Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's
Gene, This probably isn't exactly the one you're looking for, but it's considerably cheaper than $90. You do have to install a 5k pot. They work very similar to the mini-lathe motor controllers in that you have to ramp up the speed. I think they're based on the controls for treadmills and are rated for 8 amp continuos output at 130 VDC. I've got two of these fellas I'll be using on my CNC saw beveler. http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2007122717513748item=11-2449catname=electric Mark At 06:03 PM 2/22/2008, you wrote: Greetings; I came across a link 4 or 5 days ago for a speed controller for these line voltage dc motors like the HF mill and 7zx12 lathes use that had all the fwd/reverse relays etc incorporated on the board, along with a variable voltage optoisolated source that replaced the speed pot in the KBIC circuit, and sold for a hair less than $90, which compares with the DigiSpeedXL at $66 but it didn't have the extra reversing relays this interface kit does. I neglected to bookmark the site, and now google can't find it again. And I'd would rather not deal with an au company as they advertise in USD, but I've wound up paying in AUD which is a good premium charge for somebody. Twice now, and the diff has totalled to nearly 50 bucks. Can anyone else recall the name or url for the interface/control device I'm describing? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's
On Saturday 23 February 2008, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: Gene, This probably isn't exactly the one you're looking for, but it's considerably cheaper than $90. You do have to install a 5k pot. They work very similar to the mini-lathe motor controllers in that you have to ramp up the speed. I think they're based on the controls for treadmills and are rated for 8 amp continuos output at 130 VDC. I've got two of these fellas I'll be using on my CNC saw beveler. http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2007122717513748item=11-2449cat name=electric Mark Thanks Mark, but the KBIC I have internal to the micromill is functioning just fine. However that, and that .75 horse DC motor would make a nice combo for spindle drive as the existing motors maximum of 2500 at the spindle is a limit to using it for engraving. OTOH, I have no idea how long that spindle would survive at 10k rpms either. It certainly could be boxed up for swarf protection and remotely mounted for use as a replacement should the KBIC die. For that, having one on the shelf might not be a bad idea since they want around a 100 dollar bill for a new one if I let the smoke out of this one. That motor, face mount, Item 10-2326 at $19.95 certainly isn't suitable though as its cooling is lengthwise and the ends are wide open, looks to be very cheaply made and for a clean location. 13 lbs, at least double the weight of the existing motor. But I'd have to build a whole new drive box and that's a bigger mill called an X3 I believe. :) Anyway, to run that unit with emc, I'd still need Steve's interface to control it he is only a half a days drive from me if I can figure out the road. OTOH he takes VISA. :-) At 06:03 PM 2/22/2008, you wrote: Greetings; I came across a link 4 or 5 days ago for a speed controller for these line voltage dc motors like the HF mill and 7zx12 lathes use that had all the fwd/reverse relays etc incorporated on the board, along with a variable voltage optoisolated source that replaced the speed pot in the KBIC circuit, and sold for a hair less than $90, which compares with the DigiSpeedXL at $66 but it didn't have the extra reversing relays this interface kit does. I neglected to bookmark the site, and now google can't find it again. And I'd would rather not deal with an au company as they advertise in USD, but I've wound up paying in AUD which is a good premium charge for somebody. Twice now, and the diff has totalled to nearly 50 bucks. Can anyone else recall the name or url for the interface/control device I'm describing? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. -- Mark Twain - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's
Greetings; I came across a link 4 or 5 days ago for a speed controller for these line voltage dc motors like the HF mill and 7zx12 lathes use that had all the fwd/reverse relays etc incorporated on the board, along with a variable voltage optoisolated source that replaced the speed pot in the KBIC circuit, and sold for a hair less than $90, which compares with the DigiSpeedXL at $66 but it didn't have the extra reversing relays this interface kit does. I neglected to bookmark the site, and now google can't find it again. And I'd would rather not deal with an au company as they advertise in USD, but I've wound up paying in AUD which is a good premium charge for somebody. Twice now, and the diff has totalled to nearly 50 bucks. Can anyone else recall the name or url for the interface/control device I'm describing? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's
maybe this one? http://www.pmdx.com/PMDX-106/ full disclosure I run the company Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gene Heskett Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:03 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's Greetings; I came across a link 4 or 5 days ago for a speed controller for these line voltage dc motors like the HF mill and 7zx12 lathes use that had all the fwd/reverse relays etc incorporated on the board, along with a variable voltage optoisolated source that replaced the speed pot in the KBIC circuit, and sold for a hair less than $90, which compares with the DigiSpeedXL at $66 but it didn't have the extra reversing relays this interface kit does. I neglected to bookmark the site, and now google can't find it again. And I'd would rather not deal with an au company as they advertise in USD, but I've wound up paying in AUD which is a good premium charge for somebody. Twice now, and the diff has totalled to nearly 50 bucks. Can anyone else recall the name or url for the interface/control device I'm describing? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's
On Friday 22 February 2008, Steve Stallings wrote: maybe this one? http://www.pmdx.com/PMDX-106/ full disclosure I run the company Steve Stallings That resembles it, but ISTR the one I was looking at had the relays onboard to replace the rev/off/fwd switching of the KBIC, or am I confused? They were good sized relays, like the PB's that are available up to 4pdt in a .750w x 1.25h x about 1.125 long. Can those little dip relays I see 3 of do that too? I'll go read the .pdf, that may be the one, thanks Steve. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gene Heskett Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:03 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's Greetings; I came across a link 4 or 5 days ago for a speed controller for these line voltage dc motors like the HF mill and 7zx12 lathes use that had all the fwd/reverse relays etc incorporated on the board, along with a variable voltage optoisolated source that replaced the speed pot in the KBIC circuit, and sold for a hair less than $90, which compares with the DigiSpeedXL at $66 but it didn't have the extra reversing relays this interface kit does. I neglected to bookmark the site, and now google can't find it again. And I'd would rather not deal with an au company as they advertise in USD, but I've wound up paying in AUD which is a good premium charge for somebody. Twice now, and the diff has totalled to nearly 50 bucks. Can anyone else recall the name or url for the interface/control device I'm describing? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I'll see you... on the dark side of the moon... -- Pink Floyd - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle control for micromill Q's
On Friday 22 February 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 22 February 2008, Steve Stallings wrote: maybe this one? http://www.pmdx.com/PMDX-106/ full disclosure I run the company Steve Stallings That resembles it, but ISTR the one I was looking at had the relays onboard to replace the rev/off/fwd switching of the KBIC, or am I confused? They were good sized relays, like the PB's that are available up to 4pdt in a .750w x 1.25h x about 1.125 long. Can those little dip relays I see 3 of do that too? I'll go read the .pdf, that may be the one, thanks Steve. Yeah, that must be the one, I'm printing the manual now so I can figure out how to hook it to a 4 axis xylotex board, looks pretty easy on the face of it. I'm reading between the lines and it looks as if I need booster relays for the rev/off/fwd switch as it has about 12 poles. And a separate psu for part of it, a wall wart of some sort. Any prob with running the relay coil circuitry from that same wall wart? Now, I know how to get to Harrisonburg VA, but jumping the rest of the way to Lorton is a bit beyond google earth. I'm thinking of coming over to buy the -OP version in person on a day trip since I'm over in Weston WV and could take 33 into Harrisonburg easily enough, but whats the best way on over, it doesn't appear there is anything remotely resembling a direct route. I'll have roadnav take a shot at it, if it doesn't segfault first, its favorite trick. Reply off list if you'd like, Steve. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Rune's Rule: If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
