RE: Logo for Ventilation Hole

2000-09-04 Thread Scott Lacey

Koh,
In my opinion, this is a totally unacceptable situation. Label or not, some
of the units sold will eventually encounter a situation where the
ventilation hole gets blocked. Since the design is nearly complete, your
choices will be limited. I think that you must include an overtemperature
shutdown device such as a bimetal, thermal fuse, or PTC thermistor. All
coffemakers, portable hair dryers, and similar devices include them. If you
do not, you run the risk of major lawsuits, especially in the U.S. market.
If a child becomes injured the financial penalties could be massive.

Scott Lacey

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Of Koh Nai Ghee
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:31 AM
To: EMC-PSTC
Subject: Logo for Ventilation Hole



Hi EMC-PSTC group,

A team within my company is currently designing a amplifier speaker
unit.
Due to the current drawn is high and heat are dissipated.
Therefore the encloseure need some ventilation hole.

Unfortunately, till the very late stage of the design cycle, they found
out if this ventilation hole was blocked, it will cause the plastic
enclosure to melt.

A question was asked,

Is there a safety label/logo that we can affixed onto the plastic
enclosure so that to tell user not to block this enclosure?
(Or not to place it in a area where the ventilation will be blocked.)

I've never seen such label or logo before.
Has anyone out there seen such type of label/logo?
Any advice from the group would be much appreciated.

Regards
Koh



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ADSL system. FCC requirements

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Merguerian


Dear Group,

We have ADSL system comprising subscriber unit (SU) and Central Office unit
(COU).

Please advise

1. Do we need FCC68 for COU? It is connected in parallel with the existing
POTS service and theoretically can affect parameters such as REN and noise
in POTS bandwidth.

2. I believe that FCC15 is covered by Bellcore CR-1089 EMC tests, which we
did. Do we still need a statement of compliance with FCC15 on COU (for
custom or the like).

3. Is FCC15 is applicable to CO units at all (say we did not have Bellcore
report)?

Your prompt response is much appreciated.


Peter Merguerian
Managing Director
Product Testing Division
I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd.
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RE: Logo for Ventilation Hole

2000-09-04 Thread Colgan, Chris

Koh

Beware, the 6th edition of IEC60065, clause 4.3.10 calls for a fault
conditions test whereby each group of ventilation openings is blocked in
turn.  Groups of openings are defined as 1) those on the top and 2) those on
the sides and back excluding the front.  It sounds like your product would
fail this test.

Regards

Chris Colgan
EMC & Safety
TAG McLaren Audio Ltd

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> -Original Message-
> From: Koh Nai Ghee [SMTP:koh...@cyberway.com.sg]
> Sent: 04 September 2000 14:31
> To:   EMC-PSTC
> Subject:  Logo for Ventilation Hole
> 
> 
> Hi EMC-PSTC group,
> 
> A team within my company is currently designing a amplifier speaker
> unit.
> Due to the current drawn is high and heat are dissipated.
> Therefore the encloseure need some ventilation hole.
> 
> Unfortunately, till the very late stage of the design cycle, they found
> out if this ventilation hole was blocked, it will cause the plastic
> enclosure to melt.
> 
> A question was asked,
> 
> Is there a safety label/logo that we can affixed onto the plastic
> enclosure so that to tell user not to block this enclosure?
> (Or not to place it in a area where the ventilation will be blocked.)
> 
> I've never seen such label or logo before.
> Has anyone out there seen such type of label/logo?
> Any advice from the group would be much appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> Koh
> 
> 
> 
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Logo for Ventilation Hole

2000-09-04 Thread Koh Nai Ghee

Hi EMC-PSTC group,

A team within my company is currently designing a amplifier speaker
unit.
Due to the current drawn is high and heat are dissipated.
Therefore the encloseure need some ventilation hole.

Unfortunately, till the very late stage of the design cycle, they found
out if this ventilation hole was blocked, it will cause the plastic
enclosure to melt.

A question was asked,

Is there a safety label/logo that we can affixed onto the plastic
enclosure so that to tell user not to block this enclosure?
(Or not to place it in a area where the ventilation will be blocked.)

I've never seen such label or logo before.
Has anyone out there seen such type of label/logo?
Any advice from the group would be much appreciated.

Regards
Koh



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