Re: [e-users] Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful

2014-06-12 Thread Markus Törnqvist
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:31:29PM -0700, mk wrote:

Think of this: why matadors use red (orange is basically red a bit of yellow 
added) to excite bulls? Why red is used to mark whorehouses? These colors are 
extremely disturbing psychologically speaking. 

As a piece of trivia, the Helsinki metro is a horrible orange;
http://www.raitio.org/metro/kalusto/m100/m100_kuvat/109_ik.jpg
http://areena.yle.fi/static/mk/images/previews/ed/ed1d4916505e4c66a708711296167e2e/47945_preview_620.jpg

The rationale I heard is that when they were originally building it
in the early 80s, they chose that color because they were afraid
hobos and others would start hanging out in the metros. This still
happens in the winters, but the color is meant to deter people.

I do use a red-ish theme, can't remember which one, at home but
on my laptop I only changed the background image on the default
theme and it's really cool that gtk2 apps now look the same. Wish
I hadn't put up with the default gtk looks for years and now it
looks like I have to do that with gtk3 :/

When I was on Window Maker I made some themes of my own.
Looking at these screenshots makes me feel like a kid again :D

But I do wish making themes for Enlightenment was as easy
as making wmaker themes back then.

A couple of band-related themes:
http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-ajattara_theme.jpg
http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-kotiteollisuus_theme.jpg
http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-symphonyx_theme.jpg
which turned out annoying to be actually used, but good finger
practice.

I used this one for the longest time
http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-alsashot.png

The one I ended up finally using was this because the image
is so cool. Guess it was a big hit at the time ;)
http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/unleash_tacgnol_theme_proto.png

But the story to be learned is that even a clueless kid like
I-back-then could tell what works and what doesn't. Most themes
for wmaker were crap - as were most for enlightenment.

Noticing this should be an encouragement for theme makers to
try a bit harder and I for one will read the links on color
theory here, because it's all pretty new to me :D

Hopefully get a theme or two ported that I used to use
to enlightenment some day, but even better :)

Is this still current?
http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/creating_themes.html

Wasn't there a GUI app for editing Edje files? Googling comes
up kinda empty, though there seem to be references to something...

Thanks!

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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread Quelrond
Me too, I'm waiting for Engage compiled for new Enlightenment.
It is blocking for me - I'm staying on E17...
I've checked a bit the code - really difficult to understand WHAT should 
be refactored for new compositing...
Please, someone, help Mik!!


Qq


On 06/11/2014 06:55, mik firestone wrote:
 My understanding is that engage hasn't compiled for a while, due to changes
 in the compositing layer.

 I really miss engage. I miss it enough I will attempt to fix it. I can code
 and I have some experience with graphics toolkits. I also have a week or so
 in the near future where I can focus on getting this working again.

 Are there any resources that I can use to understand what changed in the
 compositing layer, or broader resources that I can use to understand how to
 write a module in general?

 Thanks,
 Mik


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[e-users] Please add gtkrc to E release (was e: Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful)

2014-06-12 Thread Stefano
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Rasterman,

your gtkrc theme is the one that integrates better with E. Of course I'm not
surprised since its yours.

Thanks a lot for sharing it.

It would be great if the theme could be somehow added to E's release or put in
a repo or something so that it can be packaged as something like
gnome-enlighenment-theme. Possibly, it can be renamed E Clearlooks so that it
won't override the standard Clearlooks theme.

As I already mentioned in the past, it would also be great if one could have an
X11 mouse pointer that blends with E's default one (e.g. it's weird to see one's
pointer change when clicking on Firefox tabs).

Just a thought,

- -- Stefano

P.S.
Personally, I don't find E ugly and awful at all. I have been playing with
themes in E17 but I stuck with E18's default because it one of the best dark
themes ever.
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Re: [e-users] Please add gtkrc to E release (was e: Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful)

2014-06-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:36 +0100 Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said:

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 Rasterman,
 
 your gtkrc theme is the one that integrates better with E. Of course I'm not
 surprised since its yours.
 
