Re: [e-users] Terminology 1.11.0

[Peter Koellner]

Thank you, but it is just the preflight check which should only report the
additional library missing when it would actually be required. It does not
break the build process itself, just confuses a bit when actually
checking the output before starting the ninja build, because such a NO normally
means the build will fail or some functionality will be missing from the result,
so the normal reaction to this is to go and install any missing packages, which 
in this case
just leads to a wild-goose chase, especially for less experienced users, which 
is why I found it
worth reporting, even if it is not such a big deal.

I am not really familiar with the meson/ninja tools, so I am a
bit clueless as to where and how to fix the test. It is just a petitesse,
something like a minor cosmetic issue. Manipulating the package-installed 
system libraries
to merely make the message go away may have other side effects for the build 
system later on, so I
would not recommend it.

Regards
  Peter


On Sat, 13 Nov 2021, Carla Sensa wrote:

You can try out the below command before (re)building Enlightenment and 
related applications.


sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/preloadable_libintl.so
/usr/lib/libintl.so


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Re: [e-users] Terminology 1.11.0

[Peter Koellner]

Hi,

I did a git pull on the sources just now. There is one thing I find a bit 
strange, that is when doing meson . build, it says

[...]
Project version: 1.11.0
C compiler for the host machine: cc (gcc 10.2.1 "cc (Debian 10.2.1-6) 10.2.1 
20210110")
C linker for the host machine: cc ld.bfd 2.35.2
Host machine cpu family: x86_64
Host machine cpu: x86_64
Library m found: YES
Found pkg-config: /usr/bin/pkg-config (0.29.2)
Found CMake: /usr/bin/cmake (3.18.4)
[>]Run-time dependency intl found: NO (tried pkgconfig and cmake)
[>]Library intl found: NO
[...]

There does not seem to be an "intl" library available for pkgconfig or cmake in 
devuan chimaera (debian 11.1 based).
/usr/include/libintl.h is part of the package libc6-dev, which is installed. I 
guess this is because of this:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gnulib/manual/html_node/libintl_002eh.html with 
the header missing on some platforms.

I guess this message can be ignored on all platforms that do have libintl.h  in 
libc6-dev, it seems to build fine.


Regards
  Peter



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Re: [e-users] Terminology 1.10 problem with emacs

[Peter Koellner]

Hi,


great, I cloned it from https://github.com/borisfaure/terminology.git. Version 
says 1.10.99.
Opening the file works correctly now, many thanks

Regards
  Peter


On Sat, 23 Oct 2021, Boris Faure wrote:


Hi!
 I hope to have fixed the issue in current git.  Would you be able to
test it?
Thanks



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[e-users] devuan chimaera installation form debian packages, IntelliJ IDEA

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

Today I tried the new enlightenment setup for my regular work environment for 
the first time since a couple of years ago when
some minor but annoying issues with IntelliJ IDEA that I could never really 
pinpoint forced me to switch to xfce.
Unfortunately, now it is differently worse, with the same application.

Each time IntelliJ now opens some popup dialog box, it hides the project window 
instead of opening the dialog box.
I then have to select the window from the IBar to see and handle the popup 
window - but the main project window forgets
which monitor it was running on and opens in the wrong one, so I then have to 
move it manually to the monitor where I would like to have it.
Now, this IDE is a Java application, and the Java GUI is not really the best, 
so I suspect the problem may lie with the IDEs
Java XWindows support libraries somewhere. The problem is just that the IDE is 
as good as unusable like this, so I will switch
back to XFCE tomorrow, since it is very easy to switch the window manager, but 
very difficult to transfer the work to a different IDE.
So unless I accidentally check the "make windows behave interestingly" checkbox 
in some configuration I guess enlightenment is off
the table for me until IntelliJ and / or Oracle get their act together and fix 
their GUI support...

Regrds
  Peter

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Re: [e-users] Terminology 1.10 problem with emacs

[Peter Koellner]

Hi, I have upgraded to devuan 4.0 chmimaera, which is based on debian 11. I 
have installed the enlightenment 0.24.2-8 packages, switched my desktop to it 
and also installed the terminology 1.9.0-2 packages. I have the same emacs 
problem with this configuration. the local temrinology 1.6.0 works fine.

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Re: [e-users] Terminology 1.10 problem with emacs

[Peter Koellner]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2021, Boris Faure wrote:


Are you just running `emacs file`? Are you using any plugin? Is there a
mode in emacs to run with an empty configuration and if so, do you
notice the same issue?


Yes, I am just running emacs filename.
emacs -q filename has the same effect in terminology 1.10, emacs -Q filename 
also. it is independent of the file, with terminology 1.6.0 the file can be 
opened.

I have  done a strace emacs -Q  and then a diff -y diff.1.6 diff.1.10 
they diverge with this:

read(7, "\n(defconst xterm-paste-ending-se"..., 4096) = 4096  | read(5, "\n(defconst 
xterm-paste-ending-se"..., 4096) = 4096
lseek(7, 6402, SEEK_SET)= 6402| lseek(5, 6402, 
SEEK_SET)= 6402
lseek(7, 6402, SEEK_SET)= 6402| lseek(5, 6402, 
SEEK_SET)= 6402
lseek(7, 6402, SEEK_SET)= 6402| lseek(5, 6402, 
SEEK_SET)= 6402
lseek(7, 6402, SEEK_SET)= 6402| lseek(5, 6402, 
SEEK_SET)= 6402
read(7, "\\201\\300\0\\201\\301\0#\\210\\303\1\\201"..., 4096 | read(5, 
"\\201\\300\0\\201\\301\0#\\210\\303\1\\201"..., 4096
read(7, " \"\33O5Q\" [C-f2] \"\33O5R\" [C-f3] \"\33O"..., 409 | read(5, " \"\33O5Q\" [C-f2] 
\"\33O5R\" [C-f3] \"\33O"..., 409
read(7, "58 [67108922]) (6 60 [67108924])"..., 4096) = 4096   | read(5, "58 
[67108922]) (6 60 [67108924])"..., 4096) = 4096
lseek(7, 18690, SEEK_SET)   = 18690   | lseek(5, 18690, 
SEEK_SET)   = 18690
lseek(7, 18690, SEEK_SET)   = 18690   | lseek(5, 18690, 
SEEK_SET)   = 18690
read(7, "d\" 1 (205 0 0)) (\"green\" 2 (0 20"..., 4096) = 409 | read(5, "d\" 1 (205 0 0)) 
(\"green\" 2 (0 20"..., 4096) = 409
lseek(7, 22786, SEEK_SET)   = 22786   | lseek(5, 22786, 
SEEK_SET)   = 22786
lseek(7, 22786, SEEK_SET)   = 22786   | lseek(5, 22786, 
SEEK_SET)   = 22786
lseek(7, 22786, SEEK_SET)   = 22786   | lseek(5, 22786, 
SEEK_SET)   = 22786
lseek(7, 22786, SEEK_SET)   = 22786   | lseek(5, 22786, 
SEEK_SET)   = 22786
lseek(7, 22786, SEEK_SET)   = 22786   | lseek(5, 22786, 
SEEK_SET)   = 22786
read(7, "-keys #[0 \"\\300\\301!\\210\\302\\303"..., 4096) =  | read(5, "-keys #[0 
\"\\300\\301!\\210\\302\\303"..., 4096) =
lseek(7, 26882, SEEK_SET)   = 26882   | lseek(5, 26882, 
SEEK_SET)   = 26882
lseek(7, 26882, SEEK_SET)   = 26882   | lseek(5, 26882, 
SEEK_SET)   = 26882
lseek(7, 26882, SEEK_SET)   = 26882   | lseek(5, 26882, 
SEEK_SET)   = 26882
lseek(7, 26882, SEEK_SET)   = 26882   | lseek(5, 26882, 
SEEK_SET)   = 26882
lseek(7, 26882, SEEK_SET)   = 26882   | lseek(5, 26882, 
SEEK_SET)   = 26882
lseek(7, 24576, SEEK_SET)   = 24576   | lseek(5, 24576, 
SEEK_SET)   = 24576
read(7, "er nil terminal-initted terminal"..., 4096) = 4096   | read(5, "er nil 
terminal-initted terminal"..., 4096) = 4096
lseek(7, 28672, SEEK_SET)   = 28672   | lseek(5, 28672, 
SEEK_SET)   = 28672
read(7, "-background-mode #[771 \"\\300\3\3\3#"..., 4096) = 2 | read(5, "-background-mode 
#[771 \"\\300\3\3\3#"..., 4096) = 2
read(7, "", 4096)   = 0   | read(5, "", 
4096)   = 0
close(7)= 0   | close(5)
= 0
ioctl(6, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0   | ioctl(4, 
TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0
ioctl(6, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0   | ioctl(4, 
TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0
ioctl(6, SNDCTL_TMR_STOP or TCSETSW, {B38400 opost isig -ican | ioctl(4, 
SNDCTL_TMR_STOP or TCSETSW, {B38400 opost isig -ican
ioctl(6, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0   | ioctl(4, 
TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0
ioctl(6, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0   | ioctl(4, 
TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0
write(6, "\33[>0c", 5)  = 5   | write(4, 
"\33[>0c", 5)  = 5
write(6, "\33[H\33[2J", 7)  = 7   | write(4, 
"\33[H\33[2J", 7)  = 7
--- SIGIO {si_signo=SIGIO, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---   --- SIGIO 
{si_signo=SIGIO, si_code=SI_KERNEL} ---
rt_sigreturn({mask=[]}) = 3 
rt_sigreturn({mask=[]}) = 3
ioctl(6, FIONREAD, [12])= 0   | ioctl(4, 
FIONREAD, [12])= 0
read(6, "\33[>61;337;0c", 12)   = 12  

