Re: [e-users] Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:31:29PM -0700, mk wrote: Think of this: why matadors use red (orange is basically red a bit of yellow added) to excite bulls? Why red is used to mark whorehouses? These colors are extremely disturbing psychologically speaking. As a piece of trivia, the Helsinki metro is a horrible orange; http://www.raitio.org/metro/kalusto/m100/m100_kuvat/109_ik.jpg http://areena.yle.fi/static/mk/images/previews/ed/ed1d4916505e4c66a708711296167e2e/47945_preview_620.jpg The rationale I heard is that when they were originally building it in the early 80s, they chose that color because they were afraid hobos and others would start hanging out in the metros. This still happens in the winters, but the color is meant to deter people. I do use a red-ish theme, can't remember which one, at home but on my laptop I only changed the background image on the default theme and it's really cool that gtk2 apps now look the same. Wish I hadn't put up with the default gtk looks for years and now it looks like I have to do that with gtk3 :/ When I was on Window Maker I made some themes of my own. Looking at these screenshots makes me feel like a kid again :D But I do wish making themes for Enlightenment was as easy as making wmaker themes back then. A couple of band-related themes: http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-ajattara_theme.jpg http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-kotiteollisuus_theme.jpg http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-symphonyx_theme.jpg which turned out annoying to be actually used, but good finger practice. I used this one for the longest time http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-alsashot.png The one I ended up finally using was this because the image is so cool. Guess it was a big hit at the time ;) http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/unleash_tacgnol_theme_proto.png But the story to be learned is that even a clueless kid like I-back-then could tell what works and what doesn't. Most themes for wmaker were crap - as were most for enlightenment. Noticing this should be an encouragement for theme makers to try a bit harder and I for one will read the links on color theory here, because it's all pretty new to me :D Hopefully get a theme or two ported that I used to use to enlightenment some day, but even better :) Is this still current? http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/creating_themes.html Wasn't there a GUI app for editing Edje files? Googling comes up kinda empty, though there seem to be references to something... Thanks! -- mjt -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
Me too, I'm waiting for Engage compiled for new Enlightenment. It is blocking for me - I'm staying on E17... I've checked a bit the code - really difficult to understand WHAT should be refactored for new compositing... Please, someone, help Mik!! Qq On 06/11/2014 06:55, mik firestone wrote: My understanding is that engage hasn't compiled for a while, due to changes in the compositing layer. I really miss engage. I miss it enough I will attempt to fix it. I can code and I have some experience with graphics toolkits. I also have a week or so in the near future where I can focus on getting this working again. Are there any resources that I can use to understand what changed in the compositing layer, or broader resources that I can use to understand how to write a module in general? Thanks, Mik -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Please add gtkrc to E release (was e: Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rasterman, your gtkrc theme is the one that integrates better with E. Of course I'm not surprised since its yours. Thanks a lot for sharing it. It would be great if the theme could be somehow added to E's release or put in a repo or something so that it can be packaged as something like gnome-enlighenment-theme. Possibly, it can be renamed E Clearlooks so that it won't override the standard Clearlooks theme. As I already mentioned in the past, it would also be great if one could have an X11 mouse pointer that blends with E's default one (e.g. it's weird to see one's pointer change when clicking on Firefox tabs). Just a thought, - -- Stefano P.S. Personally, I don't find E ugly and awful at all. I have been playing with themes in E17 but I stuck with E18's default because it one of the best dark themes ever. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTmVwIAAoJEFQWuLhMTpvmz2cH/3/HH1J90pUS4+JSVvLO2Zvv etO/3KaAX8J6ZHyBmMQ1mkHU/G+6ANsv2GpOGiK7IWj9OyXyI3itepRVpwSocNJW yRAL81IoOV01OBTcZRVm1+BN6i4xjTSAZHiSWQ0kfAlMiU/LS3vp3HRrJNK2nbbZ 9YFChoyeFsgxYMnqrizEJlAQhfS+gnDy1XH9DLqLauqEMTlPN92N7hYGOlyyT1Km RG16yadfvKBynKNvJo2XixOnvXmXoYesyFQi15EEOFAHi2s8zoOCbNaxRqj1/0g9 ykz+96TolcLuwGhoc/gkY96Ndsc61SHc323W+xYBHYOHHadRp3F18cDq6NZJabY= =HF+m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Please add gtkrc to E release (was e: Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful)
