Re: Section from "What's New in Fedora 28 Workstation?" article for Fedora Magazine

2018-04-23 Thread Elle O
I totally agree with Allan’s suggestions. I don’t know enough about the
specific project to create a write up from scratch, but if you want any
final copy editing feel free to send it to me.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 1:43 AM Allan Day  wrote:

> Thanks for reaching out about this, Link. I know from experience that
> writing about contentious decisions can be tricky to get right.
>
> Liam R. E. Quin  wrote:
> ...
> > Remember that the only people made happy by removing features generally
> > are developers...
>
> I agree with Liam here. Introducing features that users appreciate as
> "technical debt" is only going to irritate them.
>
> My suggestion would be to:
>
>   1. Start with a more positive, user-centered, narrative: how the
> Nautilus developers are working to improve the experience for users.
> What they've done recently to do that, what they're planning to do.
>   2. The current draft makes the removal sound like an implementation
> failure rather than a technical design question. I think it's
> important to explain it in terms of the intrinsic nature of icons on
> the desktop - it's a very different file browsing experience.
>   3. Stress that the Nautilus developers do care about those who use
> icons on the desktop. Emphasise that alternatives have been
> considered. Argue that the people using those alternatives is a better
> option for them and for everyone as the code base moves forward.
>
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Re: Meeting Minutes - 04/17/2018

2018-04-19 Thread Elle O
My friend is willing to share the China-related stuff among the Beijing
Linux User's Group and maybe in some other tech-related groups in
Bejing/China. Should I just send him what was linked in the previous email,
or does anyone have any else they'd prefer?

Thanks!

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Oliver Propst 
wrote:

> = Meeting on April 17th =
>
> == Attendees ==
>  * Oliver
>  * Michael
>  * Nuritzi
>  * Sri
>
> == Roles ==
>  * Chair: Nuritzi
>  * Secretary: Michael
>  * PM: Sri
>
> == Agenda ==
>  *GNOME in Peru (Nuritzi)
> * GUADEC 2019 call for proposals  (oliverp)
> * Newsitems (oliverp)
> * Possible upcoming Engagement blogs (oliverp)
> * Social Media (oliverp)
>
> == Notes ==
>
> === GNOME in Peru ===
> * We have somebody there (not Ubuntu-Jose) who wants to coordinate 17
> FLISOL events
> * He's asking for stickers and stuff to distribute to various events in
> the country
> * Would cost about $15 if he ships for each event
> * About $300 total just for shipping
> * Will probably cost close to $1000 when it's all said and done
> * FLISOL is in 2 weeks, not much time to get things out
> * Would need stickers to be printed locally
> ACTION: Nuritzi to decide how much we can commit to this initiative and
> then find out what we can do with that: TODO
> ACTION: Michael to ask Ubuntu-Jose to join Gitlab Engagement project to
> become a swag center: TODO
> ACTION: Nuritzi to publish a report of the Q1 spending from Engagement
> budget on the wiki: TODO
>
> === GUADEC 2019 location call for bids (CFB) post ===
> * Created a draft on the gnome blog
> * Sent an email to the board last friday to get more information
> * Question about whether to publish the CFB on gnome.org blog or on the
> mailing list
> * Last year it was on the foundation list and a news item
> * Target post date is April 25th
> ACTION: Nuritzi to establish the deadline for the CFB submissions: TODO
> ACTION: Nuritzi to add conference spending policy to CFB text: TODO
> ACTION: Nuritzi to post CFB to foundation-announce: BLOCKED
> ACTION: Nuritzi to publish CFB post to the website: BLOCKED
>
> === News items ===
> * Gitlab partnership was targetted to be announced late-april
> * https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/gitlabpartnership_announcement
>
> === Upcoming engagements blogs ===
> * Draft for Tanuk's PulseAudio post is ready to publish
> ACTION: Oliver to draf blog post about PulseAudio in Engagement blog for
> review
> ACTION: Oliver to create new PR issues for promoting the blog post on
> social media: TODO
> ACTION: Oliver to draft China Report in Engagement blog for review
>
> === Social media ===
> ACTION: Sri to test reply-to-email on Gitlab issues: TODO
> ACTION Sri to create issue for sending swag to ironhacks (ironhacks.com)
> ACTION: Sri to work on baeder's patreon post
>
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Re: Gnome_Release party English summary

2018-04-16 Thread Elle O
Are you looking for promotion within China or abroad/the US?

