[Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-21 Thread Chris Mason
I have downloaded the software on two different cd's. Neither will boot the
machine nor can I get the files to do anything in windows xp. Help!!

 

cm

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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-22 Thread Chris Mason
Kirk,

Thanks for the help. I have the files made onto the cd correctly now.I
think. When I put in the cd the ubuntu image comes up and it says launching
browser, after about 20sec. it just goes away and nothing. If I boot from
the cd, a blank screen comes up and just stays there. So still not in
business. Let me know what you think.

Thank you,

Chris Mason



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Hello Chris, I assume you downloaded an .iso file? This file is an image
of the CD that you want. Many times when you create a CD, the CD burning
software just copies the file to the CD as a file. What is needed is for
the CD burning software to be told to use the .iso to create the new
(boot-able) CD from the information within the .iso file. If you look at
a directory of your new disk and only see one .iso file, then you need
to create another CD using the "create CD from an image file" feature of
your CD burning software.

This link might get you started:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BurnIsoImage

Kirk Wallace
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On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 13:01 -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> I have downloaded the software on two different cd's. Neither will
> boot the machine nor can I get the files to do anything in windows xp.
> Help!!
> cm




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[Emc-users] help

2007-08-22 Thread Chris Mason
To all,

 

I have downloaded the live cd successfully..according to the mdsum check and
everything I've seen on the help pages. The cd will not boot, it only gives
me a blank screen. If I load the cd while the pc is running I get an ubuntu
screen that says launching browser and then goes away. I have tried loading
on several cd's and on two different pc's and get the same results. Can
anyone help me??

 

Thank you,

 

Chris Mason

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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
Kirk,

I now have a cd that works. It boots on one pc but not the one I want to use
it on. The problematic pc just goes to a blank screen as soon as the boot
sequence starts. I have formatted the hard drive on this pc and it was
having registry problems before...windows xp. So my problem is specific to
this pc. Any suggestions?

cm

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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:39 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

Hello Chris, I assume you downloaded an .iso file? This file is an image
of the CD that you want. Many times when you create a CD, the CD burning
software just copies the file to the CD as a file. What is needed is for
the CD burning software to be told to use the .iso to create the new
(boot-able) CD from the information within the .iso file. If you look at
a directory of your new disk and only see one .iso file, then you need
to create another CD using the "create CD from an image file" feature of
your CD burning software.

This link might get you started:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BurnIsoImage

Kirk Wallace
~~
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 13:01 -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> I have downloaded the software on two different cd's. Neither will
> boot the machine nor can I get the files to do anything in windows xp.
> Help!!
> cm




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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
The ubuntu logo does not show up. The pc has over 600mb of RAM and is
running two 500mhz intels. It boots windows xp disk w/no problems. I think
bill gates doesn't want me to switch.

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"Chris Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I now have a cd that works. It boots on one pc but not the one I want to
use
> it on. The problematic pc just goes to a blank screen as soon as the boot
> sequence starts. I have formatted the hard drive on this pc and it was
> having registry problems before...windows xp. So my problem is specific to
> this pc. Any suggestions?

Does the problematic computer show you the Ubuntu logo and give you the
menu with the "Start or Install" option at the top?

How much RAM does the problematic computer have?

Does the CD drive light keep blinking after the screen goes blank?  If so
it's probably booting slowly, let it run for a while (10 or 15 minutes)
and see if it finishes.


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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
I didn't get any e-mail yesterday so I don't have the options from kirk. I
will try what you said here tonight.

cm

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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

Chris Mason wrote:

>Kirk,
>
>I now have a cd that works. It boots on one pc but not the one I want to
use
>it on. The problematic pc just goes to a blank screen as soon as the boot
>sequence starts. I have formatted the hard drive on this pc and it was
>having registry problems before...windows xp. So my problem is specific to
>this pc. Any suggestions?
>  
>
There are a couple of options:
1) I think F4 is "Select Video Mode" or similar.  Hit that, choose 
640x480 or 800x600, and boot.  If that doesn't work, try:
2) Hit F3 or F6 for "advanced options" (or similar), which will let you 
edit the kernel boot parameters.  On this line will be an option called 
"splash" - change this to "nosplash", or add "nosplash" if "splash" 
isn't there (don't use quotes anywhere, of course).  This is also where 
you would add the options Kirk was talking about - noacpi, noapic, 
nolaipc, ...

