Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
On 24 August 2013 18:59, aaron moore wrote: > I have NPN 6-30vdc proximity switches. The breakout board is a very basic 25 > way routout model so old I can't seem to google it. So, purely a physical interface, no optos or anything like that. First, with nothing connected and using a multimeter check that the parallel port input pin sits at +5V. Then short it to one of the 0V pins with a bit of wire and check that doing that changes the state of the input in the software. Then make sure that the voltage measured between the prox output wire and the prox 0V wire is always less than 5V both with the prox switched and not-switched. (I just checked, and that is the case for mine). If all that works then you should be able to connect the prox output wire to the parport, even though the prox is working at 12V. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
I have NPN 6-30vdc proximity switches. The breakout board is a very basic 25 way routout model so old I can't seem to google it.this links to something similar. http://www.routoutcnc.co.uk/25WayD.pdf Thanks for taking the time Aaron - Original Message - From: andy pugh Sent: 08/24/13 05:35 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch On 24 August 2013 08:02, aaron moore wrote: > Please could someone tell me how to wire 3 wire proximity home switch to my break out board. That depends on the type of the proximity switch, they come in two types, rather inaccurately called NPN and PNP. http://sensortech.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/industrial-sensing-fundamentals-–-back-to-the-basics-npn-vs-pnp/ When I wired mine it was relatively easy, as I have a 7i64 with isolated inputs, but even then I initially had the sensors on the wrong side of the input. The result of this was the internal LED glowing dimly when "off" and brightly when "on" (though it did actually work). You need to think of them in terms of current flow, not voltage, as they are often used to operate relays rather than logic. The power supply wires are easy enough to figure out, those need a supply of the rated voltage. Then, depending on the type of the sensor, the output wire will either source current (from the positive supply) or sink current (to the 0V wire) when activated. If you have an NPN sensor then it is likely that you can connect the output wire directly to your BoB. The BoB input will (probably) be weakly pulled up to 5V, and when the prox activates then it will be pulled down to 0V. If you have PNP sensors, or if the inputs on the BoB are opto-couplers, then it gets a little more complicated. So, what type of prox sensor do you have, and what is the nature of the BoB inputs (and, also, are the inputs two-terminal floating inputs, or commoned on the +5 or commoned on the 0V side? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
On 24 August 2013 08:02, aaron moore wrote: > Please could someone tell me how to wire 3 wire proximity home switch to my > break out board. That depends on the type of the proximity switch, they come in two types, rather inaccurately called NPN and PNP. http://sensortech.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/industrial-sensing-fundamentals-–-back-to-the-basics-npn-vs-pnp/ When I wired mine it was relatively easy, as I have a 7i64 with isolated inputs, but even then I initially had the sensors on the wrong side of the input. The result of this was the internal LED glowing dimly when "off" and brightly when "on" (though it did actually work). You need to think of them in terms of current flow, not voltage, as they are often used to operate relays rather than logic. The power supply wires are easy enough to figure out, those need a supply of the rated voltage. Then, depending on the type of the sensor, the output wire will either source current (from the positive supply) or sink current (to the 0V wire) when activated. If you have an NPN sensor then it is likely that you can connect the output wire directly to your BoB. The BoB input will (probably) be weakly pulled up to 5V, and when the prox activates then it will be pulled down to 0V. If you have PNP sensors, or if the inputs on the BoB are opto-couplers, then it gets a little more complicated. So, what type of prox sensor do you have, and what is the nature of the BoB inputs (and, also, are the inputs two-terminal floating inputs, or commoned on the +5 or commoned on the 0V side? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
2013/8/24 aaron moore > I think it is a realy old one. This is the closest link I can find > Should I see a link here? -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
I think it is a realy old one. This is the closest link I can find Aaron - Original Message - From: Andrew Sent: 08/24/13 12:52 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch 2013/8/24 aaron moore > I have cobbled together a routout breakout board, 3 power supply modules > and 3 micro stepper drives and they are connected via parallel port to a > Linuxcnc pc. > Do I need to get another power supply? > There must be +5V on the breakout board. Can you give a link to it? Andrew -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
2013/8/24 aaron moore > I have cobbled together a routout breakout board, 3 power supply modules > and 3 micro stepper drives and they are connected via parallel port to a > Linuxcnc pc. > Do I need to get another power supply? > There must be +5V on the breakout board. Can you give a link to it? Andrew -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
I have cobbled together a routout breakout board, 3 power supply modules and 3 micro stepper drives and they are connected via parallel port to a Linuxcnc pc. Do I need to get another power supply? Aaron - Original Message - From: Andrew Sent: 08/24/13 10:17 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch 2013/8/24 aaron moore > Where do I get 5v from the breakout board? > Depends on the board, I guess. I don't know your control box design, but I usually take +5V and +12V from a Molex connector of PC's PSU. Andrew -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
2013/8/24 aaron moore > Where do I get 5v from the breakout board? > Depends on the board, I guess. I don't know your control box design, but I usually take +5V and +12V from a Molex connector of PC's PSU. Andrew -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