[e-users] Terminology 1.10 problem with emacs

[Peter Koellner]

Hi,

I just downloaded and built terminology-1.10.0.tar.xz to replace my old 1.6.0 
installation. I am running it in a xfce environment
on a devuan beowulf. I had to abandon enlightenment as desktop environment in 
favour of xfce two years ago or so, since I had some
obscure difficulties with the IntelliJ IDEA IDE running under enlightenment 
then which I could only resolve by switching to XFCE,
but I kept terminology as the standard terminal, running with efl 1.24.

Now after the update I noticed that emacs does not open files anymore when 
given on the command line. I always land in the scratch window,
and there is no buffer opened for the file. strace looks like the parameters 
are added fine and I did not see anything suspicious, but
the file is not opened.
I then reverted to the 1.6.0 build, and there it works fine, so the behaviour 
is reproducibly connected to upgrading terminology to 1.10.0
(which shows as 1.9.99 in the About box).
There is no error message, just the bell is ringing for some reason, which I 
suppose means some error happened. I guess that means
some sort of terminal interaction that worked before has gone wrong. The emacs 
is a standard 26.1 emacs-nox 1:26.1+1-3.2+deb10u2 amd64

Any ideas how to proceed there?

Regards
  Peter

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Re: [e-users] systemd

[Peter Koellner]

Just a side note to add some outlying viewpoint:  I changed from debian to 
devuan a year ago specifically to get rid of systemd.
The reason for this was more of a philosophical than technical nature. I also 
tried some bsd flavours a short time ago which had some driver related problems 
of their own on the laptop, and of course systemd does not exist there either 
because it is not a unix standard but linux-specific. So in my opinion it is 
perfectly fine to offer systemd support as an option, but making it a 
prerequisite would narrow users choices.
I have not been able to build a current version of enlightenment for a long 
time now for other dependency problems and the available packages are outdated 
and not really suited for production use for my work environment, so for now I 
have switched to devuan with xfce, keeping terminology as my standard terminal. 
I am leasurely monitoring the situation and do make a few tests from time to 
time to see where to go next.

regards
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Re: [e-users] Beta API tutorial GUI demo, untidiness

[Peter Koellner]

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018, Carsten Haitzler wrote:


Ok, so it is more of alpha there. Never mind.


notice that a lot of this api is already working behind the scenes behind the
"legacy" (current) api. we're doing this  right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIpBpGQ0XTI

have been for a few years... :)


Yes, reading my emails again, they may be taken as very critical, but I should 
probably write nore often
that I am really impressed with the works and would like to thank all involved 
for their efforts.


Did I mention that I also have the latest nvidia drivers installed?
this machine has a nvidia geforce gtx 1060 with nvidia 390.77 drivers.
This effect does not happen with xfce now.


in enlightenment go to advanced compositor settings under rendering and choose
"invalidate" instead of auto. it'll force full redraws instead of partial
updates that require buffer age to work.


Ok, I'll report back when I have set it ll up cleanly again.

In a couple of weeks when I have more time I will restart building the
enlightenment environment from scratch, and see if it goes better with a
clean build with no locally installed libraries interfering. I hope it will
solve some of the wierd effects... I will keep in mind looking for the focus
setting with intellij then.


that tends to be a source of bizarre issues sometimes - multiple versions of
efl, or other dependencies. unclean systems can cause weird side-effects that
frankly will baffle us devs. :)


Indeed. The first regular step in fixing something even before switching off 
and switching on again
should be cleaning up the libraries ;-)

Regards
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Re: [e-users] Beta API tutorial GUI demo, untidiness

[Peter Koellner]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018, Carsten Haitzler wrote:


tutorial for a beta API that is absolutely not stable yet and is explicitly
marked as such. it is changing and not ready for general use. It's available as
a kind of preview as well as for developers to give feedback on the API and
design and so on. Things like you see are just part of development and happen
because it's not a stable "supported" API set at this point.


Ok, so it is more of alpha there. Never mind.


That's bizarre. how a left and right mouse click would get mixed up. I can't
imagine how that might happen inside EFL - it just passes the button # in
events up the chain from X. that integer would have to magically change at
random for that to happen...


Yes, it is bizarre, and it has nothing to with enlightenment or efl. Last week 
the desktop got so instable I could no longer use it as my work environment, so 
I decided to clean out my /usr/locale, including efl libraries, and install 
xfce for now. The same symptoms with the mouse buttons show up there, so I 
guess this is some kernel driver or hardware problem.


That's buffer age related there. either driver is mis-reporting buffer age or
we're totally losing update regions in the buffer "ring" history. I am unsure
about the latter being possible, so the only other option might be rectangle
math is wrong and just sometimes loses rects when merging multiple frames of
update rects... but that also seems unlikely otherwise we'd get odd results for
just any update, buffer age or not and lose rects etc. so it leads me to mostly
suspect buffer age, but it's hard to prove for sure. literally would have to
store every buffer entirely and then before every render compare it against all
buffers in the history list to see which one the content matches up with vs the
age reported. it's expensive stuff.


Did I mention that I also have the latest nvidia drivers installed?
this machine has a nvidia geforce gtx 1060 with nvidia 390.77 drivers.
This effect does not happen with xfce now.


there are a few possible options here, but the main would be using the netwm
activate request where intellij is asking for an activation and e obliges (that
means switching to that desktop, raising that window and focusing it). another
option is thatr inellij is just setting focus directly. it could also be a new
window being opened up and if e's policy is "focus all new windows" then this
might happen - the default is to focus new windows only if a parent of that
dialog is focused. it's probably the first though. in the end intellij is
probably asking this to happen. can you find a setting to turn this off?

in the end we could try workarounds like in remembers/locks allow windows to be
on a blacklist to never "activate" if asked by a client or only do it in
certain cases (that desktop is active, that screen has mouse on it, etc.) which
is a workaround a bad app - we'd have to add features for that, but can be done.


In a couple of weeks when I have more time I will restart building the 
enlightenment
environment from scratch, and see if it goes better with a clean build with no 
locally
installed libraries interfering. I hope it will solve some of the wierd 
effects...
I will keep in mind looking for the focus setting with intellij then.

Regards

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Re: [e-users] Beta API tutorial GUI demo, untidiness

[Peter Koellner]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2018, Carsten Haitzler wrote:


No - it's fine in this regard (the tutorial). It's something inside EFL that is
hitting an invalid object. Unfortunately the "hex dumps" are useless to
mail you really need to use eina_btlog as described to turn it into usable
text. EFL does not go do this by default because it's rather costly to do, so
doing it every time we dump this to stderr is not a good idea. We leave it to
you to do when you want to know what that backtrace says or share it with
others, but I can reproduce it.


