Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-15 Thread Pawson, James
Hello all,

I've been interested to see the range of comments on this question. Thank you 
all for taking the time to help. I'm going to investigate further!

Regards,
James

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From: Pawson, James
Sent: 10 August 2016 17:01
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?


Hello fellow engineers,

With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC qualification. 
Specifically, I'm considering one (or possibly both) of these accreditations.

-   iNARTE EMC Design Engineer Certification
-   iNARTE Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC/EMI) Certification

I'm looking for your advice and experience of

-   Gaining these qualifications
-   Views of the engineering community on the worth of these qualifications
-   Suggestions as to which one of these would be most beneficial for a 
career in EMC either working as a company employee or as a 
contractor/consultant in EMC testing and design

I appreciate these are open questions and I would appreciate any and all 
opinions. If you feel more comfortable replying off list then please do.

Thanks and regards,
James Pawson


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Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-12 Thread Ken Javor
Flip side of that is back when I had an employer those certs kept him off my
back getting other certs or a Masters, where he was on everyone else to get
some advanced degree.  The certs are much less expensive in time and $$$
than going back to school.  And just the aggravation of someone constantly
riding you.

As a consultant, I think the certs don’t hurt when people ask for a resume.

Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261



From: dward <dw...@pctestlab.com>
Reply-To: dward <dw...@pctestlab.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:51:56 -0700
To: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

Had several of them; dropped them; don’t need them; don’t want them; never
helped me get work, never stopped me from getting work.
So, while the certs look pretty, they have little meaning and unless a
company pays for them, they simply are not worth the expense.  But that is
just my view.
 

​
Dennis Ward
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From: Ken Wyatt [mailto:k...@emc-seminars.com]
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Subject: Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?
 
Hi James,

 

May I offer an alternative viewpoint to my esteemed colleagues (I guess
there’s one in every crowd)? I believe the answer to gaining iNARTE
certification is “it depends”, like so many other questions in EMC.

 

When NAVLAP initially proposed and promoted the idea of a NARTE
certification for EMC engineers and technicians, the only method for gaining
a "certification” was to provide 10 Q to help develop a question pool. At
that time, I thought, “well, that’s not going to be too meaningful to anyone
who really understands how the initial batch of 'certified' engineers
obtained their badges”, and while I thought about contributing, never did.
Through the years, though, I do believe those going through the program
certainly come away with a meaningful certification they can use to help
self-promote themselves.

 

Back to my answer of “it depends”. If you’re an unknown quantity approaching
a potential client, then yes, I believe iNARTE certification would be at
least something you could dangle in front of them - even though they
probably have never heard of it.

 

On the other hand, if you’re a “known quantity”, that is, have an
established internet presence, and have published many articles and books on
the subject, then I believe that fact would be much more meaningful to a
potential client. You can now approach them with, “in fact I’ve written a
book on the subject”, and that alone will hold much more weight than any
(usually unknown to them) certification.

 

Cheers, Ken


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> 
> On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Pawson, James <james.paw...@echostar.com> wrote:
>  
> 
> Hello fellow engineers,
> 
>  
> 
> With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC
> qualification. Specifically, I’m considering one (or possibly both) of these
> accreditations.
> 
>  
> · iNARTE EMC Design Engineer Certification
> · iNARTE Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC/EMI) Certification
> 
>  
> 
> I’m looking for your advice and experience of
> 
>  
> · Gaining these qualifications
> · Views of the engineering community on the worth of these
> qualifications
> · Suggestions as to which one of these would be most beneficial for a
> career in EMC either working as a company employee or as a
> contractor/consultant in EMC testing and design
> 
>  
> 
> I appreciate these are open questions a

Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-12 Thread dward
Had several of them; dropped them; don’t need them; don’t want them; never 
helped me get work, never stopped me from getting work.

So, while the certs look pretty, they have little meaning and unless a company 
pays for them, they simply are not worth the expense.  But that is just my view.

 

​

Dennis Ward

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From: Ken Wyatt [mailto:k...@emc-seminars.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:02 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

 

Hi James,

 

May I offer an alternative viewpoint to my esteemed colleagues (I guess there’s 
one in every crowd)? I believe the answer to gaining iNARTE certification is 
“it depends”, like so many other questions in EMC.

