Mexico requirements
To all, If a manufacturer of an FCC Part 18 device (ISM) wants to sell in Mexico, what are the procedures for meeting the Mexico standards? Is the MRA in sight? I know of the Telecom NOM's, but not about ISM equipment procedures. This is the first time we've had this inquiry, so any information would be helpful. Thanks to all. Bill Stumpf DLS Electronics 166 South Carter St. Genoa City WI 53128 ph: 262-279-0210 fx: 262-279-3630 email: bstu...@dlsemc.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Instrument Controller Software
-Original Message- From: John Cronin [ mailto:croni...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:29 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Instrument Controller Software Hi I have a requirement to log the screens from a spectrum analyser over a period of between one day and one week. I have been using the DDDA software from Stanford research with some success. However, I need a slightly more sophisticated package that will allow me to dump screens as plots at 15 minutes intervals over a prolonged period unto a laptop using GPIB. I envisage using an Advantest 3265 or HP 8562 analyzer. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Mnay thanks John Cronin John: HP used to have a program called Benchlink, a simple controller and data dumper for their instruments. It was available by download, in a free 30-day trial version, from their website. Try the Agilent site now. Ed Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com WB6WSN NARTE Certified EMC Engineer Technician Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Is Our Specialt http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Instrument Controller Software
John, If you buy a GPIB card for your laptop *and* your analyzer has the GPIB interface *and* you get your analyzer's software manual, you can learn and write all the software you need for your project in less than 2 hours. Ok, ok, more like 6 hours, but still - Robert - Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com 408 286 3985 fx 408 297 9121 AJM International Electronics Consultants 101 E San Fernando, Suite 402 San Jose, CA 95112 On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:29:04 + John Cronin croni...@hotmail.com wrote: This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Instrument Controller Software
Hi I have a requirement to log the screens from a spectrum analyser over a period of between one day and one week. I have been using the DDDA software from Stanford research with some success. However, I need a slightly more sophisticated package that will allow me to dump screens as plots at 15 minutes intervals over a prolonged period unto a laptop using GPIB. I envisage using an Advantest 3265 or HP 8562 analyzer. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Mnay thanks John Cronin _ It's fast, it's fun and it's free! Click here to download MSN Messenger. http://g.msn.com/8HMDENUK/2737??PS= --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
EU Language Requirements
Does the EU language requirements for user instruction/information extend to software user interfaces or is it reasonable to limit it to just user and service manuals? Also, what about licensing agreements and warranty information? Thanks in advance for your insights. Regards, Bob Zmudka This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: cable maximization - do you or don't you??
Charles, I applaud your integrity! You are right to insist on maximization of cable placement when performing emissions testing. The ANSI document does indeed call this out, and the cable placement, as well as the peripheral equipment placement, should be maximized, of course while staying within the boundaries of the ANSI C63.4 definition and typical installation/setup of the EUT. As you know, the idea is to investigate the worst case emissions from the system (EUT) within the typical parameters of use of the EUT. Some laboratories do not do this because it may be difficult and time-consuming, but they are doing you a disservice. Continue to insist that your lab/OEM supplier follows the ANSI C63 test setup and procedures. William M Stumpf DLS Electronics 166 South Carter St. Genoa City WI 53128 ph: 262-279-0210 fx: 262-279-3630 email: bstu...@dlsemc.com From: Charles Grasso [mailto:cgrassospri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:54 PM To: Emc-Pstc; charles.gra...@echostar.com Subject: cable maximization - do you or don't you?? Hi all, I have recently run into an issue with an OEM supplier. The product that we are looking at fails emissions after cable maximization. In an informal study, I discovered that quite a few labs don't seem to perform cable maximization on a routine basis. ANSIC63 is quite clear on this - the cables need to be maximized. Is cable maximization a thing of the past - to be written out - and test labs are maximizing throughput rather than cables OR is is something I should continue to insist on?? Comments will be gratefully accepted. Charles Grasso EchoStar Communicationa This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: New Approach vs WEEE/RoHS (EuE)
You will find the draft document at: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/eee/index.htm Move down to the first inset paragraph Working paperDirectiveEco-design and click on this for the pdf document. It is 18 pages long. Regards, Neil Helsby ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: New Approach vs WEEE/RoHS
