Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 31 August 2009, Rondal Nannie wrote:
>HelloI am working on getting the computer on line and I will get the
> speed and size of the computer. Thanks for the help. Remember to take it
> easy on the new bee...Thanks  Rondal
>
>--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>
>
Gahh!  Another yahoo webmail user.  Is yahoo ever going to actually fix that.  
Note lack of ? mark, cuz we all know they never will.  Never mind me Rondal, 
I'm just venting at yahoo and their 100% broken webmail.  It top posts, and 
it doesn't quote correctly.

How are you coming along on getting that box online?

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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Rondal Nannie]

Steve 
 The computer is a compaq  252 MB ram 82% free , 32 bit file system,  32 
bit virtual memory,  disk compression not installed.  C drive capacity 2.09 GB 
117 mb free space,   D drive 970 MB free space Capacity 1.85 GB.    The EMC is 
partioned in windows I believe.    Hope this helps out  Rondal

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Stephen Wille Padnos  wrote:


From: Stephen Wille Padnos 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 2:19 PM


Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:

>[snip]
>
>Gene,
>
>         I agree on the networking.  I was just tossing the dos2unix 
>utility up as a quick and dirty way to confirm that it was a Winders 
>vs *nix file formatting issue.
>  
>
It's unlikely that this is the problem.  I believe that EMC2-2.2.3 now 
handles DOS line endings gracefully now, and that earlier versions would 
give an error message.  Additionally, dos2unix is part of the "tofrodos" 
package, which would have to be installed ... from the net :)

Rondal, can we get more information about the computer?  So far, I think 
the only specs you've provided are "an older computer".

- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Rondal Nannie]

Hello    I am working on getting the computer on line and I will get the speed 
and size of the computer. Thanks for the help. Remember to take it easy on the 
new bee...Thanks  Rondal

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Gene Heskett  wrote:


From: Gene Heskett 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 2:36 PM


On Monday 31 August 2009, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
>At 09:54 AM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
>>On Monday 31 August 2009, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
>> >Rondal,
>> >
>> >         There's also a nifty little program on most *nix boxen
>> >called "dos2unix."  The syntax to use this command line utility is
>> >dos2unix  .  There are a number of
>> >qualifiers you can add to the command.  Check "man dos2unix".  This
>> >utility takes Windows formatted text files and converts them to Unix
>> >type text files.
>>
>>Mark;
>>
>>I really should have mentioned that in my reply to Rondal.  But actually
>>having the network available on my machine is such an advantage over the
>> long haul that dos2unix completely slipped my mind.  'tr' also could do
>> that, but the syntax has always been a problem child to me so I wouldn't
>> foist that off on a *nix new bee.
>>
>>If Rondal runs a net cable to it, he will wonder how he ever got by
>> without it.  Just the ability to fire up an IRC client, and send it off
>> to irc.freenode.net & /join  #emc, and actually have an excellent chance
>> of talking directly to the guys that write this stuff, will get you
>> answers, often in just 2 or 3 minutes.
>>
>>[huge snippage]
>>
>>--
>>Cheers, Gene
>>"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>>-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>>The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them.
>>
>>
>>Howe's Law:
>>         Everyone has a scheme that will not work.
>
>Gene,
>
>         I agree on the networking.  I was just tossing the dos2unix
>utility up as a quick and dirty way to confirm that it was a Winders
>vs *nix file formatting issue.
>
>Mark
>
I agree there, a very good way to detect if the idea is just a red herring.

Now if we would hear from Rondal, confirming or denying. :)

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Re: [Emc-users] Cutter Radius Compensation; Lead Out Move

[Thorsten Seefeldt]

You are right! I just need to replace "I" with "J" and everything works
fine. I just did not see the wood for the trees ;-) 
Thank you, Chris. 

Many thanks also go to Jon. It is surely not a bad idea to start/end
cutting on an edge.  


Thorsten



By the way I use EMC2.3.




Am Sonntag, den 30.08.2009, 20:34 -0500 schrieb Chris Radek:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:25:23AM +0200, Thorsten Seefeldt wrote:
> 
> > G3 X  90.000 Y -10.000 I -10.000 (Arc out of cut path)
> > G40 (Turn off Cutter Compensation)
> 
> Sorry, my earlier advice was bad because I didn't even look at this.
> 
> This arc is just wrong - try taking out the G41 and run without
> comp.  You will see it's just not what you meant.
> 
> I'm pretty sure you meant J, not I
> 
> And you do it exactly right, leaving cutter comp on until you're
> away from the part edge.
> 
> Chris
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Re: [Emc-users] G76

[Steve Blackmore]

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:48:03 -0500, you wrote:

>On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:35:43AM +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris - thanks found inches/mm in view menu. As Les said it would be
>> good if it changed with G20/G21 automatically.
>
>
>I disagree.
>
>I compare the numbers on the DRO to the numbers on my dial caliper,
>and the numbers on my dial caliper don't change when I load a
>different gcode program.

