Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
Curtis Napier wrote: I vote for Gentoo. /me runs away giggling to self. Better start emerging NOW! -- Until later, Geoffrey War never solved anything, well, except slavery, fascism and communism --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: debian stable is not old. it was released last august Not that I expect anything to change, but... I know it was just released, but Debian's approach to it's releases has their latest release containing software that is always older versions then what other distros release within the same timeframe. Personally, I don't have to admin the box, I don't really care what it runs. :) I was just trying to stir things up as well. -- Until later, Geoffrey War never solved anything, well, except slavery, fascism and communism --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
On Monday, 20 February 2006, at 16:26:32 (-0500), Geoffrey wrote: Personally, I don't have to admin the box, I don't really care what it runs. :) I was just trying to stir things up as well. Then STFU. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- I'll be leaving soon; it's hard to say when I'll return, and I don't want to lead you on. So if you feel the need, close your eyes and share this dream. It will be Eternity. -- Blessid Union of Souls, Forever for Tonight --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:26:32 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: debian stable is not old. it was released last august correction - it was updated last august to r1. (i spend too much time following it to remember which is which) Not that I expect anything to change, but... I know it was just released, but Debian's approach to it's releases has their latest release containing software that is always older versions then what other distros release within the same timeframe. Personally, I don't have to admin the box, I don't really care what it runs. :) I was just trying to stir things up as well. :) -- Until later, Geoffrey War never solved anything, well, except slavery, fascism and communism --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
OK - I thought its time to say something here. It seems we are on the road to get our own dedicated boxes. We likely will move development CVS too - SF.NET has been iffy with their DEV CVS support of late as well and our own DEV CVS will let us offer anoncvs mirrors trivially via rsync. WWW will likely move too as we finally will get full freedom for our webserver. Mailing lists will likely stay on SF.NET. Anyway - more importantly why is this taking so long. I've been waiting to hear back on tentative requests for free hardware first. I think it's time to stop waiting. (Ben - if you don't get back to us ASAP on Sun's position the assumption is it's a no). So I think we should go ahead and get this underway. Overall Dell seem to provide what we need. we don't need expensive SCSI drives and controllers. a simple SATA drive with raid 1 is probably better. their poweredge 850 with a dual core pentium d should do us , 2gb of ram, 250gb SATA drives x2 gigabit ethernet x2, and 3year next business day warranty (much cheaper and frankly all we really need as an extra 20 or so hours of down time shouldn't break us). dells' price ex shipping is $2784. I will check what discount we can pull today. :) but expect some mail soon with a target price. Before i go any further - any more suggestions? -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:53 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any further - any more suggestions? Probably time to start the What OS should it run? flame war now. B-) Even though I don't use it on the desktop, Debian Stable always gets recommended by me for network servers that need to be rock solid and have ample bandwidth. For two reasons. Debian Stable is very stable due to the very conservative nature of the Debian process of producing what they call Stable. It's old versions of software that have been around for long enough to prove that they are problem free, but with the latest security patches. The second reason is that you can't go past the Debian update procedure if you have bandwidth to spare. In this case there is a third reason, raster uses Debian. B-) pgpS6YFT819O9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
David Seikel wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:53 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any further - any more suggestions? Probably time to start the What OS should it run? flame war now. B-) Even though I don't use it on the desktop, Debian Stable always gets recommended by me for network servers that need to be rock solid and have ample bandwidth. For two reasons. Debian Stable is very stable due to the very conservative nature of the Debian process of producing what they call Stable. It's old versions of software that have been around for long enough to prove that they are problem free, but with the latest security patches. The second reason is that you can't go past the Debian update procedure if you have bandwidth to spare. In this case there is a third reason, raster uses Debian. B-) And Debian stable is also very old because of the approach Debian takes to updates. I'm very likely fighting a loosing battle here, but I'd go for a rock solid slackware install -- Until later, Geoffrey War never solved anything, well, except slavery, fascism and communism --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:11:17 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:53 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any further - any more suggestions? Probably time to start the What OS should it run? flame war now. B-) THAT is not a war to be had on these lists as it will be a decision for those that admin the box. :) we are thinking windows 2000 server :) (if you didn't get the sarcasm - you aren't reading right!) :) Even though I don't use it on the desktop, Debian Stable always gets recommended by me for network servers that need to be rock solid and have ample bandwidth. For two reasons. Debian Stable is very stable due to the very conservative nature of the Debian process of producing what they call Stable. It's old versions of software that have been around for long enough to prove that they are problem free, but with the latest security patches. The second reason is that you can't go past the Debian update procedure if you have bandwidth to spare. yup - i'd lean to debian sarge (which is what current stable is). it's new enough, yet conservative - with EXCELLENT security updates as we need them with simple 1-liner updates. for remote management it should be one of the top options. imho. In this case there