Re: [e-users] Enlightenment on Ubuntu 16.04

[The Rasterman]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 21:00:58 + Peter Flynn  said:

> On 11/01/2016 12:10 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/01/2016 08:32 AM, Peter Flynn wrote:
> >> I have been (and still am) running e18 without problems on Xubuntu 15.10
> >> but I just upgraded a system to 16.04 and found that the only packaged
> >> version in the repos was e17!
> >>
> >> Does anyone know why this has gone backwards?
> >>
> >> I know I should be using e20, but the PPA doesn't support 16.04 yet.
> >>
> >> ///Peter
> >>
> > 
> > Well were now at 21.3, Ubuntu doesn't have an active community
> > maintainer, for enlightenment, 
> 
> Maybe when I retire (2018) I can look at that. Problem is, I'm a *user*
> of Enlightenment: I have to have a fully-working system, not an
> experimental one. Right now e18 has been fairly solid.
> 
> But the real puzzle is why Xenial went retrograde and used e17 instead
> of e18. I posted the same message to the xubuntu list but no reply so far.
> 
> > if you really want to use enlightenment
> > on ubuntu its probably best to build efl and it yourself, with some
> > package merges the number of things you need to build now is quite small.
> 
> I've never had any luck building systems that big. Downloading a GNU
> utility and typing ./configure;make;make install usually works, but with
> larger applications there's always a dozen utterly unresolvable
> conflicts because the devs are all on custom-built kernels and systems
> and have used libraries that can't be installed on regular distros
> because they conflict with the underlying system. Deeply frustrating.
> 
> I might dig out an old sacrificial system and install virgin Xenial
> where I can go ahead and break things.

that's not us. i just installed efl+_e on raspbian (i did have to switch to
testing as the jessie release was too old deps-wise for wayland, but for
everything else it was fine without switching to testing). i just had to
apt-get install dependencies and presto. it built and worked. the system doesnt
have a custom kernel or in fact custom ANYTHING except the builds of efl, e,
terminology, rage etc. in /usr/local.

you shouldn't apply your general experience like above to us i think. we're
really good at not needing anything bizarre or custom or special.


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Re: [e-users] Need help with NetworkManager / Gnome stuff under E ...

[The Rasterman]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:52:28 +1100 Daniel Kasak  said:

> Hi all.
> 
> I just switched jobs ( yay ) and the new one has a wireless network
> with WPA2 security, PEAP auth, and a CA certificate.
> 
> When I set this up in the gnome control panel, running under gnome, it
> connects fine. But when I launch E after booting, I get a cryptic
> error in systemd logs:
> 
> No agents were available for this request
> 
> I guess there are some gnome services that are required that aren't
> running for me under E? Does anyone know what I'm missing?

i don't know but i might guess that gnome talks to networkwrmanager over dbus
and advertises/provides this "auth agent" which would require popping up a
password or something dialog and passing it back to networkmanager. we hve no
such code in e... :/ you could run nm-client or whatever it is? we removed
xmbed systray support so as long as nm-client supports the app indicator dbus
protocol it should be ok i think... if not there are 3rd party tray apps like
trayer or others.


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Re: [e-users] Need help with NetworkManager / Gnome stuff under E ...

[Simon Lees]

On 11/02/2016 11:22 AM, Daniel Kasak wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I just switched jobs ( yay ) and the new one has a wireless network
> with WPA2 security, PEAP auth, and a CA certificate.
> 
> When I set this up in the gnome control panel, running under gnome, it
> connects fine. But when I launch E after booting, I get a cryptic
> error in systemd logs:
> 
> No agents were available for this request
> 
> I guess there are some gnome services that are required that aren't
> running for me under E? Does anyone know what I'm missing?
> 
> Dan
> 

Is efl / e built with systemd support? if so it should (TM) just work if
not another alternative is to run some other policykit agent at startup,
most distro's ship the LXDE one as a standalone package which works
otherwise there is a couple of others that can be used. Its also
possible to get nm-applet running in the systray if its built with the
following configure flag "--with-appindicator" or something similar
anyway although that maybe broken in the last release.

In enlightenments startup app section i'm also starting "Certificate and
Key Storage" although I don't remember if thats related.

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[e-users] Need help with NetworkManager / Gnome stuff under E ...

[Daniel Kasak]

Hi all.

I just switched jobs ( yay ) and the new one has a wireless network
with WPA2 security, PEAP auth, and a CA certificate.

When I set this up in the gnome control panel, running under gnome, it
connects fine. But when I launch E after booting, I get a cryptic
error in systemd logs:

No agents were available for this request

I guess there are some gnome services that are required that aren't
running for me under E? Does anyone know what I'm missing?

Dan

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment on Ubuntu 16.04

[Peter Flynn]

On 11/01/2016 12:10 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/01/2016 08:32 AM, Peter Flynn wrote:
>> I have been (and still am) running e18 without problems on Xubuntu 15.10
>> but I just upgraded a system to 16.04 and found that the only packaged
>> version in the repos was e17!
>>
>> Does anyone know why this has gone backwards?
>>
>> I know I should be using e20, but the PPA doesn't support 16.04 yet.
>>
>> ///Peter
>>
> 
> Well were now at 21.3, Ubuntu doesn't have an active community
> maintainer, for enlightenment, 

Maybe when I retire (2018) I can look at that. Problem is, I'm a *user*
of Enlightenment: I have to have a fully-working system, not an
experimental one. Right now e18 has been fairly solid.

But the real puzzle is why Xenial went retrograde and used e17 instead
of e18. I posted the same message to the xubuntu list but no reply so far.

> if you really want to use enlightenment
> on ubuntu its probably best to build efl and it yourself, with some
> package merges the number of things you need to build now is quite small.

I've never had any luck building systems that big. Downloading a GNU
utility and typing ./configure;make;make install usually works, but with
larger applications there's always a dozen utterly unresolvable
conflicts because the devs are all on custom-built kernels and systems
and have used libraries that can't be installed on regular distros
because they conflict with the underlying system. Deeply frustrating.

I might dig out an old sacrificial system and install virgin Xenial
where I can go ahead and break things.

///Peter


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Re: [e-users] ***SPAM*** Re: Enlightenment on Ubuntu 16.04

[Philippe Jean Guillaumie]

Le 01/11/2016 à 01:10, Simon Lees a écrit :
>
>
> On 11/01/2016 08:32 AM, Peter Flynn wrote:
>> I have been (and still am) running e18 without problems on Xubuntu 15.10
>> but I just upgraded a system to 16.04 and found that the only packaged
>> version in the repos was e17!
>>
>> Does anyone know why this has gone backwards?
>>
>> I know I should be using e20, but the PPA doesn't support 16.04 yet.
>>
>> ///Peter
>>
>
> Well were now at 21.3, Ubuntu doesn't have an active community
> maintainer, for enlightenment, if you really want to use enlightenment
> on ubuntu its probably best to build efl and it yourself, with some
> package merges the number of things you need to build now is quite small.


Git code is generally very stable these days.

Easy build script here (X/K/Ubuntu):

http://dazibao.perso.sfr.fr/HTML/index.html



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