I think I also know some people from the Beijing Linux User's group.

If you're looking for posting opportunities outside the usual stuff you
might want to consider Wechat and QQ for within China, and also Project
Pengyou for reaching US/China students (I believe their website has a place
to post about events students might be interested in—but it's not
tech-specific).

Tsinghua has a nice Maker Institute/community that might also be
interested.



On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Rosanna Yuen  wrote:

> Put it on the engagement blog.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Nuritzi Sanchez 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm forwarding this from Jim, from the GNOME team in China. He's part of
>> the organizing group that helped plan 10 parties across China! He's
>> forwarded an English-version summary of the parties and I wanted to share
>> them with the larger Engagement team. They've blogged about it in Chinese
>> on https://linuxstory.org/.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas for what else we can do with the great summary
>> that is attached?
>>
>
>> Best,
>> Nuritzi
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: 何昀峰 He Yunfeng 
>> Date: Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re:Gnome_Release party English summary
>> To: nuri...@gnome.org
>>
>> *姓名* 何昀峰
>> * heyunfen...@163.com  *
>> *公司名称:*
>> 地址:
>> 电话:
>> 手机:18721531635
>> [image: 二维码]
>>
>> 扫描该二维码,可以将电子名片迅速保存到手机 使用帮助
>> 
>>
>> 在 2018-03-29 08:05:04,"何昀峰 He Yunfeng"  写道:
>>
>> Hi Nuritzi,
>>
>> you can find in the attachment, the pictures of the release party in each
>> of the cities. Cheers!
>>
>> https://linuxstory.org/
>>
>>
>> *姓名* 何昀峰
>> * heyunfen...@163.com  *
>> *公司名称:*
>> 地址:
>> 电话:
>> 手机:18721531635
>> [image: 二维码]
>>
>> 扫描该二维码,可以将电子名片迅速保存到手机 使用帮助
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Request for budget to update the event box contents

2018-02-12 Thread Elle O
Mostly replying to Nuritzi:

So I don't know how serious the box storage situation is, but if you really
need to store boxes and want to do so economically (and only access them
once a month or less), I highly recommend Kennedy moving and Storage down
in the Bayview area of San Francisco. It's best suited for people with a
car who don't mind calling ahead by a day and making an appointment to
access the box. The positives are that it's CHEAP: around $60 a month for a
box the size of a medium sized bathroom, and the staff are competent,
reliable and friendly. Negatives are that it's not that easy to access, but
easily doable if you have a car, and only need to get at it occasionally.

Also, I wouldn't you ask you to reschedule the calls for me...just throwing
the timing issue out there. I'm in the middle of internship hunt season, so
my hours are pretty sporadic/lots of late nights anyway. But early morning
is defintely not my happy time lately. :0

If you send me the assets (should you have any) and clarify the
needs/actual issues, then I'm happy to take a look/work on it. What is the
geographical issue with sizing? It's a DPI problem, or? Usually, if you're
using vector files/PNG sizing shouldn't be a major issues, but sometimes
moving assets into production will require small tweaks (provided the files
were made to be resizable).

Thanks!




Hi Elle!

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Elle O <elleolt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are the printouts/related stuff already settled/designed? If not then I
> might have time to do it later this week.
>

We can definitely add more! Just as an FYI, one of the problems we've faced
in the past is designing print-outs in the correct size for different
geographical locations. If you'd be interested in helping us create a few
new items for events we would love the help!


> Unfortunately the engagement group calls are now a little early for me
> (since I'm in CA), so I'm out of the loop on those and may have missed
> something.
>
>
Yeah, we scheduled calls at that time so we could encourage our friends in
Asia to join. The time is still pretty terrible for them, and now is also
pretty bad for us on the West Coast of the US, so we may have to rethink
meeting times yet again. If the meeting time were to shift 30 minutes later,
would that help you join, or when would you generally be able to join? Just
curious :)

Also -- we are now using the Engagement team workboard on GitLab
<https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Engagement/General/boards> in order to
work together asynchronously. Let me know if you want to jump on a call
sometime and learn how to use it if you don't already know how to! Also,
feel free to send me your username and I can add you to the board.



