Re: [-empyre-] Hactivating Design

2009-11-21 Thread nicholas knouf
Brooke, Ricardo, and everyone,

Thanks for your interesting points regarding notions of design,
designing, and designers.  This has also been on my mind recently,
especially as a result of my position within a traditional
human-computer interaction program.  Here there is no questioning the
role of the designer: the designer is to be subservient to the needs
of the user, where the user is defined as that constructed by
corporations and the market.  Researchers actively seek out
relationships with corporate sponsors and corporate research labs.  As a
result, there is no discussion regarding broader societal issues,
excepting where they intersect with present corporate priorities, as in
the rhetoric of sustainability---and of course there the limits of the
conversation are already set, again by the market.

This situation caused me to write a polemical paper for the main
conference in HCI, ACM SIGCHI, called HCI for the Real World
(http://zeitkunst.org/publications/hci-real-world).  In it, and this is
the main point of my post, I draw heavily on on the work of Victor
Papanek, an industrial designer who wrote, for me, a very influential
book originally published in 1970 entitled _Design for the Real World_.
 He focuses on the role of the designer, not only in the composition of
the products made, but prior to that, in the very selection of projects
to work on:

...I must agree that the designer bears a responsibility for the way
the products he designs are received at the market place. But this is
still a narrow and parochial view. The designer’s responsibility must go
far beyond these considerations. His social and moral judgment must be
brought into place long before he begins to design, since he has to make
a judgment, and a prior judgment at that, as to whether the products he
is asked to design or redesign merit his attention at all. In other
words, will his design be on the side of the social good or not (66).

This is one of the key, but unasked, questions within HCI.  There is a
general agreement on the relationship of HCI to corporations, the
market, and users, yet there is no questioning of the very assumptions
that underlie that agreement, and thus what are the important problems
that students and faculty spend their time on.  Of course there are
complicated interrelationships here between funding agencies,
professional societies, methods of reward, the system of publication (in
HCI, emphasis on yearly conference papers versus less-frequent, but more
in-depth, journal articles or monographs), and so on.  Yet these are the
very conditions that should be at the forefront of debate, especially in
a discipline that is relatively young like HCI---but they are not.

Returning to someone like Papanek, writing a similar polemic for
industrial design and at the height of an earlier ecological movement,
is key to foreground the continuities between different aspects of
design, different time periods...and to suggest transdisciplinary
connections.  Design can be more than ICT for development, more than
sustainable consumerism, but only if designers take responsibility for
their choices of what to research and what to design (and where they can
have a decent amount of control over that choice, such as in the
academy), and if they instill in their students a similar ethic.
Designers in academia would have to push against the notion that they
have to teach their students marketable skills.  (And, I would argue,
that if the designers really wanted to teach skills that would improve
the bottom line of companies they would allow for much more creative
activity on the part of their student-designers, but that is the topic
for a longer post on the interrelationship of interrelationship of
contemporary cognitive capitalism and modern technological
development.)  Undertaking projects such as Brooke's hactivating
design and undesigning and Ricardo's garageScience opens up spaces
to address these questions and suggest possible alternatives.

Nevertheless, I want to additionally point to the ways in which
Papanek's project is an explicit critique and condemnation of
contemporary (both then and now) processes of consumerist capitalism.
Thus this approach is not to encourage design to necessarily create new,
more hackable products, but rather to question the very system of
consumption and the manufacture of desire that creates a system of
products.  This is the potentially radical implications of following
in the wake of Papanek: of using design not to create a more just
capitalism, but rather to create the conditions of possibility of real
alternatives through an engagement and reconfiguration of our material
world, of understanding how design methodology can construct different
ontological realities (following the work of someone like John Law in
_After Method_) with different political implications.

nick


Ricardo Dominguez wrote:
 Hola all and Brooke,
 
 I really enjoyed undesigning poster Brooke and it would be 

Re: [-empyre-] Demand Nothing, Occupy Everything?

