Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
hi, sorry if this "request" was written by someone already, didn't look through the thread. right now each new unread message add own "box" and if the message is unread then hovering mouse over that box (without clicking) will raise the original notification: http://www.imagebam.com/image/47af1635729112 but when you're out for a long period and then back - such behavior is not quite comfortable. it'd be really great to have a single "remainder-box" with an options to review and delete the unread messages. right here several critical alerts types are fetched from logs and proceeded with "notify-send", "festival" (as an option) and so on. it'd be really nice option to have an unique "notification management" tool. at least an option to store unread messages and work with them later could be handy for some. regards, sda -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:14:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: > >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov >> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> >> >> Hey all, >> >> >> >> >> >> notification module is useful, I like it and will move to >> >> >> e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to >> >> >> revamp it so I need input from other users of it. >> >> >> >> >> >> for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages >> >> >> and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any >> >> >> application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using >> >> >> libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new >> >> >> ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current >> >> >> e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) >> >> >> window if composite manager is in use. >> >> >> >> >> >> if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half >> >> >> of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it >> >> >> seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do >> >> >> you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, >> >> >> fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. >> >> > Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice >> >> > work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard >> >> > with that. >> >> > >> >> > One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper >> >> > multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but >> >> > appears as a box character in the message. >> >> >> >> which software is sending "\n" inside message? AFAIU, the message >> >> should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with "". >> > >> > Fn + F3 (battery info) sends "\n" for a newline when displaying the >> > status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both >> > notification-daemon and notify-osd handle "\n" fine btw. >> >> we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps >> whenever possible. > > textbloc expect markup. not plain txext. the notification module should > convert > from plain to markup. it's simply using the api wrongly. i know, but I wonder if the notification spec allows you to send \n as well... if it does, I can do that, if not I'll not fix broken programs in e -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > sure. I'll rework this and some ui bits of popup at least. > > since you're the sole user of "box" feature, do you really want to > keep it or may I drop that, at least for now? Then someone else can > try to work on it (if done properly, it's like viktor's drawer, but > with different content). > If by box you mean the area which stores the icons, then you may remove it if you don't have time to maintain it. I used it because I could think up a use case for it (notifying me of mail by watching alpine's status ;) ). -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:14:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov > wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov > >> wrote: > >> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> >> Hey all, > >> >> > >> >> notification module is useful, I like it and will move to > >> >> e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to > >> >> revamp it so I need input from other users of it. > >> >> > >> >> for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages > >> >> and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any > >> >> application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using > >> >> libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new > >> >> ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current > >> >> e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) > >> >> window if composite manager is in use. > >> >> > >> >> if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half > >> >> of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it > >> >> seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do > >> >> you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, > >> >> fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. > >> > Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice > >> > work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard > >> > with that. > >> > > >> > One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper > >> > multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but > >> > appears as a box character in the message. > >> > >> which software is sending "\n" inside message? AFAIU, the message > >> should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with "". > > > > Fn + F3 (battery info) sends "\n" for a newline when displaying the > > status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both > > notification-daemon and notify-osd handle "\n" fine btw. > > we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps > whenever possible. textbloc expect markup. not plain txext. the notification module should convert from plain to markup. it's simply using the api wrongly. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> >> Hey all, >> >> >> >> notification module is useful, I like it and will move to >> >> e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to >> >> revamp it so I need input from other users of it. >> >> >> >> for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages >> >> and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any >> >> application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using >> >> libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new >> >> ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current >> >> e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) >> >> window if composite manager is in use. >> >> >> >> if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half >> >> of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it >> >> seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do >> >> you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, >> >> fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. >> > Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice >> > work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard >> > with that. >> > >> > One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper >> > multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but >> > appears as a box character in the message. >> >> which software is sending "\n" inside message? AFAIU, the message >> should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with "". > > Fn + F3 (battery info) sends "\n" for a newline when displaying the > status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both > notification-daemon and notify-osd handle "\n" fine btw. we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps whenever possible. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov > wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> Hey all, > >> > >> notification module is useful, I like it and will move to > >> e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to > >> revamp it so I need input from other users of it. > >> > >> for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages > >> and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any > >> application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using > >> libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new > >> ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current > >> e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) > >> window if composite manager is in use. > >> > >> if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half > >> of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it > >> seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do > >> you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, > >> fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. > > Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice > > work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard > > with that. > > > > One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper > > multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but > > appears as a box character in the message. > > which software is sending "\n" inside message? AFAIU, the message > should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with "". Fn + F3 (battery info) sends "\n" for a newline when displaying the status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both