 

When NAVLAP initially proposed and promoted the idea of a NARTE certification 
for EMC engineers and technicians, the only method for gaining a 
"certification” was to provide 10 Q to help develop a question pool. At that 
time, I thought, “well, that’s not going to be too meaningful to anyone who 
really understands how the initial batch of 'certified' engineers obtained 
their badges”, and while I thought about contributing, never did. Through the 
years, though, I do believe those going through the program certainly come away 
with a meaningful certification they can use to help self-promote themselves.

 

Back to my answer of “it depends”. If you’re an unknown quantity approaching a 
potential client, then yes, I believe iNARTE certification would be at least 
something you could dangle in front of them - even though they probably have 
never heard of it.

 

On the other hand, if you’re a “known quantity”, that is, have an established 
internet presence, and have published many articles and books on the subject, 
then I believe that fact would be much more meaningful to a potential client. 
You can now approach them with, “in fact I’ve written a book on the subject”, 
and that alone will hold much more weight than any (usually unknown to them) 
certification.

 

Cheers, Ken


___

 

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related to EMC or EMI troubleshooting - at no obligation. I'm always happy to 
help!


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Woodland Park, CO 80863


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On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Pawson, James <james.paw...@echostar.com 
<mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com> > wrote:

 

Hello fellow engineers,

 

With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC qualification. 
Specifically, I’m considering one (or possibly both) of these accreditations.

 

* iNARTE EMC Design Engineer Certification

* iNARTE Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC/EMI) Certification

 

I’m looking for your advice and experience of

 

* Gaining these qualifications

* Views of the engineering community on the worth of these 
qualifications

* Suggestions as to which one of these would be most beneficial for a 
career in EMC either working as a company employee or as a 
contractor/consultant in EMC testing and design

 

I appreciate these are open questions and I would appreciate any and all 
opinions. If you feel more comfortable replying off list then please do.

 

Thanks and regards,

James Pawson

 

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Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-12 Thread Grasso, Charles
Is there an online version of the test [Similar to Labview?]
If so – sign me up..!!

Best Regards
Charles Grasso
Compliance Engineer
Echostar Communications
(w) 303-706-5467
(c) 303-204-2974
(t) 3032042...@vtext.com<mailto:3032042...@vtext.com>
(e) charles.gra...@echostar.com<mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com>
(e2) chasgra...@gmail.com<mailto:chasgra...@gmail.com>

From: Michael Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com]
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 9:53 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

Hi James,

Ed Price had some very good comments below and I concur completely that the 
credential will bolster your image.

iNARTE has been a primary personal certification resource for EMC, ESD, Telecom 
and Product Safety professionals for over 25 years. I’ve held an EMC 
Certificate during that time and have used it on various occasions for securing 
work, for marketing and for introductions in a global community. It has a lot 
of weight in North America and its growing brand influence is strong in Japan 
(as KC Chan points out) and in Korea.

I was previously on the Board of iNARTE (and, during its transition—a long 
story—on the RABQSA/Exemplar Global board) and stay in touch with the program 
management individuals of EG (cc’d here).

iNARTE is reinvigorating its program with a dedicated effort from top experts 
in from the IEEE EMC Society to update its exams to address the 
state-of-the-art in EMC. They are also working diligently to make improvements 
in its processes to serve its growing global presence.

I’m biased, but recommend that you do sit for the exams, get the certification 
and wear it proudly.

Kind regards,
Mike


Michael Violette, P.E.
iNARTE EMC Certified Engineer
Washington Laboratories and American Certification Body
mi...@wll.com<mailto:mi...@wll.com>
+1 240-401-1388



On Aug 12, 2016, at 2:32 AM, Ed Price <edpr...@cox.net<mailto:edpr...@cox.net>> 
wrote:

Jim:

You live in a World where accreditations are linked to market success. People 
are reassured by a flock of compliance markings on the back of a widget, even 
if those people are so dense as to strongly believe CE is the marking for 
“China Export.”

Since the ultimate “product” you want to dominate its market is yourself, it 
makes sense to know your customer and motivate him with a warm and fuzzy 
feeling about you. When you are flashing your BSEE in the competition of other 
BSEE’s, I wouldn’t hesitate to also make it known that I’m an iNARTE Certified 
such and such, and that I’m synergistic, lemon-flavored and play well with 
others.

You are constantly being evaluated by others (many who will never meet with or 
talk to you), and many of them will be mightily impressed that you have iNARTE 
credentials and can emboss your iNARTE seal on your weekly reports. So, why not 
make them happy, secure and proud to employ you?