Nick The proposal was called Draft for a Proposal for a Directive of the European Parliament and of the Council on establishing a framework for the Eco-design of End Use Equipment, and was dated 09-10-2002. There was a PDF (which I have) on the Commission website but I am not sure whether it is still there. We also understand that the term End Use Equipment (EUE) has now been amended to End User Products (EUP) - and that the scope may have changed somewhat. Regards John Allen, Technical Consultant EMC and Safety Engineering ERA Technology Ltd. Cleeve Road Leatherhead Surrey KT22 7SA UK Tel: +44-1372-367025 (Direct) +44-1372-367000 (Switchboard) Fax: +44-1372-367102 From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: 07 July 2003 19:04 To: Neil Helsby Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: New Approach vs WEEE/RoHS Neil, Are there any public documents accessible on the WWW regarding the framework directive you mention? Nick. At 9:44 + 4/7/03, Neil Helsby wrote: Joe, I haven't seen any replies to this query so will just put in my ha-peth (cent) for what it's worth. In order to declare conformity to New Approach Directives, the manufacturer places the CE mark on the product and issues a Declaration of Conformity. How does a manufacturer declare compliance to the WEEE/RoHS? The RoHS Directive is basically a legal requirement that certain substances are not used and is therefore just like other legislation. No CE mark is necessary. The WEEE Directive is more specific to specified industrial sectors basically specifying how waste and its recovery is to be dealt with. Again, no CE mark is necessary. A Directive still under discussion is the Eco-design of End Use Equipment. This is to present a framework for the integration of environment aspects in the design and development and for setting eco-design requirements This will require conformity assessment against harmonised standards. Presumably a Technical File must be produced to contain data that details environmental characteristics and performance of a product, disposal at end-of-life, the ecological profile of the product, etc... This WILL require to be CE marked to show conformance to the requirements. Regards, Neil Helsby This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com * Copyright ERA Technology Ltd. 2003. (www.era.co.uk). All rights reserved. The information supplied in this Commercial Communication should be treated in confidence. No liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss or damage suffered as a result of accessing this message or any attachments. _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: cable maximization - do you or don't you??
Hi All, my comment might not fit exactly into this thread but during my tests I made the observation that on some EUTs the emissions got worse when cables were removed. This happened mostly in the frequency range beyond 300MHz but also below. For the moment I have two theories on that: There are cancellation effects on the critical frequencies with the full cable configuration. The fact that a cable is attached or not influences the common-mode currents on the surface of the enclosure in direction and magnitude. This makes some slots in the enclosure more or less efficient antennas depending on the current in that area. The first theory suits more for the low-frequency range (300MHz) in my eyes and the second one for the rest. I am chewing on that one for a little while but neither have the time nor the means to explore these theories further. I am curious on your comments. For the moment these are just theories ... Any similar experiences? Best regards, Michael -Original Message- From: Charles Grasso [mailto:cgrassospri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Dienstag, 8. Juli 2003 05:59 To: Ken Javor; Emc-Pstc; charles.gra...@echostar.com Subject: RE: cable maximization - do you or don't you?? Hi Ken, Ahh the emissions analogy to the immunity tests? Hey - why not? After all there are plenty of conditions that arise NOT as an EUT problem but rather the artifical test environment that we use - i.e the OATS. We could then properly use a CALC without worrying about the cable radiation per se. Otts equation (derived from Banalis) is pretty accurate to half a wave length - the trick is what do you do after that? (Actually we have developed a correction factor here at Echostar..stay tuned..) -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:29 AM To: Charles Grasso; Emc-Pstc; charles.gra...@echostar.com Subject: Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you?? An excellent opportunity to ask a question of list members, especially those involved in standards writing. Why not calculate the cable conducted emission that would result in radiated spec level compliance, and levy a cable conducted emission requirement? Then OATS testing would not require cable manipulation, and any out of spec conditions would result from test sample enclosure emissions. From: Charles Grasso cgrassospri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: Charles Grasso cgrassospri...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:53:40 -0700 To: Emc-Pstc emc-p...@ieee.org, charles.gra...@echostar.com Subject: cable maximization - do you or don't you?? Hi all, I have recently run into an issue with an OEM supplier. The product that we are looking at fails emissions after cable maximization. In an informal study, I discovered that quite a few labs don't seem to perform cable maximization on a routine basis. ANSIC63 is quite clear on this - the cables need to be maximized. Is cable maximization a thing of the past - to be written out - and test labs are maximizing throughput rather than cables OR is is something I should continue to insist on?? Comments will be gratefully accepted. Charles Grasso EchoStar Communicationa --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc --- This
Re: High Power Transorb
I read in !emc-pstc that lfresea...@aol.com wrote (in 70.300239f4.2c3b4 b...@aol.com) about 'High Power Transorb' on Mon, 7 Jul 2003: Transorb power rating is specified normalised to a 1 mS pulse, otherwise you would be right. Well, I might be sort-of right anyway, if the OP didn't have a 1 ms pulse and had not already taken the time into account -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: cable maximization - do you or don't you??