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:36 +0100 Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rasterman, your gtkrc theme is the one that integrates better with E. Of course I'm not surprised since its yours. Thanks a lot for sharing it. i barely tried. like.. barely... it really isn't that great - thus didn't include it. if anythng were to be included it'd be some kind of automatic gtkrc generator or embedding them in the edj file and extracting them out .. but that code is not there. :) It would be great if the theme could be somehow added to E's release or put in a repo or something so that it can be packaged as something like gnome-enlighenment-theme. Possibly, it can be renamed E Clearlooks so that it won't override the standard Clearlooks theme. As I already mentioned in the past, it would also be great if one could have an X11 mouse pointer that blends with E's default one (e.g. it's weird to see one's pointer change when clicking on Firefox tabs). Just a thought, - -- Stefano P.S. Personally, I don't find E ugly and awful at all. I have been playing with themes in E17 but I stuck with E18's default because it one of the best dark themes ever. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTmVwIAAoJEFQWuLhMTpvmz2cH/3/HH1J90pUS4+JSVvLO2Zvv etO/3KaAX8J6ZHyBmMQ1mkHU/G+6ANsv2GpOGiK7IWj9OyXyI3itepRVpwSocNJW yRAL81IoOV01OBTcZRVm1+BN6i4xjTSAZHiSWQ0kfAlMiU/LS3vp3HRrJNK2nbbZ 9YFChoyeFsgxYMnqrizEJlAQhfS+gnDy1XH9DLqLauqEMTlPN92N7hYGOlyyT1Km RG16yadfvKBynKNvJo2XixOnvXmXoYesyFQi15EEOFAHi2s8zoOCbNaxRqj1/0g9 ykz+96TolcLuwGhoc/gkY96Ndsc61SHc323W+xYBHYOHHadRp3F18cDq6NZJabY= =HF+m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:09:22 +0300 Markus Törnqvist m...@nysv.org said: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:31:29PM -0700, mk wrote: Think of this: why matadors use red (orange is basically red a bit of yellow added) to excite bulls? Why red is used to mark whorehouses? These colors are extremely disturbing psychologically speaking. As a piece of trivia, the Helsinki metro is a horrible orange; http://www.raitio.org/metro/kalusto/m100/m100_kuvat/109_ik.jpg http://areena.yle.fi/static/mk/images/previews/ed/ed1d4916505e4c66a708711296167e2e/47945_preview_620.jpg The rationale I heard is that when they were originally building it in the early 80s, they chose that color because they were afraid hobos and others would start hanging out in the metros. This still happens in the winters, but the color is meant to deter people. I do use a red-ish theme, can't remember which one, at home but on my laptop I only changed the background image on the default theme and it's really cool that gtk2 apps now look the same. Wish I hadn't put up with the default gtk looks for years and now it looks like I have to do that with gtk3 :/ When I was on Window Maker I made some themes of my own. Looking at these screenshots makes me feel like a kid again :D But I do wish making themes for Enlightenment was as easy as making wmaker themes back then. A couple of band-related themes: http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-ajattara_theme.jpg http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-kotiteollisuus_theme.jpg http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-symphonyx_theme.jpg which turned out annoying to be actually used, but good finger practice. I used this one for the longest time http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-alsashot.png The one I ended up finally using was this because the image is so cool. Guess it was a big hit at the time ;) http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/unleash_tacgnol_theme_proto.png But the story to be learned is that even a clueless kid like I-back-then could tell what works and what doesn't. Most themes for wmaker were crap - as were most for enlightenment. Noticing this should be an encouragement for theme makers to try a bit harder and I for one will read the links on color theory here, because it's all pretty new to me :D Hopefully get a theme or two ported that I used to use to enlightenment some day, but even better :) Is this still current? http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/creating_themes.html Wasn't there a GUI app for editing Edje files? Googling comes up kinda empty, though there seem to be references to something... there are several. editje in python, enventor is a new one in c (with text + preview to the left), and eflete (a theme editor geared to elementary with templates). for you - i might suggest enventor right now. but themes for e are massive beasts. there is a reason - they define just about everything you see. in gory detail. animation, behavior, layout, padding, sizing, styling, lighting, colors etc. - they are massively powerful. a theme can just about turn the world upside down in gory nitty pixel-perfect detail with scaling and resizing and all... but all that power comes with a cost - complexity. :( you will find themes are not THAT complex, but they are BIG. they are just more and more and more of ... stuff. ;) Thanks! -- mjt -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful
I agree. I've spend one year of free time (not all my free time, but a good part) to create Radiance and another year for the super green and orange Bodhi Forum Theme. I haven't used a lot of GUI, anyway. Good luck! :) 2014-06-12 10:45 GMT+02:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:09:22 +0300 Markus Törnqvist m...@nysv.org said: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:31:29PM -0700, mk wrote: Think of this: why matadors use red (orange is basically red a bit of yellow added) to excite bulls? Why red is used to mark whorehouses? These colors are extremely disturbing psychologically speaking. As a piece of trivia, the Helsinki metro is a horrible orange; http://www.raitio.org/metro/kalusto/m100/m100_kuvat/109_ik.jpg http://areena.yle.fi/static/mk/images/previews/ed/ed1d4916505e4c66a708711296167e2e/47945_preview_620.jpg The rationale I heard is that when they were originally building it in the early 80s, they chose that color because they were afraid hobos and others would start hanging out in the metros. This still happens in the winters, but the color is meant to deter people. I do use a red-ish theme, can't remember which one, at home but on my laptop I only changed the background image on the default theme and it's really cool that gtk2 apps now look the same. Wish I hadn't put up with the default gtk looks for years and now it looks like I have to do that with gtk3 :/ When I was on Window Maker I made some themes of my own. Looking at these screenshots makes me feel like a kid again :D But I do wish making themes for Enlightenment was as easy as making wmaker themes back then. A couple of band-related themes: http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-ajattara_theme.jpg http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-kotiteollisuus_theme.jpg http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-symphonyx_theme.jpg which turned out annoying to be actually used, but good finger practice. I used this one for the longest time http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/entil-alsashot.png The one I ended up finally using was this because the image is so cool. Guess it was a big hit at the time ;) http://mjt.nysv.org/screenshots/unleash_tacgnol_theme_proto.png But the story to be learned is that even a clueless kid like I-back-then could tell what works and what doesn't. Most themes for wmaker were crap - as were most for enlightenment. Noticing this should be an encouragement for theme makers to try a bit harder and I for one will read the links on color theory here, because it's all pretty new to me :D Hopefully get a theme or two ported that I used to use to enlightenment some day, but even better :) Is this still current? http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/creating_themes.html Wasn't there a GUI app for editing Edje files? Googling comes up kinda empty, though there seem to be references to something... there are several. editje in python, enventor is a new one in c (with text + preview to the left), and eflete (a theme editor geared to elementary with templates). for you - i might suggest enventor right now. but themes for e are massive beasts. there is a reason - they define just about everything you see. in gory detail. animation, behavior, layout, padding, sizing, styling, lighting, colors etc. - they are massively powerful. a theme can just about turn the world upside down in gory nitty pixel-perfect detail with scaling and resizing and all... but all that power comes with a cost - complexity. :( you will find themes are not THAT complex, but they are BIG. they are just more and more and more of ... stuff. ;) Thanks! -- mjt -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [e-users] Terminology and SCIM
It's not Fedora, it's NVIDIA upstream. their installer is fucked up and messes with the system in stupid ways sometimes, in this particular time that spans quite a few driver releases for some arcane reason they remove libEGL before/after the installer completes. It is a known issue that is supposed to be fixed (?) in the latest beta drivers or waiting to be fixed in the next one iirc (also afaik only the official nvidia .run installer suffers from that, distro packages (in distro repos?) do not). -- Regards, Alex-P. Natsios (a.k.a Drakevr) -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
I've never used engage. Screenshot? Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
Yomi, engage is 'something like' the macosX bar. Used to work fine Mik, I'm not sure if it's much helpful but, I've fixed net and mem modules for e19 without actually knowing much about EFL. What I did was try to compile and follow the errors. When it failed due to x function not present, I looked for it in the git repo and did the same thing others modules did when the api was updated. Sure mem and net are much less complex that engage, but maybe that helps as a starting point. 2014-06-12 10:20 GMT-03:00 Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com: I've never used engage. Screenshot? Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Is it possible to have many kinds of iBars ?