And seriously, although I have not looked at iNARTE exam questions in a long 
time, I know that the exams are tough and I would respect anyone who earned 
those credentials. That’s not such a bad deal; respect from expert customers 
and awe from consumer-grade customers.

Regarding EMC accreditation itself, it began similar to a Roman Collegium and 
moved under the national aegis of NARTE. Perhaps this is the way of the World, 
but NARTE began expanding their accreditation business until EMC was just a 
small part of their empire. Then NARTE vastly improved their image (if not the 
ability of members to pronounce the acronym) by rebranding as an international 
organization, iNARTE. Soon iNARTE sold itself to an Australian accreditation 
group with the guaranteed unpronounceable acronym of RABQSA, and I began to 
feel like EMC accreditation was just a small brick in somebody else’s ziggurat. 
The latest development is that RABQSA has rebranded to Exemplar to avoid 
strange-name jokes. Still, regardless of the etymology, Exemplar does provide 
the only (that I know of) EMC-specific accreditation credentials World-wide. 
(Of course, there is another career path that makes use of EMC skills. This is 
the NSA directed TEMPEST world [let’s call it the Puzzle Palace’s regulatory 
compliance World], and there is an Accredited TEMPEST Engineer program [but I 
don’t think they want you using a neat paper embosser to advertise that]). Hmm, 
if you are the type of guy who worries about counting the levels of nested 
parentheses, you might be a TEMPEST kind of guy!

So sure, sit for the exams and once you pass, you can claim the annual dues as 
an employee business expense (same for your IEEE & EMC Society dues [I’m 
assuming USA tax structures, YMMV.]). And if you become a consultant, the 
credentials may help bolster your image as a professional in tax matters such 
as an Office-in-Home situation.

Ed Price
Ex-iNARTE Certified EMC This ☺
Ex-iNARTE Certified EMC That ☺
Chula Vista, CA USA


From: Pawson, James
Sent: Wednesda

Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-12 Thread Ken Wyatt
Hi James,

May I offer an alternative viewpoint to my esteemed colleagues (I guess there’s 
one in every crowd)? I believe the answer to gaining iNARTE certification is 
“it depends”, like so many other questions in EMC.

When NAVLAP initially proposed and promoted the idea of a NARTE certification 
for EMC engineers and technicians, the only method for gaining a 
"certification” was to provide 10 Q to help develop a question pool. At that 
time, I thought, “well, that’s not going to be too meaningful to anyone who 
really understands how the initial batch of 'certified' engineers obtained 
their badges”, and while I thought about contributing, never did. Through the 
years, though, I do believe those going through the program certainly come away 
with a meaningful certification they can use to help self-promote themselves.

Back to my answer of “it depends”. If you’re an unknown quantity approaching a 
potential client, then yes, I believe iNARTE certification would be at least 
something you could dangle in front of them - even though they probably have 
never heard of it.

On the other hand, if you’re a “known quantity”, that is, have an established 
internet presence, and have published many articles and books on the subject, 
then I believe that fact would be much more meaningful to a potential client. 
You can now approach them with, “in fact I’ve written a book on the subject”, 
and that alone will hold much more weight than any (usually unknown to them) 
certification.

Cheers, Ken

___

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Woodland Park, CO 80863

Phone: (719) 310-5418

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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Pawson, James  wrote:
> 
> Hello fellow engineers,
>  
> With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC 
> qualification. Specifically, I’m considering one (or possibly both) of these 
> accreditations.
>  
> iNARTE EMC Design Engineer Certification
> iNARTE Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC/EMI) Certification
>  
> I’m looking for your advice and experience of
>  
> Gaining these qualifications
> Views of the engineering community on the worth of these qualifications
> Suggestions as to which one of these would be most beneficial for a career in 
> EMC either working as a company employee or as a contractor/consultant in EMC 
> testing and design
>  
> I appreciate these are open questions and I would appreciate any and all 
> opinions. If you feel more comfortable replying off list then please do.
>  
> Thanks and regards,
> James Pawson
>  
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Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-12 Thread Michael Violette
Hi James,

Ed Price had some very good comments below and I concur completely that the 
credential will bolster your image.

iNARTE has been a primary personal certification resource for EMC, ESD, Telecom 
and Product Safety professionals for over 25 years. I’ve held an EMC 
Certificate during that time and have used it on various occasions for securing 
work, for marketing and for introductions in a global community. It has a lot 
of weight in North America and its growing brand influence is strong in Japan 
(as KC Chan points out) and in Korea.

