Re: [EuroPython-Improve] [EuroPython-Members] Notes from the EuroPython Reboot session at PyCon UK 2014
I'm available for doing a trip to Vienna / Wien and help visiting the location and negotiating a contract. I can go there with Ewa, for instance. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:11 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@europython.eu wrote: On 22.09.2014 16:44, Kerstin Kollmann wrote: On 22/09/2014 16:36, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Next, we discussed the location question. I mentioned that we had been in discussions with several different onsite teams who had approached us. Most teams found that they were not really prepared yet for running the onsite work group. Only a team from Vienna is still interested. There are also discussions with the Berlin team on whether they would want to work as onsite team under the new model. For Vienna I had done some research on venues and found two hotels as well as two convention centers which could hold a 1000 attendee conference. We have not reached out to those yet to see which dates would be available, since we're still waiting for confirmation from the onsite team. Interesting, there's been no mention of this at any of the recent Python User Group meet-ups. Is PyUGAT (http://pyug.at/) even involved in this at all? I don't know, since Fabio is leading the discussions. I just did a bit of research to get a feeling for the availability of such venues in Vienna. Would also be interesting to know which venues you found that you thought were suitable for a conference like this! Viennese local here, fwiw. Here's the research info I had sent to the EPS board list: Most open source events appear to happening at the: * FH Technikum Wien: http://www.technikum-wien.at/ They don't have a information about the lecture room sizes only and the events are usually in the 100-300 attendee range, so probably not suited for a EuroPython. The University Vienna would probably have large enough auditoriums, but again, I couldn't find any details. I then found these two conference hotels: * http://www.austria-trend.at/Hotel-Savoyen-Vienna/en/seminar.asp * http://www.austria-trend.at/eventhotel-pyramide/en/seminar.asp The second one is a little larger and has a quite spectacular architecture. The room prices are reasonable, so at least those could be contacted for quotes. And, of course, there's a Vienna Congress Center: * http://www.messecongress.at/ which has room for up to 3000 attendees. They also have prices online: * http://www.messecongress.at/nt/download/congresscenter/raum-preisliste.pdf The whole building can be had for around 20k EUR per day (without catering), so that's around 100-140k EUR for 5 days conference + sprints; but we'd probably not need the whole building. Catering probably costs another 100k EUR, so we'd be at around 200k EUR for the venue. There's also the Austria Center Vienna: * https://www.acv.at/ The link didn't work, so couldn't check the location, but it seems to be at a similar scale as the above congress center. and, much more Vienna style: * http://www.hofburg.com/ With large rooms: http://www.hofburg.com/raeume/raumplaene_und_details but way too expensive for us: http://www.hofburg.com/organisieren/preise/kongress__tagung Here's a conference calendar I found, which lists some additional locations: http://convention.austria.info/de/kongress-kalender The https://www.acv.at/ link does work now, so I can confirm that it's definitely suitable for EuroPython size conferences. However, looking at their packages, it's probably too expensive as well: https://www.acv.at/planen/packages/Konferenzpackage20141.html unless we get a good deal. Thanks for the notes, btw. Best Regards, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director EuroPython Society http://www.europython-society.org/ ___ EuroPython-Members Mailing List https://www.egenix.com/mailman/listinfo/europython-members EuroPython: https://www.europython.eu/ EuroPython Society: http://www.europython-society.org/ -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython-Improve mailing list EuroPython-Improve@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] conference length
Il giorno 17/apr/2014, alle ore 14:29, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com ha scritto: Hey Carina, On 04/17/2014 10:24 AM, carina.ha...@dlr.de wrote: This definitely it not a perfect compensation for attending a talk live, but it might help some of you to consider this. I personally use this a lot on conferences which offer streaming and/or recordings. Okay, I now I gave my two cents. But this shall be enough. :) That's a good point, of course, thank you. I think it would be good to take stock at some point though, and see whether in 2015 and beyond we may want to go back to the previous duration of the conference or make other adjustments. As Andreas suggested, we could to some type of survey, though I wouldn't do it *just* at the conference itself, as you'd only catch those willing to show up for 5 days there. :) On the other hand, asking to people that didn't attend one of the 5-days conferences is not very useful as well. I think the best target would be people that attended both formats. Thanks for your feedback. I’ll get back to your first message: I was told by @europython on Twitter I wasn't required to show up for 5 days of talks. I can make my own, shorter conference. So do I cut off the beginning or the end? I'd prefer the sprints, so I guess I should show up in day 3? What if a talk I submitted gets scheduled to day 2, though? Or if I actually prefer seeing the talks on