My idea is to have screens organized for some spacialized tasks and have specifics iBars. -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
That is going to be my approach. I will spend a little time trying to understand ibox, ibar and tasks. I hope anything I need to know will be in one of those three. Mik On Jun 12, 2014 9:37 AM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote: Yomi, engage is 'something like' the macosX bar. Used to work fine Mik, I'm not sure if it's much helpful but, I've fixed net and mem modules for e19 without actually knowing much about EFL. What I did was try to compile and follow the errors. When it failed due to x function not present, I looked for it in the git repo and did the same thing others modules did when the api was updated. Sure mem and net are much less complex that engage, but maybe that helps as a starting point. 2014-06-12 10:20 GMT-03:00 Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com: I've never used engage. Screenshot? Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_ There you go, a whole assortment of them :) -- Regards, Alex-P. Natsios (a.k.a Drakevr) -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Is it possible to have many kinds of iBars ?
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:43:02 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said: My idea is to have screens organized for some spacialized tasks and have specifics iBars. yes. add more - give the others different names. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:36:39 +0300 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote: https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_ There you go, a whole assortment of them :) While resurrecting engage would be cool, I agree with someone earlier who thought putting that effort into extending the iBar with additional engage-like functionality might bear more fruit. If that's even possible of course... -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: Freedom is still the most radical idea of all. -- Nathaniel Branden -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] speaking of themes...
Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at least looking like this...) -- Regards, Christopher Barry -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...
It is unfortunate that there are a number of really fantastic themes out there that are no longer maintained. My understanding is that compatibility keeps breaking so badly that most of the old designers simply threw in the towel and stopped porting (someone correct me if I am wrong). Perhaps we need to start a new group of theme designers who can take the best of the old themes and bring them up to date while also making them better. But truth be told, I myself set out to create a theme awhile back, and while I fully understood the process, it struck me as being over involved and I have other projects to work on. Perhaps I will look up all that information again and take another crack at it. In fact, can anyone send me a link to that information? On 06/12/2014 10:18 AM, Christopher Barry wrote: Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at least looking like this...) -- Regards, Christopher Barry -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...
Hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote: Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at least looking like this...) Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17. Repository with E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources: https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2 HTH, Sleep_Walker -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Terminology and SCIM
You might want to try this? https://gist.github.com/Yomi0/9729ad306e9c36b6cc66 That helped fixed some awful font rendering in Firefox, but seemed to break Chromium's (unless that was already broken in the first place...) Yomi On Jun 11, 2014 9:50 PM, Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no wrote: On 12/06/14 03:27, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: nope. no one has a gui for them as best i know. xml. have fun. :) I found fontik in Fedora which handles making the xml just fine, but I don't really understand what I need to do.. :p I've ended up with a config like this; http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-539905ef45b995.94572387.jpg but I haven't really noticed any changes and don't know if I should have either.. When I start fontik back up, it says Loading Font Conf File: DejaVu Sans Mono but the UI doesn't show the settings I previously entered, just the same as it had originally; http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-539906ab751d51.43809951.jpg This fontconfig stuff doesn't feel very mature to me with the current tooling :p Guess I'll just have to start reading documentation.. -- Cheers, Dr. P :wq -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:38:59 +0200 Tomas Cech tc...@suse.cz wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote: Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at least looking like this...) Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17. Repository with E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources: https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2 HTH, Sleep_Walker Thanks! I did find this too, which is derived from it: http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/+E18_HYBRYDE_Black_Naustrus?content=164743 -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: The optimist thinks that this is the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist knows it. -- J. Robert Oppenheimer, Bulletin of Atomic Scientists -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...
http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/23+ounces+of+Glass+AKA +23_oz?content=147503 Here's the theme cames from. And this is a version that I've re-updated from an older theme. Il giorno gio, 12/06/2014 alle 12.02 -0400, Christopher Barry ha scritto: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:38:59 +0200 Tomas Cech tc...@suse.cz wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote: Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at least looking like this...) Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17. Repository with E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources: https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2 HTH, Sleep_Walker Thanks! I did find this too, which is derived from it: http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/+E18_HYBRYDE_Black_Naustrus?content=164743 -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: The optimist thinks that this is the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist knows it. -- J. Robert Oppenheimer, Bulletin of Atomic Scientists -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] speaking of themes...