 Thanks a lot for sharing it.

i barely tried. like.. barely... it really isn't that great - thus didn't
include it. if anythng were to be included it'd be some kind of automatic gtkrc
generator or embedding them in the edj file and extracting them out .. but that
code is not there. :)

 It would be great if the theme could be somehow added to E's release or put in
 a repo or something so that it can be packaged as something like
 gnome-enlighenment-theme. Possibly, it can be renamed E Clearlooks so that
 it won't override the standard Clearlooks theme.
 
 As I already mentioned in the past, it would also be great if one could have
 an X11 mouse pointer that blends with E's default one (e.g. it's weird to see
 one's pointer change when clicking on Firefox tabs).
 
 Just a thought,
 
 - -- Stefano
 
 P.S.
 Personally, I don't find E ugly and awful at all. I have been playing with
 themes in E17 but I stuck with E18's default because it one of the best dark
 themes ever.
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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful

2014-06-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:09:22 +0300 Markus Törnqvist m...@nysv.org said:

 On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:31:29PM -0700, mk wrote:
 
 Think of this: why matadors use red (orange is basically red a bit of yellow
 added) to excite bulls? Why red is used to mark whorehouses? These colors
 are extremely disturbing psychologically speaking. 
 
 As a piece of trivia, the Helsinki metro is a horrible orange;
 http://www.raitio.org/metro/kalusto/m100/m100_kuvat/109_ik.jpg
 http://areena.yle.fi/static/mk/images/previews/ed/ed1d4916505e4c66a708711296167e2e/47945_preview_620.jpg
 
 The rationale I heard is that when they were originally building it
 in the early 80s, they chose that color because they were afraid
 hobos and others would start hanging out in the metros. This still
 happens in the winters, but the color is meant to deter people.
 
 I do use a red-ish theme, can't remember which one, at home but
 on my laptop I only changed the background image on the default
 theme and it's really cool that gtk2 apps now look the same. Wish
 I hadn't put up with the default gtk looks for years and now it
 looks like I have to do that with gtk3 :/
 
 When I was on Window Maker I made some themes of my own.
 Looking at these screenshots makes me feel like a kid again :D
 
 But I do wish making themes for Enlightenment was as easy
 as making wmaker themes back then.
 
 A couple of band-related themes:
 http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-ajattara_theme.jpg
 http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-kotiteollisuus_theme.jpg
 http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-symphonyx_theme.jpg
 which turned out annoying to be actually used, but good finger
 practice.
 
 I used this one for the longest time
 http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-alsashot.png
 
 The one I ended up finally using was this because the image
 is so cool. Guess it was a big hit at the time ;)
 http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/unleash_tacgnol_theme_proto.png
 
 But the story to be learned is that even a clueless kid like
 I-back-then could tell what works and what doesn't. Most themes
 for wmaker were crap - as were most for enlightenment.
 
 Noticing this should be an encouragement for theme makers to
 try a bit harder and I for one will read the links on color
 theory here, because it's all pretty new to me :D
 
 Hopefully get a theme or two ported that I used to use
 to enlightenment some day, but even better :)
 
 Is this still current?
 http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/creating_themes.html
 
 Wasn't there a GUI app for editing Edje files? Googling comes
 up kinda empty, though there seem to be references to something...

there are several. editje in python, enventor is a new one in c (with text +
preview to the left), and eflete (a theme editor geared to elementary with
templates).

for you - i might suggest enventor right now.

but themes for e are massive beasts. there is a reason - they define just about
everything you see. in gory detail. animation, behavior, layout, padding,
sizing, styling, lighting, colors etc. - they are massively powerful. a theme
can just about turn the world upside down in gory nitty pixel-perfect detail
with scaling and resizing and all... but all that power comes with a cost -
complexity. :( you will find themes are not THAT complex, but they are BIG.
they are just more and more and more of ... stuff. ;)

 Thanks!
 
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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful

2014-06-12 Thread Alberto Verdoja
I agree. I've spend one year of free time (not all my free time, but a good
part) to create Radiance and another year for the super green and orange
Bodhi Forum Theme.
I haven't used a lot of GUI, anyway.
Good luck! :)


2014-06-12 10:45 GMT+02:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:

 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:09:22 +0300 Markus Törnqvist m...@nysv.org said:

  On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:31:29PM -0700, mk wrote:
  
  Think of this: why matadors use red (orange is basically red a bit of
 yellow
  added) to excite bulls? Why red is used to mark whorehouses? These
 colors
  are extremely disturbing psychologically speaking.
 