day 1 and 2? Now I have to make those difficult choices myself. This quoted part gets to the point. If the conference was 3 days long, it might well be that that specific talk on day 2 wouldn’t make it to the schedule, because the schedule would contain *less* talks, so you wouldn’t get to see that talk anyway. Of course, a point could be made that you would get a better selection of talks in only 3 days, but, on the other hand, it would be more likely to have a schedule conflicts between such talks. It’s not an easy cut, and I’m sure we agree that there’s no solution that fits everybody. At the end of the day, more talks for more days seems like a better overall solution, and people are welcome to consider it a 3-days conference if they feel so. Consider that the submissions far exceed even the current schedule, so it’s not like “anything gets in”. Notice also that we got lots of positive feedback for the 1-week formula; the hallway track is far better because you have more time to meet people, talk to them, remeet them a second time, schedule a meetup, go out for a dinner or a beer. In a 2-and-a-half conference, it’s much harder, especially at the size of EuroPython. I would also account for the fact that almost 900 people joined EuroPython in Florence last year, with more than a 2x boost in 3 years, and the general feedback has been overwhelming positive. Even sponsors found the 1-week format acceptable for the exhibition, though it is obviously not a standard. Once they join, they see that they get to talk to people during the 5 days, it’s not like they have lots of people in the first day and nobody in the following days; and even for sponsors, it’s OK if they join only 3 days if they feel so and they want to keep the budget tight. As for the trainings: participation in trainings has very much exceeded any previous figures, when the trainings were in separate days. Separate days is a worst solution under any point of view: it requires a different conference pass and for different days, so people need to evaluate whether they want to join more days (= more hotel costs) with an additional cost for the pass, “just” to join 3-4 trainings (maybe). Maybe you really only want a 4-hour dive into *1* specific topic, not 4 of them; would you pay the full training ticket for just 1 or 2 trainings you really care about? Figures say most people don’t. Even in PyCon USA, there is a very large difference between attendance to the conference and attendance to trainings, and that’s a shame. It’s also a big loss for conference organizers, because they have a severely under-used venue; venues are quite expensive and give the best value for the money when they’re almost full (let’s say, at least 80% full). If you use a venue at 30%, it’s a loss of money and you could as well use another venue in those days, and this makes organization more difficult. Making them parallel to the whole conference has been a serious won for everybody. So, while I’m personally always open to experimenting new formats and playing with new ideas, I would say that we have an overwhelming majority of positive feedbacks on the new structure, and it incidentally works much better cost-wise. -- Giovanni Bajo Python Italia APS EuroPython Society signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ EuroPython 2014 - July 21th-27th in Berlin EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org
Re: [EuroPython] Extra Personal ticket charge to Early Bird conditions on Monday
Il giorno 08/feb/2014, alle ore 13:39, Jacob Hallén ja...@openend.se ha scritto: lördagen den 8 februari 2014 12.32.41 skrev Hynek Schlawack: Let's all be nicer to each other, hm? We're on the same team. Hynek got it absolutely right. EuroPython is a community conference. It is run by volunteers for the community. When they make mistakes, we need to help them on the right track by offering constructive critcism. The mistake with the Early Bird tickets was that there was a limited number of tickets in each category, rather than a limited number of Early Bird Tickets for the entire pool. I'm sure the organizers will fix this. It doesn't make sense that you can still be a Corporate Early Bird, but not a Personal Early Bird. But this is just a “political” mistake, so to speak, it doesn’t change things much budget-wise. I think the frustration is misdirected; there is nothing inherently wrong with the approach of selling a fixed number of early bird tickets compared to a fixed date. Obviously, the first system gives a simpler budget to work with. The real (unfixable) problem is that the number of early bird tickets is probably too low compared to the expectations, as it doesn’t even cover aficionados willing to buy tickets before the schedule is out (in previous years, we were selling early birds up to 3 weeks after the schedule was published). As already mentioned by Marc-André and Jacob, the local organizers did absolutely *their best* to make the budget work, and we went through it multiple times as well. The venue that was chosen is in fact very expensive, and was chosen to accommodate the growth of the event, with the expectation of a jump when moving from a relatively small city (albeit very touristic) to a big European capital. The fact that they’re now putting 50 more early-bird tickets out, shows that they’re trying to fix the problem as much as possible. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython Society EuroPython 2014 https://ep2014.europython.eu signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] More thoughts about conference's fees
