Re: [PSES] Good Morning - bad breakup?
Adding my $0.04 (adjusted for inflation!) I doubt my employer knows what the IEEE EMC Society is, let alone ‘cares’ about it. I find employers are more concerned with membership to internal committees for the betterment of the business. Take for example the Halloween Decoration Committee. Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 [http://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/StarTechLogo.png]<https://www.startech.com> [Laptop Docks]<https://www.startech.com/docking-stations> [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/Startechdotcom> [Linkedin] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/startech-com> [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/STARTECHdotCOM> [Contact us] <https://www.startech.com/ContactUs> This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. From: Ken Javor Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 12:26 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Good Morning - bad breakup? Did any employer care that you were a member of the IEEE EMC Society? I mean before you were a president and active? Even then, wasn’t it more on you to ensure your employer would back you up on all the travel and time before you could make commitments? Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Ghery Pettit https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fn6tpt%40comcast.net%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cbab6171a0b7d4747680d08daf3945311%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638090115841405178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=%2Bz0Xb5gvQzckh2SJGM9MDkZw03iVDKGfQ7UlZmC02CU%3D=0>> Reply-To: Ghery Pettit https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fn6tpt%40comcast.net%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cbab6171a0b7d4747680d08daf3945311%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638090115841405178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=%2Bz0Xb5gvQzckh2SJGM9MDkZw03iVDKGfQ7UlZmC02CU%3D=0>> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 20:58:14 -0800 To: https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FEMC-PSTC%40listserv.ieee.org%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cbab6171a0b7d4747680d08daf3945311%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638090115841405178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=EvRoN95uyCH6YJkXUJ5SqVZ9JH23j2iodDHZCh4Y9so%3D=0>> Subject: Re: [PSES] Good Morning - bad breakup? Patrick, I let my iNARTE certification end the end of 2022. I had held this certification since it was created. Never once did an employer seem to care about it. Personal experience. Take it for what it is worth. Ghery S. Pettit From: Patrick https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fconwaypr%40gmail.com%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cbab6171a0b7d4747680d08daf3945311%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638090115841405178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=BbDxoU76FsjSGeXAuXq152oxsGhytocaYjE6o2hoSFQ%3D=0>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 7:28 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FEMC-PSTC%40listserv.ieee.org%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cbab6171a0b7d4747680d08daf3945311%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638090115841405178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=EvRoN95uyCH6YJkXUJ5SqVZ9JH23j2iodDHZCh4Y9so%3D=0> Subject: Re: [PSES] Good Morning - bad breakup? So, it's true! With most breakups, parties hire lawyers and split assets. Since I'm both an iNARTE Certified EMC Engineer and Member IEEE EMC Society, I wonder which party will claim me? ;-) On the serious side, I wonder if employers will continue to value either certificate. Did they ever? On Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 16:49 Richard Nute https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frichn%40ieee.org%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cbab6171a0b7d4747680d08daf3945311%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638090115841561423%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=2%2FomifqsV0fqABrjcM9f75R4rEj6gaaPH6esCOAjIKg%3D=0>> wrote: The IEEE EMC Society has withdrawn from the Memoran
Re: [PSES] Cybersecurity?
Doug, Yes, the EU has a new cybersecurity requirement for IoT devices (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) - basically anything wireless. This is probably why you are being peppered with emails. I would expect to see a lot more about this topic as implementation dates get closer. Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 [http://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/StarTechLogo.png]<https://www.startech.com> [Mobile Workforce solutions]<http://www.startech.com/mobile-workforce-solutions> [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/Startechdotcom> [Linkedin] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/startech-com> [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/STARTECHdotCOM> [Contact us] <https://www.startech.com/ContactUs> This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. From: Douglas E Powell Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 4:10 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Cybersecurity? All, In the last few months, I've received a number of inquiries from recruiters thinking I have an interest in Cybersecurity. Many of these come to me via LinkedIn and I realize the word "compliance" shows up in many disciplines such as legal, financial, medical, etc. But now it seems all the recent hype into Cybersecurity and I.T. Compliance has created a fair bit of "noise"; and in my case as it is never related to EMC or Product Safety. Although I suppose Regulatory Compliance could be construed... I am curious to know if others on this forum are seeing a similar increase in inquiries, or is it just me? Thanks, Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA doug...@gmail.com<mailto:doug...@gmail.com> LinkedIn<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fcoloradocomplianceguy%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cf07d4ff668b746a743d108daa57b51ab%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638004246350695221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=ccRg86UxBR57bOgDpVBe8e5aXovN5YZ8EUOAyx%2B7oGs%3D=0> (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time (US-MDT) - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.html=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cf07d4ff668b746a743d108daa57b51ab%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638004246350695221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=vZ9T9qFDhFtCiwqr4zesA%2FlcWUnGrmu%2BX%2FK6WOrc1O4%3D=0> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cf07d4ff668b746a743d108daa57b51ab%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638004246350695221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=IEYoMCKdrEWxiPswxr07lAUUESd%2F2OAQmlayZQ7e7wM%3D=0> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flist.html=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cf07d4ff668b746a743d108daa57b51ab%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638004246350695221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=CLcgwIZbU%2FdX06eSE88Gz5IeZ88WCsezKOxpVjwXbug%3D=0> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flistrules.html=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cf07d4ff668b746a743d108daa57b51ab%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C638004246350695221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=3keznkt808mTo7cDCDZjhdB6K1VDrQKnLfA6xVCi2qU%3D=0> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> To u
Re: [PSES] EU Packaging Directive 97/129/EC: when does it become mandatory?