2009-11-21 Thread nicholas knouf
And on this point, a text by a group at Berkeley on The Necrosocial:

http://anticapitalprojects.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/the-necrosocial/

Their interrogation of the role of high theory, capital, and the
University qua Institution is extremely cogent at this moment.

nick



Marco Deseriis wrote:
 Hi Micha,
 
 yes, thank you for sharing those precious links.
 
 At UCSD, very few students, faculty and staff that I've talked to knew
 about or support the strike do. Myself and a handful of other faculty,
 staff and students are striking, but is the very idea of a strike not
 viral but more based in monolothic constituencies and factory models
 of labor? 
 No, I just think that after 3-4 decades of resting on dreams of unabated 
 growth Americans (and Californians in particular) need to be re-educated 
 and reawakened as to what it means to lose one's job, as to what it 
 means to fight for it, and what it means to risk of losing your job for 
 defending it. So thank you for taking on this rather humongous task ;-)
 
 To me it is not a matter of virality but of culture. People in Latin 
 America, Asia, Europe and all over the world keep going on strike for 
 defending their jobs, demanding higher wages, security on the workplace, 
 etc. It is only in this country that three decades of brainwashing have 
 led to the obliteration of historic memory (the cancellation of May1st 
 being the most notable example), and to the perception that going on 
 strike is somehow out of fashion.
 
 In actual fact, there exists a growing global movement to defend public 
 education, and to build an entirely different model of knowledge 
 sharing. You are probably familiar with this site:
 
 http://www.edu-factory.org
 
 which reports the news of 15 arrests at UCLA:
 
 http://www.edu-factory.org/edu15/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=240:students-arrested-at-uclacatid=34:strugglesItemid=53
 
 and whose picture eloquently show the response of public authorities to 
 this growing mobilization.
 
 Perhaps the spreading occupations are more viral? I wonder
 about this as I start going on strike tomorrow and join actions at
 UCSD...

   
 Well, it is not up to me to say that strikes and occupations are just 
 two sides of the same coin.
 
 
 
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Re: [-empyre-] Demand Nothing, Occupy Everything? California is burning ....

2009-11-21 Thread Christiane Robbins

Hi Marco, Micha, everyone


The irony implicit in your statement re: this situation begs for  
further explication + analysis:



It is only in this country that three decades of brainwashing have
led to the obliteration of historic memory (the cancellation of May1st
being the most notable example), and to the perception that going on

strike is somehow out of fashion.


And ... to add to the circulating narratives and links -

I found it curious that the Chronicle for HE published this -

http://chronicle.com/blogPost/California-Is-Burning/8915/?sid=atutm_source=atutm_medium=en


Chris

On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Marco Deseriis wrote:


Hi Micha,

yes, thank you for sharing those precious links.

At UCSD, very few students, faculty and staff that I've talked to  
knew
about or support the strike do. Myself and a handful of other  
faculty,

staff and students are striking, but is the very idea of a strike not
viral but more based in monolothic constituencies and factory models
of labor?
No, I just think that after 3-4 decades of resting on dreams of  
unabated
growth Americans (and Californians in particular) need to be re- 
educated

and reawakened as to what it means to lose one's job, as to what it
means to fight for it, and what it means to risk of losing your job  
for
defending it. So thank you for taking on this rather humongous  
task ;-)


To me it is not a matter of virality but of culture. People in Latin
America, Asia, Europe and all over the world keep going on strike for
defending their jobs, demanding higher wages, security on the  
workplace,
etc. It is only in this country that three decades of brainwashing  
have

led to the obliteration of historic memory (the cancellation of May1st
being the most notable example), and to the perception that going on
strike is somehow out of fashion.

In actual fact, there exists a growing global movement to defend  
public

education, and to build an entirely different model of knowledge
sharing. You are probably familiar with this site:

http://www.edu-factory.org

which reports the news of 15 arrests at UCLA:

http://www.edu-factory.org/edu15/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=240:students-arrested-at-uclacatid=34:strugglesItemid=53

and whose picture eloquently show the response of public authorities  
to

this growing mobilization.


