Re: [e-users] E0.16.6 icon question.

2003-12-20 Thread Hall Stevenson
Bradley Reed wrote:

Hello all, 

Some programs when they are iconified show up in the Iconbox with a
screen snapshot (such as Mozillla). Some show up with an icon (such as
Sylpheed). Others iconify but are completely invisible and I need to use
eesh to un-iconify them. (I notice this with Nethack v3.4.3)
Is it possible to make enlightenment use an icon for nethack? or take a
screenshot even? What files would I need to edit?
What apps in particular do this ?? Out of the box, E's default is to use 
either a screenshot of the app window or an icon that ships with E. 
I've never seen it display NO icon. Do you, by chance, have a 2nd 
iconbox possibly under a window that the app is going to ?? When you 
iconify a window, they seem to go to the closest iconbox.

You could also just try to manually specify the icon to use for these 
(bad ?) apps. In the E install directory, likely 
/usr/local/enlightenment (if compiled from source) or 
/usr/share/enlightenment (if a package install), look for 
'icondefs.cfg'. It's fairly easy to understand. To determine the value 
to use for the windowmatch, right-click the app, select Remember... 
and note the name and title that's listed. Use one of those, though 
I'm not sure which is the right one. Save the file, iconify a window, 
and see if it works. You don't have to restart E for the change to take 
effect.

Hall



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Re: [e-users] Epplet Nightmares

2003-11-25 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 07:50 AM 11/25/2003, A. S. Budden wrote:
Thus spake Hall Stevenson:
 At 04:09 AM 11/24/2003, A. S. Budden wrote:
 The second, and more fundamental one is that when I start enlightenment,
 it's quite random what epplets I see.  For example, when I logged on
 this morning, my desktop looked like this:
 snip
 rpm -q Epplets:
 Epplets-0.5-11mdk

 I would first suggest removing the epplet package you've currently got
 installed and install the RPM that's available from E's website. epplets
 have a configuration option that helps deal with multiplying epplets,
 i.e. extra instances. It's possible that Mandrake didn't enable this 
option
 when they built it.

 Then again, I can't say that the E-supplied epplet RPMs were built with
 that option either


I recompiled it from the source (with a fair amount of editing the
configure script to stop GL from getting upset).  Seems to have solved
the problem.  Many thanks for your help.
In case anyone else wants to know, the option in question is
--disable-auto-respawn.  This stops the epplets from reloading
automatically, so you put them in your .xsession/.xinitrc and robert's
your father's brother.
Ahhh, it seems you left out a key thing from your original post, that is, 
assuming you're running E as your window manager. If so, you do NOT launch 
epplets from your .xsession or .xinitrc file. epplets will automatically be 
set up to re-start with E each time WITHOUT YOU HAVING TO DO ANYTHING.

The reason for this --disable-auto-respawn, or one of the reasons, was 
because Gnome users were having both Gnome *and* E remember what apps were 
to be re-started, hence people getting multiple instances of apps. Why ?? 
Because Gnome restarts them and E restarts them.

Let us know how soon your problem comes back. :-)

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Re: [e-users] Epplet Nightmares

2003-11-24 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 04:09 AM 11/24/2003, A. S. Budden wrote:
The second, and more fundamental one is that when I start enlightenment,
it's quite random what epplets I see.  For example, when I logged on
this morning, my desktop looked like this:
snip
rpm -q Epplets:
Epplets-0.5-11mdk
I would first suggest removing the epplet package you've currently got 
installed and install the RPM that's available from E's website. epplets 
have a configuration option that helps deal with multiplying epplets, 
i.e. extra instances. It's possible that Mandrake didn't enable this option 
when they built it.

Then again, I can't say that the E-supplied epplet RPMs were built with 
that option either

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Re: [e-users] Why do programs like lokkit and aumix look like bad Eterm?