Hope this helps
- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
I'll have to get back to you w/that info.   What's smp?

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Chris Mason wrote:

>The ubuntu logo does not show up. The pc has over 600mb of RAM and is
>running two 500mhz intels. It boots windows xp disk w/no problems. I think
>bill gates doesn't want me to switch.
>  
>
Heh - that reminds me.  I don't think anyone has asked what your 
hardware is :)

I see now that it's an SMP machine.  Could you fill us in on the HD, 
CD-ROM, chipset, CPU type (looks like P3 to me), video controller chip, etc?

Thanks
- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
Can you recommend a low level (downloadable) program for cleaning the disk.
I'd rather not swap disks around and all that if I can avoid it. I have a
feeling that you are right and windows somehow left some crap on the system
that I can't seem to shake. 

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Chris,

How about putting the hard drive from the bad machine into the good 
machine and trying to install onto it there? The other thing would be to 
get hold of a low level disk repair program and run it on the disk from 
the suspect machine. If you install the Linux as the only OS on the 
machine it should reformat the whole disk and probably get rid of any 
problems generated on there by windoze.

-- 
Best wishes,

Ian

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Sheffield  UK

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in practice..."


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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
When the pc first starts to boot (black screen/white letters), it
acknowledges that the cd is in and seems to be reading it (some verbage that
I don't remember but it seems to know linux is in there). Right after this
is when the ubuntu screen appears on the working pc.this is when the
screen goes blank on the target pc.by the way,the blank screen seems to
have a brown hue...not a totally black screen. The bios has several
options to boot fromtwo of the options begin w/cdrom and are followed by
other drives.it gives a sequence of drives to boot from. 

cm

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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

Chris Mason wrote:

>Can you recommend a low level (downloadable) program for cleaning the disk.
>I'd rather not swap disks around and all that if I can avoid it. I have a
>feeling that you are right and windows somehow left some crap on the system
>that I can't seem to shake. 
>  
>
I'm sure that's not the problem, with one possible exception.

Since you don't get any video from early in the boot sequence, this has 
nothing to do with what's on disk.  I suspect you'd get the same result 
with no hard disk in the machine.

You said "The problematic pc just goes to a blank screen as soon as the 
boot sequence starts."

Does that mean that you see the CD boot menu giving you various options 
(boot Ubuntu, boot in safe graphics mode, run memtest, etc), or does it 
not even show you that?  If you don't get the boot menu from the CD, 
then I'd just double-check that the BIOS is set to boot from CD *before* 
hard disk.  Older BIOSes were'nt very good at going on to other boot 
options if the chosen boot media didn't work.  The reason you'd have the 
blank screen would be that the partition table (which is probably still 
valid) would still be set to boot from the first partition, but there's 
nothing there to boot.  This situation should result in an error, but 
who knows.

A longshot, but I thought I'd mention it :)

- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
I'm fairly sure the video card is an oxygen. The system was built for
cad/cam several years ago but is still very fast for what I use it for. 

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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

OK.

It now sounds to me like the video card is some extremely strange beast 
(at least relative to the Linux world :) ), or something like the 
multiprocessor thing is causing issues.

I'll be interested in seeing the hardware specs wheen you get them 
later.  I think you may need to install from either the stock Ubuntu CD 
or the alternate install CD.  There are instructions on this wiki page 
for installing EMC2 on standard Ubuntu 6.06:
<http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#On_Ubuntu_5_10_
or_6_06_using_precompiled_EMC2_packages>
That install process should work, though it will be a little harder (and 
requires the computer to be connected to the internet).