I am also interested in the answer to this question... With the requirements in France, Italy, and seemingly other EU/UK countries - product packaging and labels are going to be a dog's breakfast! Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 [http://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/StarTechLogo.png]<https://www.startech.com> [Mobile Workforce solutions]<http://www.startech.com/mobile-workforce-solutions> [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/Startechdotcom> [Linkedin] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/startech-com> [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/STARTECHdotCOM> [Contact us] <https://www.startech.com/ContactUs> This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. From: Richard Georgerian Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 11:02 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Packaging Directive 97/129/EC: when does it become mandatory? Greetings All, In regards to the EU Packaging Directive 97/129/EC, Italy has adopted the directive, but the rest of the EU has not. Reading the directive it is currently voluntary. However, is the directive going to be mandatory any time soon? Any assistance would be most appreciated. Thank-you, ...Richard Georgerian HID Global Compliance Engineer - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.html=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cba018e3719654834494f08da6fe0ec98%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637945309577468849%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=HWBh6ndz9HsGQjU8IZvJxJFHDzS%2Fzqk0XynbbKX2ozo%3D=0> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2F=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cba018e3719654834494f08da6fe0ec98%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637945309577468849%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=gMQdk3jsy1kBlTbHWlYnIGz3mpQI%2Ftj%2F140Ss3iZOTg%3D=0> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flist.html=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cba018e3719654834494f08da6fe0ec98%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637945309577468849%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=TzFkAIUp6710EqgbNGDSs7j%2F0KT98qto%2FBnu5Ky1d3E%3D=0> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flistrules.html=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cba018e3719654834494f08da6fe0ec98%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637945309577468849%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=1Hj%2Fi3EimDBaN4oAEiNF%2BPfDjvhLBLd6PZfgjBGrO1Q%3D=0> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1
[PSES] Job Opening - Product Compliance Administrator
StarTech.com is hiring a Product Compliance Administrator. Visit the StarTech.com careers website to find out further information. If you are interested, or have any questions - please let me know. Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 [http://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/StarTechLogo.png]<https://www.startech.com> [Community]<https://community.startech.com/> [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/Startechdotcom> [Linkedin] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/startech-com> [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/STARTECHdotCOM> [Contact us] <https://www.startech.com/ContactUs> This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1
Re: [PSES] Retrofit kits
Gary, The LED driver (assuming AC-to-DC) should be approved; however, the kit does not need to be certified. The field inspection will take into consideration the LED driver along with the rest of the equipment. I think you should be good to go! Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 StarTech.com This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. -Original Message- From: 05big...@gmail.com <05big...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 9:12 PM To: Chris Brown ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Retrofit kits Hi Chris, Thanks for the feedback. I am asking if a retrofit kit can/should be evaluated/certified to 62368. And for a twist, the product it goes into may not have NRTL approval when it leaves the factory and will need to be field evaluated after the kit is installed. Cheers, Gary -Original Message- From: Chris Brown Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 10:24 AM To: 05big...@gmail.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Retrofit kits Hello Gary, Can you please clarify your first question? Are you asking if the retrofit kits should be evaluated/certified to 62368, or, if a product that has been evaluated/certified to 62368 can incorporate a retrofit kit? For your second question, most will suggest that a qualified/trained person should conduct the retrofit kit installation; however, it is likely that the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) will require an inspection of the equipment once the work is completed. Usually, this can be accomplished via 'Special Inspection' with an accredited body (UL, CSA, etc...) Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 StarTech.com This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. -Original Message- From: Gary Tornquist <05big...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 11:53 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Retrofit kits Hello Experts, I am trying to understand the requirements around UL Listed retrofit kits intended for installation in the field. The only ones I am aware of are for upgrading light fixtures from older technologies to LED's. There are several flavors such as Self-ballasted LED Type Lamp category (OOLV) and Sign Conversions, Retrofit (UYWU). Can retrofit kits be listed for IT products examined to UL62368? Does it help if the installation is only done by trained personnel? Any advice is appreciated. Cheers, Gary Tornquist Product Safety Consulting - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.htmldata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cadfffd4bfc7b426d426108da436bb4a0%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637896427116783006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=CiSYG13Th3e6%2FLiugVPyBkmEiYddCSFlgaeiIEYOGgY%3Dreserved=0 Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fproduct-compliance.oc.ieee.org%2Fdata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cadfffd4bfc7b426d426108da436bb4a0%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637896427116783006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=nhtCH7%2FDpB6URh9KZSmUV31PerR8MtRiHeQoNTuemUw%3Dreserved=0 can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Fdata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Cadfffd4bfc7b426d426108da436bb4a0%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637896427116783006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C