2003-11-19 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 01:10 AM 11/19/2003, Paul E. Johnson wrote:
I have the problem that some console programs don't work right in 
Eterm.  They are ok in xterm.
snip
But it looks completely normal in Eterm on another computer with the same 
OS, but presumably I missed a package somewhere.
Check the $TERM variable on each machine. I believe that Eterm sets it to 
TERM=eterm in one of it's config files, but your other machine may be 
overriding Eterm's setting.

To check it, type echo $TERM at a prompt (in an Eterm).

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Re: [e-users] Why do programs like lokkit and aumix look like bad Eterm?

2003-11-19 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 08:49 PM 11/19/2003, Alan Schmitt wrote:
* Michael Jennings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Wednesday, 19 November 2003, at 08:33:53 (-0500),
 Hall Stevenson wrote:

  Check the $TERM variable on each machine. I believe that Eterm sets
  it to TERM=eterm in one of it's config files, but your other machine
  may be overriding Eterm's setting.
 
  To check it, type echo $TERM at a prompt (in an Eterm).

 Argh

 This is not the first time this question has come up...and it's not
 the first time someone has started talking about $TERM.

 It's NOT $TERM.  It's $LANG.  Or more specifically, the fact that
 /etc/sysconfig/i18n on RedHat sets the default locale to UTF-8.
I do apologize for that. It's the 2nd time I've said it, in fact. :-) I 
recall the responses correcting me that it's a $LANG issue, not a $TERM 
one, but since it didn't affect me and it was months ago (it seems), I've 
forgotten.

Maybe you should put as a FAQ on the Eterm website that Eterm does not
support UTF-8. I've also been bitten by that when trying to get it
working.
That's certainly a good idea !

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Re: [e-users] Evidence and RH9

2003-11-17 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 10:25 PM 11/16/2003, Didier Casse wrote:
On 16/11/03, at  09:18 -0500, Hall Stevenson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...:

 On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 04:28, Didier Casse wrote:
  On 15/11/03, at  09:54 -0500, Hall Stevenson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...:
 
   

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00723.html
  
   I tried it last night myself and didn't get that far... :( 'make' was
   failing in regards to Evas.h. I did install 'evas v1.0.0' from E's
   website. I did './configure --enable-canvas-gnomecanvas
   --disable-canvas-evas2' and the build summary looked good. No errors or
   complaints.
 
  Use the rpms. I remember that the building process wasn't so successful
  too. But when I use the rpm with a --nodeps option, it went in~

 On Gentoo ?? No thanks... I might download 'em and try rpm2tgz though.

Hall, why don't you ask Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]? He's
frequently on the e-devel mailing list and he's a gentoo guy, plus he's
helpful. He would know better how to install Evidence on Gentoo.
Gentoo actually has .ebuild packages available, but they're [Masked]. 
There's different reasons for a package being masked on Gentoo and one is 
that it's considered unstable (similar to Debian's unstable branch). I 
know of one way to get 'evidence' and that would be switching to the 
'unstable' branch of Gentoo. Along with that though comes dozens of newer 
packages, which I'm hesitant to use just for one program (Evidence).

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Re: [e-users] Evidence and RH9

2003-11-17 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:44 PM 11/16/2003, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
Didier Casse wrote:
Use the rpms. I remember that the building process wasn't so successful
too. But when I use the rpm with a --nodeps option, it went in~
On Gentoo ?? No thanks... I might download 'em and try rpm2tgz though.
Hall, why don't you ask Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]? He's
frequently on the e-devel mailing list and he's a gentoo guy, plus he's
helpful. He would know better how to install Evidence on Gentoo.
I compiled latest cvs checkouts of entrance and evidence from source on 
Gentoo yesterday.  It went fine.  Make sure you compile the dependencies 
in the right order as on E homepage and with optional configure parameters...
Which dependencies did you also install ?? I know that evidence can use 
LOTS of add'l packages, but doesn't require them. I tried to go with the 
bare minimum of what it requires and couldn't get it to compile. Looking 
again, the sourceforge download page does list evas2 under the required 
section. I tried to leave support for it out though with the configure flag 
'--disable-canvas-evas2', as mentioned already.