Perhaps the spreading occupations are more viral? I wonder
about this as I start going on strike tomorrow and join actions at
UCSD...



Well, it is not up to me to say that strikes and occupations are just
two sides of the same coin.



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Re: [-empyre-] Demand Nothing, Occupy Everything? California is burning ....

2009-11-21 Thread Ashley Ferro-Murray
Good morning from Berkeley,

I wasn't participating in yesterday's discussion about viral networks/UC
protests because I was standing in the rain with close to 2,000 Berkeley
protesters while we waited outside of Wheeler Hall as friends and colleagues
occupied the building. So, please forgive me if I am returning to an already
closed conversation, but allow me to indulge in a reflection on yesterday's
successful and widespread strike activities.

At Berkeley there are four groups representing different populations of the
campus. As far as I know, there are two faculty groups, one graduate student
group and one undergraduate group. With representatives from each group
serving on all other committees, these four groups are in close
communication and have used what is being referred to here as grassroots
activism to successfully hold a 5,000 person walk-out in September, several
events in October and a three day strike this week. Starting from the four
groups email is used to communicate with departmental representatives who
then communicate with departments. Whether organization is departmental,
building wide, or committee based, the word hasn't stopped there.

The fact that the students involved in yesterday's building occupation were
communicating with fellow organizers and activists via email, twitter and
facebook seems significant. Of course there are debates regarding whether or
not viral networks and online activism have replaced the need for physical
protest. It is, after all, easier to sign an online petition (of which there
have been many connected to the UC Strikes) than it is steer clear of office
resources for three days, or stand in the rain for hours on end. I am sure
that we are all well aware of examples supporting both sides of that
argument. Still, twitter and facebook updates kept a good deal of protesters
mobilized yesterday. Consistent updates from the inside of Wheeler assured a
wet crowd that their support was indeed necessary, building occupiers' view
from the top floors of Wheeler Hall were shared through twitter accounts to
help students spread evenly around the building to block police movement,
and facebook updates alerted crowds immediately when arrests were taking
place and how to best continue supporting the occupation efforts.

Just like anything else it seems that they way a viral network is organized
and implemented corresponds directly to its efficacy. I think here of Zach's
proposed GRID project. The  movement from one GRID to the next produces new
GRIDs. It is the movement between networks that produces the change. It
seems that in the case of the UC protests the efficacy of the system depends
on successful movements between different networks. It is the movements
between online networks such as email lists to online petitions, between
different physical networks such as departmental meetings to banners hanging
outside of buildings, and between online and physical networks such as
buildings occupiers to their twitter followers. This is what has felt like
the viral aspect of the system.

In solidarity,
Ashley



On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Christiane Robbins c...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Hi Marco, Micha, everyone


 The irony implicit in your statement re: this situation begs for further
 explication + analysis:

 It is only in this country that three decades of brainwashing have
 led to the obliteration of historic memory (the cancellation of May1st
 being the most notable example), and to the perception that going on

 strike is somehow out of fashion.


 And ... to add to the circulating narratives and links -

 I found it curious that the Chronicle for HE published this -


 http://chronicle.com/blogPost/California-Is-Burning/8915/?sid=atutm_source=atutm_medium=en


 Chris

 On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Marco Deseriis wrote:

 Hi Micha,

 yes, thank you for sharing those precious links.

 At UCSD, very few students, faculty and staff that I've talked to knew

 about or support the strike do. Myself and a handful of other faculty,

 staff and students are striking, but is the very idea of a strike not

 viral but more based in monolothic constituencies and factory models

 of labor?