Re: [PSES] Retrofit kits
Hello Gary, Can you please clarify your first question? Are you asking if the retrofit kits should be evaluated/certified to 62368, or, if a product that has been evaluated/certified to 62368 can incorporate a retrofit kit? For your second question, most will suggest that a qualified/trained person should conduct the retrofit kit installation; however, it is likely that the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) will require an inspection of the equipment once the work is completed. Usually, this can be accomplished via 'Special Inspection' with an accredited body (UL, CSA, etc...) Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 StarTech.com This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. -Original Message- From: Gary Tornquist <05big...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 11:53 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Retrofit kits Hello Experts, I am trying to understand the requirements around UL Listed retrofit kits intended for installation in the field. The only ones I am aware of are for upgrading light fixtures from older technologies to LED's. There are several flavors such as Self-ballasted LED Type Lamp category (OOLV) and Sign Conversions, Retrofit (UYWU). Can retrofit kits be listed for IT products examined to UL62368? Does it help if the installation is only done by trained personnel? Any advice is appreciated. Cheers, Gary Tornquist Product Safety Consulting - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.htmldata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7C4eb8f8b7544a41b3a2db08da3a144fe4%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637886156319034792%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=%2B3HkfWFEcsdjqcZBNFKk5TxVbJxuHmHZ5ipQc38ycEE%3Dreserved=0 Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fproduct-compliance.oc.ieee.org%2Fdata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7C4eb8f8b7544a41b3a2db08da3a144fe4%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637886156319034792%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=vAQ%2F5uJouF75rovteCn7NspMZC7j2bXZ3bH7A7UC4WM%3Dreserved=0 can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Fdata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7C4eb8f8b7544a41b3a2db08da3a144fe4%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637886156319034792%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=gZVWzCCeV%2BkrIB9DhATcq7njvK41mlr8UVsXUieNbfU%3Dreserved=0 Instructions: https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flist.htmldata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7C4eb8f8b7544a41b3a2db08da3a144fe4%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637886156319034792%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=ZuTPmcJ7P1GrflVagGI7N8PrR71yfOgnMTYMb4uFECQ%3Dreserved=0 (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flistrules.htmldata=05%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7C4eb8f8b7544a41b3a2db08da3a144fe4%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637886156319034792%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=YFkno6s1cNgNYvZCEiNKyDBLJDZyI%2Fj5pZZagcmRfgw%3Dreserved=0 For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://p
Re: [PSES] Withdrawal of EN 55024:2010
Thank you Charlie! This answers my question very well. Yes, 60950-1 to 62368-1 has been an 'adventure'. Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 From: Charlie Blackham Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 3:30 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Withdrawal of EN 55024:2010 Chris EU Directives don't require assessing (to new standards) to "remain compliant" - they require re-assessing to maintain a "Presumption of Conformity". There is no grandfathering under CE marking as standards are only every optional (though that's a narrow technicality to sit on for some directives) Market enforcement and customers expect Harmonised Standards to be applied, and that's the recommended approach. Depending on the product, and how it was configured and monitored when tested against EN 55024, you may find that only partial re-testing is required. This is much more straightforward for the transition from 55024 to 55035 than for 60950-1 to 62368-1 Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsulisconsultants.com%2F=04%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Caeddf902055b484cd9f708d8efc46bac%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637522974194384176%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=TWHoXiRe0HnyDEu3D0VFwmK9mdmFqkQtPIEM1Zh1SZY%3D=0> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Chris Brown mailto:chris.br...@startech.com>> Sent: 25 March 2021 19:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] Withdrawal of EN 55024:2010 FORWARD: In an Implementing Decision (EU) 2021/455 issued in mid-March, the Commission moved to replace the 2010 edition of EN 55024, Electromagnetic compatibility - Product family standard for audio, video, audio-visual and entertainment lighting control apparatus for professional use - Part 2: Immunity, with EN 55035: 2017, Electromagnetic compatibility of multimedia equipment - Immunity requirements. The date of withdrawal for EN 55024:2010 is mid-September 2022. QUESTION: Will this withdrawal be similar to the withdrawal of EN 60950-1, where models compliant with EN 60950-1 had to be assessed to EN 62368-1 in-order-to remain compliant? Or, will the change to EN 55035:2017 allow existing models to be "grandfathered" (i.e., models assessed to EN 55024:2010 not required to be assessed to the new harmonized standard EN 55035:2017)? Thanks, Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 chris.br...