Il giorno 07/feb/2014, alle ore 12:04, Samet Atdağ sam...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi, On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Giovanni Bajo giova...@pycon.it wrote: Il giorno 07/feb/2014, alle ore 02:47, Samet Atdağ sam...@gmail.com ha scritto: So there were two major costs (except my holidays) : (plane tickets + hotel) and registration fee. I used to live in a fairly close country to Italy, (Turkey) so plane tickets were around 200-300€. If we ignore daily expenses (like food, beers etc.) half of all costs would be the registration fee (which was around 300€). Just to set the record straight, the early bird, personal, full ticket (inc. training) was €240 in 2012/2013. It didn’t include access to the conference dinner, which was €40 (the conference dinner is included in EP2014). The lite ticket (without training) was €190. I talked to a lot of people in EP2012 and there were only a few people paying the costs. Others were supported by their companies. Again, just to put hard numbers out, the split between company, personal and student tickets in 2013 was 45%, 45%, 10% respectively (I don’t have the records here, so I’m quoting off the top of my mind, but it should be correct). I wouldn’t represent EuroPython as a conference where most people are being paid by their employer. Thanks for numbers. People buy personal tickets and companies pay cash to them. This happens. Yes we know, we have been very strong in communication to avoid this, and on the other hand the idea is to keep company prices not outrageously more expensive than personal tickets. If you ask them to pay 20-30% more, I guess most of them will comply just because they don’t want to go through the hassle of cost-deduct a receipt with an explicit red notice “this is not tax deductible for companies”. So I guess number of employee-supported people might be higher than 45%. I agree on that EP is not that type of conference, but if this increasing trend in fees continues, than less and less individuals will have opportunity of attendance. I agree. I can assure that it’s an explicit goal of the EPS to keep the conference fees low. Then PSF kindly paid my costs in 2013 for PyCon. This year PyCon will be in Montreal, I can't attend because of dates. And I can't attend Europython because I'm not supported by any company, I missed early bird tickets and 400€ is not cheap. Please notice that there is a financial aid program for EuroPython as well: https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/registration/financial-assistance/ and you’re welcome to apply. Having this opportunity always make me feel that I'm in a great community. It would be great to be able to afford the registration fee as a full-time employee. I want to attend Python conferences. But if registration fees are expensive, it'll be like a private party, less number of people will show up and probably individuals not supported by any company will miss the fun. I'll miss the fun. I understand your frustration. The main issue with the price is always venue costs, and venues tend to get proportionally more expensive as the conference grows. We could probably get a very cheap venue holding max 200 people, and sell tickets for €100 each. Would that make the conference less or more inclusive? Obviously, there would be wider range of people that are able to afford the conference, but at the same time there would be less tickets available, it would get sold out in less than a day, and the sale would sound like a gamble. I see and understand the point. Sorry for my ignorance, do we know how PyCon handles bigger crowds? (If I remember right, PyCon registration was 300$ last year.) PyCon US gets a very large number of sponsors from the US market, which is far bigger in this regard. Nonetheless, we understand that there is a strong feeling that the current prices are beyond the threshold for some people. Thanks for your honest feedback, it is valuable. Thanks for understanding complaining people. By the way, Giovanni, EP2012 was awesome. Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo Python Italia APS EuroPython 2014 https://ep2014.europython.eu signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started
Il giorno 03/feb/2014, alle ore 12:50, John Pinner funth...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hello, On 3 February 2014 02:43, Giovanni Bajo giova...@pycon.it wrote: Il giorno 01/feb/2014, alle ore 12:59, Michael spark...@gmail.com ha scritto: 400? Christ on a bike, europython used to be affordable. Florence was ridiculously expensive (when you factor everything in). A 5-days conference with tickets starting at €100 for students and €190 for an individual ticket, including catering of course. On top of that, we got 200 beds with prices at €39 per person per night in double room, and other 200 beds at €45 per person per night, at the 4-star conference hotel, all taxes included. In Florence. EuroPython 2010 was £120 at the extra early bird rate, for a 2.5 days conference, and hotels surely can’t get much cheaper. Let’s even assume that that means “much cheaper” for you, still i wouldn’t call EP in Florence “ridiculously expensive”. All of which is true, except that youa re neglecting to mention the Partners Programme. The only way I could justify going, giving a shortage of money and time, was to treat it as a holiday and take my long conference-suffering wife. However the cost of the PP was far too high, maybe that's what Michael meant by (when you factor everything in). Hi John, that might have been true the first year; we got painful feedback on that, and acted, by adding more organization time towards skipping