Re: [Enigmail] Tails and Autocrypt

2018-12-07 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 07.12.18 20:06, Sandro Knauß wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> [...]
>> You're right, it's broken. It looks I "improved" it the wrong way
>> sometime in one of the last updates
> 
> Do you have any issue numbers for me? So I can track the status of this? Or 
> should I create bugreports myself?

I already fixed this with the following commits, it will be part of the
next release:
cbddf125f42c135c28c47b53cbfa6deb427ded33
7fedc69adfca6fbba932a20ab91dc442aa7d54ad

-Patrick

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Re: [Enigmail] Tails and Autocrypt

2018-12-07 Thread Sandro Knauß
Hey,

[...]
> You're right, it's broken. It looks I "improved" it the wrong way
> sometime in one of the last updates

Do you have any issue numbers for me? So I can track the status of this? Or 
should I create bugreports myself?

hefee




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Re: [Enigmail] Tails and Autocrypt

2018-12-03 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 03.12.18 17:30, Sandro Knauß wrote:
> Hey,
> 
>> That's not what happens. Yes, the rules are added at the top. But the
>> rules relating to Autocrypt are prefixed with autocrypt://. The logic in
>> Enigmail is such that "autocrypt://" rules are only executed, if no rule
>> without "autocrypt://"-prefix applies.
> 
> yes they are prefixed with autocrypt:// I can see that.
> 
>> In other words, if you have other self-created per-recipient rules in
>> Enigmail, then are should not be disturbed by Autocrypt-rules.
> 
> I tested it several times with Enigmail 2.0.7:
> * moved the self written rule to the top: encrypted mail is sent.
> * moved the self written rule to the bottom: no encrypted mail is sent.
> 
> => Sorry, but for me it looks like, that the logic is not working like 
> expected. Or is there a bugfix for that in 2.0.8 and I need to retest with 
> this version?

You're right, it's broken. It looks I "improved" it the wrong way
sometime in one of the last updates

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Tails and Autocrypt

2018-12-03 Thread Sandro Knauß
Hey,

> That's not what happens. Yes, the rules are added at the top. But the
> rules relating to Autocrypt are prefixed with autocrypt://. The logic in
> Enigmail is such that "autocrypt://" rules are only executed, if no rule
> without "autocrypt://"-prefix applies.

yes they are prefixed with autocrypt:// I can see that.

> In other words, if you have other self-created per-recipient rules in
> Enigmail, then are should not be disturbed by Autocrypt-rules.

I tested it several times with Enigmail 2.0.7:
* moved the self written rule to the top: encrypted mail is sent.
* moved the self written rule to the bottom: no encrypted mail is sent.

=> Sorry, but for me it looks like, that the logic is not working like 
expected. Or is there a bugfix for that in 2.0.8 and I need to retest with 
this version?

hefee



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Re: [Enigmail] Tails and Autocrypt

2018-12-03 Thread Jeffrey R. Allen
On 12/3/2018 9:47 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> On 03.12.18 13:44, Sandro Knauß wrote:
> [...]
>> Autocrypt adds own per-recipient rule with (never,never) on top of the rule 
>> list and that overwrites the other per-recipient rules. As the other rules 
>> were done by hand from the user - The user would never expects, that a 
>> update 
>> will overwrite his rules silently. If the rule order is changed (autoencrypt 
>> rule would be added to the bottom), the other rules are preferred and an 
>> encrypted mail is sent by default according to the other rules. 
> 
> That's not what happens. Yes, the rules are added at the top. But the
> rules relating to Autocrypt are prefixed with autocrypt://. The logic in
> Enigmail is such that "autocrypt://" rules are only executed, if no rule
> without "autocrypt://"-prefix applies.
> 
> In other words, if you have other self-created per-recipient rules in
> Enigmail, then are should not be disturbed by Autocrypt-rules.

That is not what is happening here.  I have a pre-existing PRR for one
of my correspondents--
email address / key / encrypt Always / sign Always / PGP/MIME possible

The prefixed autocrypt:// rule --
email address / key / encrypt Possible / sign Possible / PGP/MIME always

Unless I intervene, emails to that address are sent--
encrypted / not signed / PGP/MIME



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Re: [Enigmail] Tails and Autocrypt

2018-12-03 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 03.12.18 13:44, Sandro Knauß wrote:
[...]
> Autocrypt adds own per-recipient rule with (never,never) on top of the rule 
> list and that overwrites the other per-recipient rules. As the other rules 
> were done by hand from the user - The user would never expects, that a update 
> will overwrite his rules silently. If the rule order is changed (autoencrypt 
> rule would be added to the bottom), the other rules are preferred and an 
> encrypted mail is sent by default according to the other rules. 

That's not what happens. Yes, the rules are added at the top. But the
rules relating to Autocrypt are prefixed with autocrypt://. The logic in
Enigmail is such that "autocrypt://" rules are only executed, if no rule
without "autocrypt://"-prefix applies.

In other words, if you have other self-created per-recipient rules in
Enigmail, then are should not be disturbed by Autocrypt-rules.

[...]

-Patrick



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