I was previously on the Board of iNARTE (and, during its transition—a long 
story—on the RABQSA/Exemplar Global board) and stay in touch with the program 
management individuals of EG (cc’d here). 

iNARTE is reinvigorating its program with a dedicated effort from top experts 
in from the IEEE EMC Society to update its exams to address the 
state-of-the-art in EMC. They are also working diligently to make improvements 
in its processes to serve its growing global presence.

I’m biased, but recommend that you do sit for the exams, get the certification 
and wear it proudly.

Kind regards,
Mike


Michael Violette, P.E.
iNARTE EMC Certified Engineer
Washington Laboratories and American Certification Body
mi...@wll.com
+1 240-401-1388



> On Aug 12, 2016, at 2:32 AM, Ed Price <edpr...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Jim:
>  
> You live in a World where accreditations are linked to market success. People 
> are reassured by a flock of compliance markings on the back of a widget, even 
> if those people are so dense as to strongly believe CE is the marking for 
> “China Export.”
>  
> Since the ultimate “product” you want to dominate its market is yourself, it 
> makes sense to know your customer and motivate him with a warm and fuzzy 
> feeling about you. When you are flashing your BSEE in the competition of 
> other BSEE’s, I wouldn’t hesitate to also make it known that I’m an iNARTE 
> Certified such and such, and that I’m synergistic, lemon-flavored and play 
> well with others.
>  
> You are constantly being evaluated by others (many who will never meet with 
> or talk to you), and many of them will be mightily impressed that you have 
> iNARTE credentials and can emboss your iNARTE seal on your weekly reports. 
> So, why not make them happy, secure and proud to employ you?
>  
> And seriously, although I have not looked at iNARTE exam questions in a long 
> time, I know that the exams are tough and I would respect anyone who earned 
> those credentials. That’s not such a bad deal; respect from expert customers 
> and awe from consumer-grade customers.
>  
> Regarding EMC accreditation itself, it began similar to a Roman Collegium and 
> moved under the national aegis of NARTE. Perhaps this is the way of the 
> World, but NARTE began expanding their accreditation business until EMC was 
> just a small part of their empire. Then NARTE vastly improved their image (if 
> not the ability of members to pronounce the acronym) by rebranding as an 
> international organization, iNARTE. Soon iNARTE sold itself to an Australian 
> accreditation group with the guaranteed unpronounceable acronym of RABQSA, 
> and I began to feel like EMC accreditation was just a small brick in somebody 
> else’s ziggurat. The latest development is that RABQSA has rebranded to 
> Exemplar to avoid strange-name jokes. Still, regardless of the etymology, 
> Exemplar does provide the only (that I know of) EMC-specific accreditation 
> credentials World-wide. (Of course, there is another career path that makes 
> use of EMC skills. This is the NSA directed TEMPEST world [let’s call it the 
> Puzzle Palace’s regulatory compliance World], and there is an Accredited 
> TEMPEST Engineer program [but I don’t think they want you using a neat paper 
> embosser to advertise that]). Hmm, if you are the type of guy who worries 
> about counting the levels of nested parentheses, you might be a TEMPEST kind 
> of guy!
>  
> So sure, sit for the exams and once you pass, you can claim the annual dues 
> as an employee business expense (same for your IEEE & EMC Society dues [I’m 
> assuming USA tax structures, YMMV.]). And if you become a consultant, the 
> credentials may help bolster your image as a professional in tax matters such 
> as an Office-in-Home situation.
>  
> Ed Price
> Ex-iNARTE Certified EMC This J
> Ex-iNARTE Certified EMC That J
> Chula Vista, CA USA
> 
> From: Pawson, James 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 10:01 AM
> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> Subject: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?
>  
> Hello fellow engineers,
>  
> With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC 
> qualification. Specifically, I’m considering one

Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-12 Thread Ed Price
Jim:

 

You live in a World where accreditations are linked to market success.
People are reassured by a flock of compliance markings on the back of a
widget, even if those people are so dense as to strongly believe CE is the
marking for "China Export."

 

Since the ultimate "product" you want to dominate its market is yourself, it
makes sense to know your customer and motivate him with a warm and fuzzy
feeling about you. When you are flashing your BSEE in the competition of
other BSEE's, I wouldn't hesitate to also make it known that I'm an iNARTE
Certified such and such, and that I'm synergistic, lemon-flavored and play
well with others.