  As a piece of trivia, the Helsinki metro is a horrible orange;
  http://www.raitio.org/metro/kalusto/m100/m100_kuvat/109_ik.jpg
 
 http://areena.yle.fi/static/mk/images/previews/ed/ed1d4916505e4c66a708711296167e2e/47945_preview_620.jpg
 
  The rationale I heard is that when they were originally building it
  in the early 80s, they chose that color because they were afraid
  hobos and others would start hanging out in the metros. This still
  happens in the winters, but the color is meant to deter people.
 
  I do use a red-ish theme, can't remember which one, at home but
  on my laptop I only changed the background image on the default
  theme and it's really cool that gtk2 apps now look the same. Wish
  I hadn't put up with the default gtk looks for years and now it
  looks like I have to do that with gtk3 :/
 
  When I was on Window Maker I made some themes of my own.
  Looking at these screenshots makes me feel like a kid again :D
 
  But I do wish making themes for Enlightenment was as easy
  as making wmaker themes back then.
 
  A couple of band-related themes:
  http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-ajattara_theme.jpg
  http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-kotiteollisuus_theme.jpg
  http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-symphonyx_theme.jpg
  which turned out annoying to be actually used, but good finger
  practice.
 
  I used this one for the longest time
  http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-alsashot.png
 
  The one I ended up finally using was this because the image
  is so cool. Guess it was a big hit at the time ;)
  http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/unleash_tacgnol_theme_proto.png
 
  But the story to be learned is that even a clueless kid like
  I-back-then could tell what works and what doesn't. Most themes
  for wmaker were crap - as were most for enlightenment.
 
  Noticing this should be an encouragement for theme makers to
  try a bit harder and I for one will read the links on color
  theory here, because it's all pretty new to me :D
 
  Hopefully get a theme or two ported that I used to use
  to enlightenment some day, but even better :)
 
  Is this still current?
  http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/creating_themes.html
 
  Wasn't there a GUI app for editing Edje files? Googling comes
  up kinda empty, though there seem to be references to something...

 there are several. editje in python, enventor is a new one in c (with text
 +
 preview to the left), and eflete (a theme editor geared to elementary with
 templates).

 for you - i might suggest enventor right now.

 but themes for e are massive beasts. there is a reason - they define just
 about
 everything you see. in gory detail. animation, behavior, layout, padding,
 sizing, styling, lighting, colors etc. - they are massively powerful. a
 theme
 can just about turn the world upside down in gory nitty pixel-perfect
 detail
 with scaling and resizing and all... but all that power comes with a cost -
 complexity. :( you will find themes are not THAT complex, but they are BIG.
 they are just more and more and more of ... stuff. ;)

  Thanks!
 
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Re: [e-users] Terminology and SCIM

2014-06-12 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
It's not Fedora, it's NVIDIA upstream. their installer is fucked up
and messes with the system in stupid ways sometimes, in this
particular time that spans quite a few driver releases for some arcane
reason they remove libEGL before/after the installer completes.

It is a known issue that is supposed to be fixed (?) in the latest
beta drivers or waiting to be fixed in the next one iirc

(also afaik only the official nvidia .run installer suffers from that,
distro packages (in distro repos?) do not).

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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread Yomi Ogunwumi
I've never used engage.
Screenshot?

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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread Wido
Yomi, engage is 'something like' the macosX bar. Used to work fine

Mik, I'm not sure if it's much helpful but, I've fixed net and mem modules
for e19 without actually knowing much about EFL. What I did was try to
compile and follow the errors. When it failed due to x function not
present, I looked for it in the git repo and did the same thing others
modules did when the api was updated.

Sure mem and net are much less complex that engage, but maybe that helps as
a starting point.


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 I've never used engage.
 Screenshot?

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[e-users] Is it possible to have many kinds of iBars ?