notification-daemon and notify-osd handle "\n" fine btw. > -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Hey all, > > notification module is useful, I like it and will move to > e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to > revamp it so I need input from other users of it. > > for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages > and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any > application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using > libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new > ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current > e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) > window if composite manager is in use. I like the notification system, it is quite useful in some apps, so it's great that E's implementation will be further improved. Qt unfortunately has a own internal system for showing similar popups, but hopefully that will change. > if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half > of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it > seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do > you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, > fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. I tried the gadget some time ago and didn't find it useful at all. However, I could imagine a gadget that stores notifications to make it available as history in list form. Would imho be a better use for a gadget (could also be possible to disable notify-popups so they go directly in the history and can be viewed later). Also this allows it to have a fixed space in a shelf where it is visible as a single gadget whether or not there are any notifications. So I'd say: drop it and maybe create a useful replacement. -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:08 AM, P Purkayastha wrote: > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> >> Hey all, >> >> notification module is useful, I like it and will move to >> e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to >> revamp it so I need input from other users of it. >> >> for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages >> and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any >> application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using >> libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new >> ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current >> e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) >> window if composite manager is in use. >> >> if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half >> of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it >> seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do >> you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, >> fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. >> >> > > Hi, > I am a regular (daily) user of notification module. I use it on the shelf. > There is one thing which has always bothered me,- that is the fact that the > notification module does not seem to respect the urgency level. I have just > now tried the following with a clean and new config with only notification > module enabled in addition to the default enabled modules. [...] I noticed that too and plan to fix it and maybe change title color or mark popups with their level somehow (ideas btw?). Anyway, you described good test cases that I'll consider while doing the work. > With all the negative comments above, I must say one positive comment: the > rest of the module works absolutely fine. I have configured it heavily in my > original .e config, tweaking *all* the checkboxes/sliders I could find. :D > > Since you are trying to clean up the module, I thought it would be a good > time to bring up this bug :D sure. I'll rework this and some ui bits of popup at least. since you're the sole user of "box" feature, do you really want to keep it or may I drop that, at least for now? Then someone else can try to work on it (if done properly, it's like viktor's drawer, but with different content). -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> notification module is useful, I like it and will move to >> e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to >> revamp it so I need input from other users of it. >> >> for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages >> and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any >> application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using >> libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new >> ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current >> e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) >> window if composite manager is in use. >> >> if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half >> of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it >> seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do >> you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, >> fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. > Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice > work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard > with that. > > One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper > multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but > appears as a box character in the message. which software is sending "\n" inside message? AFAIU, the message should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with "". -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Hey all, > > notification module is useful, I like it and will move to > e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to > revamp it so I need input from other users of it. > > for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages > and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any > application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using > libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new > ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current > e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) > window if composite manager is in use. > > if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half > of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it > seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do > you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, > fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard with that. One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but appears as a box character in the message. > -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Hey all, > > notification module is useful, I like it and will move to > e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to > revamp it so I need input from other users of it. > > for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages > and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any > application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using > libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new > ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current > e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent) > window if composite manager is in use. > > if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half > of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it > seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do > you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature, > fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules. > > Hi, I am a regular (daily) user of notification module. I use it on the shelf. There is one thing which has always bothered me,- that is the fact that the notification module does not seem to respect the urgency level. I have just now tried the following with a clean and new config with only notification module enabled in addition to the default enabled modules. 1. If I send the command *e-notify-send -u "low" "test" "test 2"* then the icon remains in the module box even though I have specified in the configuration that it should not store the icons for the low level, that is "Levels of urgency to store" has "low" disabled. 2. On the other hand if I remove the tick marks on *all* the urgency levels, then it does work and does not show the icon. 3. If I tick only 'normal' urgency level to store, and do a *e-notify-send -u critical "test" "test 2"* then it does not show the icon, but the command with '-u low' shows the icon. 4. I just now noticed that the "Levels of urgency to popup" in the configuration under "Extensions" has "low" disabled. Still I always got popups when I tried the above commands with '-u low'. 5. In the very beginning when you first introduced this module, it took me quite some time to figure out that the configuration dialog was split into two parts and one part was under "Extensions", the other part being accessible from the shelf. It is just a personal remark that I did not expect there to be further configuration present under "Extensions". With all the negative comments above, I must say one positive comment: the rest of the module works absolutely fine. I have configured it heavily in my original .e config, tweaking *all* the checkboxes/sliders I could find. :D Since you are trying to clean up the module, I thought it would be a good time to bring up this bug :D -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