Hi Ken, Ahh the emissions analogy to the immunity tests? Hey - why not? After all there are plenty of conditions that arise NOT as an EUT problem but rather the artifical test environment that we use - i.e the OATS. We could then properly use a CALC without worrying about the cable radiation per se. Otts equation (derived from Banalis) is pretty accurate to half a wave length - the trick is what do you do after that? (Actually we have developed a correction factor here at Echostar..stay tuned..) From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:29 AM To: Charles Grasso; Emc-Pstc; charles.gra...@echostar.com Subject: Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you?? An excellent opportunity to ask a question of list members, especially those involved in standards writing. Why not calculate the cable conducted emission that would result in radiated spec level compliance, and levy a cable conducted emission requirement? Then OATS testing would not require cable manipulation, and any out of spec conditions would result from test sample enclosure emissions. From: Charles Grasso cgrassospri...@earthlink.net Reply-To: Charles Grasso cgrassospri...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:53:40 -0700 To: Emc-Pstc emc-p...@ieee.org, charles.gra...@echostar.com Subject: cable maximization - do you or don't you?? Hi all, I have recently run into an issue with an OEM supplier. The product that we are looking at fails emissions after cable maximization. In an informal study, I discovered that quite a few labs don't seem to perform cable maximization on a routine basis. ANSIC63 is quite clear on this - the cables need to be maximized. Is cable maximization a thing of the past - to be written out - and test labs are maximizing throughput rather than cables OR is is something I should continue to insist on?? Comments will be gratefully accepted. Charles Grasso EchoStar Communicationa --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: cable maximization - do you or don't you??
I read in !emc-pstc that Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com wrote (in bb2f7186.2be2%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com) about 'cable maximization - do you or don't you??' on Mon, 7 Jul 2003: I don't think it is at all complicated, at least in principle. Maybe a devil will emerge out of some details I am missing... It's a point worth discussing. I don't see how an end-driven wire can radiate more efficiently than a tuned half-wave dipole. That model can be used to convert from field intensity at X meters to peak current on the cable. Agreed that it can't be more efficient, but it can be less efficient to a nearly unlimited extent, so making that assumption can be very pessimistic indeed. For the case of multiple cables one could make various assumptions about the additive effect of emissions at X meters: A worst case assumption is that the same spectrum could appear on each cable and add in phase at the measurement point. This would require subtracting from the previously determined single cable current limit the factor: 20*log (number of cables). I think this is unreasonable, that the summing would be of random phase and the factor to be subtracted from the single cable current limit ought to be 10*log (number of cables). Agreed, as a first approximation. I am not trying to say that this approach is precisely correct and should be implemented as is. I do think it would be interesting to make some cable measurements using an absorbing clamp and compare to the corresponding OATS profile and draw some conclusions. Yes, I think that is justified, now that you have raised the subject. Unfortunately, many such proposals are never investigated because no-one has the time, even if the costs can be handled. I think we all look forward to your report of the first results. (;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: EU Language Requirements
Bob, Compliance with translation requirements for safety is a regulatory requirement in many countries within the EU, but you are presumably not talking safety for your software interface? This means that primarily you are concerned with supplying a product that carries out a particular function after your customer has interfaced with the software in some way. Perhaps for the US market you have menus for your customers to follow and perhaps a help menu in case they get stuck? Consider that you were trying to sell two products having identical functionality in the US marketplace, one was available in American English only whereas the other was only available in Danish (or other language if you'd prefer): by what percentage would the English product outsell the Danish one? Even if the English language product did not exist, how much of an uphill struggle would it be to sell a Danish only product? Of course, in certain technical areas it may be that you could expect customers to have a reasonable grasp of the English language, but that is specific to your potential customer base and is something that you will need to address in your marketing strategy. You also ask about warrantees. Here you need to look not only at legislation dealing with language itself but also about legislation regarding implied terms in contract. In the consumer area at least there is legislation that effectively null and voids unreasonable terms in contracts (such as exist when you purchase a piece of software from a high-street shop and install it on your PC at home). However, if you wanted to include a limitation which (let us say) is considered to be reasonable if written in the language of the country concerned, then would it be worth the paper it was printed on if it were in a foreign language - I rather suspect it wouldn't? Regards, Richard Hughes Safety Answers Limited
Monitoring Random ESD events