2014-06-12 Thread Pierre Couderc
My idea is to have screens organized for some spacialized tasks and have 
specifics iBars.

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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread mik firestone
That is going to be my approach. I will spend a little time trying to
understand ibox, ibar and tasks. I hope anything I need to know will be in
one of those three.

Mik
On Jun 12, 2014 9:37 AM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yomi, engage is 'something like' the macosX bar. Used to work fine

 Mik, I'm not sure if it's much helpful but, I've fixed net and mem modules
 for e19 without actually knowing much about EFL. What I did was try to
 compile and follow the errors. When it failed due to x function not
 present, I looked for it in the git repo and did the same thing others
 modules did when the api was updated.

 Sure mem and net are much less complex that engage, but maybe that helps as
 a starting point.


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  I've never used engage.
  Screenshot?
 
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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_

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Re: [e-users] Is it possible to have many kinds of iBars ?

2014-06-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:43:02 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:

 My idea is to have screens organized for some spacialized tasks and have 
 specifics iBars.

yes. add more - give the others different names.


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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread Christopher Barry
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:36:39 +0300
Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote:

https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_

There you go, a whole assortment of them :)


While resurrecting engage would be cool, I agree with someone earlier
who thought putting that effort into extending the iBar with
additional engage-like functionality might bear more fruit.
If that's even possible of course...

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[e-users] speaking of themes...

2014-06-12 Thread Christopher Barry

Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png

it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at
least looking like this...)

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Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...

2014-06-12 Thread William
It is unfortunate that there are a number of really fantastic themes out 
there that are no longer maintained. My understanding is that 
compatibility keeps breaking so badly that most of the old designers 
simply threw in the towel and stopped porting (someone correct me if I 
am wrong). Perhaps we need to start a new group of theme designers who 
can take the best of the old themes and bring them up to date while also 
making them better. But truth be told, I myself set out to create a 
theme awhile back, and while I fully understood the process, it struck 
me as being over involved and I have other projects to work on. Perhaps 
I will look up all that information again and take another crack at it.

In fact, can anyone send me a link to that information?


On 06/12/2014 10:18 AM, Christopher Barry wrote:
 Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO)

 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png

 it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at
 least looking like this...)

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Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...

2014-06-12 Thread Tomas Cech

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote:


Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png

it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at
least looking like this...)


Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17. Repository with
E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources:

https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2

HTH,

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Re: [e-users] Terminology and SCIM

2014-06-12 Thread Yomi Ogunwumi
You might want to try this?
https://gist.github.com/Yomi0/9729ad306e9c36b6cc66

That helped fixed some awful font rendering in Firefox, but seemed to break
Chromium's (unless that was already broken in the first place...)

Yomi
On Jun 11, 2014 9:50 PM, Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no wrote:

 On 12/06/14 03:27, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  nope. no one has a gui for them as best i know. xml. have fun. :)
 

 I found fontik in Fedora which handles making the xml just fine, but I
 don't really understand what I need to do.. :p

 I've ended up with a config like this;

 http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-539905ef45b995.94572387.jpg

 but I haven't really noticed any changes and don't know if I should have
 either..

 When I start fontik back up, it says Loading Font Conf File: DejaVu
 Sans Mono but the UI doesn't show the settings I previously entered,
 just the same as it had originally;

 http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-539906ab751d51.43809951.jpg

 This fontconfig stuff doesn't feel very mature to me with the current
 tooling :p

 Guess I'll just have to start reading documentation..

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Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...

2014-06-12 Thread Christopher Barry
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:38:59 +0200
Tomas Cech tc...@suse.cz wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote:

Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png

it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at
least looking like this...)

Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17.
Repository with E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources:

https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2

HTH,

Sleep_Walker

Thanks!

I did find this too, which is derived from it:
http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/+E18_HYBRYDE_Black_Naustrus?content=164743


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Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...

2014-06-12 Thread Albi
http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/23+ounces+of+Glass+AKA
+23_oz?content=147503

Here's the theme cames from.
And this is a version that I've re-updated from an older theme.