any middleman and hiring directly the guides. The second and third year had pretty reasonable tours in my opinion. Santa Croce: €8. Ponte Vecchio and Reinassance way of living: €8. San Marco Museum: €10. Santa Maria Novella: €10. Etc. They all included an English speaking guide and entrance fees where applicable. I think the prices were in line with EuroPython UK (http://ep2010.europython.eu/about/partners/). Since the event itself can only be described as moderately more expensive than EuroPython UK (and only if you don’t look at per-day cost), I guess the only people that were really impacted were UK people that were saving on the travel the previous years. I can see that and sympathize with them, but I don’t agree that the event was so more expensive for the average European. NOTE: I’m comparing relative numbers between UK and IT. I’m not saying that the event is “cheap” or “expensive” on absolute terms. -- Giovanni Bajo Python Italia APS EuroPython 2014 https://ep2014.europython.eu ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Pricing (was Re: Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started)
Il giorno 01/feb/2014, alle ore 19:23, Stefanie Lück lue...@gmail.com ha scritto: I think it is difficult to fit all needs and wishes (quantity, quality and costs). One major advantage of the PyConDE for me was, that the tutorials and talks were on different days. Because of this, I did not spent to many holidays and the costs for accommodation was much lower. Perhaps you might think and discuss this for future conferences. You’re mixing cause and effect. If tutorial days are on different days, and you skip them, you get a shorter conference. Nobody prevents you from joining only 2 or 3 days of Europython instead of 5, and save on the hotel. Furthermore it could be convenient if the program start and end about lunch time. People could save two nights at a hotel, if they live not to far away. Again, you’re welcome to arrive later on the first day and leave earlier on the last day; you’ll miss part of the program, but the program you’re missing wouldn’t exist anyway, if the conference was shorter as per your suggestion. Once a venue is booked for the day, it’s a waste to use it only for half-day. -- Giovanni Bajo Python Italia APS EuroPython 2014 https://ep2014.europython.eu ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[Europython-improve] Mailing list subscription broken
Hello, we have a static form on the EuroPython website that is used to quickly subscribe an user to the mailing list. The static form sends a POST to the URL http://mail.python.org/mailman/subscribe/europython. It used to work last year, but it is now broken, with this message: You must GET the form before submitting it. It looks like it is some sort of XSS protection. Can we get around it, eg: disabling it for the europython list? -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Mailing list subscription broken
Il giorno 11/feb/2013, alle ore 18:38, Gianluca Sforna gia...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il giorno 11/feb/2013 16:53, Giovanni Bajo ra...@develer.com ha scritto: The static form sends a POST to the URL http://mail.python.org/mailman/subscribe/europython. It used to work last year, but it is now broken, with this message: Mailman usually allows subscribing also by sending a mail to the list with subject 'subscribe' or an empty one to listname-join@domain Details at: http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node13.html Yes, that's our second-best option, thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2013 https://ep2013.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] New comment on a subscribed page
We do run comment through Akismet, but we receive many spam per day. Even if just one per day passes, that's one speaker per day harassed with spam in their inbox. I understand it's really inconvenient. I'm thinking of this quick fix: add recaptcha for not-logged-in comments. This should bring false positives down by another order of magnitude. Eventually, we should probably switch to disqus. I'm hoping the disqus guys will be happy to provide us with the SSO integration feature for free :) Il giorno 10/feb/2013, alle ore 14:47, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com ha scritto: Someone is regularly uploading link spam comments to EPC talk pages. I remove them regularly, but they keep coming back. Is there something we could do about this ? Original Message Subject: New comment on a subscribed page Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:02:03 - From: i...@pycon.it To: m...@egenix.com Hi Marc-André Lemburg, A new comment has been added to this page: https://ep2013.europython.eu/conference/talks/introduction-to-python-database-programming Comment by: mkxciyzuw -- zgswjyiii http://www.christianlouboutinfemmesoldes.fr lwrqmdmma [url=http://www.christianlouboutinfemmesoldes.fr]Louboutin Chaussures Homme[/url] hpwtgarrj htzbkkyag http://www.abercrombiefrancesoldes.net udxsffwrb [url=http://www.abercrombiefrancesoldes.net]abercrombie soldes[/url] qkzevmgqh fwoqhqwyv http://www.abercrombie-paschersoldes.com dxmgsitlu [url=http://www.abercrombie-paschersoldes.com]abercrombie pas cher[/url] sujhmerzq lcgzzqcgn http://www.louboutinfemmepascher.fr erbolpabl [url=http://www.louboutinfemmepascher.fr]chaussure louboutin femme[/url] rczfehqvx baldkqhep http://www.abercrombiepaschersoldes.fr wpwudeeml [url=http://www.abercrombiepaschersoldes.fr]abercrombie amp; fitch[/url] ecusrinhl -- -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Do you need any config changes/access to resources?
