Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
So, now I'm in a werid situation because I tried to run sudo locale-gen I'd like to specify that when I tried to sudo gedit /etc/locale.gen before launchin locale-gen, there was no such file or it was empty. After running the command, same thing :) The file does not exist or it's empty. Well whatever, let's start with the real propblem. After running locale-gen, it generated a very long list of locales (I'm in Ubuntu, Jaunty, guess almost everything is installed by default). Please continue to the bottom of the mail. 2009/6/4 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com 2009/6/4 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:41:05 +0200 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com said: Beside the fact that the module has a BIG RED advise not to use it, I even tried it, the wizard started suddenly with a screen I never saw before, asking me to choose a language between Japanese, Deutsch and another weird language I cannot understand (I'm Italian and by the way english wasn't listed) and at the end of the wizard I had a newly customized e17 desktop in it only lists locales that 1. e has translations for, and 2. are suppoted by your system. locale -a will list them. this is a matter for you to install the appropriate locale support for your os. I have English and Italian installed on my OS and they are not listed, as I said. In fact, now that I deleted my .e again and Enlightenment restored a standard .e folder, my E is translated to Italian and all my OS in general is in Italian. This had nothing to do with languages E had translations for (it has translations for Italian) or languages suppprted by my system (my system supports Italian and has it installed ;) ). Maybe it happened because I used the module rather than the real wizard which should run once, etc.? a foreign language. Also, looking at loaded modules, I noticed that the first run wizard module is not loaded again! So, it looks like loading it activates it suddenly and then it is automatically unloaded. In any case, doing the same things I did before now changed nothing. Still the same problem... correct. first run wizard is only meant to be run once - it then should switch to another profile that doesnt load it. it SHOULD be run first time you use e - if you have no ~/.e directory So, you are telling me that once I run Wizard, E is NOW setted up so that wizard cannot be run anymore because it will revert to the first configuration I created with wizard, basically? Say, for example, I run E for the first time and customize it with Wizard in the way Y. Then I delete .e, restart the session, and E will always revert to Y configuration without running wizard? Some versions ago it wasn't like that. On my OpenGEU 8.10 release it was a feature that every time you deleted .e you had the chance to reconfigure in a guided way everything again with wizard :) But I can still use the module as an option for people to manually run wizard if they want... ONLY if I can understand the languages problem. Casterm any idea, seriously, why my installed languages are not listed? When I run locale -a just to get you the degree of my problem, I have these: locale -a bn_BD bn_IN C de_AT.utf8 de_BE.utf8 de_CH.utf8 de_DE.utf8 de_LI.utf8 de_LU.utf8 en_AU.utf8 en_BW.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_DK.utf8 en_GB.utf8 en_HK.utf8 en_IE.utf8 en_IN en_NG en_NZ.utf8 en_PH.utf8 en_SG.utf8 en_US.utf8 en_ZA.utf8 en_ZW.utf8 es_AR.utf8 es_BO.utf8 es_CL.utf8 es_CO.utf8 es_CR.utf8 es_DO.utf8 es_EC.utf8 es_ES.utf8 es_GT.utf8 es_HN.utf8 es_MX.utf8 es_NI.utf8 es_PA.utf8 es_PE.utf8 es_PR.utf8 es_PY.utf8 es_SV.utf8 es_US.utf8 es_UY.utf8 es_VE.utf8 fr_BE.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 fr_CH.utf8 fr_FR.utf8 fr_LU.utf8 it_CH.utf8 it_IT.utf8 POSIX pt_BR.utf8 pt_PT.utf8 xh_ZA.utf8 So, as you may see, way more than 3 languages and I doubt E has translations for only 3 of these langs, plus, as I already sais, E only lists weird for me languages, like japanese! And Italian is translated (I said that too, I'm now writing from an Italian translated E). Plus, when I load the wizard module, couldn't E just run with my installed locale and not ask me which to use? I'm pretty sure that when I run wizard for the first time it doesn't ask for the language, why does it now? Well, in any case, if anyone can help, my problem is pretty simple: I need a way to run wizard at will :) That's all :) Greets and thanks for answers everybody, Now I do not only have the first problem. Keep in mind I created an opengeu custom configuration for wizard to load too, as another preset configuration. So, when I load the wizard module, this screen appears, see shot1. http://opengeu.intilinux.com/screenshots/geushot1.jpg Only 3 weird languages I can't even tell which languages are them except for Japanese maybe.. well, I choose the first one, thought it was german (from the DE prefix) but it happens
Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
The second scren is not completely french :) Try the language manager in the e's panel settings. 2009/6/4 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com So, now I'm in a werid situation because I tried to run sudo locale-gen I'd like to specify that when I tried to sudo gedit /etc/locale.gen before launchin locale-gen, there was no such file or it was empty. After running the command, same thing :) The file does not exist or it's empty. Well whatever, let's start with the real propblem. After running locale-gen, it generated a very long list of locales (I'm in Ubuntu, Jaunty, guess almost everything is installed by default). Please continue to the bottom of the mail. 2009/6/4 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com 2009/6/4 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:41:05 +0200 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com said: Beside the fact that the module has a BIG RED advise not to use it, I even tried it, the wizard started suddenly with a screen I never saw before, asking me to choose a language between Japanese, Deutsch and another weird language I cannot understand (I'm Italian and by the way english wasn't listed) and at the end of the wizard I had a newly customized e17 desktop in it only lists locales that 1. e has translations for, and 2. are suppoted by your system. locale -a will list them. this is a matter for you to install the appropriate locale support for your os. I have English and Italian installed on my OS and they are not listed, as I said. In fact, now that I deleted my .e again and Enlightenment restored a standard .e folder, my E is translated to Italian and all my OS in general is in Italian. This had nothing to do with languages E had translations for (it has translations for Italian) or languages suppprted by my system (my system supports Italian and has it installed ;) ). Maybe it happened because I used the module rather than the real wizard which should run once, etc.? a foreign language. Also, looking at loaded modules, I noticed that the first run wizard module is not loaded again! So, it looks like loading it activates it suddenly and then it is automatically unloaded. In any case, doing the same things I did before now changed nothing. Still the same problem... correct. first run wizard is only meant to be run once - it then should switch to another profile that doesnt load it. it SHOULD be run first time you use e - if you have no ~/.e directory So, you are telling me that once I run Wizard, E is NOW setted up so that wizard cannot be run anymore because it will revert to the first configuration I created with wizard, basically? Say, for example, I run E for the first time and customize it with Wizard in the way Y. Then I delete .e, restart the session, and E will always revert to Y configuration without running wizard? Some versions ago it wasn't like that. On my OpenGEU 8.10 release it was a feature that every time you deleted .e you had the chance to reconfigure in a guided way everything again with wizard :) But I can still use the module as an option for people to manually run wizard if they want... ONLY if I can understand the languages problem. Casterm any idea, seriously, why my installed languages are not listed? When I run locale -a just to get you the degree of my problem, I have these: locale -a bn_BD bn_IN C de_AT.utf8 de_BE.utf8 de_CH.utf8 de_DE.utf8 de_LI.utf8 de_LU.utf8 en_AU.utf8 en_BW.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_DK.utf8 en_GB.utf8 en_HK.utf8 en_IE.utf8 en_IN en_NG en_NZ.utf8 en_PH.utf8 en_SG.utf8 en_US.utf8 en_ZA.utf8 en_ZW.utf8 es_AR.utf8 es_BO.utf8 es_CL.utf8 es_CO.utf8 es_CR.utf8 es_DO.utf8 es_EC.utf8 es_ES.utf8 es_GT.utf8 es_HN.utf8 es_MX.utf8 es_NI.utf8 es_PA.utf8 es_PE.utf8 es_PR.utf8 es_PY.utf8 es_SV.utf8 es_US.utf8 es_UY.utf8 es_VE.utf8 fr_BE.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 fr_CH.utf8 fr_FR.utf8 fr_LU.utf8 it_CH.utf8 it_IT.utf8 POSIX pt_BR.utf8 pt_PT.utf8 xh_ZA.utf8 So, as you may see, way more than 3 languages and I doubt E has translations for only 3 of these langs, plus, as I already sais, E only lists weird for me languages, like japanese! And Italian is translated (I said that too, I'm now writing from an Italian translated E). Plus, when I load the wizard module, couldn't E just run with my installed locale and not ask me which to use? I'm pretty sure that when I run wizard for the first time it doesn't ask for the language, why does it now? Well, in any case, if anyone can help, my problem is pretty simple: I need a way to run wizard at will :) That's all :) Greets and thanks for answers everybody, Now I do not only have the first problem. Keep in mind I created an opengeu custom configuration for wizard to load too, as another preset
Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 07:08:03 +0200 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com said: 2009/6/4 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:41:05 +0200 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com said: Beside the fact that the module has a BIG RED advise not to use it, I even tried it, the wizard started suddenly with a screen I never saw before, asking me to choose a language between Japanese, Deutsch and another weird language I cannot understand (I'm Italian and by the way english wasn't listed) and at the end of the wizard I had a newly customized e17 desktop in it only lists locales that 1. e has translations for, and 2. are suppoted by your system. locale -a will list them. this is a matter for you to install the appropriate locale support for your os. I have English and Italian installed on my OS and they are not listed, as I said. In fact, now that I deleted my .e again and Enlightenment restored a standard .e folder, my E is translated to Italian and all my OS in general is in Italian. This had nothing to do with languages E had translations for (it has translations for Italian) or languages suppprted by my system (my system supports Italian and has it installed ;) ). Maybe it happened because I used the module rather than the real wizard which should run once, etc.? apt-get install language-support-it (de, fr, ja, en, pt, etc. etc.) it lits italian for me. (and a whole bunch of others).using the module in any way is the same - it goes through the same codepath. a foreign language. Also, looking at loaded modules, I noticed that the first run wizard module is not loaded again! So, it looks like loading it activates it suddenly and then it is automatically unloaded. In any case, doing the same things I did before now changed nothing. Still the same problem... correct. first run wizard is only meant to be run once - it then should switch to another profile that doesnt load it. it SHOULD be run first time you use e - if you have no ~/.e directory So, you are telling me that once I run Wizard, E is NOW setted up so that wizard cannot be run anymore because it will revert to the first configuration I created with wizard, basically? Say, for example, I run E for the first time and customize it with Wizard in the way Y. Then I delete .e, restart the session, and E will always revert to Y configuration without running wizard? e is intended to be run before you have config - expect it to replace your config. nb - your restart probably had e save its config on restart anyway and thus replaced what u deleted :) Some versions ago it wasn't like that. On my OpenGEU 8.10 release it was a feature that every time you deleted .e you had the chance to reconfigure in a guided way everything again with wizard :) and still is - you just were luck that e didn't re-save on exit/restart then. But I can still use the module as an option for people to manually run wizard if they want... ONLY if I can understand the languages problem. Casterm any idea, seriously, why my installed languages are not listed? When I run locale -a just to get you the degree of my problem, I have these: it isnt intended for manual use later on after e is started - it probably will work, depending on the situation, but it expects to be using the default profile at the time. as for languages - see above. italian and much more lit for me. locale -a bn_BD bn_IN C de_AT.utf8 de_BE.utf8 de_CH.utf8 de_DE.utf8 de_LI.utf8 de_LU.utf8 en_AU.utf8 en_BW.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_DK.utf8 en_GB.utf8 en_HK.utf8 en_IE.utf8 en_IN en_NG en_NZ.utf8 en_PH.utf8 en_SG.utf8 en_US.utf8 en_ZA.utf8 en_ZW.utf8 es_AR.utf8 es_BO.utf8 es_CL.utf8 es_CO.utf8 es_CR.utf8 es_DO.utf8 es_EC.utf8 es_ES.utf8 es_GT.utf8 es_HN.utf8 es_MX.utf8 es_NI.utf8 es_PA.utf8 es_PE.utf8 es_PR.utf8 es_PY.utf8 es_SV.utf8 es_US.utf8 es_UY.utf8 es_VE.utf8 fr_BE.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 fr_CH.utf8 fr_FR.utf8 fr_LU.utf8 it_CH.utf8 it_IT.utf8 POSIX pt_BR.utf8 pt_PT.utf8 xh_ZA.utf8 So, as you may see, way more than 3 languages and I doubt E has translations for only 3 of these langs, plus, as I already sais, E only lists weird for me languages, like japanese! And Italian is translated (I said that too, I'm now writing from an Italian translated E). Plus, when I load the wizard module, couldn't E just run with my installed locale and not ask me which to use? I'm pretty sure that when I run wizard for the first time it doesn't ask for the language, why does it now? it always does - it always had. it was one of the first things i made the wizard do. it has no skip logic. it runs because the system locale is not necessarily what the language the user wants to use. on a single user system - maybe. if you personally installed those and set that up. i someone else did or you have more than 1 user - each speaking an different language, then it's
Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
Dnia 2009-06-03, śro o godzinie 20:08 +0200, Luca De Marini pisze: Hallo, my problem is simple: even if I delete my .e folder from the home directory, when I restart the session, the Wizard module doesn't start. E restores its default settings instead. For example: I configure my enlightenment as I wish, then I logoff, I run gnome, delete .e from my home directory, log in again in E and Wizard doesn't start: E simply runs with default settings. It shows a default shelf on the bottom, default theme and default modules loaded. Looks like E recreates my .e directory without even trying to start wizard. What could the problem be?I run the latest built E17 version, in the repos. greets everyone, please help, Luca D.M. Do you have First Run Wizard listed in modules? If you do, try to load it. Tomasz K. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
2009/6/3 Tomasz Kontusz rovero...@gmail.com Dnia 2009-06-03, śro o godzinie 20:08 +0200, Luca De Marini pisze: Hallo, my problem is simple: even if I delete my .e folder from the home directory, when I restart the session, the Wizard module doesn't start. E restores its default settings instead. For example: I configure my enlightenment as I wish, then I logoff, I run gnome, delete .e from my home directory, log in again in E and Wizard doesn't start: E simply runs with default settings. It shows a default shelf on the bottom, default theme and default modules loaded. Looks like E recreates my .e directory without even trying to start wizard. What could the problem be?I run the latest built E17 version, in the repos. greets everyone, please help, Luca D.M. Do you have First Run Wizard listed in modules? If you do, try to load it. Beside the fact that the module has a BIG RED advise not to use it, I even tried it, the wizard started suddenly with a screen I never saw before, asking me to choose a language between Japanese, Deutsch and another weird language I cannot understand (I'm Italian and by the way english wasn't listed) and at the end of the wizard I had a newly customized e17 desktop in a foreign language. Also, looking at loaded modules, I noticed that the first run wizard module is not loaded again! So, it looks like loading it activates it suddenly and then it is automatically unloaded. In any case, doing the same things I did before now changed nothing. Still the same problem... Luca -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
2009/6/3 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com: 2009/6/3 Tomasz Kontusz rovero...@gmail.com Dnia 2009-06-03, śro o godzinie 20:08 +0200, Luca De Marini pisze: Hallo, my problem is simple: even if I delete my .e folder from the home directory, when I restart the session, the Wizard module doesn't start. E restores its default settings instead. For example: I configure my enlightenment as I wish, then I logoff, I run gnome, delete .e from my home directory, log in again in E and Wizard doesn't start: E simply runs with default settings. It shows a default shelf on the bottom, default theme and default modules loaded. Looks like E recreates my .e directory without even trying to start wizard. What could the problem be?I run the latest built E17 version, in the repos. greets everyone, please help, Luca D.M. Do you have First Run Wizard listed in modules? If you do, try to load it. Beside the fact that the module has a BIG RED advise not to use it, I even tried it, the wizard started suddenly with a screen I never saw before, asking me to choose a language between Japanese, Deutsch and another weird language I cannot understand (I'm Italian and by the way english wasn't listed) and at the end of the wizard I had a newly customized e17 desktop in a foreign language. Also, looking at loaded modules, I noticed that the first run wizard module is not loaded again! So, it looks like loading it activates it suddenly and then it is automatically unloaded. In any case, doing the same things I did before now changed nothing. Still the same problem... E loads the default settings for the default profile, which has nothing but the wizard loaded. If you changed the default default (old one is now standard), it may prevent the wizard from showing up. For the list of available languages, check what in /etc/locale.gen for the locales generated for your system and run locale-gen. Luca -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:41:05 +0200 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com said: Beside the fact that the module has a BIG RED advise not to use it, I even tried it, the wizard started suddenly with a screen I never saw before, asking me to choose a language between Japanese, Deutsch and