Don't you have both inch and metric dial calipers? Personally I never
use them these days, I prefer my digital metrinch Moore and Wright.

>Currently we can both have what we want.  It would be wrong to change
>that so only one of us has what we want, because then we'd have to
>argue about it!

??

Alex has the right idea - make it an option :)

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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 31 August 2009, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
>At 09:54 AM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
>>On Monday 31 August 2009, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
>> >Rondal,
>> >
>> > There's also a nifty little program on most *nix boxen
>> >called "dos2unix."  The syntax to use this command line utility is
>> >dos2unix  .  There are a number of
>> >qualifiers you can add to the command.  Check "man dos2unix".  This
>> >utility takes Windows formatted text files and converts them to Unix
>> >type text files.
>>
>>Mark;
>>
>>I really should have mentioned that in my reply to Rondal.  But actually
>>having the network available on my machine is such an advantage over the
>> long haul that dos2unix completely slipped my mind.  'tr' also could do
>> that, but the syntax has always been a problem child to me so I wouldn't
>> foist that off on a *nix new bee.
>>
>>If Rondal runs a net cable to it, he will wonder how he ever got by
>> without it.  Just the ability to fire up an IRC client, and send it off
>> to irc.freenode.net & /join  #emc, and actually have an excellent chance
>> of talking directly to the guys that write this stuff, will get you
>> answers, often in just 2 or 3 minutes.
>>
>>[huge snippage]
>>
>>--
>>Cheers, Gene
>>"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>>-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>>The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them.
>>
>>
>>Howe's Law:
>> Everyone has a scheme that will not work.
>
>Gene,
>
> I agree on the networking.  I was just tossing the dos2unix
>utility up as a quick and dirty way to confirm that it was a Winders
>vs *nix file formatting issue.
>
>Mark
>
I agree there, a very good way to detect if the idea is just a red herring.

Now if we would hear from Rondal, confirming or denying. :)

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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Mark Wendt (Contractor)]

At 10:19 AM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
>Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
>
> >[snip]
> >
> >Gene,
> >
> > I agree on the networking.  I was just tossing the dos2unix
> >utility up as a quick and dirty way to confirm that it was a Winders
> >vs *nix file formatting issue.
> >
> >
>It's unlikely that this is the problem.  I believe that EMC2-2.2.3 now
>handles DOS line endings gracefully now, and that earlier versions would
>give an error message.  Additionally, dos2unix is part of the "tofrodos"
>package, which would have to be installed ... from the net :)
>
>Rondal, can we get more information about the computer?  So far, I think
>the only specs you've provided are "an older computer".
>
>- Steve

Steve,

 Ah, I don't have my Ubuntu computer here at work, only a 
bunch of Redhat machines, and dos2unix comes bundled with.  Didn't 
realize it wasn't bundled in the Ubuntu distro.

Mark 


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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[dave]

On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 09:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> If Rondal runs a net cable to it, he will wonder how he ever got by without 
> it.  Just the ability to fire up an IRC client, and send it off to 
> irc.freenode.net & /join  #emc, and actually have an excellent chance of 
> talking directly to the guys that write this stuff, will get you answers, 
> often in just 2 or 3 minutes.
> 
> [huge snippage]
> 
Just the ability to move g-code programs from your cam machine or house
desktop to the emc machine justifies the connection; cable or otherwise.
I can't quite figure out why it took me so long to make it happen. 

I ran the chess pawn program under stepper-sim on my desktop computer
and it loaded and ran just fine. 

Good luck and happy machining. 

Dave


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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Stephen Wille Padnos]

Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:

>[snip]
>
>Gene,
>
> I agree on the networking.  I was just tossing the dos2unix 
>utility up as a quick and dirty way to confirm that it was a Winders 
>vs *nix file formatting issue.
>  
>
It's unlikely that this is the problem.  I believe that EMC2-2.2.3 now 
handles DOS line endings gracefully now, and that earlier versions would 
give an error message.  Additionally, dos2unix is part of the "tofrodos" 
package, which would have to be installed ... from the net :)

Rondal, can we get more information about the computer?  So far, I think 
the only specs you've provided are "an older computer".

- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] G76

[Chris Radek]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:35:43AM +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris - thanks found inches/mm in view menu. As Les said it would be
> good if it changed with G20/G21 automatically.