@startech.com<mailto:chris.br...@startech.com> [StarTech.com]<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.startech.com%2F=04%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Caeddf902055b484cd9f708d8efc46bac%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637522974194394166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=uw1y%2Fnkh0ZCftMWBdjR%2BgR704ZtT%2BJluwpRhex7WUTE%3D=0> [https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/banneren.png]<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.startech.com%2Fusb-c=04%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Caeddf902055b484cd9f708d8efc46bac%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637522974194394166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=eU79gQQ6XCzQ9WQ5KauP9i1I7cJei%2BbrHndz9H5X3Hg%3D=0> [Facebook]<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FStartechdotcom=04%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Caeddf902055b484cd9f708d8efc46bac%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637522974194404157%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=T70LT8QLcZmPdVxrrZyFhbYCGMfWjSxnmkCIBXAZkKg%3D=0> [Linkedin] <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fcompany%2Fstartech-com=04%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Caeddf902055b484cd9f708d8efc46bac%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637522974194404157%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=hLGKhi3Gzwe4QUmrovLbwJtHbRoAAC%2BdxC8r20eAQTw%3D=0> [Twitter] <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FSTARTECHdotCOM=04%7C01%7CChris.Brown%40startech.com%7Caeddf902055b484cd9f708d8efc46bac%7C0bf3d7afc3864a2b87b016e76addfb23%7C0%7C0%7C637522974194414155%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=uuoRv8SPTyQy0LuxizMPs8iILGsEheoRpzfOs24fgCM%3D=0> [Contact us] <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c
[PSES] Withdrawal of EN 55024:2010
FORWARD: In an Implementing Decision (EU) 2021/455 issued in mid-March, the Commission moved to replace the 2010 edition of EN 55024, Electromagnetic compatibility - Product family standard for audio, video, audio-visual and entertainment lighting control apparatus for professional use - Part 2: Immunity, with EN 55035: 2017, Electromagnetic compatibility of multimedia equipment - Immunity requirements. The date of withdrawal for EN 55024:2010 is mid-September 2022. QUESTION: Will this withdrawal be similar to the withdrawal of EN 60950-1, where models compliant with EN 60950-1 had to be assessed to EN 62368-1 in-order-to remain compliant? Or, will the change to EN 55035:2017 allow existing models to be "grandfathered" (i.e., models assessed to EN 55024:2010 not required to be assessed to the new harmonized standard EN 55035:2017)? Thanks, Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 chris.br...@startech.com<mailto:chris.br...@startech.com> [StarTech.com]<https://www.startech.com> [https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/banneren.png] [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/Startechdotcom> [Linkedin] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/startech-com> [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/STARTECHdotCOM> [Contact us] <https://www.startech.com/ContactUs> This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] Japanese safety lab
Peter, UL also offers services for Japan. Chris Chris Brown Team Lead, Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 chris.br...@startech.com<mailto:chris.br...@startech.com> [StarTech.com]<https://www.startech.com> [https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/banneren.png] [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/Startechdotcom> [Linkedin] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/startech-com> [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/STARTECHdotCOM> [Contact us] <https://www.startech.com/ContactUs> This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. From: 06cee064502d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org <06cee064502d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 5:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Japanese safety lab Friends, Are there any other government agency that can do safety tests beside JET in Japan? I have been dealing with JET directly and it has been a nightmare due to their lack of knowledge of ITE standard and wanted to see if there are any other labs that I can use rather than JET. Thanks Peter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
[PSES] EMC Testing Required for Cables with E-Markers?
Hello colleagues! Do (otherwise) passive cables with e-markers require EMC/EMI testing for North America and Europe? Example: USB-C cable with power delivery I don't see a specific exemption for them in the FCC regulation; however, the function of e-markers is not necessarily taken into account. Thanks, Chris Chris Brown Team Lead, Compliance t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 chris.br...@startech.com<mailto:chris.br...@startech.com> [StarTech.com]<https://www.startech.com> [https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/esignatures/banneren.png] [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/Startechdotcom> [Linkedin] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/startech-com> [Twitter] <https://twitter.com/STARTECHdotCOM> [Contact us] <https://www.startech.com/ContactUs> This email from StarTech.com, including any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the intended recipient(s) only and the sender does not waive any related legal rights or privilege. Any use or disclosure of the information by an unintended recipient is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received an email message in error, please delete the entire message, including attachments if any, and inform us by return email. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