This page, http://evidence.sourceforge.net/building.html, says When going 
for eyecandy, you'll need evas, imlib2, and freetype2. Is that inaccurate 
?? I configured it initially WITHOUT evas2 flags as that says you do NOT 
need evas2. When it compiled, I tried to quiet it with the flag. :-)

I'm willing to build evas2 and try again. I just don't want to have to 
build ecore, edb, eet, and so on (the optional libraries).

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Re: [e-users] Evidence and RH9

2003-11-17 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 08:33 AM 11/17/2003, Andrew Elcock wrote:
Do a -pv (pretend with flags) on evidence.

Then emerge (manually) each dependancy *apart* from those in e/evidence.
then install the e/evidence libs etc from cvs in the usual ./autogen.sh  
make  make install way.
I understand that part. I always check with the '--pretend' flag first too 
! :-)

Thing is with the gentoo package, whoever packaged it decided that it 
needs edb, eet, evas2 and so on (just making up possible dependencies). 
For the time being, I'll settle to do without those.

Hall


Andrew

Hall Stevenson wrote:
At 10:25 PM 11/16/2003, Didier Casse wrote:

On 16/11/03, at  09:18 -0500, Hall Stevenson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...:

 On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 04:28, Didier Casse wrote:
  On 15/11/03, at  09:54 -0500, Hall Stevenson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...:
 
   

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00723.html 

  
   I tried it last night myself and didn't get that far... :( 'make' was
   failing in regards to Evas.h. I did install 'evas v1.0.0' from E's
   website. I did './configure --enable-canvas-gnomecanvas
   --disable-canvas-evas2' and the build summary looked good. No 
errors or
   complaints.
 
  Use the rpms. I remember that the building process wasn't so successful
  too. But when I use the rpm with a --nodeps option, it went in~

 On Gentoo ?? No thanks... I might download 'em and try rpm2tgz though.

Hall, why don't you ask Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]? He's
frequently on the e-devel mailing list and he's a gentoo guy, plus he's
helpful. He would know better how to install Evidence on Gentoo.
Gentoo actually has .ebuild packages available, but they're [Masked]. 
There's different reasons for a package being masked on Gentoo and one is 
that it's considered unstable (similar to Debian's unstable branch). I 
know of one way to get 'evidence' and that would be switching to the 
'unstable' branch of Gentoo. Along with that though comes dozens of newer 
packages, which I'm hesitant to use just for one program (Evidence).
Hall

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Re: [e-users] Evidence and RH9

2003-11-16 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 04:28, Didier Casse wrote:
 On 15/11/03, at  09:54 -0500, Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]...:
 
   
   http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00723.html
  
  I tried it last night myself and didn't get that far... :( 'make' was
  failing in regards to Evas.h. I did install 'evas v1.0.0' from E's
  website. I did './configure --enable-canvas-gnomecanvas
  --disable-canvas-evas2' and the build summary looked good. No errors or
  complaints.
 
 Use the rpms. I remember that the building process wasn't so successful
 too. But when I use the rpm with a --nodeps option, it went in~

On Gentoo ?? No thanks... I might download 'em and try rpm2tgz though.
What dependencies does the RPM have though ?? evidence can use lots of
new packages which I don't have and am hesitant to install. At least
with compiling from source, I can tweak it to NOT use things I don't
have and what not.

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Re: [e-users] Desktop Icons on E

2003-11-15 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 10:19, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
 Hello
 
 Recently, a link was posted to a tutorial on getting desktop icons.
 
 http://monkiboi.net/etherdox/index.php?id=How+to+add+icons+to+your+E+desktop2
 
 I read through it and followed it and did eventually get it to work and was 
 very pleased with the after effects.  Three cheers to the author.
 