Well, basically I would expect a tutorial example to work without errors... I 
did try eina_btlog now,
but I really have no idea what it is telling me there, except that efl did hit 
some invalid or destroyed
object in closing the program, so it probably attemtps to destroy something 
twice. I do have some other
problems with enlightemnent, but I have to find the time to produce a useful 
bugreport. Until now, the
symptoms are a bit vague as to the source. For example, occasionally mouse 
clicks just stop working, or
I have to use the laptop trackpads right mouse button to perform a left mouse 
click to make the usb mouse
work temporarily again, sometimes only the systme tray keeps working, but no 
window manager actions until I restart
enlightenment. Since a couple of weeks there seem to be some problem with 
double buffering, I get flickering artefacts
redisplaying invalidated rectangles with the old content again. Also, there are 
a few problems with automated focus. When
IntelliJ Idea pops up some dialog, it sometimes triggers the mouse problem, and 
each and every time some Terminology or firefox window
is brought to the front instead of that dialog box now. Also, when idea emits 
some notification during the longish build process, it often
steals the input focus away from the program I am just typing in, so my input 
ends up in the middle of the current source file opend in
idea, even if I am typing on the other screen.
I am not sure if this all affects gtk-based programs more, but I have the not 
really well founded suspicion that the problems often
start after opening a gtk-based application.
So the idea behind starting with the tutorial was to start testing if efl-based 
programs show the same effects.
There may also be some suboptimal configuration of the efl build, so I also 
have to go through all the dependencies
again first before collecting the details. I am using the current 
efl/enlightenment/terminology versions on a current devuan system, by the way.

regards
  Peter


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[e-users] efl 1.20.2 fails on debian 9.1

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I am trying to update my enlightemment isntallation on a debian 9.1 system, but 
get the following comile errors with 1.20.2 sources:

  CC   
modules/ecore_imf/ibus/modules_ecore_imf_ibus_module_la-ibus_module.lo
  In file included from /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibus.h:31:0,
   from modules/ecore_imf/ibus/ibus_module.c:10:
   /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:141:58: error: unknown type name 
‘GVariantBuilder’
 GVariantBuilder
*builder);
   ^~~
   /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:156:58: error: unknown type 
name ‘GVariant’
 GVariant   
*variant);
   ^~~~
   /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:177:34: error: unknown type name 
‘GVariantBuilder’
 GVariantBuilder*builder);
   ^~~
   /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:179:34: error: unknown type 
name ‘GVariant’
 GVariant   *variant);
   ^~~~
   /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:211:58: error: unknown type name 
‘GVariant’
 GVariant   
*value);
   ^~~~
   /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:224:1: error: unknown type name 
‘GVariant’
GVariant*ibus_serializable_get_qattachment  
(IBusSerializable   *serializable,
 ^~~~
 /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:264:1: error: unknown type name 
‘GVariant’
  GVariant*ibus_serializable_serialize(IBusSerializable   
*serializable);
   ^~~~
   /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusserializable.h:277:58: error: unknown type name 
‘GVariant’
IBusSerializable*ibus_serializable_deserialize  (GVariant   
*variant);
  ^~~~

[...]

In file included from /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibus.h:44:0,
 from modules/ecore_imf/ibus/ibus_module.c:10:
 /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusbus.h:127:1: error: unknown type name 
‘GDBusConnection’
  GDBusConnection *
   ^~~
   In file included from /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibus.h:29:0,
from modules/ecore_imf/ibus/ibus_module.c:10:
/usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusshare.h:44:25: error: unknown type name 
‘G_DEPRECATED’
 #define IBUS_DEPRECATED G_DEPRECATED
  ^
  /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusbus.h:726:1: note: in expansion of macro 
‘IBUS_DEPRECATED’
   IBUS_DEPRECATED
^~~


Now I am not sure what to make of this, the error seems to come from the 
include file.
This one belongs to:

dpkg -S /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusshare.h
libibus-1.0-dev:amd64: /usr/include/ibus-1.0/ibusshare.h

dpkg -l libibus-1.0-dev
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version   Architecture  Description
+++-=-=-=-
ii  libibus-1.0-dev:amd64 1.5.14-3  amd64 Intelligent 
Input Bus - development file

aptitude tells me
i   libsdl2-dev Depends libibus-1.0-dev
i   libsdl2-ttf-dev Depends libsdl2-dev (>= 2.0.0)

Manually installed, current version 2.0.14+dfsg1-1, priority optional
No dependencies require to install libsdl2-ttf-dev

so I guess it is a prerequisite of some other program I have build manually. I 
am not
sure if this is some sort of conflict with some different dependency of efl?


I have been using the following configuration for quite some time now:

#!/bin/bash
./configure --enable-xinput22  --enable-multisense --enable-image-loader-webp 
--enable-harfbuzz --enable-scim --enable-fb --disable-tslib --disable-static 
--enable-xine


export CFLAGS="-O3 -ffast-math -march=native"



Any idea how to make this work again?

Regards
  Peter


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Re: [e-users] Terminology, ncurses

[Peter Koellner]

Thanks, that worked, even without restarting.

Cheers
  Peter


On Mon, 17 Jul 2017, Boris Faure wrote:


Under the Settings menu, in the Behavior section, there is "BackArrow
sends Del (instead of BackSpace)". Could you change the status of the
checkbox and restart Terminology?



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Re: [e-users] EFL 1.20.0 alpha 1, download page not accessible

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

What is happening with the enlightenment.org web site? It seems to have some 
serious problems since last week or the week before.
It shows a message "having trouble waking up" and a hint to look at #e at 
irc.freenode.org, but there I only see #e.fr and #e.de
channels (sorry, never got too deep into irc, no idea what I am supposed to do 
there)

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Stefan Schmidt wrote:


**Download**


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[e-users] new laptop setup -> screen flickers three times

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I am installing a fresh new laptop with a NVIDIA GTX1060 graphics card, using 
debian 9.

I have freshly compiled and installed efl 1.19.0 and enlightenment 0.21.7 
yesterday, so far so good.
Now I have connected two external monitors to that, one via display port to the 
left, another via HDMI to the right, and that works too.
The laptop screen showed some color steps in the background gradient, which 
vanished after setiing the Dithering Controls in the NVIDIA X Server Settings 
application to Enabled - Temporal - Auto.
At that point somewhere I opened the enlightenment Settings panel, Screen -> 
Screen Setup, which gives another configuratino view on the setup.
Here I activated "Laptop Lid" and "Backlight" for the laptop display (some 
tooltip or help text explaining whast this actually does would not hurt, 
either..). Clicking on "Apply", I noticed that the laptop display backlight(or 
the screen from black to gray?) flickers three times before showing the normal 
screen again.

The same thing happens on entering the session after login. This is independent 
of the options checked in the settings panel.
I can stop this behaviour by deselecting "Restore setup on start" in this panel 
and logout/login or restart, but then strangely the color
stepping on the display reappear. Now I am not sure how all these configuration 
mechanisms play together, but I would like to avoid inducing
some hardware damage by this strange flickering. There does not seem to be any 
error being logged, so it is probably just some autoadjustment of screen size 
or something, but I never had this on any other laptop before.

There also still is the preinstalled ubuntu 17.04 running a gnome3 environment 
on the machine, and there everything looks fine, so it is not a hardware 
problem...

Switching off one of the external monitors produces five flickers, each coming 
in maybe half a second from each other, switching it on again gives seven 
flickers, all only on the laptop display. It looks a bit as if some modes are 
probed and fail or something similar.

Any ideas what that might be and how to avoid it?

regards
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Re: [e-users] recent enlightenment update problems

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On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, Simon Lees wrote:

> There is a setting that applies to gadgets only, ie on the desktop not
> on the shelf, if this was working on the shelf at one point then it was
> probably a bug. Why someone added the feature only for the gadget I
> don't know.

Thanks, it looks like the setting only works after restarting the session,
which is a bit odd.
Restarting once after starting with a fresh configuration also took care of 
the other problems. For now, everything seems to work fine again.

