Re: [Emc-developers] How closely do we need to adhere to the NIST standard?

2024-04-09 Thread Andy Pugh



> On 9 Apr 2024, at 19:43, Nicklas SB Karlsson  wrote:
> 
> There might be requirements for safety reasons but do not think we need to 
> care about some standard require MDI commands
> to be executed only with a physical button.

This is actually already the case with Touchy, FWiW. And is one of the reasons 
I use it. 

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Re: [Emc-developers] How closely do we need to adhere to the NIST standard?

2024-04-09 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
There might be requirements for safety reasons but do not think we need to care 
about some standard require MDI commands
to be executed only with a physical button.

For safety reasons I have a safety relay connected to physical buttons. Then 
power is turned off and energy stored
stored in capacitors have been consumed computer can't start the machine even 
if it want to.

Nicklas Karlsson


tis 2024-04-09 klockan 13:59 +0100 skrev andy pugh:
> Apart from anything else, I am not sure that it is a standard.
> 
> This is based on bug report #2956. Our current behaviour does not match the
> NIST RS274 interpreter "report" from 2000.
> 
> The last actual "RS" standard (ie the RS in RS274) was issued in the 1970s.
> There is an ISO standard from 1982, and then the NIST EMC report from 2000.
> 
> My own feeling is that any deliberate deviation from the NIST v3 report is
> not a "bug" as such, and that perhaps we should simply close the "bug" as a
> "feature".
> 
> Has anyone else looked at this bug report? What do you think?
> 
> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2956
> 




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Re: [Emc-developers] How closely do we need to adhere to the NIST standard?

2024-04-09 Thread Eric Keller
I see no evidence that NIST wanted that document to serve as a
standard. They don't generally issue their own standards, but when
they do, they let you know. I don't think LCNC should be bound to that
document, it was incomplete. I would close the bug report as a
misunderstanding of LCNC's goals.
Eric Keller
Boalsburg, Pennsylvania

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 9:04 AM andy pugh  wrote:
>
> Apart from anything else, I am not sure that it is a standard.
>
> This is based on bug report #2956. Our current behaviour does not match the
> NIST RS274 interpreter "report" from 2000.
>
> The last actual "RS" standard (ie the RS in RS274) was issued in the 1970s.
> There is an ISO standard from 1982, and then the NIST EMC report from 2000.
>
> My own feeling is that any deliberate deviation from the NIST v3 report is
> not a "bug" as such, and that perhaps we should simply close the "bug" as a
> "feature".
>
> Has anyone else looked at this bug report? What do you think?
>
> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2956
>
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> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-developers] How closely do we need to adhere to the NISTstandard?

2024-04-09 Thread gene heskett

On 4/9/24 09:02, andy pugh wrote:

Apart from anything else, I am not sure that it is a standard.

This is based on bug report #2956. Our current behaviour does not match the
NIST RS274 interpreter "report" from 2000.

The last actual "RS" standard (ie the RS in RS274) was issued in the 1970s.
There is an ISO standard from 1982, and then the NIST EMC report from 2000.

My own feeling is that any deliberate deviation from the NIST v3 report is
not a "bug" as such, and that perhaps we should simply close the "bug" as a
"feature".

Has anyone else looked at this bug report? What do you think?

https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2956

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[Emc-developers] How closely do we need to adhere to the NIST standard?

2024-04-09 Thread andy pugh
Apart from anything else, I am not sure that it is a standard.

This is based on bug report #2956. Our current behaviour does not match the
NIST RS274 interpreter "report" from 2000.

The last actual "RS" standard (ie the RS in RS274) was issued in the 1970s.
There is an ISO standard from 1982, and then the NIST EMC report from 2000.

My own feeling is that any deliberate deviation from the NIST v3 report is
not a "bug" as such, and that perhaps we should simply close the "bug" as a
"feature".

Has anyone else looked at this bug report? What do you think?

https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/2956

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for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
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