 However!  This method relies on hardcoding into the current theme and 
 changing theme means losing it all.  So I have some questions.
 
 1 - What other low bloat methods are there to get desktop icons?
 2 - Where can I get decent icons to put on the desktop and to apply to evidence?
 
 I saw some icons on the following screenshot that I really liked.  They are 
 small, sleek and appropriate for what they are.  Is there anything similar 
 available on the web?
 
 http://tokyo.cored.org/gallery/preview/Axios-DR16.png

How about these ?? http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/icons/DEV.xml

More icons are here: http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/icons.xml

I actually don't think any of them are really original, but themed to
an extent to give them all a similar look.

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[e-users] efm still usable ??

2003-11-14 Thread Hall Stevenson
While looking at the themes at http://tokyo.cored.org/gallery.php, I see 
this person is running what I believe is the old efm. Is anyone else 
still using it ? I used it years ago when it was created as a prelude to 
e17's everything-built-in stuff and it worked perfectly well.

I'm not asking for help setting it up as I know the rules on that. :-) But, 
does anyone have it available to download ?? I'm pretty sure it's not 
available from any E pages anymore.

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Re: [e-users] efm still usable ??

2003-11-14 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 10:17 AM 11/14/2003, Victor V. Evtushenko wrote:
* Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031114 10:52]:

 While looking at the themes at http://tokyo.cored.org/gallery.php, I
 see this person is running what I believe is the old efm. Is anyone
I'm afraid you're mistaken. I see evidence filemanager on screenshots,

 I'm not asking for help setting it up as I know the rules on that. :-)
 But, does anyone have it available to download ?? I'm pretty sure it's
 not available from any E pages anymore.
I may have efm sources somewhere on my CDs, but try to search here:
http://e1x.codewordt.co.uk/ - I'm positive I have found a link to efm
sources there a year ago.
I found them by searching with Google. An Andrew, whose name I'm familiar 
with from this list, is hosting them. Says he pulled them from CVS just 
before E moved everything to sourceforge, during which time efm was dropped.

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Re: [e-users] efm still usable ??

2003-11-14 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 09:53 AM 11/14/2003, JC Wong wrote:
Hall Stevenson wrote on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:35:51AM -0500

 While looking at the themes at http://tokyo.cored.org/gallery.php, I see
 this person is running what I believe is the old efm. Is anyone else
 still using it ? I used it years ago when it was created as a prelude to
 e17's everything-built-in stuff and it worked perfectly well.
Nah! that's not EFM.I think is Evidence @
http://evidence.sourceforge.net
Ahhh yes, I'd forgotten about 'evidence'. I'll take a look at that tonight.

Thanks !
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Re: [e-users] Loading of special fonts for new 16.6 themes?

2003-11-13 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:54 PM 11/12/2003, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
The only question remaining is are there any other decent fonts for Eterm? 
This one is either too big or too small.  What fonts do you use and where 
can I find them?
Look for artsie or smooth. Attached is a shot of an Eterm with I think 
one or the other of those Sorry, it's rather old shot and I can't 
recall which it is now.

If you can't find either of those, I can upload them to my ftp space that 
my ISP provides.

Regards
Hall
attachment: term-font.jpg

Re: [e-users] Loading of special fonts for new 16.6 themes?

2003-11-13 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 20:51, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
 Onur Kucuk wrote:
  On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:20:19 +
  Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  DB In case, anyone wants a tarball of all the fonts or a tarball of all
  DB themes on tokyo.cored.org in non etheme format just let me know.
  
  
   I would like to have the fonts and those themes :)
  
  
 
 Sure.
 