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Re: [e-users] recent enlightenment update problems

[Peter Koellner]

It looks like changes to the "Label only in gadgets setting only take 
effect after restarting the session... The problem with the focus is gone too,
maybe the initial configuration is somehow incomplete for the first session..
There is some other minor problem with the main monitor being dimmed on logut 
now, but that is not too important...

regards
   Peter


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> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 01:26:31PM +0100, Peter Koellner wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:
>>
>>> Rightclick on the flag, most upper menu entry, then the delete menu
>>> item. This should remove the gadget from the shelf.
>>
>> There was another option to just display the current layout language code
>> without the flag, I do not want the gadget gone completely. I thought it
>> was somewhere there in the gadget preferences menu, but I don't see it 
>> anywhere..
>
> Ah, yeah. Just click on the flag -> settings -> options, then the second
> option. The option should say something like "Label only in gadgets".
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Re: [e-users] recent enlightenment update problems

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Hi!

I was wondering if I had a parsing error on that: 
"(Label only) on gadgets" or "Label (only on gadgets)", because it does 
not seem to change anything when ticked and activated/applied.
Spanish translation has the same ambiguity: "Etiquetas solo en los gadgets" - 
which would not do any harm if it would work, though.

Is there anything else I should eliminate together with the .e folder which 
could lead to problems on a release upgrade? Yesterday for some reason the 
black screen turned normal for unknown reasons a couple of minutes after 
starting the session and I worked normally for a couple of hours without any 
focus 
problems, so I only removed the configuration today when the desktop stayed 
dark again...

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 01:26:31PM +0100, Peter Koellner wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:
>>
>>> Rightclick on the flag, most upper menu entry, then the delete menu
>>> item. This should remove the gadget from the shelf.
>>
>> There was another option to just display the current layout language code
>> without the flag, I do not want the gadget gone completely. I thought it
>> was somewhere there in the gadget preferences menu, but I don't see it 
>> anywhere..
>
> Ah, yeah. Just click on the flag -> settings -> options, then the second
> option. The option should say something like "Label only in gadgets".
>
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Re: [e-users] recent enlightenment update problems

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:

> Rightclick on the flag, most upper menu entry, then the delete menu
> item. This should remove the gadget from the shelf.

There was another option to just display the current layout language code 
without the flag, I do not want the gadget gone completely. I thought it 
was somewhere there in the gadget preferences menu, but I don't see it 
anywhere..

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[e-users] recent enlightenment update problems

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

since installing efl 1.18.3 I had a number of problems. It looks like the 
black screen got solved by eliminating the whole .e configuration folder 
again, but now with the freshly installed and reconfigured efl 1.18.4 
and enlightenment 0.21.5 there seems to be a new problem with the input 
focus. It looks like changing the input between windows on two different 
monitors does not work cleanly for some reason. The text I am typing
continues to go to the last focused window on the other monitor and I found it
very difficult to persuade the focus to change by moving the new window to the 
other monitor and back. I tried this with some firefox and IDE on the second 
monitor and a freshly compiled Terminology and a XTerm on first monitor. Is 
this some configuration thing or a bug that should be reported?

Also, how do I get rid of the damn national flag in the keyboard configuration
display in the shelf again? I can't find it in the preferences there, though 
I already did it two or three times before after eliminationg the 
configuration folder in previous updates...

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[e-users] entrance... new results

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I have played around with the entrance source, and hav emade some slight 
progress.
It looks like the entrance_server just went into idle main loop after starting 
the user session,
without ever showing the slightest interst in when or if the user terminated 
the session later.
This is why it apparently had to be kicked out when shutting down and left a dysfunctional display 
when simply logging out. I can't say that I have really solved the underlying problem, because it

would need some better understanding of the ecore API. What I did was
- adding a signal handler for SIGCHLD after running entrance_session_run forked 
the X session, which
  does a ecore_main_loop_quit() now
- adding a _logged=EINA_FALSE to entrance_session_shutdown, because the 
entrance shutdown code got
  stuck there.
- added a -d parameter to change the path to executables so they are drawn from 
the src directory
  instead of from installed PACKAGE_DIR for testing with xephyr.

The result is that now entrance quits immediately after session logout.
No idea if this solves too many problems there, but I have attached the git 
diff output in case
anyone is interested.

regards
 Peter


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index f3e244e..ceafc8d 100644
--- a/src/bin/entrance_client.c
+++ b/src/bin/entrance_client.c
@@ -67,7 +67,7 @@ main(int argc, char **argv)
PT("connect shutdown");
entrance_connect_shutdown();
PT("conf shutdown");
-   entrance_conf_init();
+   entrance_conf_shutdown();
PT("gui shutdown");
entrance_gui_shutdown();
PT("login shutdown");
diff --git a/src/bin/entrance_client.h b/src/bin/entrance_client.h
index 2bb7636..a18f274 100644
--- a/src/bin/entrance_client.h
+++ b/src/bin/entrance_client.h
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 #endif
 
 #include 
-
+#include 
 #include 
 
 #include "../event/entrance_event.h"
@@ -21,11 +21,16 @@
 #include "entrance_gui.h"
 #include "entrance_login.h"
 
-#define PT(f, x...)\
-do \
-{  \
-   printf(__FILE__":%d "f"\n", __LINE__, ##x); \
-   fflush(stdout);   \
+#define PT(f, x...)  \
+do \
+{ time_t time_p; \
+   char date_time[24]; \
+   time(_p); \
+   if(!strftime(date_time, 24, "%Y%m%d-%H%M%S%z", localtime(_p))) { \
+   strcpy(date_time, "stardate-unknown"); \
+   } \
+   printf("%s: "__FILE__":%d "f"\n", date_time, __LINE__, ##x); \
+   fflush(stdout); \
 } while (0)
 
 int entrance_client_main(void);
diff --git a/src/daemon/entrance.c b/src/daemon/entrance.c
index 26abdc8..aca5604 100644
--- a/src/daemon/entrance.c
+++ b/src/daemon/entrance.c
@@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ static void _entrance_wait(void);
 
 static Eina_Bool _testing = 0;
 static Eina_Bool _xephyr = 0;
+static Eina_Bool _debug = 0;
 static Ecore_Exe *_entrance_client = NULL;
 
 
@@ -143,7 +144,11 @@ static void
 _entrance_wait(void)
 {
// XXX: use eina_prefix! hardcoding paths . :(
-   execl(PACKAGE_BIN_DIR"/entrance_wait", PACKAGE_SBIN_DIR"/entrance", NULL);
+   if(_debug) {
+execl("../daemon/entrance_wait", "../daemon/entrance", NULL);
+   } else {
+execl(PACKAGE_BIN_DIR"/entrance_wait", PACKAGE_SBIN_DIR"/entrance", 
NULL);
+   }
PT("HUM HUM HUM can't wait ...");
_exit(1);
 }
@@ -259,11 +264,19 @@ _entrance_main(const char *dname)
   chown(home_path, pwd->pw_uid, pwd->pw_gid);
}
 
+  if(_debug) {
+ snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf),
+  SUDO" --user %s HOME=%s "
+  "LD_LIBRARY_PATH="PACKAGE_LIB_DIR" "
+  "../bin/entrance_client -d %s -t %s",
+  user, home_path, dname, entrance_config->theme);
+  } else {
  snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf),
   SUDO" --user %s HOME=%s "
   "LD_LIBRARY_PATH="PACKAGE_LIB_DIR" "
   PACKAGE_BIN_DIR"/entrance_client -d %s -t %s",
   user, home_path, dname, entrance_config->theme);
+  }
  PT("Exec entrance_client: %s", buf);
 
  _entrance_client =
@@ -272,8 +285,10 @@ _entrance_main(const char *dname)
NULL);
   }
  }
-   else
- ecore_main_loop_quit();
+   else {
+PT("Quit main loop");
+ecore_main_loop_quit();
+   }
return ECORE_CALLBACK_CANCEL;
 }
 
@@ -341,6 +356,7 @@ static const Ecore_Getopt options =
   "If not, entrance will restart if the session is 
"
   "quit because of an error, or if the environment 
"
   "variable ENTRANCE_RESTART is set."),
+ ECORE_GETOPT_STORE_TRUE('d', "debug", "Start in debug mode. use 
entrance client from 

[e-users] ecore main loop api documentation link broken

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

The link to the Ecore main loop API documentation on
   https://www.enlightenment.org/program_guide/main_loop_pg
is broken:

HTTP ERROR 404

Problem accessing 
/job/nightly_efl_gcc_x86_64/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/doc/html/group__Ecore__Main__Loop__Group.html.
 Reason:

 Not Found

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I suspect that this is not the only broken API link there...

