib? And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all independently? I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is that no-one knows it exists. Well, you can count on one big fan of org-bibtex.el here! (Though I must admit that I have not used ox-bibtex.el.) To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality. https://vimeo.com/99167082 Thanks! Over the years, I've particularly appreciated the way org-bibtex.el makes it easy to keep bib data together with notes/todos. Both org-bibtex-read and org-bibtex-yank have become indispensable to my own workflow. Best, Matt -- Fabrice Popineau - SUPELEC Département Informatique 3, rue Joliot Curie 91192 Gif/Yvette Cedex Tel direct : +33 (0) 169851950 Standard : +33 (0) 169851212 --
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Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in that org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for searching, and org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend database, and tag/property searches (I think). It is like the difference between org-contacts and bbdb. They both serve similar needs, but with different data sources, and different ways to think about it. We might be able to figure out a way to specify a backend that would allow the independent features to work in both though. John --- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Fabrice Popineau fabrice.popin...@supelec.fr wrote: +1 for org-bibtex (and ox-bibtex) that I'm using for a couple of years. But org-ref seems to go further (video is convincing). It would be really nice to merge org-ref and org-bibtex before they split too far apart. Wishful thinking from me because I don't see that I'm in position to do it. Fabrice 2014-06-26 3:10 GMT+02:00 Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented. Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and contrib? And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all independently? I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is that no-one knows it exists. Well, you can count on one big fan of org-bibtex.el here! (Though I must admit that I have not used ox-bibtex.el.) To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality. https://vimeo.com/99167082 Thanks! Over the years, I've particularly appreciated the way org-bibtex.el makes it easy to keep bib data together with notes/todos. Both org-bibtex-read and org-bibtex-yank have become indispensable to my own workflow. Best, Matt -- Fabrice Popineau - SUPELEC Département Informatique 3, rue Joliot Curie 91192 Gif/Yvette Cedex Tel direct : +33 (0) 169851950 Standard : +33 (0) 169851212 --
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John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in that org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for searching, and org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend database, and tag/property searches (I think). It is like the difference between org-contacts and bbdb. They both serve similar needs, but with different data sources, and different ways to think about it. Yes, org-bibtex.el generally precludes the use of reftex to enter citations. I get around this problem with a custom perl script, which runs automatically in the background, extracts all org-bibtex data, and deposits it in a central bib file. We might be able to figure out a way to specify a backend that would allow the independent features to work in both though. I think the key in any possible feature merge is to remember citation management is idiosyncratic. I.e., org-mode should offer helper functions that enable individuals to customize their own workflows rather than systems that dictate a particular workflow (e.g., a single notes file) or presuppose a specific export backend. For instance, org-mode citation tools should not assume that users will export via bibtex/bibtex2html rather than, say, biber/biblatex or pandoc (which now has a powerful, format-agnostic citation filter).[1] Best, Matt Footnotes: [1] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/demo/example19/Citations.html
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Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in that org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for searching, and org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend database, and tag/property searches (I think). It is like the difference between org-contacts and bbdb. They both serve similar needs, but with different data sources, and different ways to think about it. Yes, org-bibtex.el generally precludes the use of reftex to enter citations. s/enter/search/
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: I think the key in any possible feature merge is to remember citation management is idiosyncratic. Off topic: How do people choose today? Why choose bibtex over biblatex? Where do people discuss such questions like this in real life?
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On 2014-06-26 at 10:11, Grant Rettke wrote: Why choose bibtex over biblatex? People choose bibtex because that is how it has been done and is well supported/documented and still popular on Google results. People choose biblatex because that appears to be the new under-development with-bells-and-whistles way moving forward. Where do people discuss such questions like this in real life? http://tex.stackexchange.com -k.