 No, I just think that after 3-4 decades of resting on dreams of unabated
 growth Americans (and Californians in particular) need to be re-educated
 and reawakened as to what it means to lose one's job, as to what it
 means to fight for it, and what it means to risk of losing your job for
 defending it. So thank you for taking on this rather humongous task ;-)

 To me it is not a matter of virality but of culture. People in Latin
 America, Asia, Europe and all over the world keep going on strike for
 defending their jobs, demanding higher wages, security on the workplace,
 etc. It is only in this country that three decades of brainwashing have
 led to the obliteration of historic memory (the cancellation of May1st
 being the most notable example), and to the perception that going on
 

Re: [-empyre-] Demand Nothing, Occupy Everything?

2009-11-21 Thread David Chirot
Thank you to everyone for the comments and news on the strikes on the UC
campuses.
For the last several years, besides attending live events here in Milwaukee,
I've found that increasingly effective is the online sharing and signing of
petitions; many of these work, or, beginning by spreading slowly through
time, have and of create generative updated versions of the petitions and
gain ever more force as more and more people see that they are actually
effective and begin signing themselves.



I think since Reagan’s first term and almost first action as
president—smashing the air controllers’ union—unions have become not just
physically badly damaged in the USA, but the word itself has been distorted
thro8ugh nonstop propaganda and become now a “dirty” word  and concept for a
great many persons.  The back and forth supporting movement of smashing
unions physically and economically—by physically I mean subversion by firing
union workers and hiring much cheaper and less trained non union
workers—this movement is supported at the same time by the attack on the
language which makes unions appealing and strong sounding and converting the
word into something smacking of both the ridiculous and the defeatist,
something anachronistic and “a failure.”  “Everyone knows they don’t
work-=-just look how they are disappearing!”  The words are supported by the
actions and ice vers.



I mentioned ridicule—one of the most effective tactics that Regan introduced
was ridicule and cerataintn tones of voice which are like patronizing stabs
in the back masked by a nice paternalist flashing Hollywood teeth.  Since
Reagan began this trend, ridicule has increasingly been used to drive out of
“being with it” just about any “lefty” term you can think of.


(For example one day i came back rfrom work, turned on the news and found
Reagan beeing asked about the musrooming budget deficit--

what did mr president think of this--

was he worried abt it?

Reagan flashed his warm patronizing smile and said

i think the budget deficit is big enough to take care of itself--don't
you?--)



Another factor has been that since 9/11 I’ve noticed that academics as well
as many others in different jobs and work sectors—are afraid to sing
petitions because it might affect their jobs.  One might be easily gotten
rid of by a petition being used to show that Professor or student so –and-so
is a “Jihad sympathizer” or “critical of Israel” or critical of the US
policies aboard whether they be torture, rendition flights, drone bombings,
support of Apartheid, and so forth.



Now that the economic crises has made jobs even more precious, one may see
even more of a drop off of certain sectors being willing to risk anything by
singing a petition which can be pulled out and used as “evidence” at any
time.



The flipside of the viral techniques has been demontsrated by the Israeli
State’s policy announced first last November and then stated more firmly and
with greater scope in February of this year by then Foreign Minister tip
Livni.  This policy is what Minister Livni called “an assault” on Facebook
my space you tube, the blogosphere –an assault on any sites which seem to be
“critical of Israel” or remotely sympathetic to the Palestinian people’s
cause.  The idea is to wipe out such sites, or, to censor their statements,
videos, and fotos and replace them with heavily pro-Israeli images, slogans,
propaganda, posters and altered maps.



This is viral “striking’ in the “assault” sense of the term for sure—and
conducted by a State with the fourth largest military in the world to back
it up if need be.  The flip side of this tactic is to also cut off the
electricity of the “other side’ so that they cannot conduct any sort of
retaliatory campaign of their own.



Increasing an anti-viral tactic has been just this—to turn off, cut off,
bomb out, the electricity grids of large areas, and in this “deleted zone”
undertake step two of the “extinguishing of light” which is the mass
slaughter of civilians when they are “blacked out” from the gaze of the
world.