I disagree.

I compare the numbers on the DRO to the numbers on my dial caliper,
and the numbers on my dial caliper don't change when I load a
different gcode program.

Currently we can both have what we want.  It would be wrong to change
that so only one of us has what we want, because then we'd have to
argue about it!

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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Mark Wendt (Contractor)]

At 09:54 AM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
>On Monday 31 August 2009, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
> >Rondal,
> >
> > There's also a nifty little program on most *nix boxen
> >called "dos2unix."  The syntax to use this command line utility is
> >dos2unix  .  There are a number of
> >qualifiers you can add to the command.  Check "man dos2unix".  This
> >utility takes Windows formatted text files and converts them to Unix
> >type text files.
> >
>Mark;
>
>I really should have mentioned that in my reply to Rondal.  But actually
>having the network available on my machine is such an advantage over the long
>haul that dos2unix completely slipped my mind.  'tr' also could do that, but
>the syntax has always been a problem child to me so I wouldn't foist that off
>on a *nix new bee.
>
>If Rondal runs a net cable to it, he will wonder how he ever got by without
>it.  Just the ability to fire up an IRC client, and send it off to
>irc.freenode.net & /join  #emc, and actually have an excellent chance of
>talking directly to the guys that write this stuff, will get you answers,
>often in just 2 or 3 minutes.
>
>[huge snippage]
>
>--
>Cheers, Gene
>"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them.
>
>
>Howe's Law:
> Everyone has a scheme that will not work.

Gene,

 I agree on the networking.  I was just tossing the dos2unix 
utility up as a quick and dirty way to confirm that it was a Winders 
vs *nix file formatting issue.

Mark 


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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 31 August 2009, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote:
>Rondal,
>
> There's also a nifty little program on most *nix boxen
>called "dos2unix."  The syntax to use this command line utility is
>dos2unix  .  There are a number of
>qualifiers you can add to the command.  Check "man dos2unix".  This
>utility takes Windows formatted text files and converts them to Unix
>type text files.
>
Mark;

I really should have mentioned that in my reply to Rondal.  But actually 
having the network available on my machine is such an advantage over the long 
haul that dos2unix completely slipped my mind.  'tr' also could do that, but 
the syntax has always been a problem child to me so I wouldn't foist that off 
on a *nix new bee.

If Rondal runs a net cable to it, he will wonder how he ever got by without 
it.  Just the ability to fire up an IRC client, and send it off to 
irc.freenode.net & /join  #emc, and actually have an excellent chance of 
talking directly to the guys that write this stuff, will get you answers, 
often in just 2 or 3 minutes.

[huge snippage]

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[Emc-users] A couple of videos

[Leslie Newell]

Hi all,

I uploaded a couple of videos to Youtube showing my EMC converted 
Colchester Triumph 2000.
This one is cutting a keyway in a gear 

This one is turning and threading a piece of stainless.


Les

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Re: [Emc-users] G76

[Steve Blackmore]

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:38:18 +0100, you wrote:



>> 
>> It would appear from the parameters that the G76 doesn't support taper
>> threads.
>
>No it doesn't. I had to do a taper thread today and the only way was 
>with G33.

I was writing two post processors for Dolphin and FeatureCam, but it's
not worth including G76 if it doesn't support taper threads. There is no
way of limiting the selection in CAM to parallel threads only.

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Re: [Emc-users] G76

[Alex Joni]

I don't agree with that.
I like to have the user interface in mm only, doesn't matter if I load one 
of my programs, or something I received from across the pond :)

The real answer actually is: either way there will be a group of people that 
won't like the default behaviour (either switching or non-switching)
So maybe it could be defined in .axisrc somehow.

Regards,
Alex


> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:17:09 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Additionally - difficult to tell what's going on, lathe is set up in mm,
>>> when running a G20 file, DRO's and feed still display in metric units :(
>>
>>You can pick whichever display units you want in the menu.
>>
>>With AXIS you can have any combination of units: inifile units,
>>gcode program units, dro displayed units.
>
> Hi Chris - thanks found inches/mm in view menu. As Les said it would be
> good if it changed with G20/G21 automatically.
>
> Steve Blackmore
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Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

[Mark Wendt (Contractor)]

Rondal,

 There's also a nifty little program on most *nix boxen 
called "dos2unix."  The syntax to use this command line utility is 
dos2unix  .  There are a number of 
qualifiers you can add to the command.  Check "man dos2unix".  This 
utility takes Windows formatted text files and converts them to Unix 
type text files.