is a third reason, raster uses Debian. B-) hehe - even those that don't tend to agree that a production server remotely located is likely best dealt with with debian. we can't just plonk a new cd in... :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:29:25 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Debian stable is also very old because of the approach Debian takes to updates. Yes, we work on a bleeding edge window manager, but there is a reason it's called bleeding. Old is good when you want something that has stood the test of time. We don't need bleeding edge features, we need something that is stable. That is, after all, the main reason we are going it alone, sf.net's anon cvs is unstable, as is thinktux. pgpkCLl10YjrH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:11:17 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:53 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any further - any more suggestions? Probably time to start the What OS should it run? flame war now. B-) THAT is not a war to be had on these lists as it will be a decision for those that admin the box. :) we are thinking windows 2000 server :) (if you didn't get the sarcasm - you aren't reading right!) :) Even though I don't use it on the desktop, Debian Stable always gets recommended by me for network servers that need to be rock solid and have ample bandwidth. For two reasons. Debian Stable is very stable due to the very conservative nature of the Debian process of producing what they call Stable. It's old versions of software that have been around for long enough to prove that they are problem free, but with the latest security patches. The second reason is that you can't go past the Debian update procedure if you have bandwidth to spare. yup - i'd lean to debian sarge (which is what current stable is). it's new enough, yet conservative - with EXCELLENT security updates as we need them with simple 1-liner updates. for remote management it should be one of the top options. imho. In this case there is a third reason, raster uses Debian. B-) hehe - even those that don't tend to agree that a production server remotely located is likely best dealt with with debian. we can't just plonk a new cd in... :) I vote for Gentoo. /me runs away giggling to self. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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I vote Openbsd. I personally like that for servers. ethier that or netbsd or freebsd will do.--IncOn 2/19/06, Curtis Napier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:11:17 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:53 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any further - any more suggestions? Probably time to start the What OS should it run? flame war now.B-) THAT is not a war to be had on these lists as it will be a decision for those that admin the box. :) we are thinking windows 2000 server :) (if you didn't get the sarcasm - you aren't reading right!) :) Even though I don't use it on the desktop, Debian Stable always gets recommended by me for network servers that need to be rock solid and have ample bandwidth.For two reasons.Debian Stable is very stable due to the very conservative nature of the Debian process of producing what they call Stable.It's old versions of software that have been around for long enough to prove that they are problem free, but with the latest security patches.The second reason is that you can't go past the Debian update procedure if you have bandwidth to spare. yup - i'd lean to debian sarge (which is what current stable is). it's new enough, yet conservative - with EXCELLENT security updates as we need them with simple 1-liner updates. for remote management it should be one of the top options. imho. In this case there is a third reason, raster uses Debian.B-) hehe - even those that don't tend to agree that a production server remotely located is likely best dealt with with debian. we can't just plonk a new cd in... :) I vote for Gentoo./me runs away giggling to self.---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642___enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:35:46 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe - even those that don't tend to agree that a production server remotely located is likely best dealt with with debian. we can't just plonk a new cd in... :) The rasterman has spoken. /flamewar pgp5LMJDfB9K9.pgp Description: PGP signature
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OS flamewar Debian I vote Openbsd. I personally like that for servers. ethier that or netbsd or freebsd will do. I would go with Trustix. :) -- Morten :wq --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:29:25 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: David Seikel wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:53 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any further - any more suggestions? Probably time to start the What OS should it run? flame war now. B-) Even though I don't use it on the desktop, Debian Stable always gets recommended by me for network servers that need to be rock solid and have ample bandwidth. For two reasons. Debian Stable is very stable due to the very conservative nature of the Debian process of producing what they call Stable. It's old versions of software that have been around for long enough to prove that they are problem free, but with the latest security patches. The second reason is that you can't go past the Debian update procedure if you have bandwidth to spare. In this case there is a third reason, raster uses Debian. B-) And Debian stable is also very old because of the approach Debian takes to updates. I'm very likely fighting a loosing battle here, but I'd go for a rock solid slackware install debian stable is not old. it was released last august. -- Until later, Geoffrey War never solved anything, well, except slavery, fascism and communism --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP! (STATUS)
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:02:25 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:35:46 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe - even those that don't tend to agree that a production server remotely located is likely best dealt with with debian. we can't just plonk a new cd in... :) The rasterman has spoken. /flamewar i will repeat what i said before in reply to david. this is not an open for discussion thing. its pointless waste of mail bandwidth. those administering, running, installing etc. the box will choose what to use. what is most practical and convenient that meets the needs will win on technical merits. not on votes. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