Where do I get 5v from the breakout board? Aaron - Original Message - From: Andrew Sent: 08/24/13 09:32 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch 2013/8/24 aaron moore > Is it possible that they could run off 5v? Here is link to product > http://www.marchantdice.com/worldofcnc/pdf/homeswitch_wiring.pdf > Anyway where do I get power supply from (stupid question I know) the > output on the power supplies running my drivers are 42v and 68v. > I use a bit other switches (also meant for 6-30V) powered from PC's +5V. Andrew -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
Aaron I usually fit a small switch mode PSU (1A to 3A) to my control box to power proximity switches and relays. Some breakout boards will supply 24v already but I always provide my own 24v. I am not sure about the 5V units but as far as I know the industrial quality stuff can run from 10V to 30V or round about there. On 2013/08/24 10:23 AM, aaron moore wrote: > Thanks Marius > Is it possible that they could run off 5v? Here is link to product > http://www.marchantdice.com/worldofcnc/pdf/homeswitch_wiring.pdf > Anyway where do I get power supply from (stupid question I know) the output > on the power supplies running my drivers are 42v and 68v. > Thanks again for you time > Aaron > - Original Message - > From: Marius Liebenberg > Sent: 08/24/13 08:35 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch > > Aaron Those switches need to be powered. Normally 24v will be good. So check > the specs of that device and it will show one wire to 24V, one to ground and > the other to the pin ( I cant remember the colors). These switches can be > either NPN or PNP output but that should not worry you to much if you go to a > pin. On 2013/08/24 09:02 AM, aaron moore wrote: > Hi All > Please could > someone tell me how to wire 3 wire proximity home switch to my break out > board. > Do I simply connect blue to ground and brown to the designated pin > (10)? > Or > Do I have to do something to the third yellow wire? > Thanks > > Aaron > > > Re-Form Furniture > Aaron Moore > Conileigh > Skinners Bottom > > Redruth > Cornwall > TR16 5DY > > Tel: 01209 890084 > Mob: 07805686188 > > Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org > Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk > > -- > > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > > AppDynamics. Performance Cent ral is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130823-1, 2013/08/23 Tested on: 2013/08/24 09:35:24 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Managemen t. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > Re-Form Furniture > Aaron Moore > Conileigh > Skinners Bottom > Redruth > Cornwall > TR16 5DY > > Tel: 01209 890084 > Mob: 07805686188 > Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org > Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk > -- > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130823-1, 2013/08/23 Tested on: 2013/08/24 10:53:40 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
2013/8/24 aaron moore > Is it possible that they could run off 5v? Here is link to product > http://www.marchantdice.com/worldofcnc/pdf/homeswitch_wiring.pdf > Anyway where do I get power supply from (stupid question I know) the > output on the power supplies running my drivers are 42v and 68v. > I use a bit other switches (also meant for 6-30V) powered from PC's +5V. Andrew -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
Thanks Marius Is it possible that they could run off 5v? Here is link to product http://www.marchantdice.com/worldofcnc/pdf/homeswitch_wiring.pdf Anyway where do I get power supply from (stupid question I know) the output on the power supplies running my drivers are 42v and 68v. Thanks again for you time Aaron - Original Message - From: Marius Liebenberg Sent: 08/24/13 08:35 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch Aaron Those switches need to be powered. Normally 24v will be good. So check the specs of that device and it will show one wire to 24V, one to ground and the other to the pin ( I cant remember the colors). These switches can be either NPN or PNP output but that should not worry you to much if you go to a pin. On 2013/08/24 09:02 AM, aaron moore wrote: > Hi All > Please could someone tell me how to wire 3 wire proximity home switch to my break out board. > Do I simply connect blue to ground and brown to the designated pin (10)? > Or > Do I have to do something to the third yellow wire? > Thanks > Aaron > > > Re-Form Furniture > Aaron Moore > Conileigh > Skinners Bottom > Redruth > Cornwall > TR16 5DY > > Tel: 01209 890084 > Mob: 07805686188 > Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org > Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk > -- > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Centra l is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130823-1, 2013/08/23 Tested on: 2013/08/24 09:35:24 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Proximity home switch
Aaron Those switches need to be powered. Normally 24v will be good. So check the specs of that device and it will show one wire to 24V, one to ground and the other to the pin ( I cant remember the colors). These switches can be either NPN or PNP output but that should not worry you to much if you go to a pin. On 2013/08/24 09:02 AM, aaron moore wrote: > Hi All > Please could someone tell me how to wire 3 wire proximity home switch to my > break out board. > Do I simply connect blue to ground and brown to the designated pin (10)? > Or > Do I have to do something to the third yellow wire? > Thanks > Aaron > > > Re-Form Furniture > Aaron Moore > Conileigh > Skinners Bottom > Redruth > Cornwall > TR16 5DY > > Tel: 01209 890084 > Mob: 07805686188 > Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org > Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk > -- > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130823-1, 2013/08/23 Tested on: 2013/08/24 09:35:24 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Proximity home switch
Hi All Please could someone tell me how to wire 3 wire proximity home switch to my break out board. Do I simply connect blue to ground and brown to the designated pin (10)? Or Do I have to do something to the third yellow wire? Thanks Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web: www.re-formfurniture.co.uk -- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. Visit us today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