Il giorno 05/feb/2013, alle ore 23:18, Alex Willmer a...@moreati.org.uk ha scritto: Python Italia members, Thank you for organising a third conference, I was bowled over last year with your dedication and slick, slick organisation. I've updated the signature on the europython mailing with this year's date. Are there any EuroPython accounts that you lack access to, or any configuration changes your need to be made? Hi Alex, thank you very much, I am happy that you enjoyed the conference. This year, we added IPv6 support to EuroPython website and John Pinner already added the required records in the DNS zone. We're already live in the v6 world, in fact :) One thing that is missing for a full IPv6 experience is that the current authoritative nameservers (ns.hosteurope.com and ns2.hosteurope.com) do not seem to be reachable over IPv6. I was wondering if it was possible to configure the domain so to add a third external slave nameserver; in that case, python.it is able to provide a slave nameserver reachable over IPv6, and that would close the loop (it's sufficient that only one of the NS be reachable over IPv6). Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2013 https://ep2013.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] RSS feed broken
Il giorno 05/feb/2013, alle ore 18:48, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com ha scritto: Just wanted to let the webmasters know that the RSS feed is currently broken (it worked a couple of weeks ago, so this must have been a recent change): https://ep2013.europython.eu/blog/feeds/latest/ The title of all posts reads PostContent object. Thanks, will fix it ASAP. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[EuroPython] EuroPython 2013 - July, 1-7
Hi, I'm pleased to announce that EuroPython 2013 will be held in Florence, Italy, on July 1-7. The conference structure will follow last years' model of 5 weeks of parallel trainings+talks, plus 2 days of sprints. The final website will be online within the following two weeks; we plan to open the call for proposals on February 1st. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2013 https://ep2013.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013 - July, 1-7
Il giorno 12/gen/2013, alle ore 13:48, Federico Caboni federico.cab...@crs4.it ha scritto: The conference structure will follow last years' model of 5 weeks of parallel trainings+talks, plus 2 days of sprints. Wow, that's awfully long! ;-) Eheh sorry for that, I obviously meant 5 days :) -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2013 https://ep2013.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...
Il giorno 11/gen/2013, alle ore 12:32, Horst Gutmann ho...@zerokspot.com ha scritto: @Giovanni: Is this payment system tightly integrated with the rest of the website or could it be replaced (e.g. externalized)? It's not that tightly integrated. We do have a fork where it's removed already, but there is some merging involved, plus we don't directly own the fork (it's been licensed), so there's also some politics. I'll see what we can do. In fact, I would be extremely happy if we get to a point where the codebase is finally open-sourced. I don't think it will be easy to adopt for other conferences but at least it's a start. So the goal is clear and I agree with it. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2013, 2014, 2015, ...