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Re: [e-users] efl-1.17/enlightenment 0.20.6 problems

[Peter Koellner]

On Sat, 14 May 2016, Simon Lees wrote:

> Entrance is not actively maintained as far as I know, it has also never
> had a stable release so shouldn't be expected to work well. You can use
> lightdm or any other display manager such as gdm, sddm, kdm etc to
> launch enlightenment.

Well, yes, unfortunately, most displaymanagers are either rubbish or very 
heavy. I already tried several and am now on slim.

> e21 will have a new connection manager gadget I believe, econnman is a
> python app which requires python-efl, you can launch it from a terminal
> to see why it isn't working. alternatively as of NetworkManager 1.2 you
> can build nm-applet with the --with-appindicator build flag



> e20.7 fixes lots of similar issues with chromium, maybe it will fix
> these as well, maybe its a java issue, either way creating a detailed
> bug report on phab.enlightenment.org is the best way to have a chance of
> getting them fixed. (note startup apps dont work in e20.7 e20.8 will be
> out within a week with a fix).

Well, yes, I find it a bit difficult to put this into a bug report that might 
contain any significant, reproducible effects. I'll wait for the next release 
and if it still has the same effects I'll try to write one, which is a bit 
complicated by the fact that phabricator wants to force me to register an 
external account with one of four commercial companies I do not really 
trust and therefore have no interest in associating myself with...

Thanks for the help.

Regards
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[e-users] efl-1.17/enlightenment 0.20.6 problems

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I have been running enlightenment on my desktop for about two years now, on a 
debain 8 64bit laptop with nvidia graphics card. 
The current version is quite recent, and the situation is as follows:

- entrance as display manager does not really work very well, and there have 
been no updates for quite some time now. When leaving the session to shutdown, 
the system hangs for a minute or two. I made an basic init script adopting the 
xdm one, but there must be something wrong, only I have no idea what.

- econnman does not work. The application does not start from the menu and 
seems to crash right on start. Last year I temporarily resolved the bleak 
network management situation by normally connecting via ethernet cable and 
struggling with nmcli if I really must use a WLAN.

- firefox(iceweasel) shows more or less heavy artifacts, depending on the 
currently installed efl/enlightenment version. For some time now, more or less 
large rectangles of the content frequently go flickering heavily, as if some 
part of the display gets constantly resized.

- I am using IntelliJ IDEA for development. With the latest version, I get 
strange artefacts like little to dialog-box sized rectangles showing a copy 
from the Idea window floating as overlays over the top window which will not go 
away until Idea is restarted - but they move with the idea window. They must be 
somehow connected to diverse tooltips and dialogs popping up but failing to 
close properly, especially when switching foreground and background window.

I am not sure how to proceed from here. I would like to continue using 
enlightenment, but I don't really see how I could help with fixing 
those problems. I have switched to fluxbox for now to see if the artifacts 
show up with a different setup, and until now firefox just shows a bit of 
wobble when scrolling, and Idea behaves until now. So chances are high that 
it is really enlightenment to blame.

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Re: [e-users] econnman/python-efl broken?

[Peter Koellner]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015, Simon Lees wrote:

> There is a python-efl for 1.16 in the works. Should be officially around
> in a day or too if you would like to test it, its currently sitting in
> https://download.enlightenment.org/pre-releases/

Done. After getting the same error again, I poked around in the python 
dist-packages directory and noticed *.so files in efl/elementary dating from 
may 16th. After removing them, EConnman sort of starts, but tells me that it 
cannot find connman, which is quite ok, because for now I have NetworkManager 
running instead, took me long enough to make the broadband connection work 
yesterday.

> As for econnman no one is actively maintaining it as far as i'm aware
> but if you submit patches with arc / phab i'm sure someone can be found
> to review them.

I got an account for phab a couple of years ago, but I found it so weird I 
never got around doing whatever I got the account for then... I think I was 
searching for eterm replacement or something like that... anyway, I have to go 
now for the thing I needed the broadband connection for, I'll take a look at 
that later. I surely can produce a patch for the import except statement, but 
if econnman is no longer maintained I have to evaluate if it makes more sense 
doing a NetworkManager gui instead of continuing that. Probably best both, 
since choice of desktop environment should not impose a choice of network 
management system, I'd think.

Also, what would be really good would be if there would be debian packages for 
e (or at least debian package stuff in the sources), since the root cause of 
this problem now twice was unremoved remains from older library versions, since 
it did not occur to me that I had to clean up the python dist-packages 
directory.  Not sure where to start there, it looks like a major task with that 
dependency list.

regards
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[e-users] econnman/python-efl broken?

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I am using enlightenment on a current debian laptop where I already have thrown 
out all the gnome-3 stuff. Yesterday I had to prepare for using the broadband 
connector, so I was wondering how to configure it. 
Now the thing is: econnman just does not work. I just updated from efl 
1.15.2/elementary 1.19.2 to efl 1.16.0/elementary 1.19.3, but it stays broken.

The first error message I got:

$ econnman-bin
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/bin/econnman-bin", line 45, in 
 import elementary as elm
   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/elementary/__init__.py", line 
2, in 
 from efl.elementary.actionslider import *
   File "efl/elementary/actionslider.pyx", line 219, in init 
efl.elementary.actionslider (efl/elementary/actionslider.c:4000)
   File "efl.eo.pyx", line 102, in efl.eo._object_mapping_register 
(efl/eo/efl.eo.c:1445)
ValueError: Object type name 'Elm_Actionslider' already registered.

... was a trap, since there were some old python packages in 
/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages that never got removed when the 
structure changed some time ago.

After some probing around, I found that the imports for efl.* in econnman-bin 
are closed in a try block, with the catchall-except block starting with an 
"import elementary" statement, which by chance still existed and imported old 
crap.

So I just changed the 'except:' to 'except ImportError:' to see what type of 
exception really happens:

$ econnman-bin
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/bin/econnman-bin", line 25, in 
 from efl.elementary.window import Window, ELM_WIN_BASIC, \
   File "efl/elementary/window.pyx", line 1, in init efl.elementary.window 
(efl/elementary/window.c:21839)
   File "efl/elementary/object_item.pxd", line 73, in init 
efl.elementary.object (efl/elementary/object.c:24613)
   File "efl/elementary/object_item.pyx", line 1, in init 
efl.elementary.object_item (efl/elementary/object_item.c:11094)
   File "efl/elementary/general.pyx", line 416, in init efl.elementary.general 
(efl/elementary/general.c:9201)
   File "efl/ecore/efl.ecore_events.pxi", line 23, in 
efl.ecore.__init__._event_mapping_register (efl/ecore/__init__.c:13128)
ValueError: event type '55' already registered.

I have cleaned up the python dist-packages directory, reconfigured and 
recompiled efl, elementary and then removed the build dir from python-efl 
sources, rebuild and reinstalled that, but still the same error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/bin/econnman-bin", line 25, in 
 from efl.elementary.window import Window, ELM_WIN_BASIC, \
   File "efl/elementary/window.pyx", line 1, in init efl.elementary.window 
(efl/elementary/window.c:21839)
   File "efl/elementary/object_item.pxd", line 73, in init 
efl.elementary.object (efl/elementary/object.c:24613)
   File "efl/elementary/object_item.pyx", line 1, in init 
efl.elementary.object_item (efl/elementary/object_item.c:11094)
   File "efl/elementary/general.pyx", line 416, in init efl.elementary.general 
(efl/elementary/general.c:9201)
   File "efl.ecore_events.pxi", line 23, in efl.ecore._event_mapping_register 
(efl/ecore/efl.ecore.c:13214)
ValueError: event type '55' already registered.