... Answering the rest of the thread here...

> Ekaterina Gerasimova <kittykat3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...
> >> There was already one in the US when I was on the board, what's
> happened to it?
> >>
> >> https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/Box/NorthAmerica
> >
> > As far as I know, Emily still has it. This has been discussed at
> > various points while I've been on the board and I'm not entirely sure
> > what the current status is. It's possible that we decided that the box
> > is too big to be practical, but I might be wrong about that.
>

There are a few issues at play: 1) we've tried to recover the box for
several years now (even before I joined the Engagement team), without
success; and 2) everything in the box is pretty old by now and would need a
serious refresh anyway. The Engagement team discussed this on a call a few
times and we would really like to create a new box if we move forward with
having a box in North America. One problem though is that we don't have a
designated place to store the box.

Endless donated a GNOME tablecloth last year that I have stored in SF and
can add to a North American travel box.

*@Sri *-- do you think System 76 has any extra storage space? :)
Unfortunately, the Endless office in SF doesn't have a lot of storage
space, so I would only be able to keep the small box with me.



> I think that box is the same size as the smaller European box. If
> there was a size issue, then it would make sense to have a critical
> look at what it would be used for and how it would be transported.
> e.g. if it's always transported by someone rather than shipped, then a
> smaller suitcase could work, but contents would be restricted to
> pretty much laptop and stickers.


> If the box will be shipped, my recommendation after having gone
> through 4 cases is to go for heavy duty ones because while they are
> heavy, they won't need to be replaced every year.


I think it makes sense to have two boxes, a small one and a large one.
Noted: we should buy a sturdy box.


>
> >> Our table cloth is green because we wanted to use the Foundation
> >> co

Re: Request for budget to update the event box contents

2018-02-07 Thread Elle O
Are the printouts/related stuff already settled/designed? If not then I
might have time to do it later this week.

Unfortunately the engagement group calls are now a little early for me
(since I'm in CA), so I'm out of the loop on those and may have missed
something.

Thanks!

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Nuritzi Sanchez  wrote:

> Hi Kat,
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Ekaterina Gerasimova <
> kittykat3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In all cases, I will chose the optimum cost-quality options. As the
>> board suggested that I should group the costs by type of item, the
>> estimated totals may in some cases be higher than the final
>> reimbursement request because I'm not keen on getting quotes for pens
>> and markers ahead of buying them.
>>
>
> That sounds fine.
>
>
>>
>> Laptop: up to £1800
>> Cables and other hardware: up to £100
>> Pens, markers, stationary and storage solutions: up to £100
>> Banner and other display materials: up to £200
>> 1 shipping of the box from UK to France with UPS or DHL for JDLL: up to
>> £150
>>
>
> This request comes at a good time since we were planning on surfacing some
> other budget requests this year for conferences and events (see our last
> meeting notes https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/engagement-team-meetings).
>
> We have been given a budget of $5,000 USD for marketing purposes, so we'll
> need to request additional funds for this. Knowing about this request and
> helping you process it will help us maintain travel boxes in the future.
> For future budgeting purposes, how often do you have to replace items in
> the travel box?
>
> We had also thought about creating a travel box for the US at some point
> since the one we had years ago got lost so it's really helpful to see how
> much you're planning on spending for the European one.
>
> By the way, what color banner are you planning on buying? Since the
> Foundation color is green and the project color is blue, we have been
> encouraging people to try to go for blue when getting banners and things
> for booths. This isn't a formal policy of course and it'd be great to hear
> your thoughts on this.
>
> For print outs, we are trying to have more of a consistent brand. To help
> with that we have these draft brand guidelines for designers: https://raw.
> githubusercontent.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/
> master/brand/style-guide.png and https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gnome-
> design-team/gnome-marketing/master/brand/style-examples.png
>
> We also have some flyers people can print out here:
> https://cloud.gnome.org/index.php/s/sKIAXUjmNYgI9rc in case you're
> interested.
>
>
>
>> I am somewhat unclear on who needs to actually make the approval for
>> this request and how to get reimbursement. If anyone knows, tell me!
>>
>
> I'm the current budget holder, but we'll soon be making a committee to
> handle requests moving forward so that it's not just one person.
>
> Here are instructions for how to ask for reimbursement after you have made
> the purchases: https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/Reimbursements.
> Note: this page needs to be slightly updated, but is mostly correct. In
> this case, you can send the reimbursement request to nuri...@gnome.org
> and cc z...@gnome.org.
>
>
>> I would like to update the box contents in time for JDLL without
>> having a mad rush to get it done at the last second. The board is
>> deciding on what would need to be done with the old contents.
>
>
> Ok, it looks like JDLL is in late March so we have about 1 - 2 weeks to
> get this sorted out. Please keep us updated on any other relevant
> deadlines.
>
> Thank you for doing all of this, Kat!
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Re: Help with GUADEC graphic design tasks

