Recall: Do not dial 9, 0, #, then hang up when requested.
Spadaccini, Fabian would like to recall the message, Do not dial 9, 0, #, then hang up when requested..
RE: Do not dial 9, 0, #, then hang up when requested.
http://www.att.com/features/0398/90pound.html This link confirms Jacob's suspicions! Regards, Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments-Waters LLC (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com www.tainst.com -Original Message- From: Jacob Schanker [mailto:j.schan...@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:48 PM To: david_l_tarnow...@email.whirlpool.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Do not dial 9, 0, #, then hang up when requested. All: This sounds like another UL. That's UL as in Urban Legend. Just picture GTE telling someone that they should tell EVERYONE they know. NOT going to happen. Before we flood emc-pstc and the Internet with this urgent warning - think about it first. Regards, Jack Jacob Z. Schanker, P.E. 65 Crandon Way Rochester, NY 14618 Phone: 716 442 3909 Fax: 716 442 2182 j.schan...@ieee.org - Original Message - From: david_l_tarnow...@email.whirlpool.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Do not dial 9, 0, #, then hang up when requested. __ Forward Header __ Subject: Do not dial 9, 0, #, then hang up when requested. Author: cfil...@sears.com at INTERNET Date:3/19/2001 7:44 AM PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING WARNING FROM IRV LEVINSON: I received a telephone call last evening from an individual identifying himself as an 'ATT Service Technician' who was conducting a test on telephone lines. He stated that to complete the test I should touch nine(9), zero (0), pound (#), and then hang up. Luckily, I was suspicious and refused. Upon contacting the telephone company, I was informed that by pushing 90#, you give the requesting individual full access to your telephone line, which enables them to place long distance calls billed to your home phone number. I was further informed that this scam has been originating from many local jails/prisons. I have also verified this information with UCB Telecom, Pacific Bell, MCI, Bell Atlantic and GTE. Please beware. DO NOT press 9 0 # for ANYONE. The GTE Security Department requested that I share this information with EVERYONE I KNOW. PLEASE pass this on to everyone YOU know. If you have mailing lists and/or newsletters from organizations you are connected with, I encourage you to pass on this information to them, too. After checking with Verizon, they said it was true so do not dial nine (9), zero (0), pound (#) and hang up for anyone! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall,
RE: Singapore
Try this link to help get started. http://www.psb.gov.sg/technical/testing/electrical_electronic.html Regards, Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments-Waters LLC (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com www.tainst.com -Original Message- From: Bill Somerfield [mailto:bi...@eliz.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:32 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Singapore Hello Group, Could anyone point me in the right dirrection for info on EMC and Safety Conpliance for Singapore? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you, Bill Somerfield QA/Compliance Manager Elizabeth-Hata International North Huntingdon, PA USA 412-829-7700 fax 412-829-7330 bi...@eliz.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Application of CE Mark
Hello group! Since some test houses supply DoCs with the CE marking on them, it made me wonder why they would recommend a marking in at least two places (device and DoC) if it were forbidden. I referenced the EMCD Application Guidelines. While I realize this is not the last word on the law, it seems clear to me that markings on boxes are not only appropriate, but encouraged. Section 12 is included in its entirety for your edification. 12 APPARATUS MARKING All apparatus covered by the Directive in accordance with the protection requirements and accompanied by one of the means of certification provided for in Article 10 must bear the CE marking. The CE marking is affixed by the manufacturer or his authorised representative established within the EEA to the apparatus or, if this is not possible, to the packaging, instructions for use or guarantee certificate, in that order of priority . Where the apparatus is covered by other Directives providing for the CE marking, application of the CE marking also indicates that the apparatus conforms to the provisions of the other Directives applicable to it. The CE marking is to be affixed visibly, legibly and indelibly. It is prohibited to affix any marks or inscriptions that are likely to mislead third parties as to the verbal or pictorial significance of the CE conformity marking. It would be sensible, but it is not mandatory, to more readily facilitate free movement to affix the CE marking to more than one place, for example, marking the outer packaging, as well as the apparatus inside can be ascertained without opening the package. There is nothing in the Directive to prevent this. Regards, Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments-Waters LLC (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com www.tainst.com -Original Message- From: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... [mailto:cet...@cetest.nl] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:22 AM To: wo...@sensormatic.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Application of CE Mark Hello Richard, Cyril and group, Simply: there is no directive allowing the use of ce to boxes. The statement in the EMC-directive is: The manufacturer or his authorized representative established within the Community shall also affix the EC conformity mark to the apparatus or else to the packaging, instructions for use or guarantee certificate. It's written or else which implies that if the product is marked, the packaging et al may not. or else if the box is marked , the product may not ! Further more is says: THE packaging only, not A packaging, which limits the application to a specific box, contains the apparatus. In practice, wherever no misunderstanding is possible, ce marking all kind of packaging is tolerated, and can be helpful in customs procedures. I agree that this is a trivial thing, but what would the judge say ?? What would you read if it said: One of these guys will be president of the USA : Bush or else Al Gore ? Would you elect both for president ? (you almost did , isn't it? :)) Regards, Gert Gremmen, (Ing) ce-test, qualified testing === Web presence http://www.cetest.nl CE-shop http://www.cetest.nl/ce_shop.htm /-/ Compliance testing is our core business /-/ === -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of wo...