After quite some searching I found the file in 
python-efl-1.15.0/efl/ecore/efl.ecore_events.pxi but the real problem seems to 
be in the (generated?) file efl/elementary/window.c, which has a timestamp from 
may 4th 2015 and comes with the tar archive (checked with a fresh copy).

So Shouldn't there be an update of python-efl for efl 1.16.0? Anybody 
working on that and/or econnman?

Also, python developers, please narrow down except statements like this one in 
econnman-bin.in to ONLY catch those exceptions the except block is planned for, 
they can be quite the waste of time when looking what is going wrong.

My workaround for now will be manual configuration of the network setup like in 
the olden days ;-)

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Re: [e-users] umount external sub does not work because enlightenment process keeps file open

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

So I am in the menu at Preferencias (using spanish locale) - Preferencias 
(the one with the two crossed 
wrenches icon, not the other one with one wrench icon) -> Configure Elementary 
-> More -> Caches. Is that the right place? I didn't see anything under 
'Avanzado', which would probably be the translation for 'advanced'.

There I see under Cache Flush Interval:

[x] Enable Flushing   - 512 ticks
Font Cache Size - 0.5MB
Image Cache Size - 4 MB
Number of Edje Files to Cache - 32 files
Number of Edge Collections to Cache - 64 collections

This is the configuration you mean? In that case flushing should have happened 
after 64 seconds, a bit over a minute, which would be quite reasonable. I was 
trying to unmount the drive for much longer, at least for 10 to 20 minutes 
after closing the files window. So - can it be that in some combination of 
circumstances for some reason the file reference count does not get back to 
zero, or something like that?

regards
   Peter


On Sun, 20 Sep 2015, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:02:27 +0200 (CEST) Peter Koellner <pe...@asgalon.net>
> said:
>
> this is evas's cache holding onto file handles even when not referenced. evas
> has a cache that has 2 parts. active (referenced) files - this is a hash where
> to avoid re-loading the same file we just look it up in our in-memory hash and
> reference the existing copy. for images that go to a reference count of 0 - 
> not
> needed anymore, they go into a LRU (least recently used) list. this keeps a
> limited AMOUNT of data (in MB - where this is not the file size byt the memory
> size when decoded into pixels). the least recently used items are released 
> once
> we exceed our cache size limits. this has always been there in evas to avoid
> re-loading data from disk all the time when we need it again soon after not
> needing it anymore. this is one of those black-magic bits of efl and e that
> actually make it perform very well.
>
> the problem is - it's holding onto the files e displayed in its preview popup
> in the cache. yes - there are api's to flush the cache/set its size etc. there
> is config in e under "advanced" that lets you set cache sizes and a cache 
> flush
> interval (e will expunge all 0 ref count items every N ticks. 1 tick = 1/8th 
> of
> a second). so lower flush interval ad the problem will go away for now. or 
> well
> drop it to 8 ticks and after 1 second your unmounting will work happily. :)
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just had the effect that I can't unmount an external USB drive after
>> opening one of the files in there from the file manager window, neither from
>> shell nor from the desktop disc icon menu.
>>
>> peter@kropotkin:~$ umount /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT
>> Error unmounting block device 8:17:
>> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.DeviceBusy: Error
>> unmounting /dev/sdb1: Command-line `umount  "/media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT"'
>> exited with non-zero exit status 32: umount: /media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT: target
>> is busy (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is
>> found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).)
>>
>>
>> I have closed the atril viewer, but lsof +D /media/.../topdir says that the
>> enlightenment process still has the file open:
>>
>> peter@kropotkin:~$ lsof +D /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT/
>> COMMANDPID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME
>> enlighten 3800 peter  127r   REG   8,17 7918 101096 /media/peter/TOSHIBA
>> EXT/Empresa/2015/q3/Gastos/aaa/x/yy.pdf
>>
>> The effect is reproducible by clicking on the desktop disc icon and
>> double-clicking on some PDF document. The atril viewer pops up. After closing
>> the viewer I get the following result:
>>
>> peter@kropotkin:~$ lsof +D /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT/
>> COMMANDPID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME
>> enlighten 3800 peter   75r   REG   8,17  1772495 35 /media/peter/TOSHIBA
>> EXT/doc/TOSHIBA CANVIO BASICS.PDF enlighten 3800 peter  127r   REG   8,17
>> 7918 101096 /media/peter/TOSHIBA
>> EXT/Empresa/2015/q3/Gastos/aaa/x/yy.pdf
>>
>>
>> atril is no longer running at this point.
>>
>> I have efl and elementary 1.15.1 and enlightenment 0.19.9 installed...
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
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[e-users] umount external sub does not work because enlightenment process keeps file open

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I just had the effect that I can't unmount an external USB drive after opening 
one of the files in there from the file manager window, neither from shell nor 
from the desktop disc icon menu.

peter@kropotkin:~$ umount /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT
Error unmounting block device 8:17: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.DeviceBusy: Error unmounting 
/dev/sdb1: Command-line `umount  "/media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT"' exited with 
non-zero exit status 32: umount: /media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT: target is busy
 (In some cases useful info about processes that
  use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).)


I have closed the atril viewer, but lsof +D /media/.../topdir says that the 
enlightenment process still has the file open:

peter@kropotkin:~$ lsof +D /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT/
COMMANDPID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME
enlighten 3800 peter  127r   REG   8,17 7918 101096 /media/peter/TOSHIBA 
EXT/Empresa/2015/q3/Gastos/aaa/x/yy.pdf

The effect is reproducible by clicking on the desktop disc icon and 
double-clicking on some PDF document. The atril viewer pops up. After closing 
the viewer I get the following result:

peter@kropotkin:~$ lsof +D /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT/
COMMANDPID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF   NODE NAME
enlighten 3800 peter   75r   REG   8,17  1772495 35 /media/peter/TOSHIBA 
EXT/doc/TOSHIBA CANVIO BASICS.PDF
enlighten 3800 peter  127r   REG   8,17 7918 101096 /media/peter/TOSHIBA 
EXT/Empresa/2015/q3/Gastos/aaa/x/yy.pdf


atril is no longer running at this point.

I have efl and elementary 1.15.1 and enlightenment 0.19.9 installed...

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Re: [e-users] entrance segfault with efl-1.15? (Was: Re: how to leave presentation mode)

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I had finally time to test it today, and it works again...I have also added an 
entrance system user now.

Thanks a lot!


On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:

 The segmentation fault is fixed.
 There was a second problem, efreet could not be fired up, which resulted
 for me in a black screen. I added a config option so the user which is used 
 for
 the greeter is configurable. It can be configured in entrance.conf with the 
 key work start_user.
 To have a working user it just should have a homedirectory, that should
 be enough. The default configured user is entrance. If the configured
 user is not working nobody is taken. Which might end up in a black
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[e-users] entrance segfault with efl-1.15? (Was: Re: how to leave presentation mode)

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:


What was the last time you build it ? Did efl-1.15 cause the problem or
the entrance update ?


