On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:49:09 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/03/2017 alle 00:11:
> > On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:50:13 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
> > said:
> > 
> >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/03/2017 alle 04:02:
> >>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:49:00 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
> >>> said:
> >>>
> >>>> Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 14:29:
> >>>>> Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23:
> >>>>>> On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>> I finally bought a brand new laptop :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did but I
> >>>>>>> have two problems to solve.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should
> >>>>>>> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid
> >>>>>>> open resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed
> >>>>>>> so probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need
> >>>>>> to install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you boot
> >>>>>> up. Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid which by
> >>>>>> default will suspend to ram.  Check what you have at Settings >
> >>>>>> Settings Panel > Input 
> >>>>>>> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed.  I have set mine to 'Suspend
> >>>>>>> Intelligently' and 
> >>>>>> it works as advertised.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think
> >>>>> acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid close
> >>>>> wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try installing it and
> >>>>> see if it solves the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I installed acpid, now lid events are recognized but an old issue
> >>>> is back: dpms.
> >>>> Before installing acpid screen blanking did work as expected, after
> >>>> reaching timeout the screen was really blanked out, with acpid installed
> >>>> the backlight is never turned off so it is more an obscuring than a
> >>>> blanking. Indeed "xset q" says that dmps is off :/
> >>>
> >>> e enables dpms no matter what (unless blanking is off). unless something
> >>> else modified dpms after e changed it... it should stay there. if you
> >>> restart e it should go back to being set (ctrl+alt+end not  log out and
> >>> log in). acpid itself would not do this at all as it doesn't know about
> >>> x. i suspect something like gnome-settings-daemon is doing this. poke
> >>> there.
> >>
> >> Indeed that does the trick, dpms is enabled if I restart E. And yes,
> >> gnome-settings-daemon is running, probably because gdm pulls it in. Is
> >> there a way I can prevent gsd from starting and/or make it not mess with
> >> dpms settings?
> > 
> > kill it before e starts? :) use a ~/.xsession to do it then run
> > enlightenment_start ?
> 
> I can't kill it as a user, don't have permissions to do it because it is
> launched by user Debian-gdm :(

then stop using gdm... use lightdm, xdm, slim ... something else...?

> >>>>>>> The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated with
> >>>>>>> all applications, including my own in ~/.local/share/applications,
> >>>>>>> but only 3 of them have an icon associated (a custom of mine,
> >>>>>>> gnome-font-viewer and the E filemanager). Also, much more annoying,
> >>>>>>> evry doesn't list desktop applications in the list that appears when
> >>>>>>> I start typing, only executables and directories are listed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should give
> >>>>>> you some options.  One of these ought to make all/most application
> >>>>>> icons to show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings
> >>>>>> > Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I DO have applications in menu, my problem is not that. What I miss is
> >>>>> icons for applications, but for that three applications mentioned above
> >>>>> that have an icon in their own menu entry. If "disable icons" was
> >>>>> checked I wouldn't have any icon neither for those three ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, as said, I don't have applications displayed in evry.
> >>>>> E.g. on the other laptop if I type "ice" in evry I see the icedove icon
> >>>>> and so I can launch that application; I also see the icedove binary but
> >>>>> can distinguish between them because the application starts with a
> >>>>> capital letter and also displays an icon. In this laptop if i type "ice"
> >>>>> I see only the icedove executable, not the application.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other example: I have a custom application named "Bpiol", which executes
> >>>>> a binary called "launcher_linux.bat". If I type "bp" I don't see the
> >>>>> application, and because the executable doesn't have the same name I
> >>>>> don't see nothing. But evry displays menu categories as dirs, so if I
> >>>>> browse that dirs I can reach any application including "Bpiol".
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> To configure Everything, check your settings under Settings > Settings
> >>>>>> Panel > Launcher.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> HTH  :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Massimo Maiurana
> >>>> Ragusa (RG)
> >>>>
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> >> Massimo Maiurana
> >> Ragusa (RG)
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Massimo Maiurana
> Ragusa (RG)
> 


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