Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 21 July 2016 00:00:12 TJoseph Powderly wrote:

> Gene
> once again your post title ran me off as i took it to be correct
> your post is titled  'continuous wire'
> not disk, hahaha
>
My bad Tomp, I thought about it, but understood quickly that such a 
machine was way above my pay grade.  I was wondering if something 
using just a couple feet of wire, butt welded like a bandsaw blade, 
might be possible. Or would the wire, flooded for coolant, still burn up 
rapidly?

Thanks Tomp.

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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 July 2016 22:43:21 TJoseph Powderly wrote:

> dont spin too fast
> SFM is pretty low ( compared to regular grinding )
> if too fast you hear the sparking get weak
> (try slower to test quick )
> the spark can get 'blown out' ( as in candle ) if you move too fast
>
This 2.875" disk was turning about 250-300 revs.  Slow enough it wasn't 
throwing K2 all over. I don't think I had a blow out problem. I did run 
the gap down to a short several times but found the head could be horsed 
around to re-open the gap and let it sizzle for a bit.  Then I could 
start feeding it again.

> AGie EDM grinders were used to slot sewing machine carbide plates
> and the wheel was 12"dia and near 120 rpm
> thats was back in 1970 at Union Special ( mfctr )
> my deep mem is not so good ;-(
>
Neither is mine, too many years on the wet ram I believe.

> tomp tjtr33
>
> On 07/21/16 06:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:30:43 dave wrote:
> >> Hi gene,
> >> I may have come in too late: i.e.
> >> Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
> >> IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
> >> quite nicely. Hope you get something working.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> > I should have it in progress in another 15 minutes.  But the disk
> > is .03125" brass I made and arbor for, and in case things are a
> > little warped, I ran it at about 300 and set the edge down of a
> > skate bearing hard enough to just barely bend it, then ran it back
> > up the post very slowly, which should result in it running dead
> > true.  And I can't find the small cap, so the discharge is going to
> > be REAL as the cap is a 10 UF oil filled paper.  Noisy as hell too.
> > So we should be able to see if its going to work yet tonight,
> >
> > Take care Dave.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 July 2016 22:34:00 TJoseph Powderly wrote:

> Hello Gene
> Using copper tools to cut steel ( all other variable untouched )
> Positive tool is lower wear & slower cut & rougher finish
> Negative tool is higher wear & faster cut & finer finish
> hth
> tomp
> tjtr33

No copper flashing handy, so I used a thin sheet of brass. I made an 
arbor to hold a disk, then cut out a 3" disk which I ran against a skate 
wheel bearing hard on the down face, enough to bend it slightly, then 
followed the demag procedure and lifted it back off the bearing slowly 
so it would stop bending at the point  where it ran dead true. But the 
1/8" center hole and a 3mm0.5 retainer screw were off center just enough 
it took an hour to burn the edge concentric, but once that was done I 
could, for shade tree edm, march it right along at about 30 minutes a 
slot.  Burn current about 1/2 amp average. I had glued with some si 
glue, a nut to the far end so I could lay it down on the flat, but the 
GO2 wasn't fully set, so the K2 screwed the adhesion enough the nut fell 
off just now. I have one more slot to cut, so I'll see if any of my 
superglue is usable tomorrow.

In resuscitating  my previously built edm power supply, I found I'd put a 
dpdt switch so I could reverse it, but the way I hooked it up, the dvm 
said I had + on the workpiece. It seemed to work ok considering the 
voltage was only in the 30 something range. That would match up with 
your - on the tool.

Thanks Tomp.

> http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/66135144/effect-tool-polari
>ty-machining-characteristics-electric-discharge-machining-silver-steel-
>statistical-modelling-process

I bookmarked this one. good discussion.

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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[TJoseph Powderly]

Gene
in this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccYE0ICp5F8
he shows a better pyvcp panel ( and shows he's likely using a parport)
AND hahaha hes using an old AGie 60L generator for power
AND a home-made 'crossbow' wire feed on a stock sinker
( with linuxcnc moving the slides )

got a Polish friend? he's done a boatload of work on this.
the webpage shows a lot more info

Imea & Istema ( edm tooling mfctrs now defunct, bought out by Georg 
Fischer )
both made 'crossbows' to mount on sink edms
the wire moved from left spool to right spool
cutting direction was in YZ plane, the wire tool aligned with X