 $ ls .enlightenment/themes
 axios-dr16  cored-desaturated  cored-dr16  detroit  ecdysisV2
 
 http://dhruba.codewordt.co.uk/files/themes.tar.gz (all 5 tokyo themes)
 
 # ls /usr/share/fonts/myfonts/
 artsie.pcf.gz  glisp.pcf.gz outcast.no.pcf.gz  suxus-iso-8859-15.bdf.gz
 bright.pcf.gz  lime.pcf.gz  outcast.pcf.gz tixus.bdf.gz

I see you found artsie and bright. So, how do you like them ??

 http://dhruba.codewordt.co.uk/files/myfonts.tar.gz (27 Eterm fonts)

Just downloaded it. Hope there's some new ones in there I like.

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Re: [e-users] problem with pager's

2003-11-12 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:02 AM 11/12/2003, Ondra 'blami' Balaz wrote:
 first ... sorry, my english is too bad (i dont learn it, i am czech
 enlightenment fan :), sorry :(
 i am new user of nice window manager - enlightenment. i switched from
 gnome (used on notebook, i need speedstart ...). enlightenment is best
 for me  looks very good and future. I using enlightenment precompiled
 for my Debian GNU/Linux from SID apt repository. My problem is ... i
 have two desktops and pager for each. I customize pagers (borderless
  bellow stacking state - i using pager only for orientation, i dont
 need it on top, but i need pagers displayed). All its ok, but if i
 shutdown E and run again, all pager's (without 0 - current desktop) have
 on top state. It is feature or bug ?
 my next problem is similar. I have borderless Eterm always on background
 (bellow state) (it's more effective than nautilus ...). All it's ok,
 only from time to time is this Eterm window above others. Any tips,
 reasons.
For both issues, *after* you set the stacking, as in top or below and 
so on, right-click the window's titlebar and choose Remember In 
there, check off Stacking state or whatever the exact wording is. Click 
OK and it should remember this next time it's ran.

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[e-users] Sound and sound events in Enlightenment

2003-11-11 Thread Hall Stevenson
How many people have sound events enabled in Enlightenment ?? If you do, 
but don't know how to turn them off, please say so. I'm looking for people 
who *want* sound events or have purposely enabled them.

There's a discussion going on in regards to reducing the size of E's 
download and this feature is one thing that's been brought up...

Regards
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Fwd: Re: [e-users] Sound and sound events in Enlightenment

2003-11-11 Thread Hall Stevenson

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On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 09:09, Hall Stevenson wrote:
How many people have sound events enabled in Enlightenment ?? If you do,
but don't know how to turn them off, please say so. I'm looking for people
who *want* sound events or have purposely enabled them.
There's a discussion going on in regards to reducing the size of E's
download and this feature is one thing that's been brought up...
Regards
Hall


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Re: [e-users] Epplets

2003-11-09 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 14:42, Justin Parker wrote:
 I am having an issue with Fancy Launcher.  It made successfully,and ran
 the help screen fine, although it will not stay running.  I run it from
 the epplet menu it just disappears after it starts running.  and it's
 not the transparency setting either.

Launch it from a terminal (like Eterm). You *might* see the error that
it spits out when it closes and that way, get a better idea of what's
going wrong.

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Re: [e-users] backgrounds e 16.5

2003-11-05 Thread Hall Stevenson
I think this is the same thread I mentioned a PERL script from
muhri.net. It allows you to change background images WITHOUT restarting
Enlightenment. I scanned through the perl script quickly and he uses
eesh to do most, if not all, of the work. You can likely borrow some
of his code to possibly do what you're after.

It's here: http://muhri.net/nav.php3?node=tips

Just checked the e.pl file and he's got no copyright info, BSD licensing
info, GPL, etc, etc. I don't know what issues there are in a case like
this. I'm sure he would allow copying though.

Hall


On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 21:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 todd,
 
 E 0.16.x makes use of the ~/.enlightenment/...e_session-XX file for
 its configuration info.
 
 There may be a fixed interval that this file is read, however I have not
 been able to decipher this.
 
 I wrote a random wallpaper script for E that uses parse operations on this
 file directly, the only method I found of getting E to check this file for
 new backgrounds is to restart with eesh.
 