Rwanda was the first such example undertaken—before the massacres, the area
designated for them was stripped of any communication with the outside
world. All electronic contacts were severed, al telephone grids, electric
grids etc were chopped apart and then in the deleted zones, the human beings
were chopped down and deleted from existence on the ground.  This tactic has
been used to varying degrees in the former Yugoslavia, Iraq and Lebanon and
Palestine, specifically Gaza, most recently to a greater extent than ever
during the several years now siege by the assaults on the ground and
electronically via deletion in January of this year.



In the USA, this tact has been and is being used against the American
Indians on the great majority of extremely poor rezervations.  The living
conditions and medical care of the American Indians is now tied with Haiti
as the worst in the Western hemisphere.



One 

Re: [-empyre-] Hactivating Design

2009-11-21 Thread naxsmash
Wow, great to mention Victor Papanek. I knew him back when I was a  
student at the Kansas city art institute.  I remember his bouyant  
personality and very dry wit.  We have his little book -- containing  
really the seeds of everything important about design as a generative  
radical discipline.  Terry and I try to teach from this ground every  
day.  It is fantastic to learn how Brooke is taking this on.. On the  
level of pragmatics much like Papanek.


Exciting discussion

Christina

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:38 PM, nicholas knouf na...@cornell.edu wrote:

 Brooke, Ricardo, and everyone,

 Thanks for your interesting points regarding notions of design,
 designing, and designers.  This has also been on my mind recently,
 especially as a result of my position within a traditional
 human-computer interaction program.  Here there is no questioning the
 role of the designer: the designer is to be subservient to the needs
 of the user, where the user is defined as that constructed by
 corporations and the market.  Researchers actively seek out
 relationships with corporate sponsors and corporate research labs.   
 As a
 result, there is no discussion regarding broader societal issues,
 excepting where they intersect with present corporate priorities, as  
 in
 the rhetoric of sustainability---and of course there the limits of  
 the
 conversation are already set, again by the market.

 This situation caused me to write a polemical paper for the main
 conference in HCI, ACM SIGCHI, called HCI for the Real World
 (http://zeitkunst.org/publications/hci-real-world).  In it, and this  
 is
 the main point of my post, I draw heavily on on the work of Victor
 Papanek, an industrial designer who wrote, for me, a very influential
 book originally published in 1970 entitled _Design for the Real  
 World_.
 He focuses on the role of the designer, not only in the composition of
 the products made, but prior to that, in the very selection of  
 projects
 to work on:

 ...I must agree that the designer bears a responsibility for the way
 the products he designs are received at the market place. But this is
 still a narrow and parochial view. The designer’s responsibility mus 
 t go
 far beyond these considerations. His social and moral judgment must be
 brought into place long before he begins to design, since he has to  
 make
 a judgment, and a prior judgment at that, as to whether the products  
 he
 is asked to design or redesign merit his attention at all. In other
 words, will his design be on the side of the social good or not (66).

 This is one of the key, but unasked, questions within HCI.  There is a
 general agreement on the relationship of HCI to corporations, the
 market, and users, yet there is no questioning of the very  
 assumptions
 that underlie that agreement, and thus what are the important problems
 that students and faculty spend their time on.  Of course there are
 complicated interrelationships here between funding agencies,
 professional societies, methods of reward, the system of publication  
 (in
 HCI, emphasis on yearly conference papers versus less-frequent, but  
 more
 in-depth, journal articles or monographs), and so on.  Yet these are  
 the
 very conditions that should be at the forefront of debate,  
 especially in
 a discipline that is relatively young like HCI---but they are not.

