[e-users] EFL 1.19.0 beta 4
Most likely the last beta before the final release. Please take it for a good ride. **Download** http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/efl/efl-1.19.0-beta4.tar.gz 332761cacf112007f76229bed2f764fad7e32fb8b082c21823ca4e1721a4d9ee http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/efl/efl-1.19.0-beta4.tar.xz 0012100bbe8538a9dc2b099c0590d4d2fd459c4bd5a01421d21c546f9449b07f **Fixes:** * elementary: Fix minor typo in efl_ui_win.eo * evas: drop redundant pointer check (CID1371525) * gengrid: avoid call select callback twice in mode ELM_OBJECT_MULTI_SELECT_MODE_WITH_CONTROL * evas table: CRI when attempting to pack a table child into another table * theme: remove event gaps in enlightenment window frames * genlist: Fix another issue with insert sorted (T5274) * elm_map: Fix work of elm_map_overlay_icon_set if icon is NULL. * elm_code: fix keyboard selection forward * evas: Fix a rare issue with GL and map and mask * Eina_Xattr: fix memory corruption * ecore audio: Fix loss of last stream (T5281) * ecore-drm2: Remove unused field in Output structure * evas_events: look for seats on hash instead of input devices (T5146) * elm_code: fix CID 1368489 * Gengrid: Bring the item into view scope before swapping. * gengrid: fix the crash in _elm_gengrid_item_edge_check * elm_code: Fix newline crash on BSD -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Recommended applications...
On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:16:44 +0100 Peter Flynn said: > On 31 March 2017 06:02:11 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > wrote: > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:12:56 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > >> For example : how to mount automatically a USB memory ? What app does > >> that ? > > > > e already does this but it mounts WHEN you open up the device in the > > filemanager. > > The real problems are: > > 1. Getting the system to recognise that.a USB stick has been plugged in. On > all the systems I have installed e on, this does not happen, although if I > log out and then log in with xfce, it then recognises when a USB stick is > inserted. Something in e defeats this, but I'm not skilled enough in > interrupt detection to know what or where to look. works on all my systems. out of the box. :( > 2. Notifying the user. Even when the system recognises the insertion > (evidence: tail -f syslog), I have never seen e pop up anything to say a > USB stick has been inserted. I'm not sure where it would do notification, > especially when the dock at the bottom is slid down. Is it supposed to > raise it? e puts icons on my desktop automatically when this happens that you can click. also they appear in the left pane of efm for "favorite locations" > 3. Not all file managers are created equal. I can't use e's file manager > because black on dark grey is largely unreadable, and I haven't found any how is it black on dark grey? it's white on dark grey for labels and icons generally are also bright though folders are middle grey. definitely not in the default theme for sure. e's screenshot db is full of screenshots like: https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-58d51310cc8950.43643891.png certainly not black on dark grey at all. > way to make it show the file system hierarchy in a left-hand panel like > other FMs do. Thunar is excellent (despite apparently having some bug yeah. no "filesyytem tree". i never wrote one and didn't want one. it's a windows-ism. my entire desire for the filemanager was to be rather old school like the original amiga workbench and mac filemanagers. that's what i like. > people complain about) and it recognises and mounts inserted media every > time. Dolphin was wonderful until someone took away all its icons: it's now > useless. Gnome's is OK but limited. efm works with removable devices on every system i have. it used to work on ubuntu when i used that and works on all my arch boxes. i've seen the removable device stuff work on debian unstable too. > > it's dangerous to always auto-mount just because you plug some > > removable device in. it means they will forever be "dirty" when you unplug > > them again even if you never used them. > > That would always apply if you fail to unmount the device, regardless of > whether it was auto-mounted or manually-mounted. But auto-mount is evil yes - so just plugging something in means you always have to manually eject/unmount it even if you never touched it or used it. that's bad. very bad. mounting should be an explicit access and for e's file manager it's double-clikcing the icon and opening up a fm view of it and it'll mount automatically. it'll unmount when the last fm view is closed. > because the system cannot know what application I may want to use on each > occasion. > > Peter > > > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Recommended applications...