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Grant Rettke g...@wisdomandwonder.com writes: How do people choose today? Why choose bibtex over biblatex? For journal submission. With BibTeX you only have to copy paste at the end of your LaTeX file the contents of the generated .bbl file. Moreover, journals provide a default style for BibTeX, not biblatex. And I have never seen a journal that supports biblatex (there might be a few), but any journal that supports LaTeX supports BibTeX. Where do people discuss such questions like this in real life? In the orgmode list =)
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Grant Rettke g...@wisdomandwonder.com writes: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: I think the key in any possible feature merge is to remember citation management is idiosyncratic. Off topic: How do people choose today? Why choose bibtex over biblatex? Thanks to inertia, bibtex still has a number of users in the sciences, since it was originally designed for scientific citations. In the humanities, however, bibtex is a non-starter, since biblatex offers much more flexibility. The good news is that bibtex and biblatex use the same database format, so it's easy to transition from bibtex to biblatex. However, there are other options, such as CSL.[1] Where do people discuss such questions like this in real life? I'm not sure I understand your question. Could you clarify? I simply meant that everyone will have a different workflow/system for storing and managing citations. E.g., some will prefer to store bibliographical data in a zotero database, others in a single bib file, others in multiple bib files, others as properties in org headlines, etc. I think one can make a conception distinction here between citation management (i.e., how one stores bibliographical data) and citation processing (i.e., the software one uses to export that data to some output format). There are many, many formats (mods, bib, etc.) and tools (biber, bibtex, csl/citeproc, etc.) for formatting bibliographical data. In an ideal world, one should be able to 1) process bibliographical data from multiple formats; 2) choose from hundreds of citation styles; and 3) format citations for multiple backends. I am not suggesting that org-mode should directly support all these things, but its default methods of handling citations should not get in the way of using external tools that provide such flexibility. For instance, pandoc (an immensely impressive piece of software!) accepts bibliographical data from numerous sources and processes it for multiple outputs (html, plain text, docx, rtf, etc.). By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. Ironically, ox-bibtex.el invokes pandoc to convert from html to plain text, but only after it has already used bibtex2html to process the data. Best, Matt Footnotes: [1] Citation Style Language - http://citationstyles.org/
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John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Some features could be merged, but there is an important difference in that org-ref uses bibtex as the backend database, and reftex for searching, and org-bibtex uses org-mode headings as the backend database, and tag/property searches (I think). It is like the difference between org-contacts and bbdb. They both serve similar needs, but with different data sources, and different ways to think about it. We might be able to figure out a way to specify a backend that would allow the independent features to work in both though. I wonder what the API would look like. The following functions comes to my mind. I'm not sure if there would be much more for org-ref... - jump location for citation by ID - return bibtex information for citation by ID - validate citation With those functions I imagine that a good deal of higher-level code could be shared in a backend agnostic way. Including, - jump to citations - provide information on citations - collect citations during publishing (possibly automatically create the bib file) If merging makes sense that's great, but if not then there's certainly no harm in a diverse ecosystem of org tools supporting different work flows and backend tools. Best, Eric John --- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Fabrice Popineau fabrice.popin...@supelec.fr wrote: +1 for org-bibtex (and ox-bibtex) that I'm using for a couple of years. But org-ref seems to go further (video is convincing). It would be really nice to merge org-ref and org-bibtex before they split too far apart. Wishful thinking from me because I don't see that I'm in position to do it. Fabrice 2014-06-26 3:10 GMT+02:00 Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented. Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and contrib? And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all independently? I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is that no-one knows it exists. Well, you can count on one big fan of org-bibtex.el here! (Though I must admit that I have not used ox-bibtex.el.) To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality. https://vimeo.com/99167082 Thanks! Over the years, I've particularly appreciated the way org-bibtex.el makes it easy to keep bib data together with notes/todos. Both org-bibtex-read and org-bibtex-yank have become indispensable to my own workflow. Best, Matt -- Fabrice Popineau - SUPELEC Département Informatique 3, rue Joliot Curie 91192 Gif/Yvette Cedex Tel direct : +33 (0) 169851950 Standard : +33 (0) 169851212 -- -- Eric Schulte https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
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On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know nothing of biblatex). Alan -- OpenPGP Key ID : 040D0A3B4ED2E5C7 pgpj7Ur28svBy.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know nothing of biblatex). I don't think this is possible without some major hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that bibtex cannot handle. Best, Matt
[O] org-ref in action
Hi John, Thanks for sharing. My students and I love it. Cheers, M
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Hi all off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love using org but im really not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific publications, writing my CV etc. The problem is i cant really find a good for dummies guide on how to really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up really fast on this. Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not very technical :)) and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhaps start by drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier? kind regards Z. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is pretty much limited to the old-fashioned bibtex formats. What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know nothing of biblatex). I don't think this is possible without some major hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that bibtex cannot handle. Best, Matt
