Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
On our DoCs we have always listed our Sales and Service Office in the EU for our European Contact. The Machinery Directive required that we include the NAME of a Person in the EU, which we have been doing for several years now. HOWEVER, this person just recently quit our company. Now What? What good is his name on all our previous DoCs if he no longer works for our company? Does he personally still hold some responsibility for products and a company he no longer works for? And, what is our obligation to update our DoCs with a new person's name on them? It could take weeks or months to work the new DoCs into manuals, Bill of Materials, go through the approval cycle, etc.. The same would hold true if the AR or Importer's name was on the product. You may have thousands of products labeled and warehoused ready to be shipped to the EU when the person quits. Nightmare. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:39 PM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Future of marking authorized representative on machines? The BIS view at the last Machinery Directive Notified Bodies meeting I went to (in May) was that there were unlikely to be any revisions to the Machinery Directive for at least five years. Nick. On 15 Jul 2013, at 23:25, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.commailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com wrote: In the Machinery Directive 1. If a manufacturer has designated an Authorized Representative, the AR name must be marked on the machine (ref Annex I, 1.7.3 1st indent). 2. A person must be identified in the Declaration of Conformity who is established in the EU and is authorized to compile the technical file (ref Annex II (1)(A)(2)) Both these criteria are absent from the new legislative framework (NLF) model, and the recent directives implementing the NLF model, namely RoHS2, LVD3 (still in works), EMCD3 (still in works). The NLF model requires the importer of equipment to indicate their name, registered trade name or registered trade mark and the address at which they can be contacted on the apparatus/equipment or, where that is not possible, on its packaging or in a document accompanying the apparatus/equipment. Does anyone know if the MD anomalies marking the AR on the machine and indicating in the DoC the person authorized to compile the technical file will be retired soon through some sort of NLF revision of the Machinery Directive? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com Nick Williams Director Direct line: +44 1298 873811 Mobile: +44 7702 995135 email: nick.willi...@conformance.co.ukmailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk - Conformance Ltd - Product safety, approvals and CE-marking consultants The Old Methodist Chapel, Great Hucklow, Buxton, SK17 8RG England Tel. +44 1298 873800, Fax. +44 1298 873801, www.conformance.co.ukhttp://www.conformance.co.uk Registered in England, Company No. 3478646 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
Brian, The MD guide clarifies that both the AR and the person authorized to compile the technical file (and they can be different people) can both be a natural or legal person. In other words the both can either be a named individual or a company. Companies tend to last longer than individuals in a particular position, so it seems better to indicate a company as AR. A DoC that references a name (whether individual or company) that is no longer correct is, I think, well..., no longer correct. Regards, Lauren From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:37 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines? On our DoCs we have always listed our Sales and Service Office in the EU for our European Contact. The Machinery Directive required that we include the NAME of a Person in the EU, which we have been doing for several years now. HOWEVER, this person just recently quit our company. Now What? What good is his name on all our previous DoCs if he no longer works for our company? Does he personally still hold some responsibility for products and a company he no longer works for? And, what is our obligation to update our DoCs with a new person's name on them? It could take weeks or months to work the new DoCs into manuals, Bill of Materials, go through the approval cycle, etc.. The same would hold true if the AR or Importer's name was on the product. You may have thousands of products labeled and warehoused ready to be shipped to the EU when the person quits. Nightmare. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:39 PM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Future of marking authorized representative on machines? The BIS view at the last Machinery Directive Notified Bodies meeting I went to (in May) was that there were unlikely to be any revisions to the Machinery Directive for at least five years. Nick. On 15 Jul 2013, at 23:25, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.commailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com wrote: In the Machinery Directive 1. If a manufacturer has designated an Authorized Representative, the AR name must be marked on the machine (ref Annex I, 1.7.3 1st indent). 2. A person must be identified in the Declaration of Conformity who is established in the EU and is authorized to compile the technical file (ref Annex II (1)(A)(2)) Both these criteria are absent from the new legislative framework (NLF) model, and the recent directives implementing the NLF model, namely RoHS2, LVD3 (still in works), EMCD3 (still in works). The NLF model requires the importer of equipment to indicate their name, registered trade name or registered trade mark and the address at which they can be contacted on the apparatus/equipment or, where that is not possible, on its packaging or in a document accompanying the apparatus/equipment. Does anyone know if the MD anomalies marking the AR on the machine and indicating in the DoC the person authorized to compile the technical file will be retired soon through some sort of NLF revision of the Machinery Directive? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com Nick Williams Director Direct line: +44 1298 873811 Mobile: +44 7702 995135 email: nick.willi...@conformance.co.ukmailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk - Conformance Ltd - Product safety, approvals and CE-marking consultants The Old Methodist Chapel, Great Hucklow, Buxton, SK17 8RG England Tel. +44 1298 873800, Fax. +44 1298 873801, www.conformance.co.ukhttp://www.conformance.co.uk Registered in England, Company No. 3478646 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
In message 617eb8c8634c9149aa66c853d7b8ac5322b1b...@by2prd0310mb389.namprd03.prod.o utlook.com, dated Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: The MD guide clarifies that both the AR and the person authorized to compile the technical file (and they can be different people) can both be a ?natural or legal person?. In other words the both can either be a named individual or a company. Companies tend to last longer than individuals in a particular position, so it seems better to indicate a company as AR. Maybe, but companies come, go and change their names. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0265CE8E@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: On our DoCs we have always listed our Sales and Service Office in the EU for our European Contact. The Machinery Directive required that we include the NAME of a Person in the EU, which we have been doing for several years now. HOWEVER, this person just recently quit our company. Now What? What indeed. What good is his name on all our previous DoCs if he no longer works for our company? Zilch. Does he personally still hold some responsibility for products and a company he no longer works for? Extremely unlikely, unless he was personally involved in a deception. The Directive is famous for lack of practical thought during its compilation. Do what you think best, and document it so it could be produced in court if necessary. You can include a text that explains the impracticality. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
The only entity that goes on and on and on is bureaucracy. They are eternal and ever vigilant, but over time they get cataracts and can no longer see what they are looking at. Gary -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:44 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines? In message 617eb8c8634c9149aa66c853d7b8ac5322b1b...@by2prd0310mb389.namprd03.prod.o utlook.com, dated Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: The MD guide clarifies that both the AR and the person authorized to compile the technical file (and they can be different people) can both be a ?natural or legal person?. In other words the both can either be a named individual or a company. Companies tend to last longer than individuals in a particular position, so it seems better to indicate a company as AR. Maybe, but companies come, go and change their names. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
My brain just exploded. Blood and gray matter is oozing down my office walls. I'm not a lawyer, English major or Business major; just a lowly EMC/Safety Engineer. I had no idea the term Legal Person was not an actual human being. In a 63 page directive and 400 page guide, why use the word person if you don't mean an actual person? Here's an idea; just say what you mean and you won't need 400 pages to explain it. Sorry for my rant. The Embarrassed Brian From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:28 AM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Future of marking authorized representative on machines? Brian, The MD guide clarifies that both the AR and the person authorized to compile the technical file (and they can be different people) can both be a natural or legal person. In other words the both can either be a named individual or a company. Companies tend to last longer than individuals in a particular position, so it seems better to indicate a company as AR. A DoC that references a name (whether individual or company) that is no longer correct is, I think, well..., no longer correct. Regards, Lauren From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:37 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines? On our DoCs we have always listed our Sales and Service Office in the EU for our European Contact. The Machinery Directive required that we include the NAME of a Person in the EU, which we have been doing for several years now. HOWEVER, this person just recently quit our company. Now What? What good is his name on all our previous DoCs if he no longer works for our company? Does he personally still hold some responsibility for products and a company he no longer works for? And, what is our obligation to update our DoCs with a new person's name on them? It could take weeks or months to work the new DoCs into manuals, Bill of Materials, go through the approval cycle, etc.. The same would hold true if the AR or Importer's name was on the product. You may have thousands of products labeled and warehoused ready to be shipped to the EU when the person quits. Nightmare. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:39 PM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Future of marking authorized representative on machines? The BIS view at the last Machinery Directive Notified Bodies meeting I went to (in May) was that there were unlikely to be any revisions to the Machinery Directive for at least five years. Nick. On 15 Jul 2013, at 23:25, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.commailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com wrote: In the Machinery Directive 1. If a manufacturer has designated an Authorized Representative, the AR name must be marked on the machine (ref Annex I, 1.7.3 1st indent). 2. A person must be identified in the Declaration of Conformity who is established in the EU and is authorized to compile the technical file (ref Annex II (1)(A)(2)) Both these criteria are absent from the new legislative framework (NLF) model, and the recent directives implementing the NLF model, namely RoHS2, LVD3 (still in works), EMCD3 (still in works). The NLF model requires the importer of equipment to indicate their name, registered trade name or registered trade mark and the address at which they can be contacted on the apparatus/equipment or, where that is not possible, on its packaging or in a document accompanying the apparatus/equipment. Does anyone know if the MD anomalies marking the AR on the machine and indicating in the DoC the person authorized to compile the technical file will be retired soon through some sort of NLF revision of the Machinery Directive? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0265CF70@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: I?m not a lawyer, English major or Business major; just a lowly EMC/Safety Engineer. I had no idea the term ?Legal Person? was not an actual human being. In a 63 page directive and 400 page guide, why use the word ?person? if you don?t mean an actual person? Here?s an idea; just say what you mean and you won?t need 400 pages to explain it. I have to tell you that I had to explain 'admittance' to a lawyer. Similar cranial disruption ensued, because the idea of admitting anything made him extremely uneasy. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
In the Machinery Directive 1. If a manufacturer has designated an Authorized Representative, the AR name must be marked on the machine (ref Annex I, 1.7.3 1st indent). 2. A person must be identified in the Declaration of Conformity who is established in the EU and is authorized to compile the technical file (ref Annex II (1)(A)(2)) Both these criteria are absent from the new legislative framework (NLF) model, and the recent directives implementing the NLF model, namely RoHS2, LVD3 (still in works), EMCD3 (still in works). The NLF model requires the importer of equipment to indicate their name, registered trade name or registered trade mark and the address at which they can be contacted on the apparatus/equipment or, where that is not possible, on its packaging or in a document accompanying the apparatus/equipment. Does anyone know if the MD anomalies marking the AR on the machine and indicating in the DoC the person authorized to compile the technical file will be retired soon through some sort of NLF revision of the Machinery Directive? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
The BIS view at the last Machinery Directive Notified Bodies meeting I went to (in May) was that there were unlikely to be any revisions to the Machinery Directive for at least five years. Nick. On 15 Jul 2013, at 23:25, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com wrote: In the Machinery Directive…. 1. If a manufacturer has designated an Authorized Representative, the AR name must be marked on the machine (ref Annex I, 1.7.3 1st indent). 2. A person must be identified in the Declaration of Conformity who is established in the EU and is authorized to compile the technical file (ref Annex II (1)(A)(2)) Both these criteria are absent from the new legislative framework (NLF) model, and the recent directives implementing the NLF model, namely RoHS2, LVD3 (still in works), EMCD3 (still in works). The NLF model requires the importer of equipment to “indicate their name, registered trade name or registered trade mark and the address at which they can be contacted on the apparatus/equipment or, where that is not possible, on its packaging or in a document accompanying the apparatus/equipment.” Does anyone know if the MD anomalies marking the AR on the machine and indicating in the DoC the person authorized to compile the technical file will be retired soon through some sort of NLF revision of the Machinery Directive? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com Nick Williams Director Direct line: +44 1298 873811 Mobile: +44 7702 995135 email: nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk - Conformance Ltd - Product safety, approvals and CE-marking consultants The Old Methodist Chapel, Great Hucklow, Buxton, SK17 8RG England Tel. +44 1298 873800, Fax. +44 1298 873801, www.conformance.co.uk Registered in England, Company No. 3478646 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?
In message 617eb8c8634c9149aa66c853d7b8ac5322b1a...@by2prd0310mb389.namprd03.prod.o utlook.com, dated Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: Does anyone know if the MD anomalies marking the AR on the machine and indicating in the DoC the person authorized to compile the technical file will be retired soon through some sort of NLF revision of the Machinery Directive? It seems very likely, since the NLF is designed to improve market surveillance. Consider that, at present, the AR name may be put on a machine imported irregularly by another company that remains anonymous. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