  Sorry if this is a redundant question, but I did google around for a bit
  with no luck.
 
  Using E 0.16.5, does anybody know how to reload the images stored in my
  backgrounds directory without restarting E?  I'm not sure what the
  Pre-scan bgs button does on the desktop background configuration page
  does, but it doesn't seem to do what I am looking for.
 
  Just to clarify, I am creating new images in
  ~/.enlightenment/backgrounds/ and they won't show up in Desktop
  Background Settings until I restart E.
 
  thanks
 
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Where do I find . . .

2003-11-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 02:55, Justin Parker wrote:
 I am trying to do two things:
 1. stop epplets from multiplying every freakin time I start E

Who would have thought ?? http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/faq.html

 2. transfer the sounds from one theme to another

Hmmm, I've seen this asked before and I *think* it's just a matter of
copying files. I think I recall a theme that said If you want sound,
just copy the files from BrushedMetal-Tigert over Take a look at
BrushedMetal-Tigert's directory. There's a sound.cfg file in the
top-level as well as a 'sound' sub-directory with sound.cfg again and a
samples sub-dir. Copy those to your theme's directory and see what
happens.


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Re: [e-users] Transperancy

2003-10-27 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 22:50, Justin Parker wrote:
 I'm trying to find out if Eterm can be configured to be transparent.  I
 realize it can be transparent to the desktop but can it be transparent
 to other applications and windows?

In it's current state, no. As I recall, it's a limitation in X-Windows
maybe ?? People have asked about Enlightenment's root-window menus to
act similarly.

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[e-users] Iconbox won't stay put

2003-10-26 Thread Hall Stevenson
I've positioned my iconbox where I want it and then changed the anchor
alignment slider all the way to the right in Iconbox Settings. I also
have Automatically resize to fit icons and Hide scrollbar when not
needed ENABLED. It usually works fine... When I minimize an app, the
iconbox gets bigger by growing to the left as icons get added to the
right.

Problem is, the iconbox gets shifting to the right a little bit. No big
deal normally, but my pager is there and it goes over the top of it a
bit. I've NEVER had to use Remember... settings on my pagers or
iconboxes before. 

What I just noticed is that it doesn't move/shift until I de-iconify the
last icon/app. If I have say (4) apps iconified and start de-iconifying
them, it stays in place properly UNTIL I do the last one.

I can move the iconbox way to the left. As I iconfify and de-iconify
apps, each time it empties it moves a little more to the right.

Regards
Hall


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Re: [e-users] Epplets help!

2003-10-25 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Friday 24 October 2003 17:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your attempt to help out with the epplets.

 I tried looking for an rpm and found one built for earlier redhats
 but rh9 has freakin repositioned most of the libs so when I try to
 install the rpm for the earlier redhats it says can't find yada
 yada yada and so on and so forth.  I know the libs are there
 because they are the same libs required for E.  I can't recompile
 the rpms because I suck at that hell I don't even know how to do
 that. 

What happened to compiling from source ??

If you're going to try the RPMs, please post the EXACT error 
message(s) that it outputs. 

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Re: [e-users] Copy-n-paste *from* Eterm to KDE apps (again)

2003-10-25 Thread Hall Stevenson
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 01:25, Michael Jennings wrote:
 On Saturday, 25 October 2003, at 11:21:55 (+),
 Hall Stevenson wrote:
 
  Has anyone else seen this ?? When I posted about this previously, M
  Jennings, Eterm's author, commented that he didn't have this
  problem, but I think he said going from Konqueror *to* Eterm, not
  the other way around. That's not my problem as I can do the same
  okay. It's *from* Eterm to a few KDE apps.
 
 I have no problems pasting from Eterm into Konqueror.  In fact, when I
 select a URL in Eterm under KDE, a helpful little box pops up offering
 to launch the URL in Konqueror, Mozilla, or Netscape for me.

