Re: [Emc-users] G2, G3 Arc Feed with rotaty axis

2013-03-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 March 2013 18:17, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote:

 So what I need to do, is to use G2 or G3 to move the follower showed in the
 picture following the trajectory of the crankpins combining the two linear
 axis simultaneously with the rotary axis of the crankshaft. I could program
 some arcs and I understand the way it works, but the thing is I don't see
 any examples using this with a synchronized rotary axis.

I tried it in sim/axis/9-axis and it works fine. The movements all
finish at the same time, so are perfectly synched.

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Re: [Emc-users] G2, G3 Arc Feed with rotaty axis

2013-03-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello Andy.

Now the machine is turned on and working but when I have a little time I
will try with that configuration.

The program line would be more or less like this right? (movement on X and
Y, C is the rotary axis)

G2 X0 Y0 C360 I10 J10 F10 P2

Would that give a two turn movement on the rotary axis? Because I need to
do several turns, or do I need to offset the rotary axis to zero right
after the G2 line and make a loop?

Thanks!



2013/3/5 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com

 On 5 March 2013 18:17, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  So what I need to do, is to use G2 or G3 to move the follower showed in
 the
  picture following the trajectory of the crankpins combining the two
 linear
  axis simultaneously with the rotary axis of the crankshaft. I could
 program
  some arcs and I understand the way it works, but the thing is I don't see
  any examples using this with a synchronized rotary axis.

 I tried it in sim/axis/9-axis and it works fine. The movements all
 finish at the same time, so are perfectly synched.

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Re: [Emc-users] G2, G3 Arc Feed with rotaty axis

2013-03-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 March 2013 19:16, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote:

 G2 X0 Y0 C360 I10 J10 F10 P2

 Would that give a two turn movement on the rotary axis?

No, that would be 2 rotations in XY and only one in C.

G2 X0 Y0 C720 I10 J10 F10 P2

Is what you would need.

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Re: [Emc-users] G2, G3 Arc Feed with rotaty axis

2013-03-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 March 2013 19:34, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 G2 X0 Y0 C720 I10 J10 F10 P2

 Is what you would need.

I guess you are measuring crankpin roundness?


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Re: [Emc-users] G2, G3 Arc Feed with rotaty axis

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 04:16:28PM -0300, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
 
 G2 X0 Y0 C360 I10 J10 F10 P2
 
 Would that give a two turn movement on the rotary axis? Because I need to
 do several turns, or do I need to offset the rotary axis to zero right
 after the G2 line and make a loop?

You've got the right idea.  Some thoughts, looking here:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G2-G3-Arc

You already found 

To program an arc that gives more than one full turn, use a
P word specifying the number of full or partial turns of arc.

and probably also

If a line of code makes an arc and includes rotary axis
motion, the rotary axes turn at a constant rate so that the
rotary motion starts and finishes when the XYZ motion starts
and finishes.  Lines of this sort are hardly ever programmed.

To do full circles, don't program X and Y words:

No axis words and one or more offsets must be programmed for
full circles.

So, starting at X=0 Y=0 C=0 you could have 10 full turns like

G2 C3600 J10 P10

No looping is required.

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Re: [Emc-users] G2, G3 Arc Feed with rotaty axis

2013-03-05 Thread Peter Blodow
Andy, from what I know from Leonardo, I druther guess that it's a case 
of zonal induction heating for hardening purposes.

Peter

Am 05.03.2013 20:35, schrieb andy pugh:
 On 5 March 2013 19:34, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 G2 X0 Y0 C720 I10 J10 F10 P2

 Is what you would need.
 I guess you are measuring crankpin roundness?




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Re: [Emc-users] G2, G3 Arc Feed with rotaty axis

2013-03-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Thanks a lot Andy and Chris!

Very well explained, and it's easier than what I was thinking.

Andy as Peter well said, this is to make a positioning system to do
induction heating on crankshafts. Since all the journals need to be heated,
and we're planning on making a production of at least 100 pieces per month
initially, we're studying the possibility of heating the crankshaft like
this so it can be automatic. The other way would be a split coil but this
way is harder to automate, and we would like to make it fully automated.

2013/3/5 Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de

 Andy, from what I know from Leonardo, I druther guess that it's a case
 of zonal induction heating for hardening purposes.

 Peter

 Am 05.03.2013 20:35, schrieb andy pugh:
  On 5 March 2013 19:34, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  G2 X0 Y0 C720 I10 J10 F10 P2
 
  Is what you would need.
  I guess you are measuring crankpin roundness?
 
 



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