Andre's setup is more like a coping saw than cross bow

tomp tjtr33

On 07/21/16 06:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:30:43 dave wrote:
>
>> Hi gene,
>> I may have come in too late: i.e.
>> Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
>> IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
>> quite nicely. Hope you get something working.
>>
>> Dave
> I should have it in progress in another 15 minutes.  But the disk
> is .03125" brass I made and arbor for, and in case things are a little
> warped, I ran it at about 300 and set the edge down of a skate bearing
> hard enough to just barely bend it, then ran it back up the post very
> slowly, which should result in it running dead true.  And I can't find
> the small cap, so the discharge is going to be REAL as the cap is a 10
> UF oil filled paper.  Noisy as hell too. So we should be able to see if
> its going to work yet tonight,
>
> Take care Dave.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[TJoseph Powderly]

Gene
once again your post title ran me off as i took it to be correct
your post is titled  'continuous wire'
not disk, hahaha

if you wanted continuous wire
( reciprocating versus single direction, using capstan windlass rewinder)
then look at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoV8UXtLYmE

Andre has a few linuxcnc videos

the wire is tungsten, it is fed very fast, then REWOUND and the path 
continues
if the wire breaks, it immediately fills the room with a tangle
the machines are cheap ( compared to normal single use wire types ),
the dielectric is milling machine cutting fluid dribbled onto top guide
the wire can be reused a LOT
the machines use a lathe spindle-like feed and rewinder
a cnc coping saw for steel ;-)
tomp
tjtr33

On 07/21/16 06:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:30:43 dave wrote:
>
>> Hi gene,
>> I may have come in too late: i.e.
>> Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
>> IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
>> quite nicely. Hope you get something working.
>>
>> Dave
> I should have it in progress in another 15 minutes.  But the disk
> is .03125" brass I made and arbor for, and in case things are a little
> warped, I ran it at about 300 and set the edge down of a skate bearing
> hard enough to just barely bend it, then ran it back up the post very
> slowly, which should result in it running dead true.  And I can't find
> the small cap, so the discharge is going to be REAL as the cap is a 10
> UF oil filled paper.  Noisy as hell too. So we should be able to see if
> its going to work yet tonight,
>
> Take care Dave.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[TJoseph Powderly]

dont spin too fast
SFM is pretty low ( compared to regular grinding )
if too fast you hear the sparking get weak
(try slower to test quick )
the spark can get 'blown out' ( as in candle ) if you move too fast

AGie EDM grinders were used to slot sewing machine carbide plates
and the wheel was 12"dia and near 120 rpm
thats was back in 1970 at Union Special ( mfctr )
my deep mem is not so good ;-(

tomp tjtr33

On 07/21/16 06:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:30:43 dave wrote:
>
>> Hi gene,
>> I may have come in too late: i.e.
>> Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
>> IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
>> quite nicely. Hope you get something working.
>>
>> Dave
> I should have it in progress in another 15 minutes.  But the disk
> is .03125" brass I made and arbor for, and in case things are a little
> warped, I ran it at about 300 and set the edge down of a skate bearing
> hard enough to just barely bend it, then ran it back up the post very
> slowly, which should result in it running dead true.  And I can't find
> the small cap, so the discharge is going to be REAL as the cap is a 10
> UF oil filled paper.  Noisy as hell too. So we should be able to see if
> its going to work yet tonight,
>
> Take care Dave.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[TJoseph Powderly]

Hello Gene
Using copper tools to cut steel ( all other variable untouched )
Positive tool is lower wear & slower cut & rougher finish
Negative tool is higher wear & faster cut & finer finish
hth
tomp
tjtr33

http://connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/66135144/effect-tool-polarity-machining-characteristics-electric-discharge-machining-silver-steel-statistical-modelling-process

http://edmtechman.com/about.cfm?pg=2=8

On 07/21/16 06:27, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:14:21 andy pugh wrote:
>
>> On 20 July 2016 at 18:29, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>>> I don't have a mill spindle with the torque enough to turn one of
>>> those at a good enough feed rate to keep it cutting clean, and slow
>>> enough it won't burn dull in seconds.
>> You could use the lathe, I suspect.
> But for edm, I can't turn it so the electrode disk is well covered with
> k2.  EDM leaves no burrs to trim off.  Sitting in a dishwasher soap
> packet container is just right for a nearly 3" disk.
>
> So one final Q for the list, whats the best polarity? I don't recall
> reading that on the wikipedia pages, but I'll go look again. No, it
> doesn't make any polarity assumptions, so I guess I'll go get started.
>
> All I am needing now is to make a wire wrapper for the spindle shank,
> ditto the work piece. Strip 2+ inches, spread it in two and wrap the
> disks arbor shank with one, and the part with the other lead.
>
> Thanks and I'll be back later.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:30:43 dave wrote:

> Hi gene,
> I may have come in too late: i.e.
> Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
> IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
> quite nicely. Hope you get something working.
>
> Dave

I should have it in progress in another 15 minutes.  But the disk 
is .03125" brass I made and arbor for, and in case things are a little 
warped, I ran it at about 300 and set the edge down of a skate bearing 
hard enough to just barely bend it, then ran it back up the post very 
slowly, which should result in it running dead true.  And I can't find 
the small cap, so the discharge is going to be REAL as the cap is a 10 
UF oil filled paper.  Noisy as hell too. So we should be able to see if 
its going to work yet tonight,

Take care Dave.