@sensormatic.com Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:25 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Application of CE Mark It is news to me that placing the CE marking on packaging is forbidden if the directive does not specify the marking? Where did you find this information? Richard Woods -- From: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... [SMTP:cet...@cetest.nl] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:21 AM To: Praveen Rao; 'Nick Williams'; binno...@ems-t.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Application of CE Mark Hi Praveen, I would even attenuate that last statement. Officially the application of ce on boxes is forbidden so affixing ce would be just an invitation to search into the boxes :)) I think it should make just no difference to customs if you do or do not affix the sign, but as they are human too. Regards, Gert Gremmen, (Ing) ce-test, qualified testing --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Downloadable CE marks
Try here: http://www.conformance.co.uk/CE_MARKING/CELOGO/ce_logo.html http://www.conformance.co.uk/CE_MARKING/CELOGO/ce_logo.html There is a varity of formats available, but as Richard has suggested, make sure they are scaled properly. Regards, Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments-Waters LLC (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com www.tainst.com -Original Message- From: Mike Stone [mailto:mst...@lsr.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:09 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Downloadable CE marks Good Morning- Is anyone aware of a web site that has downloadable CE marks? Thanks in advance. Regards, Michael Stone L.S. Compliance W66 N220 Commerce Court Cedarburg, Wi 53012 V 262-375-4400 F 262-375-4248
RE: EMC/EMI Training
As a newcomer in the world of EMC, I have found EMI Troubleshooting Techniques (ISBN 0-07-134418-7) by Michel Mardiguian to be very good. It is published by McGraw-Hill, and is available on their website at www.books.mcgraw-hill.com. Regards, Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments-Waters LLC (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com www.tainst.com -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:06 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EMC/EMI Training These are great books for EMC design. Can the group recommend a similar list of books for troubleshooting EMC designs? Richard Woods -- From: Ron Pickard [SMTP:rpick...@hypercom.com] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:00 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EMC/EMI Training Hello to all, IMO, three of the most informative books from a practical intro approach into the world of EMC are (not in any particular order): 1. Henry W. Ott, Noise Reduction Techniques in Electronic Systems, John Wiley and Sons, ISBN 0-471-85068-3, 2. Mark Montrose, EMC and the Printed Circuit Board - Design, Theory and Layout Made Simple, IEEE Press, ISBN 0-7803-4703-X, and 3. Michel Mardiguian, Controlling Radiated Emissions by Design, Van Nostrand Reinhold, ISBN 0-442-00949-6. As for instruction, try Kimmel Gerke's (www.emiguru.com) EMI Made Simple seminars. The material covered is complete, can be customized and can be presented in-house. Note: To all in the group. This message was, and should not be contrued as, an advertisement for any of the entities identified above. I am just relaying my own opinion. I hope this helps. Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com - Original Message - From: Keith Zell To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:25 AM Subject: EMC/EMI Training What training classes and/or books would you recommend for the best practical EMI/EMC training from a systems approach? I am particularly interested in grounding/shielding issues and fixes. Any help would be appreciated. B. Keith Zell Electrical Design Engineer PMI Food Equipment Group Troy, OH 45374 (937) 332-3067 (ph) (937) 332-3007 (fax) zell...@pmifeg.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
product cert question
Hello, Listmembers. We have a potential supplier of an OEM equipment that is not NRTL listed. They suggested we have it listed (i. e. pay for the testing ourselves) as part of our system. I am not aware of any case histories of this nature. Has anyone had this experience? Can an NRTL issue a listing for one company (buyer of product), yet audit another (the manufacturer)? I am skeptical of this suggestion. Regards, Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments-Waters LLC (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com www.tainst.com
RE: ITE Requirements for Australia
Hi Peter. Check this link. You should be able to find answers to all your questions there. http://www.austel.gov.au/standards/index.htm Regards, Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments, Inc. (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com www.tainst.com -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 9:15 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: ITE Requirements for Australia Dear All, 1. For ITE (without a connection to a telecommunication network), what are the applicable standards and requirements? I assume AS3260 (safety) and AS3548 (emc) and the manufacturer applies the C-Tick Mark (ie for EMC Compliance). 2. Is TS001 required or is this standard only used when an equipment is connected to the telecom network. 3. What is the new RTM Mark for safety and emc? Does this replace the C-Tick? Where can I download this mark? 4. What is a telecommunication network definition? Is X.25 a telecom network? Is E1/T1 a telecom network? Where can I get the various interfaces which are controlled? 5. Does the manufacturer make the declaration of compliance and applies the mark or does the importer do it? I assume the manufacturer applies the mark and the importer makes up the declaration. 6. When is the A-Tick Crossed Over Mark used? Thanks, Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: AS/NZS 4251.1.1.1999