Well, I had entrance running as default display manager for a couple of months 
now, so yesterday I downloaded and installed first the efl-1.15 and 
enlightenment 0.19.8 sources, and then did a recompile on entrance. Of course, 
there have also been a couple of updates for debian 8 in the last few months, 
too.
I switched back to xdm for now since I had not come around to fine tune the 
init script anyway, so it did hang on shutdown for a couple of minutes for some 
reason. Sooo... today I made another make distclean; make; sudo make install 
and then started the test:

/opt/src/entrance# utils/entrance_xephyr.sh 
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_config.c:82 _users_get() entrance: Updating configuration

INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:421 main() Welcome
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:435 main() session init
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_session.c:52 
_entrance_session_cookie_add() write auth on display :1.0 with file 
/var/run/entrance.auth
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_session.c:465 
_entrance_session_desktops_init() scanning directory: /usr/local/share
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_session.c:515 
_entrance_session_desktops_scan_file() Adding Enlightenment as wm
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_session.c:465 
_entrance_session_desktops_init() scanning directory: /usr/share
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_session.c:515 
_entrance_session_desktops_scan_file() Adding GNOME 3 (JHBuild) as wm
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_session.c:515 
_entrance_session_desktops_scan_file() Adding MATE as wm
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_session.c:515 
_entrance_session_desktops_scan_file() Adding TWM as wm
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:189 _entrance_main() starting...
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:206 _entrance_main() Exec 
entrance_client: /usr/bin/sudo -u nobody LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib 
/usr/lib/entrance/entrance_client -d :1.0 -t default
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:448 main() history init
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_history.c:235 _entrance_user_init() scan 
for users
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:472 main() action init
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_action.c:205 
_entrance_action_grub2_get() trying to open /boot/grub/grub.cfg
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_action.c:215 
_entrance_action_grub2_get() open /boot/grub/grub.cfg ok
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:474 main() server init
ERR7324:ecore_con lib/ecore_con/ecore_con_local.c:373 
ecore_con_local_listen() Local socket '/var/tmp/.ecore_service|entrance|42' bind 
failed: Address already in use
ERR7324:ecore_con lib/ecore_con/ecore_con_local.c:379 
ecore_con_local_listen() Local socket '/var/tmp/.ecore_service|entrance|42' connect 
test failed: Connection refused
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance.c:476 main() starting main loop
ERR7324:entrance_client src/daemon/entrance.c:163 _entrance_client_error() 
ERR7329:efreet_cache lib/efreet/efreet_cache.c:249 efreet_cache_init() Failed to 
create directory '/nonexistent/.cache/efreet'

ERR7324:entrance_client src/daemon/entrance.c:163 _entrance_client_error() 
ERR7329:elementary elm_config.c:3353 _elm_config_sub_init() Problem accessing 
Elementary's user configuration directory: /nonexistent/.elementary/config/

X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
ERR7324:entrance_client src/daemon/entrance.c:163 _entrance_client_error() 
ERR7329:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:1005 _connection_get() Error connecting to 
bus of type 1. error name: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed error message: 
/usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 
initialization failed.

ERR7329: lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:1067 eldbus_connection_get() safety check 
failed: conn == NULL
ERR7329: eldbus_elementary_colorclass.c:122 elementary_colorclass_proxy_get() 
safety check failed: conn == NULL

INF7324:entrance_client src/daemon/entrance.c:182 _entrance_client_data() 
src/bin/entrance_client.c:58 login init
src/bin/entrance_client.c:60 gui init
src/bin/entrance_gui.c:80 Gui init: default

INF7324:entrance_client src/daemon/entrance.c:182 _entrance_client_data() 
src/bin/entrance_client.c:62 conf init
src/bin/entrance_conf.c:203 conf init
src/bin/entrance_conf_main.c:346 conf main init
src/bin/entrance_conf_user.c:485 conf user init
src/bin/entrance_conf_theme.c:187 conf theme init
src/bin/entrance_client.c:64 connect init

INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_server.c:18 _entrance_server_add() 
server client connected
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_server.c:19 _entrance_server_add() 
Sending users
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_server.c:24 _entrance_server_add() 
Sending actions
INF7324:entrance src/daemon/entrance_server.c:30 _entrance_server_add() 
Sending xsessions
INF7324:entrance 

Re: [e-users] how to leave presentation mode

[Peter Koellner]

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:

 Hello,

 On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 11:19:54PM +0200, Peter Koellner wrote:
 hi!

 i have just upgraded to efl-1.15 with enlightenment 0.19.8. Now there are a 
 few minor problems...
 first of all, I have also updated entrance from git and recompiled it, and 
 it does not seem to work any longer.

 What was the last time you build it ? Did efl-1.15 cause the problem or
 the entrance update ?

I built it a couple of months ago with some of the last stable sets with 
efl-1.14 or 1.14.1 and enlightenment 1.19.0
Compilation and install works, but my experimental init script derived from the 
xdm start script does not work anymore, and when I start it manually from 
commandline with sudo /usr/sbin/entrance I only see the input fields, an empty 
button where the session selection should be and the login button. settings 
leads to a dead page, and Login also leads to an empty display if I type in 
credentials. 
I did a

git pull
./autogen.sh --sysconfdir=/etc --prefix=/usr
make
sudo make install


 But that is a different issue, after starting enlightenment manually, a 
 notification window pops up and tells me that I am in presentation mode 
 and... vanishes before I can read the rest.
 I guess I have been in presentation mode for half a year or so now since 
 screen blanking stopped working a long time ago.
 So - how do I leave presentation mode? Is there a menu setting somewhere?
 I only found one entry how to enter presentation mode, but nothing for 
 leaving it...

 You should have a menu entry Modes in the settingsmenu 
 (MainMenuSettingsModes),
 where you have a checkbox, so you can enable/disable it.

Great! That did it! It never occured to me to look there, always searched in 
the Options menu above that...

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[e-users] how to leave presentation mode

[Peter Koellner]

hi!

i have just upgraded to efl-1.15 with enlightenment 0.19.8. Now there are a few 
minor problems...
first of all, I have also updated entrance from git and recompiled it, and it 
does not seem to work any longer. 
But that is a different issue, after starting enlightenment manually, a 
notification window pops up and tells me that I am in presentation mode and... 
vanishes before I can read the rest. 
I guess I have been in presentation mode for half a year or so now since screen 
blanking stopped working a long time ago. 
So - how do I leave presentation mode? Is there a menu setting somewhere? 
I only found one entry how to enter presentation mode, but nothing for leaving 
it...

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[e-users] display manager

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

since I have started the very complicated process of throwing out gtk+ from my 
desktop now to get rid of their client side decorations completely - Is 
entrance still under development or is there a current replacement? I am about 
to kick out gdm3 as display manager to get rid of the dependencies.

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Re: [e-users] display manager

[Peter Koellner]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, toki clover wrote:

 It's not actually... maybe for lack of manpower. If you have the time to,
 do not hesitate to...

 Well, the app is still in pre-release state or alpha at best... If you need
 a display manager, you can give it a shot, or else, try a light gtk variant
 i.e. lightdm+lightdm-gtk-greeter, or even, slim--a lighter variant without
 gtk+ dependencies.

Ok, thanks. I looked at lightdm, but I would want to replace the gtk greeter, 
and to do that I would probably have to register with ubuntu's launchpad for 
uploading additions, which I have decided not to do for some long-term 
strategic reasons. I am currently back to having xdm installed, with evince 
compiled from sources for a manual tryout period. From first impression it 
looks like there are a few layout problems, I don't know if I'll manage to do a 
lot about that. Of course I feel obliged to participate a bit...

regards
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Re: [e-users] display manager

[Peter Koellner]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, toki clover wrote:

 If you go to that discursive route... I'd prefer a million time a clean
 (and efficient) C variant rather than... python (monster.)

I'd prefer C++ or C for any important system component, especially security 
sensitive stuff.

 Anybody who have some free time... do not hesitate to give a hand
 to... entrance.

Well, I am lokking at the source code now, but it is a bit difficult without 
any comments or documentation and no description how to test it within the 
current desktop. Where would I begin?


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Re: [e-users] display manager

[Peter Koellner]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote:

 2015-06-06 19:50 GMT+03:00 Wolfgang Morawetz wolfgang.moraw...@gmail.com:
 We have enter.
 It is a greeter in elementary and python.
 https://github.com/wfx/enter


 why not use entrance?

Yes, I meant entrance, just had evince on my mind because I also had to replace 
it today for the gtk 3 headbangerbar. Found mate-desktop's atril (gtk2-based 
evince fork).
The problem with entrance is that the layout is a bit broken, I am not sure 
what caused that. The git sources I checked out last year seem to be unchanged 
until today, so there probably are some bits and pieces that might need fixing. 
I'll try enter too...

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Re: [e-users] Screensaver problems, was: Re: Efl and Elementary 1.13.1 release

[Peter Koellner]

On 02.03.2015 00:57, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 this isn't perhaps intel drivers? and why can't you switch to a text 
 console?
 anyway - a while ago i found that intel drivers became flakey where 
 sometimes
 on screen unsuspend (coming back from dpms) the opengl drivers
 themselves would
 literally hang. they'd trap enlightenment in the middle of some 
 opengl
 rendering call and thus e would be stuck. the only solution was a
 reboot. this
 was a driver problem. if you can get a backtrace from e when in this 
 state...
 you might find the same.