another weird language I cannot understand (I'm Italian and by the way english wasn't listed) and at the end of the wizard I had a newly customized e17 desktop in it only lists locales that 1. e has translations for, and 2. are suppoted by your system. locale -a will list them. this is a matter for you to install the appropriate locale support for your os. a foreign language. Also, looking at loaded modules, I noticed that the first run wizard module is not loaded again! So, it looks like loading it activates it suddenly and then it is automatically unloaded. In any case, doing the same things I did before now changed nothing. Still the same problem... correct. first run wizard is only meant to be run once - it then should switch to another profile that doesnt load it. it SHOULD be run first time you use e - if you have no ~/.e directory -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] I cannot run Wizard in any way
2009/6/4 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:41:05 +0200 Luca De Marini luca.darkmas...@gmail.com said: Beside the fact that the module has a BIG RED advise not to use it, I even tried it, the wizard started suddenly with a screen I never saw before, asking me to choose a language between Japanese, Deutsch and another weird language I cannot understand (I'm Italian and by the way english wasn't listed) and at the end of the wizard I had a newly customized e17 desktop in it only lists locales that 1. e has translations for, and 2. are suppoted by your system. locale -a will list them. this is a matter for you to install the appropriate locale support for your os. I have English and Italian installed on my OS and they are not listed, as I said. In fact, now that I deleted my .e again and Enlightenment restored a standard .e folder, my E is translated to Italian and all my OS in general is in Italian. This had nothing to do with languages E had translations for (it has translations for Italian) or languages suppprted by my system (my system supports Italian and has it installed ;) ). Maybe it happened because I used the module rather than the real wizard which should run once, etc.? a foreign language. Also, looking at loaded modules, I noticed that the first run wizard module is not loaded again! So, it looks like loading it activates it suddenly and then it is automatically unloaded. In any case, doing the same things I did before now changed nothing. Still the same problem... correct. first run wizard is only meant to be run once - it then should switch to another profile that doesnt load it. it SHOULD be run first time you use e - if you have no ~/.e directory So, you are telling me that once I run Wizard, E is NOW setted up so that wizard cannot be run anymore because it will revert to the first configuration I created with wizard, basically? Say, for example, I run E for the first time and customize it with Wizard in the way Y. Then I delete .e, restart the session, and E will always revert to Y configuration without running wizard? Some versions ago it wasn't like that. On my OpenGEU 8.10 release it was a feature that every time you deleted .e you had the chance to reconfigure in a guided way everything again with wizard :) But I can still use the module as an option for people to manually run wizard if they want... ONLY if I can understand the languages problem. Casterm any idea, seriously, why my installed languages are not listed? When I run locale -a just to get you the degree of my problem, I have these: locale -a bn_BD bn_IN C de_AT.utf8 de_BE.utf8 de_CH.utf8 de_DE.utf8 de_LI.utf8 de_LU.utf8 en_AU.utf8 en_BW.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_DK.utf8 en_GB.utf8 en_HK.utf8 en_IE.utf8 en_IN en_NG en_NZ.utf8 en_PH.utf8 en_SG.utf8 en_US.utf8 en_ZA.utf8 en_ZW.utf8 es_AR.utf8 es_BO.utf8 es_CL.utf8 es_CO.utf8 es_CR.utf8 es_DO.utf8 es_EC.utf8 es_ES.utf8 es_GT.utf8 es_HN.utf8 es_MX.utf8 es_NI.utf8 es_PA.utf8 es_PE.utf8 es_PR.utf8 es_PY.utf8 es_SV.utf8 es_US.utf8 es_UY.utf8 es_VE.utf8 fr_BE.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 fr_CH.utf8 fr_FR.utf8 fr_LU.utf8 it_CH.utf8 it_IT.utf8 POSIX pt_BR.utf8 pt_PT.utf8 xh_ZA.utf8 So, as you may see, way more than 3 languages and I doubt E has translations for only 3 of these langs, plus, as I already sais, E only lists weird for me languages, like japanese! And Italian is translated (I said that too, I'm now writing from an Italian translated E). Plus, when I load the wizard module, couldn't E just run with my installed locale and not ask me which to use? I'm pretty sure that when I run wizard for the first time it doesn't ask for the language, why does it now? Well, in any case, if anyone can help, my problem is pretty simple: I need a way to run wizard at will :) That's all :) Greets and thanks for answers everybody, Luca D.M. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