I was using KDE (no Enlightenment at all, but I'm back :) ) with Eterms
for my terminal windows and I couldn't paste *from* Eterm *to*
Konqueror. Now when I'm running E, and no KDE, other than apps
themselves, it makes no difference. I still can't do it... 

Others do have this problem though, but since you don't, I understand
it's difficult, no, impossible, for you to track down. 

What helpful little box is this that pops up anyway ?? I know there
was an epplet that watched for URLs. Do epplets work under KDE ??

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[e-users] Test (please ignore)

2003-10-24 Thread Hall Stevenson
Just testing how long it takes a message to arrive to this list. I 
sent one at 9am EST today and it hasn't shown up yet.



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Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems

2003-10-22 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:41 AM 10/22/2003, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote:
An excellent example of how not to piss of a developer. Hope you enjoy the
insults as much as I did. :) Suffice it to say that I won't bother to
answer his questions now, or ever.
To some extent, I have to agree with Hisham. Your reply was pretty 
lame Hallvar offered to *help* you and all you said was that it's ALPHA 
software, you're on your own, and so on. Why do you have it available then 
?? For people to use or for people to help you code it ?? Again, Hallvar 
offered to help you and you blew him off.

Regards
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Fwd: [Fwd: Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems]

2003-10-22 Thread Hall Stevenson
I was asked to forward this message by Hisham
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Hi dude,

Can you plz send this to the list? It bounced my email because I dont
have access to the account which I usually send from.

Thanks.

Hisham.

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 Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems
 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:03:04 +0300
 
 People, the last thing I want here is a flame war. Here's my reply to
 this entire situation:
 
 Ibukun Olumuyiwa:
 Dude, I never meant to flame you personally. I intended this to be a
 list message. I apologize for any inconvenienve my email could have
 caused.
 
 As for the intent of my email, well, it really wasnt aimed at anyone in
 particular. Its just we always say we dont support this... we dont
 support that. And you guys wonder why people wont use our software? If
 something has a lot of potential and its main developers dont want to
 improve it or let others help, then at the end of the day thats totally
 up to them. But dont you think everyone will lose a lot if this piece of
 code that had a lot of potential didnt want to be developed and
 pursued? We are all here because we love and support E. We need to work
 together.
 
 Anyhows, Ibukun, I apologize for the misunderstanding, but I always wish
 that us unix folk would actually help instead of giving the usual jerk
 response of go look it up yourself or go away, I dont wanna help
 you. I think this would add to my story http://www.bash.org/?152037
 
 Regards,
 
 Hisham.  
 
 
 On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:47, Hall Stevenson wrote:
  At 11:41 AM 10/22/2003, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote:
  An excellent example of how not to piss of a developer. Hope you enjoy the
  insults as much as I did. :) Suffice it to say that I won't bother to
  answer his questions now, or ever.
  
  To some extent, I have to agree with Hisham. Your reply was pretty 
  lame Hallvar offered to *help* you and all you said was that it's ALPHA 
  software, you're on your own, and so on. Why do you have it available then 
  ?? For people to use or for people to help you code it ?? Again, Hallvar 
  offered to help you and you blew him off.
  
  
  Regards
  Hall 
  
  
  
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Re: [e-users] how to change the icons in the ICONBOX

2003-09-22 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:05 AM 9/22/2003 +0800, Didier Casse wrote:
Sorry to bug you guys again. But right now, I'm doing a major revamp of my
enlightenment to make it look really hip!
After some struggle, I finally managed to change my fonts, modify my
favorite themes by hacking piece by piece, etc...
Now I would like to know how to change the icons in the iconbox. When you
minimize let's say Eterm you get a greenish computer monitor. I've my own
icons and I want to substitute it in place of the monitor. How do I do
that?
I also want to substitute my mozilla icon as I do not really like a
thumbnail of the browser in the iconbox. Thanks for the help.
Do a search on your system for icondefs.cfg. You can either edit the 
system-wide version or copy that file to your  ~/.enlightenment directory. 
Open it up in your preferred text editor... It's not terribly difficult to 
understand. Use E's window properties (right-click the app's border, select 
Remember..., and look at Name, Class, and so on. Those, as I recall, 
are used by the icondefs file to ID windows.