Il giorno gio, 12/06/2014 alle 12.02 -0400, Christopher Barry ha
scritto:
 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:38:59 +0200
 Tomas Cech tc...@suse.cz wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote:
 
 Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO)
 
 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png
 
 it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at
 least looking like this...)
 
 Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17.
 Repository with E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources:
 
 https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2
 
 HTH,
 
 Sleep_Walker
 
 Thanks!
 
 I did find this too, which is derived from it:
 http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/+E18_HYBRYDE_Black_Naustrus?content=164743
 
 
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Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...

2014-06-12 Thread Fan Cris
and here is a 23oz
https://git.enlightenment.org/themes/23oz.git/


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Albi a.verd...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/23+ounces+of+Glass+AKA
 +23_oz?content=147503

 Here's the theme cames from.
 And this is a version that I've re-updated from an older theme.


 Il giorno gio, 12/06/2014 alle 12.02 -0400, Christopher Barry ha
 scritto:
  On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:38:59 +0200
  Tomas Cech tc...@suse.cz wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote:
  
  Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO)
  
  
 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png
  
  it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at
  least looking like this...)
  
  Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17.
  Repository with E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources:
  
  
 https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2
  
  HTH,
  
  Sleep_Walker
 
  Thanks!
 
  I did find this too, which is derived from it:
 
 http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/+E18_HYBRYDE_Black_Naustrus?content=164743
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Please add gtkrc to E release (was e: Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful)

2014-06-12 Thread Stefano
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:47:09 +0900
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 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:36 +0100 Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said:
 
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  Rasterman,
  
  your gtkrc theme is the one that integrates better with E. Of course I'm not
  surprised since its yours.
  
  Thanks a lot for sharing it.
 
 i barely tried. like.. barely... it really isn't that great - thus didn't
 include it. if anythng were to be included it'd be some kind of automatic
 gtkrc generator or embedding them in the edj file and extracting them out ..
 but that code is not there. :)
 

Well, I'd say that it's better than nothing anyway, but I respect your choice
of not to include it with E.

Thanks again for sharing.

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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread Wido
I think iBar (e19) has a lot of engage-like thinks, like showing icons for
open applications. The only thing I *think* is not there is enlarging icons
while you hover. And I mean enlarging like macos|engage, not the current
beating it does (which, I actually like most).

Knowing that e19 is full composited makes me thinkg it should be easier to
achieve, since now everything supports alpha in all layers, so you don't
have to worry to 'what's below'.


2014-06-12 11:58 GMT-03:00 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com
:

 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:36:39 +0300
 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_
 
 There you go, a whole assortment of them :)
 

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 who thought putting that effort into extending the iBar with
 additional engage-like functionality might bear more fruit.
 If that's even possible of course...

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Re: [e-users] Terminology and SCIM

2014-06-12 Thread Morten Nilsen
On 12/06/14 17:46, Yomi Ogunwumi wrote:
 You might want to try this?
 https://gist.github.com/Yomi0/9729ad306e9c36b6cc66

 That helped fixed some awful font rendering in Firefox, but seemed to break
 Chromium's (unless that was already broken in the first place...)

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Re: [e-users] engage

2014-06-12 Thread Yomi Ogunwumi
I think extending/incorporating the other gadgets into iBar would make
sense.
Right now we've got iBar, Tasks, and iBox...

Also see : https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/gadget_design/#base-gadgets
Taskbar...

Yomi
On Jun 12, 2014 5:10 PM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think iBar (e19) has a lot of engage-like thinks, like showing icons for
 open applications. The only thing I *think* is not there is enlarging icons
 while you hover. And I mean enlarging like macos|engage, not the current
 beating it does (which, I actually like most).

 Knowing that e19 is full composited makes me thinkg it should be easier to
 achieve, since now everything supports alpha in all layers, so you don't
 have to worry to 'what's below'.


 2014-06-12 11:58 GMT-03:00 Christopher Barry 
 christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com
 :

  On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:36:39 +0300
  Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
 
 https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_
  
  There you go, a whole assortment of them :)
  
 
  While resurrecting engage would be cool, I agree with someone earlier
  who thought putting that effort into extending the iBar with
  additional engage-like functionality might bear more fruit.
  If that's even possible of course...
 
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