It is a Lenovo Thinkpad T510 with an NVIDIA graphics board and another 
integrated Intel graphics, if I understand it correctly. Normally the X 
display uses the NVIDIA driver. I'll check for debug infos later. 
Regarding the other problem - I managed to update to efl 1.13.1 and 
enlightenment 0.19.4 yesterday, and the screensaver is still not working 
unless I start xscreensaver manually. I'll take a look at log files 
later after work..

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[e-users] Screensaver problems, was: Re: Efl and Elementary 1.13.1 release

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

While I am waiting for the download... I recently discovered that in the last 
few versions the screensaver does not work anymore. Sometimes I get thos note 
that the screensaver went out too fast after waking up the laptop from sleep.
I can start xscreensaver manually.

I don't know if this is related, but sometimes on waking up from sleep, the 
screen stays dark with the mouse pointer active, and when I push the right 
button over where a window edge would be, I see the move or resize icon. 
Switching to a text console was not possible, so I had to cold restart the 
machine to get the desktop back.

My current installation is from the follwoing versions:
ls efl1.12-e0.19.3/
econnman-1.1   emotion_generic_players-1.12.0  evas_generic_loaders-1.12.0  
python-efl-1.12.0
efl-1.12.2 enlightenment-0.19.3expedite-1.7.9   
terminology-0.7.0
elementary-1.12.2  enventor-0.4.1  exquisite-1.0.0


I'll install efl1.13.1 and elementary 0.19.4 next to see if those problems are 
solved there...

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Re: [e-users] menus stalling when trying to select them

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I am experiencing the same effect, also if opening the menu from the 
panel.

On 03.02.2015 02:23, Conrad Hill-Knight wrote:
 This is something that's been bothering me for a while, and i think i
 just have something misconfigured. When i left-click on the desktop 
 to
 bring up the main enlightenment menu, sometimes (often, actually) it
 stalls. I see the menu, and select, for example, Applications.
 This displays the next sub-menu as expected, but then when i hover 
 the
 cursor over one of the entries, although it is highlighted, the next
 level sub-menu doesn't appear.

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Re: [e-users] Strange effect shutting down machine, Re: Efl and Elementary 1.11.4 releases

[Peter Koellner]

Well, I just want to follow up on my inquiry so nobody gets confused by 
that question into thinking there
were actually some issue with enlightenment.

It turns out the effect happens regardless of the operating system, so 
it looks like an emerging hardware problem
after all, and the installation of the newer enlightenment versions was 
pure coincidence.

regards

On 29.10.2014 00:20, Peter Koellner wrote:
 I want to report a very strange behaviour which I guess must be some
 kind of bug. It happened the second time today with 1.11.4 installed,
 the last time two or three weeks ago with one of the former releases.
 What happens is: In the middle of working, suddenly a dialoguebox
 pops up asking me if I really wanted to shutdown the computer, and
 before I can do anything or get to the cancel button, the X display
 folds and I see the shutdown console messages.
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[e-users] Strange effect shutting down machine, Re: Efl and Elementary 1.11.4 releases

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I want to report a very strange behaviour which I guess must be some kind of 
bug. It happened the second time today with 1.11.4 installed, the last time two 
or three weeks ago with one of the former releases.
What happens is: In the middle of working, suddenly a dialoguebox pops up 
asking me if I really wanted to shutdown the computer, and before I can do 
anything or get to the cancel button, the X display folds and I see the 
shutdown console messages. Today it happened while using the laptops touchpad. 
I am not sure about the last time, I could then not rule out I hit some freak 
key combination by accident.
The system is a current debian 64 bit on a late 2011 Lenovo Thinkpad T510 model 
with enlightenment build from source downloads.
I am not sure where to look for more hints, did not find anything in any log 
file. syslog has nothing before the kernel shutdown message. It just seem to 
have happened out of the blue. Any ideas?



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[e-users] EFL 1.11/e 0.18.8 desktop filer usage..

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I just tried to copy some files between external USB sticks using the desktop 
filer (wahtsitcalled?) in EFL 1.11/enlightenment 0.18.8 and got two issues I do 
not like too much.

Firstly, there still does not seem to be a keyboard shortcut or .. icon do go 
to the parent directory, and there seem to be no configration for that. Or did 
I miss that?

And secondly, when using drag and drop between two external disks (i.e. two 
different file systems) I would expect the file to be copied, not moved. Maybe 
other people have different opinions about this, so I would expect at least to 
be able to configure this behaviour somewhere. It already happended twice today 
that I had to copy files of 1G back because I forgot how it behaves. So - is 
there some way to configure this?

Apart from that, it gets better and better with each release...

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[e-users] Terminology fonts

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

Yesterday I installed the latest stable release for EFL 1.83, 
elementary 1.8.2, enlightenment 0.18.0 and terminology 0.4.0. First of all 
I would like to say that I really am glad I could switch my desktop back 
to enlightenment this year.

Now... Once upon a time I used to use eterm as my terminal emulator, until 
the need for full UTF-8 support made me switch to gnome-terminal. So I tried 
out terminology yesterday. It really looks promising. I did have some trouble 
with the font selection in the settings menu, though. First of all, it does 
not make much sense to have all proportional fonts displayed in the list, 
because it is really hard to search for suitable monospaced fonts there. 
Then, for me personally the best terminal font to use seems to be 
'DejaVu Sans Mono Bold', but I did not see it in the selection list, 
only 'DejaVu Sans Mono'. I found a config file at
~/.config/terminology/config/standard/base.cfg, but it is in 
a binary format, so I could not edit the font name there.

So my question is: is there a way to set the font manually somewhere?

regards
   Peter

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[e-users] efl-1.8.3: configure error, mount not found..

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

What exactly does this mean:

/opt/src/e1.8/efl-1.8.3$ less config.log

configure:47806: $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors libudev = 148
configure:47809: $? = 0
configure:47856: $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors mount = 2.18.0
Package mount was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `mount.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'mount' found
configure:47859: $? = 1
configure:47873: error: pkg-config missing mount = 2.18.0


peter@kropotkin:/opt/src/e1.8/efl-1.8.3$ mount --version
mount from util-linux 2.20.1 (with libblkid and selinux support)


The system is a debian wheezy amd64


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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment 0.17.4 hangs on init

[Peter Koellner]

On 05.09.2013 08:04, Markus Törnqvist wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 06:59:34PM +0200, ADA wrote:

  3. Use eet to disable the splash screen in your e.cfg file. You can
keep all your settings this way.

 I did this. I miss the splash screen, is it coming back? ;P

 Also, the primary monitor starts off all white with most of the
 other monitor white as well - the e17 desktop doesn't cover all
 the screen. It goes away if I restart e17 through the menu.

 Just to let you know this kind of bug exists.

I found a workaround for a laptop double monitor setting without 
changing anything in the configuration. Just close the laptop lid and 
wait until the screen goes dark. Then open the lid and the desktop 
should appear. Maybe this works also with only laptop main screen 
connected...

regards
   Peter


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[e-users] E17, keyboard language icon in panel

[Peter Koellner]

Hi!

I just installed E17 from compiled soruces on a debian system as a gnome 
replacement candidate and it looks great (apart from a few minor quirks, 
which I need to examine further before starting to write bug reports).
There is one minor thing with the panel where I am looking for a configuration 
option i can't find. I have a german keyboard configured and so the panel 
shows me the german national flag as a symbol. Now, I would like to make 
that disappear. I only want the two-letter code there, not a national symbol,
especially not this one, staining my 100% anarchist desktop. Could anyone 
give me a hint how to make that thing disappear (the flag, not the keyboard 
indicator, I still have a use for that) without an in depth search through 
the inner wirings?

cheers

   peter

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Re: [e-users] E17, keyboard language icon in panel

[Peter Koellner]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Dale Snell wrote:

 In the Keyboard Settings window, it's the topmost entry in the Options
 tab: Label only.  Enable that and restart E, and you're good to go.

Thanks, that is much better :-)

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