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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 July 2016 14:14:21 andy pugh wrote:

> On 20 July 2016 at 18:29, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > I don't have a mill spindle with the torque enough to turn one of
> > those at a good enough feed rate to keep it cutting clean, and slow
> > enough it won't burn dull in seconds.
>
> You could use the lathe, I suspect.

But for edm, I can't turn it so the electrode disk is well covered with 
k2.  EDM leaves no burrs to trim off.  Sitting in a dishwasher soap 
packet container is just right for a nearly 3" disk.

So one final Q for the list, whats the best polarity? I don't recall 
reading that on the wikipedia pages, but I'll go look again. No, it 
doesn't make any polarity assumptions, so I guess I'll go get started.

All I am needing now is to make a wire wrapper for the spindle shank, 
ditto the work piece. Strip 2+ inches, spread it in two and wrap the 
disks arbor shank with one, and the part with the other lead.

Thanks and I'll be back later.

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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[dave]

Hi gene,
I may have come in too late: i.e.
Day late and a dollar short. Welcome to the real world.
IIUC you want a slot. EDM and a copper disk should do this
quite nicely. Hope you get something working.

Dave

On 07/20/2016 10:29 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 July 2016 13:12:09 andy pugh wrote:
>
>> On 20 July 2016 at 17:34, Rick Lair  wrote:
 http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6
>>> Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page,
>> Search for "slitting saws" then.
> I don't have a mill spindle with the torque enough to turn one of those
> at a good enough feed rate to keep it cutting clean, and slow enough it
> won't burn dull in seconds.  Thats why I didn't consider it the last
> time this was discussed.
>
> Thanks.  So I am off to inventory what I have, and can use.  For a k2
> container, I have an empty dishwasher packet container, should be plenty
> big enough. And disposable in the burn pit when I'm done, k2 and all.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

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On 20 July 2016 at 18:29, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> I don't have a mill spindle with the torque enough to turn one of those
> at a good enough feed rate to keep it cutting clean, and slow enough it
> won't burn dull in seconds.

You could use the lathe, I suspect.

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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 20 July 2016 13:12:09 andy pugh wrote:

> On 20 July 2016 at 17:34, Rick Lair  wrote:
> >> http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6
> >
> > Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page,
>
> Search for "slitting saws" then.

I don't have a mill spindle with the torque enough to turn one of those 
at a good enough feed rate to keep it cutting clean, and slow enough it 
won't burn dull in seconds.  Thats why I didn't consider it the last 
time this was discussed.

Thanks.  So I am off to inventory what I have, and can use.  For a k2 
container, I have an empty dishwasher packet container, should be plenty 
big enough. And disposable in the burn pit when I'm done, k2 and all.

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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[andy pugh]

On 20 July 2016 at 17:34, Rick Lair  wrote:

>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6

> Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page,

Search for "slitting saws" then.


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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Rick Lair]

On 07/20/2016 11:52 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 20 July 2016 at 16:41, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>> So I am thinking of other ways to do this.
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6
>
Bad link, just goes to Mcmasters main page,

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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

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On 07/20/2016 09:26 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> Gentlemen,
>  My original proposal was intended to get the discussion flowing and
> finalize the date by July 30.
> The week of the 17th is fine with me. Unless other considerations are
> expressed we will consider the week of the 17th the proposed date.
> thanks
> Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Chris Radek  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 01:09:30PM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
>>> Gentlemen,
>>> I want to reiterate the date is not set in stone (unless we want it to
>> be).
>>> I want to facilitate anyone's schedule so if we have conflicts let's
>> change
>>> the date to resolve them.
>>> anytime will work for me but a week prior or a week later would be great
>>
>>
>> Jeff and I would both like to come, but we have a conflict Oct 3-14.
>>
>> The following week would be much better for us, Monday the 17th (or
>> whenever we would start) through that following weekend, 22/23.
>>
>> Would this change mess up anyone else?

Yay, works for me!  I'll plan to be there the week of October 17th. 
Looking forward to seeing everyone again!

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Re: [Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[andy pugh]

On 20 July 2016 at 16:41, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> So I am thinking of other ways to do this.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#=13d62q6

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[Emc-users] EDM with continuous wire?

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings everybody;

The next step in making this shaft extension will be slitting the socket 
so that a tapered nut matching the tapered threads can compress the 
resulting fingered socket.