I'm pretty new to the EMC scene and I need to monitor a product to see what kind of ESD events it generates on its own. The customer wants me to attach my oscope to their sensors and see what kind of ESD voltages their sensors see in daily operation. I know that I don't want to directly connect the oscope to the sensors while the machine is running. I was trying to figure out a way to isolate the signals on the sensors from the oscope but still get a value that is useful. I was thinking of some sort of current loop around the sensor wires. How would I correlate the current loop measurement to an ESD voltage? I'm probably not providing enough information but I'm not really sure what information will be needed. Thank you, Eric Penne epe...@ieee.org This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Instrument Controller Software
SR analyzers, at least the ones I have used, speak SCPI. I try to keep data logging utilities as simple as possible, use ANSI C, hi-level SCPI commands to control instruments, and send output to a file that can be accessed by more than one program. For a Windoze box, it will probably be more reliable to block-dump engineering-formatted data to a CSV file. Open and close the file for each data block copy. Data logging for several hours on a WIndoze box is not reliable unless you isolate the software modules using seperate threads for each major process. luck, Brian -Original Message- From: John Cronin [ mailto:croni...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:29 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Instrument Controller Software Hi I have a requirement to log the screens from a spectrum analyser over a period of between one day and one week. I have been using the DDDA software from Stanford research with some success. However, I need a slightly more sophisticated package that will allow me to dump screens as plots at 15 minutes intervals over a prolonged period unto a laptop using GPIB. I envisage using an Advantest 3265 or HP 8562 analyzer
Shipments into Japan
I have recently been told that product going into Japan for sale must have the importers name on the label and the imported MUST be registered with METI (Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry). Has any one come up with this same requirement? What constitutes and importer? Gerald Tammi Zoom Telephonics Boston, MA This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Monitoring Random ESD events
Eric: First, do not attach your scope (via probes) to the EUT if it generates a static charge on its own. First, it is possible to blow the front end of your scope, and secondly, a 10 Mohm impedance will probably be low enough that any charge cannot build-up to the level you want to measure. John Shinn, P.E. Manager, Lab Operations Sanmina-SCI From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Eric Penne Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:38 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Monitoring Random ESD events I'm pretty new to the EMC scene and I need to monitor a product to see what kind of ESD events it generates on its own. The customer wants me to attach my oscope to their sensors and see what kind of ESD voltages their sensors see in daily operation. I know that I don't want to directly connect the oscope to the sensors while the machine is running. I was trying to figure out a way to isolate the signals on the sensors from the oscope but still get a value that is useful. I was thinking of some sort of current loop around the sensor wires. How would I correlate the current loop measurement to an ESD voltage? I'm probably not providing enough information but I'm not really sure what information will be needed. Thank you, Eric Penne epe...@ieee.org This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Monitoring Random ESD events
If you can get near the sensors (1 inch), 3M makes a static field meter. Their Model 718 is a non-contact device and has an analog output proportional to the field for logging. Best of luck, Brent DeWitt Eric Penne epe...@ieee.org To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent by: cc: owner-emc-pstc@majordom Subject: Monitoring Random ESD events o.ieee.org 08-07-03 02:38 PM Please respond to Eric Penne I'm pretty new to the EMC scene and I need to monitor a product to see what kind of ESD events it generates on its own. The customer wants me to attach my oscope to their sensors and see what kind of ESD voltages their sensors see in daily operation. I know that I don't want to directly connect the oscope to the sensors while the machine is running. I was trying to figure out a way to isolate the signals on the sensors from the oscope but still get a value that is useful. I was thinking of some sort of current loop around the sensor wires. How would I correlate the current loop measurement to an ESD voltage? I'm probably not providing enough information but I'm not really sure what information will be needed. Thank you, Eric Penne epe...@ieee.org This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Instrument Controller Software
In a message dated 7/8/2003 4:57:55 PM Central Daylight Time, croni...@hotmail.com writes: Hi I have a requirement to log the screens from a spectrum analyser over a period of between one day and one week. I have been using the DDDA software from Stanford research with some success. However, I need a slightly more sophisticated package that will allow me to dump screens as plots at 15 minutes intervals over a prolonged period unto a laptop using GPIB. I envisage using an Advantest 3265 or HP 8562 analyzer. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Mnay thanks John Cronin Hi John, Schaffners Compliance 3 emissions package will do this for you. It has a lab windows flavour to it so you basically write a flow chart of what you want to do. What you describe would take about a half hour to set up. If you'd like to know more perhaps we should chat offline. Cheers, Derek N. Walton Owner L F Research EMC Design and Test Facility Poplar Grove, Illinois, USA www.lfresearch.com