Hi everyone. Don't know that my last mail went out, so I'm trying again. Below is the link to the Handbook of which you speak. The new book (dec98) is shorter than the original (apr97), as the original had more appendices and details of the phase-in period. Also, the new book makes no reference to AS/NZS 4252, as it is the immunity standard. There are no mandatory requirements for immunity in Australia, so it was omitted. Regarding test labs; basically, any lab accredited to test to the relevant standard is acceptable. In fact, you could test yourself, depending on the level of compliance required, so long as your report and documentation are adequate. The accredited lab, to the ACA, presents a high confidence/low risk approach. Lastly, if you want to buy the standard, or see a review of it, go to Standards Australia using the second link. Hope this helps, if it gets through! http://www.austel.gov.au/standards/emcbook/index.htm http://www.standards.com.au/Catalogue/Script/Details.asp?DocN=stds23312 Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments, Inc. (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com -Original Message- From: Maxwell, Chris [mailto:chr...@gnlp.com] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:07 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: RE: AS/NZS 4251.1.1.1999 Ok, 1. I could not find a current link to The SMA Handbook for Suppliers that I originally downloaded in 1996. I explained in an earlier email that, since that time, administration of the Australian Framework for EMC switched over from the Australian Spectrum Management Agency (SMA) to the Australian Communications Authority (ACA). 2. The document that Laura found is what I consider to be the ACA's newer equivalent (see her message below for how to access this document) to the handbook.According to that document, AS/NZS 4252.1 is equivalent to EN 50082-1.The new handbook is very similar to the one. I have updated my files in document control with the new version. 3. I noticed a couple major difference between the new document and the old. The new document is 19 pages, where the old was 40+ It appears that the appendices are different. The old listed equivalent European standards in Appendix B. the new lists them in Appendix A. Both documents list the Australian NATA (National Association of Testing Authorities) as the organization having ultimate authority to accredit laboratories with respect to the Framework for EMC. However, the old handbook had a list of other national authorities which had Memoranda of Understanding (MOU) with the NATA. For the United States, NVLAP (National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program) and A2LA (American Association of Laboratory Accreditation) were listed. The newer document has no such list. It appears that we now have to download a few documents from the ACA site in order to get the equivalent information that was once all included in the SMA's Handbook for Suppliers. That's all for now. Chris Maxwell, Design Engineer GN Nettest Optical Division 6 Rhoads Drive, Building 4 Utica, NY 13502 PH: 315-797-4449 FAX: 315-797-8024 EMAIL: chr...@gnlp.com -Original Message- From: Laura Leyba-Newton [SMTP:lnew...@hach.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 6:01 PM To: 'Maxwell, Chris'; 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject: RE: AS/NZS 4251.1.1.1999 I found what I am quit certain is the handbook Chris was talking about. Go to the www.sma.gov.au http://www.sma.gov.au site, once you are in do a search for handbook for suppliers. There will be over 200 results, go down and click on ACA: Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC). An index will appear, click on Index to Relevant Documentation. Under the information index click on HTML, this will put you in the Electromagnetic Compatibility Framework. Appendix A contained the information cross referencing the Australian standards to the European Standards. Chris, if you would could you please look at this document and let us know if this is indeed the handbook you were talking about. Thank you, Laura Newton EMC Engineer Hach Company -Original Message- From: Maxwell, Chris [mailto:chr...@gnlp.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 3:01 PM To: 'EMC-PSTC Internet Forum' Subject:FW: AS/NZS 4251.1.1.1999 Guys, Kazimier replied to me saying that he had trouble finding the handbook. (see his attached email) Apparantly, I sent Kazimier (and possibly others) on a wild goose chase. My humble apologies (bow). The document that I downloaded was called The Australian Spectrum Management Agency Handbook for Suppliers. or simply the Handbook for Suppliers Once upon a time, the Australian Spectrum Management Agency (SMA) managed the
RE: AS/NZS 4251.1.1.1999
Hi Laura. AS/NZS 4251.1 is copied from EN50081.1, the generic emissions standard for res., comm. and lite inds. The first link provides info on Australian EMC requirements (select EMC Arrangements, and find the link to the information booklet). The second link is to Standards Australia. Select Customer Service and search the standard number for an overview and ability to purchase on-line. Hope this helps. Good luck! http://www.austel.gov.au/standards/index.htm http://www.standards.com.au/ Fabian Spadaccini TA Instruments, Inc. (p) 302-427-4189 (f) 302-427-4081 fspadacc...@tainst.com -Original Message- From: Laura Leyba-Newton [mailto:lnew...@hach.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:20 AM To: EMC-PSTC Subject: AS/NZS 4251.1.1.1999 Hello Everyone, Could some one please direct me in a direction of a web site where I could locate information on AS/NZS 4251.1.1.1999. What I am looking for is a comparison to the European directory. Thank you in advance, Laura Newton --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