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Re: [e-users] Ripples Effect Questions

2003-09-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 10:21 PM 9/4/2003 +0200, Kim Woelders wrote:
Jesse Merriman wrote:
1. Is there a way to turn off the You have started the ripples 
effect... box that pops up every time I log in? I already know how to 
turn it off and such so now it has become an annoyance.
No.
Surely the source code can be modified to stop this. Of course, that's up 
to the end-user to do. I assume your No answer means you won't modify the 
existing release or any future release.

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Re: [e-users] Adding desktop icons

2003-03-12 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 11:39 PM 3/11/2003 -0600, john wrote:
I downloaded efm, but when I try to run it, I get this error:
efm: error while loading shared libraries: libImlib2.so.0: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory

I have this library, so I dont know what could be wrong... any other ideas?
Installed from an RPM/DEB/etc or from *.tar.gz ?? You may need to configure 
your /etc/ld.so.conf setup differently depending on what you've done.

You are aware that EFM is going nowhere, right ?? Don't bother reporting 
problems, for instance, 'cause nobody's doing anything about it. 
Personally, I wouldn't mess with it...

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Re: [e-users] installing using rpm package in RH8.0

2003-03-07 Thread Hall Stevenson


Wait, this is RPM that's complaining about the dependency ?? If so, it
*must* find a copy of Imlib, installed via RPM and in RPM's database, or
it will complain. Since you have Imlib installed by other means, and have
setup /etc/ld.so.conf already, use the force option with RPM.
Something like rpm --Ivh --nodeps fnlib*.rpm. Note: I haven't
used an rpm-based distro in a couple of years, so check that command
yourself.
Hall

At 11:53 AM 3/7/2003 -0800, Adam Rench wrote:
I did install Imlib using a tar.gz
package. I have always edited the ld.so.conf file then run the
ldconfig. If I delete the ld.so.conf file, then run ldconfig will
it re-create the ld.so.conf file? 
Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

At 09:01 AM 3/7/2003 -0800, Adam Rench wrote:

Hi all,

Brand new to enlightenment and also quite new to Linux. I've
heard a lot 
about enlightenment and am very eager to use it. I downloaded the
rpm 
from the downloads page, and also downloaded fnlib, imlib, and 
freetype. I've had no problems installing freetype and imlib, but
when I 
try to install fnlib, I get a dependency error saying that it
can't find 
libImlib.so.1 and I see it in my /usr/local/lib folder.
I did go into my /etc/ld.so.conf file and add /usr/local/lib to
it and ran 
/sbin/ldconfig but I'm still recieving the dependency error. Has
anyone 
had this problem too?

If you installed an RPM of imlib, it should *not* go into /usr/local,
but 
/usr/lib instead. Did you install a *.tar.gz version of Imlib at some
time ??

You may need to delete your ld.so.cache file before re-running
/sbin/ldconfig.


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Re: [e-users] seeking docs for themes in DR16...

2003-02-24 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 12:10 PM 2/24/2003 +0100, Martin 'Goran' Moravec wrote:
Hi,
in an urge to repair one broken down theme, I've tried to find some info
on syntax and semantics  of the conf files. I was tormenting google, 
trying to get
anything, but I have failed. My try to get any info from
www.enlightenment.org failed olso. Please can anyone give me any pointer to
the documentation (other than the source).


Rasterman's theme, Brushed Metal-Tigert (is that right ?) is considered the 
reference for designing (or repairing) themes. I've seen themes that more 
or less take that one and then replace items with their own.

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