 Returning to someone like Papanek, writing a similar polemic for
 industrial design and at the height of an earlier ecological  
 movement,
 is key to foreground the continuities between different aspects of
 design, different time periods...and to suggest transdisciplinary
 connections.  Design can be more than ICT for development, more than
 sustainable consumerism, but only if designers take responsibility  
 for
 their choices of what to research and what to design (and where they  
 can
 have a decent amount of control over that choice, such as in the
 academy), and if they instill in their students a similar ethic.
 Designers in academia would have to push against the notion that they
 have to teach their students marketable skills.  (And, I would  
 argue,
 that if the designers really wanted to teach skills that would improve
 the bottom line of companies they would allow for much more creative
 activity on the part of their student-designers, but that is the topic
 for a longer post on the interrelationship of interrelationship of
 contemporary cognitive capitalism and modern technological
 development.)  Undertaking projects such as Brooke's hactivating
 design and undesigning and Ricardo's garageScience opens up  
 spaces
 to address these questions and suggest possible alternatives.

 Nevertheless, I want to additionally point to the ways in which
 Papanek's project is an explicit critique and condemnation of
 contemporary (both then and now) processes of consumerist capitalism.
 Thus this approach is not to encourage design to necessarily create  
 new,
 more hackable 

Re: [-empyre-] Demand Nothing, Occupy Everything?

2009-11-21 Thread micha cardenas / azdel slade
I think its curious how all of these websites, like the Tarnac 9, the
invisible committee calling for uc occupations and the necrosocial all
have the same wordpress theme...


2009/11/20 nicholas knouf na...@cornell.edu:
 And on this point, a text by a group at Berkeley on The Necrosocial:

 http://anticapitalprojects.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/the-necrosocial/

 Their interrogation of the role of high theory, capital, and the
 University qua Institution is extremely cogent at this moment.

 nick



 Marco Deseriis wrote:
 Hi Micha,

 yes, thank you for sharing those precious links.

 At UCSD, very few students, faculty and staff that I've talked to knew
 about or support the strike do. Myself and a handful of other faculty,
 staff and students are striking, but is the very idea of a strike not
 viral but more based in monolothic constituencies and factory models
 of labor?
 No, I just think that after 3-4 decades of resting on dreams of unabated
 growth Americans (and Californians in particular) need to be re-educated
 and reawakened as to what it means to lose one's job, as to what it
 means to fight for it, and what it means to risk of losing your job for
 defending it. So thank you for taking on this rather humongous task ;-)

 To me it is not a matter of virality but of culture. People in Latin
 America, Asia, Europe and all over the world keep going on strike for
 defending their jobs, demanding higher wages, security on the workplace,
 etc. It is only in this country that three decades of brainwashing have
 led to the obliteration of historic memory (the cancellation of May1st
 being the most notable example), and to the perception that going on
 strike is somehow out of fashion.

 In actual fact, there exists a growing global movement to defend public
 education, and to build an entirely different model of knowledge
 sharing. You are probably familiar with this site:

 http://www.edu-factory.org

 which reports the news of 15 arrests at UCLA:

 http://www.edu-factory.org/edu15/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=240:students-arrested-at-uclacatid=34:strugglesItemid=53

 and whose picture eloquently show the response of public authorities to
 this growing mobilization.

 Perhaps the spreading occupations are more viral? I wonder
 about this as I start going on strike tomorrow and join actions at
 UCSD...


 Well, it is not up to me to say that strikes and occupations are just
 two sides of the same coin.



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Re: [-empyre-] Hactivating Design

2009-11-21 Thread Kevin Hamilton
Glad to see the HCI discussion come up here, and in the context of  
questions about Design in education. Perhaps I'm just pessimistic, but  
I don't think we have long before today's New Media programs are  
squeezed out of fine arts curricula by  HCI and its cousins in  
Industrial Design and Graphic Design. HCI is hard to distinguish for  
many an upper-level administrator from the Digital Media / New Media  
programs born in the last ten years. The confusion is understandable  
from a distance, as HCI borrows increasingly from New Media and  
Computer Arts for methods, media, and even critical language - all to  
the consumerist ends outlined by Nick.