Mark
At 09:55 PM 8/30/2009, you wrote:
>Gene
> I think you may be right about that. I thought that I went 
> into a file that was downloaded with emc . I will try to get the 
> computer on line and try your way. The computer is not connected to 
> the internet right now because it was a older computer and I was 
> only going to use it to run the lathe. I downloaded emc off of a cd. Thanks 
> Ron
>
>--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>
>
>From: Gene Heskett 
>Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program
>To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
>Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 1:18 AM
>
>
>On Sunday 30 August 2009, Rondal Nannie wrote:
> >Frank
> > The hour glass remains and will not let me click on or access anything
> > else. I am not good with the linux and wondered if the Mach 3 would be a
> > little bit more user friendly for a cnc hobby  lathe? Thanks Ron
>
>I have that nagging feeling that you may have downloaded the bit of gcode for
>the chess pawn on a windows box, then moved it to the linux install somehow.
>
>How close am I?
>
>Please use the web browser on the linux box that emc is installed on to go
>get that file.  I think it will solve your problem.  Windows downloads tend
>to make windows compatible line end conversions if the file is a text file,
>and gcode properly is text, and that conversion by adding the carriage
>returns to the line feeds that linux (and any unix) doesn't need but windows
>does, and does not play well on a linux box.
>
>For that exact reason, my emc box has a network card, and a hunk of cat5
>cable strung across the back yard to the shop building the emc driven machine
>is living in.
>
> >--- On Sun, 8/30/09, Frank Tkalcevic  wrote:
> >
> >
> >From: Frank Tkalcevic 
> >Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program
> >To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" 
> >Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 10:26 PM
> >
> >
> >One thing I forgot to ask... You say it loads, but the hourglass still
> >remains?  Can you click on buttons and menu items?  I've had a problem on
> >start up where the hourglass remains, but I can still access axis.  It
> > looks like axis is forgetting to restore the mouse cursor.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Rondal Nannie [mailto:rl...@sbcglobal.net]
> >> Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2009 9:40 AM
> >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program
> >>
> >> Frank  It starts to load the program and the hour glass just
> >> stays on screen and continues forever even after the program
> >> has loaded on the bottom screen. Thanks Ron
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Frank Tkalcevic
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Frank Tkalcevic 
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program
> >> To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'"
> >> 
> >> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 10:41 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> I just tried it and it loads fine on my system.  Are you
> >> seeing any errors?
> >> This is what I see...
> >>
> >> http://imagebin.ca/view/YTlwqwsg.html
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Rondal Nannie [mailto:rl...@sbcglobal.net]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2009 7:34 AM
> >> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> >> > Subject: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program
> >> >
> >> > Hello  I was wondering if anybody else has loaded and run this EMC
> >> > example lathe pawn program? I tried to load it and it just will not
> >> > load for some reason. Thanks in advance. Ron
> >> >
> >> > --- On Mon, 8/17/09, robert  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: robert 
> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program run request
> >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >> > 
> >> > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:10 PM
> >> >
> >> > Rondal Nannie wrote:
> >> > > I do not know about that, I only removed the % sign on the
> >> >
> >> > end of the
> >> >
> >> > > proram. Thanks for the response. Ron
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Ray Henry  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it possible that this is another case of editing a
> >>
> >> text file on
> >>
> >> > > another OS or editor that uses a different end of line code.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Hi ron
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > what ray means if if u wrtie a file on windows say and save it from
> >> > wordpad it will put very funny odd things on end of line
> >>
> >> (inviable to
> >>
> >> > reader, but open it in a true text editor u will see the carriage
> >> > returns and new line markers as they are called) but if u
> >>
> >> made it on
> >>
> >> > EMC machine using Gedit or likes it should be pretty well
> >>
> >> safe to use
> >>
> >> > and give no problems.
> >> >
>

Re: [Emc-users] G76

[Steve Blackmore]

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:17:09 -0500, you wrote:

>> 
>> Additionally - difficult to tell what's going on, lathe is set up in mm,
>> when running a G20 file, DRO's and feed still display in metric units :(
>
>You can pick whichever display units you want in the menu.
>
>With AXIS you can have any combination of units: inifile units,
>gcode program units, dro displayed units.

Hi Chris - thanks found inches/mm in view menu. As Les said it would be
good if it changed with G20/G21 automatically.

Steve Blackmore
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Re: [Emc-users] G76

[Leslie Newell]

Hi Chris,

Steve wants the display units to change with the G-code. If the code is 
metric, the display is metric. If the code is inch the display is in 
inches. Having inch code with metric DROs or vice-versa can be very 
confusing.

Les

> 
> You can pick whichever display units you want in the menu.
> 
> With AXIS you can have any combination of units: inifile units,
> gcode program units, dro displayed units.


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