On Friday 31 Mar 2017 10:16:44 Peter Flynn wrote: > On 31 March 2017 06:02:11 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:12:56 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > >> For example : how to mount automatically a USB memory ? What app does > >> that ? > > > > e already does this but it mounts WHEN you open up the device in the > > filemanager. > > The real problems are: > > 1. Getting the system to recognise that.a USB stick has been plugged in. On > all the systems I have installed e on, this does not happen, although if I > log out and then log in with xfce, it then recognises when a USB stick is > inserted. Something in e defeats this, but I'm not skilled enough in > interrupt detection to know what or where to look. There should be an icon of a USB stick showing up on your desktop. If you click it the USB stick ought to be mounted and e's file manager window will open to show the file system of the mounted USB stick. When you close the eFM window it will also unmount the USB stick. The settings to achieve this (which I believe are the default settings) are as follows: Settings > Settings Panel > Files > File Manager > Device and select 'Show device icons on desktop'. You will need to have installed udisks2. > 2. Notifying the user. Even when the system recognises the insertion > (evidence: tail -f syslog), I have never seen e pop up anything to say a > USB stick has been inserted. I'm not sure where it would do notification, > especially when the dock at the bottom is slid down. Is it supposed to > raise it? I have no notifications here, other than a USB stick icon showing up on the desktop when a USB device is plugged in. > 3. Not all file managers are created equal. I can't use e's file manager > because black on dark grey is largely unreadable, and I haven't found any > way to make it show the file system hierarchy in a left-hand panel like > other FMs do. The default theme shows white characters on grey background. It is very readable. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Recommended applications...
On 31 March 2017 06:02:11 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:12:56 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: >> For example : how to mount automatically a USB memory ? What app does >> that ? > > e already does this but it mounts WHEN you open up the device in the > filemanager. The real problems are: 1. Getting the system to recognise that.a USB stick has been plugged in. On all the systems I have installed e on, this does not happen, although if I log out and then log in with xfce, it then recognises when a USB stick is inserted. Something in e defeats this, but I'm not skilled enough in interrupt detection to know what or where to look. 2. Notifying the user. Even when the system recognises the insertion (evidence: tail -f syslog), I have never seen e pop up anything to say a USB stick has been inserted. I'm not sure where it would do notification, especially when the dock at the bottom is slid down. Is it supposed to raise it? 3. Not all file managers are created equal. I can't use e's file manager because black on dark grey is largely unreadable, and I haven't found any way to make it show the file system hierarchy in a left-hand panel like other FMs do. Thunar is excellent (despite apparently having some bug people complain about) and it recognises and mounts inserted media every time. Dolphin was wonderful until someone took away all its icons: it's now useless. Gnome's is OK but limited. > it's dangerous to always auto-mount just because you plug some > removable device in. it means they will forever be "dirty" when you unplug > them > again even if you never used them. That would always apply if you fail to unmount the device, regardless of whether it was auto-mounted or manually-mounted. But auto-mount is evil because the system cannot know what application I may want to use on each occasion. Peter -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Recommended applications...
On 03/31/2017 07:01 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:12:56 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > >> Is there a list of recommended applications with e or "for" e ? >> >> To help life. >> >> For example : how to mount automatically a USB memory ? What app does >> that ? > e already does this but it mounts WHEN you open up the device in the > filemanager. it's dangerous to always auto-mount just because you plug some > removable device in. it means they will forever be "dirty" when you unplug > them > again even if you never used them. OK, got it. > >> Is there a browser recommended ? or a mail client ? > nope. > >> What are the best practices ? > well use whatever apps you like really... there are some apps that use efl. > look at www.enlightenment.org - there are ones listed that people bother to > make nice about pages for. there's also apps you can see listed on > git.enlightenment.org too... :) Thank you And thank you all ! -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