It's easy for students to distinguish between the two, however, given  
the easy product tie-ins of HCI and other design education. Much  
current design education is, as Nick implies, essentially an exercise  
in meta-shopping. (Who's a better shopper than the one who hangs  
around the factory line?) I fully expect that the sort of hires that  
resulted in our current, even mildly-critical digital arts programs  
will not come again, except perhaps for in the most elite and high- 
price-tag programs of the world.

So what are we to do, if we care about exercising a role as educators  
and researchers beyond the provision of politicized recess for  
students who won't need to work for a living after school?

1 - Make hay (or raise Cain?) while the sun shines - this seems to be  
the bang.lab approach, as far as I can tell ( I can't imagine that  
Calit2 will support these projects for long-term? If so, then great!)  
T.A.Z., tactics over strategies, all that temporary stuff is always  
possible, and maybe the only way. (I also think here of Wodizcko,  
trained as an Industrial Designer, but taking Papandek's ideas and  
moving right out of that field in the 60s/70s.)

2 - Prepare for the inevitable change in our institutional waters, by  
acquainting ourselves with the methods of our future partners/bosses/ 
overlords, making ready to live in their world as critical members who  
ask tough, informed questions.

3 - Identify our current work as preservable, something to be  
protected in the name of knowledge, like the older arts of traditional  
glass and ceramics.

4 - Depart from the arts and sciences altogether, to identify  
ourselves with media studies in the humanities. (Christiane, can you  
speak to this option?) Bank on the whole practice-based research  
trend, keeping a wary eye on the Social Sciences as possible,  
occasional, collaborator.

I'm trying a little bit of all these things myself, with increasing  
hope for option #4. In addition to skepticism about the consumerist  
ends of design and arts education, I'm also looking to steer clear of  
the technocratic, ahistorical progress machine of modern science  
(sustainability as economic catalyst).

Any thoughts? Maybe a public listserv isn't the safest place to have  
this conversation?

Kevin Hamilton



On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:38 PM, nicholas knouf wrote:

 Brooke, Ricardo, and everyone,

 Thanks for your interesting points regarding notions of design,
 designing, and designers.  This has also been on my mind recently,
 especially as a result of my position within a traditional
 human-computer interaction program.  Here there is no questioning the
 role of the designer: the designer is to be subservient to the needs
 of the user, where the user is defined as that constructed by
 corporations and the market.  Researchers actively seek out
 relationships with corporate sponsors and corporate research labs.   
 As a
 result, there is no discussion regarding broader societal issues,
 excepting where they intersect with present corporate priorities, as  
 in
 the rhetoric of sustainability---and of course there the limits of  
 the
 conversation are already set, again by the market.

 This situation caused me to write a polemical paper for the main
 conference in HCI, ACM SIGCHI, called HCI for the Real World
 (http://zeitkunst.org/publications/hci-real-world).  In it, and this  
 is
 the main point of my post, I draw heavily on on the work of Victor
 Papanek, an industrial designer who wrote, for me, a very influential
 book originally published in 1970 entitled _Design for the Real  
 World_.
 He focuses on the role of the designer, not only in the composition of
 the products made, but prior to that, in the very selection of  
 projects
 to work on:

 ...I must agree that the designer bears a responsibility for the way
 the products he designs are received at the market place. But this is
 still a narrow and parochial view. The designer’s responsibility  
 must go
 far beyond these considerations. His social and moral judgment must be
 brought into place long before he begins to design, since he has to  
 make
 a judgment, and a prior judgment at that, as to whether the products  
 he
 is asked to design or redesign merit his attention at all. In other
 words, will his design be on the 

Re: [-empyre-] Hactivating Design

2009-11-21 Thread Renate Ferro
Dear Kevin, Ricardo, Nick and Brooke,

I think we are okay to talk about this stuff online.  I'm hoping those in
Administrative posts will use our think tank as a way to enlighten
themselves about other alternatives.  For me option 4 is mighty tempting
but structurally within many Visual Arts departments seems impossible. 
Anyone else have any great ideas?  Renate



 Glad to see the HCI discussion come up here, and in the context of
 questions about Design in education. Perhaps I'm just pessimistic, but
 I don't think we have long before today's New Media programs are
 squeezed out of fine arts curricula by  HCI and its cousins in
 Industrial Design and Graphic Design. HCI is hard to distinguish for
 many an upper-level administrator from the Digital Media / New Media
 programs born in the last ten years. The confusion is understandable
 from a distance, as HCI borrows increasingly from New Media and
 Computer Arts for methods, media, and even critical language - all to
 the consumerist ends outlined by Nick.