We only need a server-side payment gateway, we don't need a full ERP program nor modules of it. Il giorno 11/gen/2013, alle ore 16:51, Matteo Boscolo matteo.bosc...@boscolini.eu ha scritto: Have you never think about to using OpenERP ?, it seems that version 7, just released, have all the requirements .. Rgerads, Matteo Il 11/01/2013 12:32, Horst Gutmann ha scritto: @Giovanni: Is this payment system tightly integrated with the rest of the website or could it be replaced (e.g. externalized)? @Filip: For the German PyCon conferences we built our own system that is based mostly around django-cms. Right now we are updating it for PyCon DE 2013 and it is available on https://bitbucket.org/PySV/pycon_de_website if you're interested :-) On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Giovanni Bajo giova...@pycon.it wrote: Il giorno 10/gen/2013, alle ore 22:32, Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com ha scritto: I have another question. On the meeting where the board has been chosen there was also a mention about EP conference registration web system to be open sourced. I'm asking, because it could be potentially used also for local PyCons websites. There are two main hurdles with it: 1) The website is not meant to be a generic CMS, where people with no web programming experience can setup a PyCon website. It still requires proficiency in Django and HTML/CSS design. This also means that there is no installation guides, and no clear separation points between specifities of EuroPython and the generic part that could be reused. Our dream would be to get to a point where EuroPython-specific code/templates are separated into a different Django app, but we're not there yet. 2) We relay on an internal payment gateway / ticketing system which is a large Python-based application (with different technologies, different DBs, etc.) for the sole purpose of issuing payments (through PayPal) and invoices. The system is indeed quite large, and we use only a small subset of it; this is basically an incomplete transition, but I don't know if it can be fixed this year. Moreover, the PSF has been quite uninterested in helping with this, because they are already sponsoring a similar effort: the application that powers the PyCon US website. You might as well look into it. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Student Ticket Papers
Il giorno 29/giu/2012, alle ore 19:35, Ariel Ben-Yehuda ha scritto: Which papers do I need to bring for an EuroPython Student ticket (Payment papers, ?) No paper is required. Just show up and register at the registration desk (open all the time). -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Europython warm up in Rome
Il giorno 26/giu/2012, alle ore 21:03, Nicholas H.Tollervey ha scritto: Hi, When is the final due to start..? For those of us not interested in the football it may be good to agree on a time (8:30?) and place (the hotel foyer) to meet before going on for a sociable meal somewhere in the centre of town. IMHO, if Wiliams just has TVs, I think you can still go there, sit in the same room, and just have a different conversation :) But obviously, it's your call. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Free Wifi zones in Florence
Il giorno 25/giu/2012, alle ore 15:08, M.-A. Lemburg ha scritto: Found this map while doing some research: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=itie=UTF8msa=0msid=213531737140095011066.00049bee7185a02c18902ll=43.780638,11.240044spn=0.032777,0.080937iwloc=00049bef9971b45d4077foutput=embedz=14 FYI, those require registration via SMS, and you get max 2 hours max 300Mb per day. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Free Wifi zones in Florence
Il giorno 25/giu/2012, alle ore 15:59, Erik Allik ha scritto: Does anybody know how fast is the 3G provided by the 20€ local SIM cards that we've been offered to purchase? And what is the data usage limit on them? In general, are they an OK substitute for wifi? At least for non-bandwidth intensive stuff (i.e. no torrent and no Skype video calls). Hi Erik, the 3G SIM is nominally UMTS 7.2Mbps. Actual speed is usually around 1 Mbit/s. It should work OK for mail, mobile web browsing, etc. It feels obviously slow on a computer. The conference center has thick walls, so within the rooms you don't always get 3G signal; in that case, your phone will fallback to 2G EDGE which is obviously much slower. I live in Italy and use 3G all the times; it's an OK substitute for wifi to me, eg: I never pay for wifi in hotels when I travel around Italy. Obviously your mileage may vary. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Europython warm up in Rome
Il giorno 23/giu/2012, alle ore 20:35, Hynek Schlawack ha scritto: +1. Any locals who could organize something? So, let me sum it up: you are looking for a place where you can go, have a chat, and eat something for dinner, on Sunday evening (the day before EP starts)? Should it include a way to watch the Euro final or not? -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [Europython-improve] Partner Program 2012 released!
Il giorno 10/mag/2012, alle ore 19:10, Marius Gedminas ha scritto: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:07:44PM -, i...@pycon.it wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, now you can join our Partner Program! You people are amazing! Thanks :) We've prepared a specific page dedicated to the program with [guided tours and visits to museums at cheap rates](http://ep2012.europython.eu/partner- program/)! Two minor issues: 1. https://ep2012.europython.eu/partner-program/#the-uffizi-gallery says Cost per person: €15, but in the shopping cart that tour is €30. Which one is correct (probably the shopping cart, I think)? 2. On the same partner-program page, if you click on Share This, you get 'Discover null in the partner program at #europython'. It shouldn't be null. 3. On the shopping cart page there's a typo: Balance will be payed diretly at the registration desk. 'diretly' - 'directly' Fixed, thanks! Three minor issues. I'll come in again. ;) 4. Also, I do not quite understand what 'You can book every tour with an advance of 30€.' means. Does it mean I can reserve any tour by paying an advance of 30€ instead of paying the entire price? How does that work -- the checkout form doesn't seem to allow for that possibility, it always charges the full price, as far as I can tell. It's a leftover since last year, thanks for noticing. There's no separate advance this year,, as we focused on cheaper tours (on average), so we don't believe it's worth the advance+balance split anymore (with all the administrative burden it carries). -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] Clarification on hotel display.