I did this once before using the larger of the dremel diamond disks, but 
was not at all happy with the slitting because there's no way to make it 
spin dead true on that poorly made quick change mount. And due to wear 
of the diamonds, it eventually starts pinching the disk badly enough 
that the dremel can stall.

So I am thinking of other ways to do this.  One way would be to make a 
brass disk, say 3" in diameter with a hole in the center, and an arbor 
to mount it, then bury it in a container of k2 sitting on the toy mills 
table, container big enough to hold this shaft, perhaps with a hex nut 
glued to the other end in order to supply a reference flat for the angle 
separation of the slots. The disk being spun at a low rpm so that it is 
carrying away the edm debris and refreshing the k2 in the working gap.

Has anyone any experience at rigging up such a contraption?

And do we have a module that can modulate the x feed, including a 
reversal in the event of a short, unlikely with a rotating disk as the 
sacrificial tool I think, but something that would attempt to maintain a 
consistent average gap voltage by making the x feedrate variable?  Not 
haveing had that in my previous EDM adventures, its always been just use 
a slow enough feed that there may not be any sparks at all for a few 
seconds as its using the maximum voltage the supply can muster.  Perhaps 
an offset module in the x stepper path?  I could probably cobble 
something together but "calibrating" it might take the fun out of it. 
But from discussions I have read, the lower voltage, higher frequency 
spark results in a finer finish and a faster rate of cutting. So that 
would seem to be desirable.

For simplicity the spark source will be RC. At about 39 volts, enough R 
to keep the short circuit current at about 2 amps, and if I can find it, 
a 1uf mylar capacitor. The last time I did this, I was boreing holes in 
a 10" table saw blade to mount it on my rotary table so I could sharpen 
it.  And I used about 75 volts with a 10 uf oiled paper capacitor, huge 
sparks, noisy enough I put on some shooting earmuffs, and drilled a 
flawless 6mm hole thru 95 thou of chrome plated hard steel in about 4 
minutes a hole.

Any gotcha's I should watch for from those of you with possibly similar 
experience?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Stuart Stevenson]

Gentlemen,
 My original proposal was intended to get the discussion flowing and
finalize the date by July 30.
The week of the 17th is fine with me. Unless other considerations are
expressed we will consider the week of the 17th the proposed date.
thanks
Stuart


On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Chris Radek  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 01:09:30PM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> > Gentlemen,
> > I want to reiterate the date is not set in stone (unless we want it to
> be).
> > I want to facilitate anyone's schedule so if we have conflicts let's
> change
> > the date to resolve them.
> > anytime will work for me but a week prior or a week later would be great
>
>
> Jeff and I would both like to come, but we have a conflict Oct 3-14.
>
> The following week would be much better for us, Monday the 17th (or
> whenever we would start) through that following weekend, 22/23.
>
> Would this change mess up anyone else?
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[Chris Radek]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 01:09:30PM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> I want to reiterate the date is not set in stone (unless we want it to be).
> I want to facilitate anyone's schedule so if we have conflicts let's change
> the date to resolve them.
> anytime will work for me but a week prior or a week later would be great


Jeff and I would both like to come, but we have a conflict Oct 3-14.

The following week would be much better for us, Monday the 17th (or
whenever we would start) through that following weekend, 22/23.

Would this change mess up anyone else?


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Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

[bari]

Stuart,

How about the week after October 14th? Everyone seems to be free then vs 
the week before.

On 06/22/2016 01:09 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> I want to reiterate the date is not set in stone (unless we want it to be).
> I want to facilitate anyone's schedule so if we have conflicts let's change
> the date to resolve them.
> anytime will work for me but a week prior or a week later would be great
> thanks
> Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:
>
>> This will most probably be an October 7th, 8th and 9th event.
>> In all honesty anyone can come at any time.
>> We schedule it for the entire week including the weekend. People come when
>> they can but most get here Thursday and Friday and go home Sunday or Monday.
>> We will be set up to start Monday for anyone that arrives then.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Ed  wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/15/2016 10:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
 Gentlemen,
 I propose the week of Oct 3rd through whenever the last person leaves.
 Check your schedules against these dates and let the list know if you
>>> have
 conflicts.
 I think the goal should be to have a schedule set by July 30. That
>>> gives us
 45 days to make changes and allow time for travel arrangements to be
>>> made
 after July 30.
 This date is nothing more than my attempt to set a goal to get everyone
 here and have a good time. The date is fluid on purpose.

>>> Will this include a weekend? For myself I can get to something within an
>>> days drive and on a weekend. Witchita is at the end of a 12 hr drive.
>>> The joys of being your own boss and the only employee. I am  a
>>> fanboi/user/student more than an integrator or developer.
>>>
>>> Ed.
>>>
>>>
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