Re: [e-users] Acpi events

[The Rasterman]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:49:09 +0100 Massimo Maiurana  said:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/03/2017 alle 00:11:
> > On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:50:13 +0100 Massimo Maiurana 
> > said:
> > 
> >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/03/2017 alle 04:02:
> >>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:49:00 +0100 Massimo Maiurana 
> >>> said:
> >>>
>  Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 14:29:
> > Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23:
> >> On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I finally bought a brand new laptop :)
> >>>
> >>> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did but I
> >>> have two problems to solve.
> >>>
> >>> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should
> >>> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid
> >>> open resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed
> >>> so probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome.
> >>
> >> I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need
> >> to install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you boot
> >> up. Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid which by
> >> default will suspend to ram.  Check what you have at Settings >
> >> Settings Panel > Input 
> >>> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed.  I have set mine to 'Suspend
> >>> Intelligently' and 
> >> it works as advertised.
> >
> > Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think
> > acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid close
> > wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try installing it and
> > see if it solves the problem.
> 
>  Well, I installed acpid, now lid events are recognized but an old issue
>  is back: dpms.
>  Before installing acpid screen blanking did work as expected, after
>  reaching timeout the screen was really blanked out, with acpid installed
>  the backlight is never turned off so it is more an obscuring than a
>  blanking. Indeed "xset q" says that dmps is off :/
> >>>
> >>> e enables dpms no matter what (unless blanking is off). unless something
> >>> else modified dpms after e changed it... it should stay there. if you
> >>> restart e it should go back to being set (ctrl+alt+end not  log out and
> >>> log in). acpid itself would not do this at all as it doesn't know about
> >>> x. i suspect something like gnome-settings-daemon is doing this. poke
> >>> there.
> >>
> >> Indeed that does the trick, dpms is enabled if I restart E. And yes,
> >> gnome-settings-daemon is running, probably because gdm pulls it in. Is
> >> there a way I can prevent gsd from starting and/or make it not mess with
> >> dpms settings?
> > 
> > kill it before e starts? :) use a ~/.xsession to do it then run
> > enlightenment_start ?
> 
> I can't kill it as a user, don't have permissions to do it because it is
> launched by user Debian-gdm :(

then stop using gdm... use lightdm, xdm, slim ... something else...?

> >>> The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated with
> >>> all applications, including my own in ~/.local/share/applications,
> >>> but only 3 of them have an icon associated (a custom of mine,
> >>> gnome-font-viewer and the E filemanager). Also, much more annoying,
> >>> evry doesn't list desktop applications in the list that appears when
> >>> I start typing, only executables and directories are listed.
> >>
> >> Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should give
> >> you some options.  One of these ought to make all/most application
> >> icons to show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings
> >> > Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected.
> >
> > I DO have applications in menu, my problem is not that. What I miss is
> > icons for applications, but for that three applications mentioned above
> > that have an icon in their own menu entry. If "disable icons" was
> > checked I wouldn't have any icon neither for those three ;)
> >
> > Also, as said, I don't have applications displayed in evry.
> > E.g. on the other laptop if I type "ice" in evry I see the icedove icon
> > and so I can launch that application; I also see the icedove binary but
> > can distinguish between them because the application starts with a
> > capital letter and also displays an icon. In this laptop if i type "ice"
> > I see only the icedove executable, not the application.
> >
> > Other example: I have a custom application named "Bpiol", which executes
> > a binary called "launcher_linux.bat". If I type "bp" I don't see the
> > application, and because the executable doesn't have the same name I
> > 

Re: [e-users] Acpi events

[Massimo Maiurana]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/03/2017 alle 00:11:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:50:13 +0100 Massimo Maiurana  said:
> 
>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/03/2017 alle 04:02:
>>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:49:00 +0100 Massimo Maiurana 
>>> said:
>>>
 Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 14:29:
> Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23:
>> On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I finally bought a brand new laptop :)
>>>
>>> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did but I
>>> have two problems to solve.
>>>
>>> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should
>>> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid open
>>> resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed so
>>> probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome.
>>
>> I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need to 
>> install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you boot
>> up. Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid which by
>> default will suspend to ram.  Check what you have at Settings > Settings
>> Panel > Input 
>>> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed.  I have set mine to 'Suspend Intelligently'
>>> and 
>> it works as advertised.
>
> Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think
> acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid close
> wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try installing it and
> see if it solves the problem.

 Well, I installed acpid, now lid events are recognized but an old issue
 is back: dpms.
 Before installing acpid screen blanking did work as expected, after
 reaching timeout the screen was really blanked out, with acpid installed
 the backlight is never turned off so it is more an obscuring than a
 blanking. Indeed "xset q" says that dmps is off :/
>>>
>>> e enables dpms no matter what (unless blanking is off). unless something
>>> else modified dpms after e changed it... it should stay there. if you
>>> restart e it should go back to being set (ctrl+alt+end not  log out and log
>>> in). acpid itself would not do this at all as it doesn't know about x. i
>>> suspect something like gnome-settings-daemon is doing this. poke there.
>>
>> Indeed that does the trick, dpms is enabled if I restart E. And yes,
>> gnome-settings-daemon is running, probably because gdm pulls it in. Is
>> there a way I can prevent gsd from starting and/or make it not mess with
>> dpms settings?
> 
> kill it before e starts? :) use a ~/.xsession to do it then run
> enlightenment_start ?

I can't kill it as a user, don't have permissions to do it because it is
launched by user Debian-gdm :(

>>> The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated with all
>>> applications, including my own in ~/.local/share/applications, but only
>>> 3 of them have an icon associated (a custom of mine, gnome-font-viewer
>>> and the E filemanager). Also, much more annoying, evry doesn't list
>>> desktop applications in the list that appears when I start typing, only
>>> executables and directories are listed.
>>
>> Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should give you
>> some options.  One of these ought to make all/most application icons to
>> show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings >
>> Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected.
>
> I DO have applications in menu, my problem is not that. What I miss is
> icons for applications, but for that three applications mentioned above
> that have an icon in their own menu entry. If "disable icons" was
> checked I wouldn't have any icon neither for those three ;)
>
> Also, as said, I don't have applications displayed in evry.
> E.g. on the other laptop if I type "ice" in evry I see the icedove icon
> and so I can launch that application; I also see the icedove binary but
> can distinguish between them because the application starts with a
> capital letter and also displays an icon. In this laptop if i type "ice"
> I see only the icedove executable, not the application.
>
> Other example: I have a custom application named "Bpiol", which executes
> a binary called "launcher_linux.bat". If I type "bp" I don't see the
> application, and because the executable doesn't have the same name I
> don't see nothing. But evry displays menu categories as dirs, so if I
> browse that dirs I can reach any application including "Bpiol".
>
>> To configure Everything, check your settings under Settings > Settings
>> Panel > Launcher.
>>
>> HTH  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>