2017-07-07 Thread Elle O
I can try to do it next week if no one else is available (I'm swamped with
an internship right now but should have more breathing room soon).

On Friday, July 7, 2017, Allan Day  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> GUADEC is fast approaching and there are a lot of print materials to
> prepare [1]. I've been doing my best to design these, and have uploaded a
> bunch of work today:
>
>- Attendee badges: https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-
>marketing/tree/master/events/guadec/2017/badges
>
> 
>- Tickets and token for the anniversary party: https://github.com/
>gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/tree/master/events/
>guadec/2017/anniversary-party
>
> 
>- Signage: https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-
>marketing/tree/master/events/guadec/2017/signage
>
> 
>
> I'm not a graphic designer and I'm sure these could be improved. So, if
> anyone with graphic design skills would like to make improvements, it would
> be most appreciated!
>
> Allan
>
> [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC/2017/Printing
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Re: GNOME Style Guide

2017-03-30 Thread Elle O
I agree with a lot of what So Yeon said, including the comments on
secondary colors and the motifs.

I'm an former interaction design/current CS student.

Elle



On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:12 PM, So Yeon Jeong  wrote:

> Hi Allan and engagement list!
>
> I'm So Yeon from NYC studying web and software design, and looking for
> experience working on software design. Previously, I worked at a design
> studio doing marketing and branding work in Boston. Currently, I'm studying
> computer graphics and design at Pratt Institute in New York.
>
> Having looked at the guidelines and example designs, here are some
> comments:
>
>- Does this style guide apply just to the software design, or to the
>marketing/brand content (website, business cards), or both?
>- Typography: Is there a reason for the switch from Cantarell (which
>is already used throughout the website and such) to Source Sans Pro? Both
>are fine and simple sans serifs but if you are already using one, what is
>the reason for the switch?
>- Secondary colors: It may be useful to see color gradients with
>varying saturations and brightnesses. The purple comes off as a bit heavy
>to me, for instance.
>- Visual motifs: What is the context in which the three motifs in the
>first row would be used in? While I understand that the rest of the motifs
>are playing off the wallpaper designs, in the actual sample designs, I'm
>finding that the simple and strong GNOME logo clashes a bit with the
>delicate motifs.Though it does work better, in my opinion, when it is
>filling a shape (for example, in website badges or leaflets). Maybe it
>would be useful to play around with the motif in different color schemes to
>make it stronger and less delicate?
>- Generally, it may be useful to explain more contexts within the
>style guide.
>
>
> Best,
> So Yeon
>
> Subject:GNOME Style Guide
>> Date:   Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:55:22 +
>> From:   Allan Day 
>> To: engagement-list 
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of the problems we have in the Engagement Team is that each time
>> someone comes to do visual design work, they often pick their own fonts,
>> colours and visual style. This means that the project lacks a single visual
>> identity.
>>
>> Last year, Carla Quintana Carrasco did some work to help us with this.
>> Over the summer, she helped us evaluate colour schemes, fonts, and visual
>> approaches. I've just created some draft guidelines <
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-m
>> arketing/master/brand/style-guide.png>, as well as a set of example
>> designs > arketing/master/brand/style-examples.png>, based on this work.
>>
>> My view is that it would be extremely advantageous for us to adopt a set
>> of guidelines, and encourage their use wherever possible. Not only would
>> this help with brand recognition, but it will also make it easier for new
>> contributors to develop their own materials, and will allow us to create a
>> set of template resources that members of the community can use.
>>
>> It would be great to hear your thoughts on this, including feedback on
>> the guidelines and examples themselves.
>>
>> Allan
>>
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