 It's easy for students to distinguish between the two, however, given
 the easy product tie-ins of HCI and other design education. Much
 current design education is, as Nick implies, essentially an exercise
 in meta-shopping. (Who's a better shopper than the one who hangs
 around the factory line?) I fully expect that the sort of hires that
 resulted in our current, even mildly-critical digital arts programs
 will not come again, except perhaps for in the most elite and high-
 price-tag programs of the world.

 So what are we to do, if we care about exercising a role as educators
 and researchers beyond the provision of politicized recess for
 students who won't need to work for a living after school?

 1 - Make hay (or raise Cain?) while the sun shines - this seems to be
 the bang.lab approach, as far as I can tell ( I can't imagine that
 Calit2 will support these projects for long-term? If so, then great!)
 T.A.Z., tactics over strategies, all that temporary stuff is always
 possible, and maybe the only way. (I also think here of Wodizcko,
 trained as an Industrial Designer, but taking Papandek's ideas and
 moving right out of that field in the 60s/70s.)

 2 - Prepare for the inevitable change in our institutional waters, by
 acquainting ourselves with the methods of our future partners/bosses/
 overlords, making ready to live in their world as critical members who
 ask tough, informed questions.

 3 - Identify our current work as preservable, something to be
 protected in the name of knowledge, like the older arts of traditional
 glass and ceramics.

 4 - Depart from the arts and sciences altogether, to identify
 ourselves with media studies in the humanities. (Christiane, can you
 speak to this option?) Bank on the whole practice-based research
 trend, keeping a wary eye on the Social Sciences as possible,
 occasional, collaborator.

 I'm trying a little bit of all these things myself, with increasing
 hope for option #4. In addition to skepticism about the consumerist
 ends of design and arts education, I'm also looking to steer clear of
 the technocratic, ahistorical progress machine of modern science
 (sustainability as economic catalyst).

 Any thoughts? Maybe a public listserv isn't the safest place to have
 this conversation?

 Kevin Hamilton



 On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:38 PM, nicholas knouf wrote:

 Brooke, Ricardo, and everyone,

 Thanks for your interesting points regarding notions of design,
 designing, and designers.  This has also been on my mind recently,
 especially as a result of my position within a traditional
 human-computer interaction program.  Here there is no questioning the
 role of the designer: the designer is to be subservient to the needs
 of the user, where the user is defined as that constructed by
 corporations and the market.  Researchers actively seek out
 relationships with corporate sponsors and corporate research labs.
 As a
 result, there is no discussion regarding broader societal issues,
 excepting where they intersect with present corporate priorities, as
 in
 the rhetoric of sustainability---and of course there the limits of
 the
 conversation are already set, again by the market.

 This situation caused me to write a polemical paper for the main
 conference in HCI, ACM SIGCHI, called HCI for the Real World
 (http://zeitkunst.org/publications/hci-real-world).  In it, and this
 is
 the main point of my post, I draw heavily on on the work of Victor
 Papanek, an industrial designer who wrote, for me, a very influential
 book originally published in 1970 entitled _Design for the Real
 World_.
 He focuses on the role of the designer, not only in the composition of
 the products made, but prior to that, in the very selection of
 projects
 to work on:

 ...I must agree that the designer bears a responsibility for the way
 the products he designs are received at the market place. But this is
 still a narrow and parochial view. The designer’s responsibility
 must