and here is a 23oz https://git.enlightenment.org/themes/23oz.git/ On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Albi a.verd...@gmail.com wrote: http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/23+ounces+of+Glass+AKA +23_oz?content=147503 Here's the theme cames from. And this is a version that I've re-updated from an older theme. Il giorno gio, 12/06/2014 alle 12.02 -0400, Christopher Barry ha scritto: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:38:59 +0200 Tomas Cech tc...@suse.cz wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Christopher Barry wrote: Now THIS is a very slick theme (IMO) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ds86SgX4Lvg/UJRRQn0HznI/OFg/crWR_3hbwC4/s1600/Screenshot-5.png it was called A-Black-Nostrum, but it appears to not exist anymore (at least looking like this...) Not my cup of tea, but It was packaged for openSUSE, for E17. Repository with E17 seems to be broken but you can still get sources: https://build.opensuse.org/source/X11:Enlightenment:E17:Factory/e-theme-a-os-black-nostrum/A-OS-Black-Nostrum.tar.bz2 HTH, Sleep_Walker Thanks! I did find this too, which is derived from it: http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/+E18_HYBRYDE_Black_Naustrus?content=164743 -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: The optimist thinks that this is the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist knows it. -- J. Robert Oppenheimer, Bulletin of Atomic Scientists -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Please add gtkrc to E release (was e: Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:47:09 +0900 CH(R wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:36 +0100 Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rasterman, your gtkrc theme is the one that integrates better with E. Of course I'm not surprised since its yours. Thanks a lot for sharing it. i barely tried. like.. barely... it really isn't that great - thus didn't include it. if anythng were to be included it'd be some kind of automatic gtkrc generator or embedding them in the edj file and extracting them out .. but that code is not there. :) Well, I'd say that it's better than nothing anyway, but I respect your choice of not to include it with E. Thanks again for sharing. Best, - -- Stefano Fortune of the day: Excellent time to become a missing person. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTmf/7AAoJEFQWuLhMTpvmPngIAIfoYJRjLXoiuWiiZotik1hg Fs1C/3N2rb3VV3qbQGnCMkBKFCJip4G+vc/6jI70ngfOrPNOSbM7wP7unsu3pb4q 8CubPNek6WjkrdwwXBElkCIRpTanJaHHLQxDh37n9eZepubhSNc5ArS5cZwsSOUn glVWqUNh+lp8kE+flPllpZthP4psFxRrDCEKuRl8BVQCOXOyRBY48valV3VFzEvs 1wM/C/mFG9YUy3INyWj+dczhuarCMlCwaZ2sT9ieeSzHR+c2hHzlHXoSNttwmUES 8a3U18bE9N1Wz9mVbbPjmUo0JDxQaMlfH1F+GW5eC9PH2YZSfFRoWAHUMO1A29E= =bkW/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
I think iBar (e19) has a lot of engage-like thinks, like showing icons for open applications. The only thing I *think* is not there is enlarging icons while you hover. And I mean enlarging like macos|engage, not the current beating it does (which, I actually like most). Knowing that e19 is full composited makes me thinkg it should be easier to achieve, since now everything supports alpha in all layers, so you don't have to worry to 'what's below'. 2014-06-12 11:58 GMT-03:00 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com : On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:36:39 +0300 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote: https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_ There you go, a whole assortment of them :) While resurrecting engage would be cool, I agree with someone earlier who thought putting that effort into extending the iBar with additional engage-like functionality might bear more fruit. If that's even possible of course... -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: Freedom is still the most radical idea of all. -- Nathaniel Branden -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Terminology and SCIM
On 12/06/14 17:46, Yomi Ogunwumi wrote: You might want to try this? https://gist.github.com/Yomi0/9729ad306e9c36b6cc66 That helped fixed some awful font rendering in Firefox, but seemed to break Chromium's (unless that was already broken in the first place...) Thanks, I'll give it a go! -- Cheers, Dr. P :wq -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
I think extending/incorporating the other gadgets into iBar would make sense. Right now we've got iBar, Tasks, and iBox... Also see : https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/gadget_design/#base-gadgets Taskbar... Yomi On Jun 12, 2014 5:10 PM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote: I think iBar (e19) has a lot of engage-like thinks, like showing icons for open applications. The only thing I *think* is not there is enlarging icons while you hover. And I mean enlarging like macos|engage, not the current beating it does (which, I actually like most). Knowing that e19 is full composited makes me thinkg it should be easier to achieve, since now everything supports alpha in all layers, so you don't have to worry to 'what's below'. 2014-06-12 11:58 GMT-03:00 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com : On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:36:39 +0300 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote: https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_ There you go, a whole assortment of them :) While resurrecting engage would be cool, I agree with someone earlier who thought putting that effort into extending the iBar with additional engage-like functionality might bear more fruit. If that's even possible of course... -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: Freedom is still the most radical idea of all. -- Nathaniel Branden -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users