- Steve

Chris Mason wrote:

>When the pc first starts to boot (black screen/white letters), it
>acknowledges that the cd is in and seems to be reading it (some verbage
that
>I don't remember but it seems to know linux is in there). Right after this
>is when the ubuntu screen appears on the working pc.this is when the
>screen goes blank on the target pc.by the way,the blank screen seems to
>have a brown hue...not a totally black screen. The bios has several
>options to boot fromtwo of the options begin w/cdrom and are followed
by
>other drives.it gives a sequence of drives to boot from. 
>
>cm
>
>-Original Message-
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Wille
>Padnos
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:17 PM
>To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>Subject: Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu
>
>Chris Mason wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Can you recommend a low level (downloadable) program for cleaning the
disk.
>>I'd rather not swap disks around and all that if I can avoid it. I have a
>>feeling that you are right and windows somehow left some crap on the
system
>>that I can't seem to shake. 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>I'm sure that's not the problem, with one possible exception.
>
>Since you don't get any video from early in the boot sequence, this has 
>nothing to do with what's on disk.  I suspect you'd get the same result 
>with no hard disk in the machine.
>
>You said "The problematic pc just goes to a blank screen as soon as the 
>boot sequence starts."
>
>Does that mean that you see the CD boot menu giving you various options 
>(boot Ubuntu, boot in safe graphics mode, run memtest, etc), or does it 
>not even show you that?  If you don't get the boot menu from the CD, 
>then I'd just double-check that the BIOS is set to boot from CD *before* 
>hard disk.  Older BIOSes were'nt very good at going on to other boot 
>options if the chosen boot media didn't work.  The reason you'd have the 
>blank screen would be that the partition table (which is probably still 
>valid) would still be set to boot from the first partition, but there's 
>nothing there to boot.  This situation should result in an error, but 
>who knows.
>
>A longshot, but I thought I'd mention it :)
>
>- Steve
>
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Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
How about switching out the video card?

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Chris Mason wrote:

>I'm fairly sure the video card is an oxygen. The system was built for
>cad/cam several years ago but is still very fast for what I use it for. 
>  
>
It should work in the VESA/BIOS mode the boot CD uses, but it may not.  
I don't think 3DLabs was ever very good with Linux drivers, so you may 
be out of luck there.

CAD cards (especially ones that are only expected to work under Windows) 
often don't implement much of the VESA spec - I guess they figure the 
card will be put in text mode for the BIOS, the 320x200 mode Windows 
shows during boot, then some high resolution driver-managed mode.  
Anything else would be superfluous.

- Steve


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[Emc-users] more problems

2007-08-28 Thread Chris Mason
Ok guys,

 

I changed out the video card and I now have a working linux box..cool. Now,
I need to use windows software on it. I tried loading WINE and when I got to
the part where I put my password in, it will not let me type in my password.
There is a blinking cursor and I can use the mouse but no typing. I'm
assuming it wants my ubuntu password. Suggestions anyone??

 

 

cm

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Re: [Emc-users] more problems

2007-08-28 Thread Chris Mason
Hey Kirk,

EMC is actually a back burner project for me right now. I have a large
contouring router/mill and am running acromill on it. Too busy to change
that over right now but I'd like to have a gameplan w/emc when/if my control
card craps out and I'd like to go to 5-axis at some point with that machine.


I need linux to run some of my cad/cam/engineering apps that are windows
programs. I am using my pc at home to test out linux as I have zero
experience with it.however, I'm tired of windows and not happy with the
direction they are heading and want to get away from it.but I need to be
able to run my windows software. 

cm

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On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:44 -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> Ok guys,
> 
>  
> 
> I changed out the video card and I now have a working linux box..cool.
> Now, I need to use windows software on it. 

I hope you don't mind me asking why you need Windows. I have Rutex servo
amps that use Windows tuning software, but I plug in a spare Windows
boot hard drive for that.

> I tried loading WINE and when I got to the part where I put my
> password in, it will not let me type in my password. There is a
> blinking cursor and I can use the mouse but no typing. I'm assuming it
> wants my ubuntu password. Suggestions anyone??
> 

> cm

I wonder, is there a hidden dialog box needing attention? The only Ubuntu 
password I use is the normal user password, even to become root. (I use 
"sudo su -" in a terminal to become root, by the way.) Can you get to 
another terminal by Control-Alt-F2, log in and "ps ax" to see what the 
computer is trying to do?

I would put in a vote to suggest that you keep your EMC computer as lean
as possible. For me, it helps me stay focused on what's really
important. I have a couple EMC only computers, so that I can break one
and still have one to use. 

Good luck.

Kirk Wallace


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