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Hi John, thanks for working on this! The demo is impressive. I've not explored or tested org-ref.el directly, but my feeling is that there are some neat features that could sneak into Org's core, like for example multiple targets for the same custom link, sorting of those targets, etc. I'll have a closer look ASAP -- thanks again, -- Bastien
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John, Thanks for a very interesting tutorial. I was trying to load org-ref.el, but get the following error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument consp nil) setcar(nil ((87 . textcite:%l) (122 . newcite:%l))) (let* ((c (nthcdr 2 (assoc (quote org) reftex-cite-format-builtin (setcar c (append (nth 2 (assoc (quote org) reftex-cite-format-builtin)) (quote ((87 . textcite:%l) (122 . newcite:%l)) eval-buffer() ; Reading at buffer position 194 call-interactively(eval-buffer record nil) command-execute(eval-buffer record) execute-extended-command(nil eval-buffer) call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) Am I missing something? Vikas On 24-Jun-2014, at 8:45 pm, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Hello everyone, org-ref has basically stabilized. You can get the latest code at https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org-ref.org. I made a little screen capture video here to show you what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvpSVl4_dg Try it out, if it looks interesting, and let me know if you find any bugs! Thanks, -- --- John Kitchin
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John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Hello everyone, org-ref has basically stabilized. You can get the latest code at https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org-ref.org. I made a little screen capture video here to show you what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvpSVl4_dg Try it out, if it looks interesting, and let me know if you find any bugs! Thanks, Great, This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented. Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and contrib? And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all independently? I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is that no-one knows it exists. To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality. https://vimeo.com/99167082 Best, Eric -- Eric Schulte https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
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John: Beautiful, thanks! Eric: My goodness, that 8 minute video sums up what was not obvious to many even after wantingly browsing the documentation on it. Thanks! Grant Rettke | ACM, ASA, FSF, IEEE, SIAM g...@wisdomandwonder.com | http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ “Wisdom begins in wonder.” --Socrates ((λ (x) (x x)) (λ (x) (x x))) “Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.” --Thompson On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com wrote: John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Hello everyone, org-ref has basically stabilized. You can get the latest code at https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org-ref.org. I made a little screen capture video here to show you what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvpSVl4_dg Try it out, if it looks interesting, and let me know if you find any bugs! Thanks, Great, This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented. Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and contrib? And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all independently? I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is that no-one knows it exists. To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality. https://vimeo.com/99167082 Best, Eric -- Eric Schulte https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte PGP: 0x614CA05D (see https://u.fsf.org/yw)
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Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: This is a lot of useful functionality, and very nicely presented. Did you happen to try the built in bibtex support in Org-mode core and contrib? And if so, is there a reason that you implemented this all independently? I think part of the problem with existing Org-mode bibtex support is that no-one knows it exists. Well, you can count on one big fan of org-bibtex.el here! (Though I must admit that I have not used ox-bibtex.el.) To help address this I threw up a very quick-and-dirty screen cast demonstrating some of Org's existing bibtex functionality. https://vimeo.com/99167082 Thanks! Over the years, I've particularly appreciated the way org-bibtex.el makes it easy to keep bib data together with notes/todos. Both org-bibtex-read and org-bibtex-yank have become indispensable to my own workflow. Best, Matt
[O] org-ref in action
Hello everyone, org-ref has basically stabilized. You can get the latest code at https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org-ref.org. I made a little screen capture video here to show you what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvpSVl4_dg Try it out, if it looks interesting, and let me know if you find any bugs! Thanks, -- --- John Kitchin
Re: [O] org-ref in action
Hi John, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Hello everyone, org-ref has basically stabilized. You can get the latest code at https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org-ref.org. I made a little screen capture video here to show you what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvpSVl4_dg Try it out, if it looks interesting, and let me know if you find any bugs! Wow! Nice work. Thanks for pursuing this. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] org-ref in action
John, This is simply amazing. I think this covers basically every item on my org-mode reference handling wish list. It's really great, thank you! Will this be on Melpa soon? -Ista On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:45 PM, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Hello everyone, org-ref has basically stabilized. You can get the latest code at https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org-ref.org. I made a little screen capture video here to show you what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvpSVl4_dg Try it out, if it looks interesting, and let me know if you find any bugs! Thanks, -- --- John Kitchin
Re: [O] org-ref in action
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: org-ref has basically stabilized. You can get the latest code at https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/org-ref.org. I made a little screen capture video here to show you what it does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvpSVl4_dg Try it out, if it looks interesting, and let me know if you find any bugs! This looks interesting. Thanks for the work you put into it! I look forward to trying it out. Matt
[O] org-ref in action
Thanks John, I have been using it for a while. It is a fantastic tool for org-mode to organize the bib. Great thanks again.