 

You are constantly being evaluated by others (many who will never meet with
or talk to you), and many of them will be mightily impressed that you have
iNARTE credentials and can emboss your iNARTE seal on your weekly reports.
So, why not make them happy, secure and proud to employ you?

 

And seriously, although I have not looked at iNARTE exam questions in a long
time, I know that the exams are tough and I would respect anyone who earned
those credentials. That's not such a bad deal; respect from expert customers
and awe from consumer-grade customers.

 

Regarding EMC accreditation itself, it began similar to a Roman Collegium
and moved under the national aegis of NARTE. Perhaps this is the way of the
World, but NARTE began expanding their accreditation business until EMC was
just a small part of their empire. Then NARTE vastly improved their image
(if not the ability of members to pronounce the acronym) by rebranding as an
international organization, iNARTE. Soon iNARTE sold itself to an Australian
accreditation group with the guaranteed unpronounceable acronym of RABQSA,
and I began to feel like EMC accreditation was just a small brick in
somebody else's ziggurat. The latest development is that RABQSA has
rebranded to Exemplar to avoid strange-name jokes. Still, regardless of the
etymology, Exemplar does provide the only (that I know of) EMC-specific
accreditation credentials World-wide. (Of course, there is another career
path that makes use of EMC skills. This is the NSA directed TEMPEST world
[let's call it the Puzzle Palace's regulatory compliance World], and there
is an Accredited TEMPEST Engineer program [but I don't think they want you
using a neat paper embosser to advertise that]). Hmm, if you are the type of
guy who worries about counting the levels of nested parentheses, you might
be a TEMPEST kind of guy!

 

So sure, sit for the exams and once you pass, you can claim the annual dues
as an employee business expense (same for your IEEE & EMC Society dues [I'm
assuming USA tax structures, YMMV.]). And if you become a consultant, the
credentials may help bolster your image as a professional in tax matters
such as an Office-in-Home situation.

 

Ed Price
Ex-iNARTE Certified EMC This J

Ex-iNARTE Certified EMC That J
Chula Vista, CA USA



From: Pawson, James 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 10:01 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

 

Hello fellow engineers,

 

With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC
qualification. Specifically, I'm considering one (or possibly both) of these
accreditations.

 

. iNARTE EMC Design Engineer Certification

. iNARTE Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC/EMI) Certification

 

I'm looking for your advice and experience of

 

. Gaining these qualifications

. Views of the engineering community on the worth of these
qualifications

. Suggestions as to which one of these would be most beneficial for
a career in EMC either working as a company employee or as a
contractor/consultant in EMC testing and design

 

I appreciate these are open questions and I would appreciate any and all
opinions. If you feel more comfortable replying off list then please do.

 

Thanks and regards,

James Pawson

 

Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org>
David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> 


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Re: [PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-11 Thread KC Chan
I am not sure for other countries, but it does has advantage if you are 
working in Japanese companies.  They consider it as a proof of your 
capability of EMC relevant skill, knowledge...


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> 
> Hello fellow engineers,
> 
> With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC 
> qualification. Specifically, I’m considering one (or possibly both) 
> of these accreditations.
> 
> iNARTE EMC Design Engineer Certification
> iNARTE Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC/EMI) Certification
> 
> I’m looking for your advice and experience of
> 
> Gaining these qualifications
> Views of the engineering community on the worth of these qualifications
> Suggestions as to which one of these would be most beneficial for a 
> career in EMC either working as a company employee or as a 
> contractor/consultant in EMC testing and design
> 
> I appreciate these are open questions and I would appreciate any and
> all opinions. If you feel more comfortable replying off list then please 
do.
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> James Pawson
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[PSES] iNARTE EMC accreditation - thoughts?

2016-08-10 Thread Pawson, James
Hello fellow engineers,

With an eye on the future, I am considering taking an iNARTE EMC qualification. 
Specifically, I'm considering one (or possibly both) of these accreditations.

-   iNARTE EMC Design Engineer Certification
-   iNARTE Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC/EMI) Certification

I'm looking for your advice and experience of

-   Gaining these qualifications
-   Views of the engineering community on the worth of these qualifications
-   Suggestions as to which one of these would be most beneficial for a 
career in EMC either working as a company employee or as a 
contractor/consultant in EMC testing and design

I appreciate these are open questions and I would appreciate any and all 
opinions. If you feel more comfortable replying off list then please do.

Thanks and regards,
James Pawson


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