Il giorno 04/mag/2012, alle ore 13:09, Gadget/Steve ha scritto: The hotel display on the website reads From date until date - is the second date the last night of the booking or the checkout date - I can't quite remember and the invoice doesn't specify just gives the total paid. It's the checkout date. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] room sharing
Il giorno 01/mag/2012, alle ore 11:46, Andrew Dalke ha scritto: I checked yesterday and today, and it looks like there no more room sharing for EuroPython for the conference hotel done as part of the purchase process. At least, it gave me a big red no room available for every option from double to quadruple room, for the time range 1 July to 7 July. I ended up buying my ticket without opting in for any room. We're sorry but the hotel rooms are currently sold out. We've now disabled them in the cart. We are working on this with the hotel, and with nearby hotels. We will see what we can do. Mediterraneo has been promising us additional rooms for quite some time, but they ended up not being available on the 2nd and 3rd of July, which makes them far less acceptable for us (given that we take the whole risk of not selling them). Hotel reservations are a fluid process, rooms get continuously booked and canceled, and hotels like Mediterraneo basically manage to win the system by having high levels of (potential) overbooking; we will see what this week and the next brings us. It's also the first time ever that we sell rooms directly on our website (I don't think PyCon US has been doing it either), so we're learning lots of things in the process, in the way you need to discuss this with hotels :) Is there anything set up for room share otherwise? Not that I know of, having a passive wiki didn't work out too well last year. You can try on this mailing-list, or if you use twitter and you mention @europython, we will retweet it to give it more visibility. Also, there is a typo in https://ep2012.europython.eu/hotel-concession#roomsharing the URL is https://ep2012.europython.eu/p3/tickets but should have the ending '/' https://ep2012.europython.eu/p3/tickets/ Fixed, thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Changing a personal ticket to a company one
Il giorno 24/apr/2012, alle ore 23:48, Marius Gedminas ha scritto: Hello, dear organizers! I've bought a (personal) conference ticket and hotel reservation early on, because I wasn't sure my company would decide in time how many people it could afford to send to EP this year, and I didn't want the hotel reservations to run out. Now they have decided, and want me to re-register for an official company ticket. I've already paid (through PayPal), and I'm not sure it isn't too late to get a refund, and also I'm not sure how I should go about asking for it. Well, I did click on the 'Refund this ticket' link out of curiosity, and it popped up a box asking for a reason -- which I neglected to provide, thinking I could repeat the process -- and now that ticket is frozen with refund pending, and I can't enter the reason again I'd also hate to lose the room reservation in the main hotel (although room sharing reservations for quadruple rooms appear to be still available). Personally, I'm fine with paying out of my own pocket, but with a company ticket EP would get more money, which is also nice... You did the right thing: you asked for a refund on the previous ticket and room. We will approve and process the refund in 3 days, as specified. The refund interface is still rusty, but it helps us on the backend side of things. We will eventually improve it. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Query on (hotel) Dress Code
Il giorno 23/apr/2012, alle ore 20:32, Gadget/Steve ha scritto: Hi All, My wife, who is not into software but loves the idea of a visit to Florence, has raised a question that I thought I would pass on as I can not find any information on the web site. What is the expected style of dress for: a) The hotel b) The Conference? While the conference code of conduct clearly states that excessive sexuality would not be acceptable she would like know if, reasonable length, shorts would be acceptable day wear about the hotel, etc. Hi Steve, most people at the conference will simply dress casual; that's not unlike most technical conferences out there. The code of conduct is basically trying to address excessive sexualized clothing/costumes (eg: so-called booth babes); wearing shorts is absolutely acceptable per-se, and is surely a common clothing in the summer season. While walking around the city, and in the hotel, you will find many different styles of dresses, including business suites in the day and very elegant dresses in the evenings, and lots of casual and informal dressing (very common among tourists). So for going around the city itself, I would say that any style of dress that makes you comfortable is OK. You can surely find many pictures of crowded Florence squares (on Flickr or Google) to get an idea of the mixed styles. Please let me know if I can further help you on this matter. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Talk voting is now open
Il giorno 26/mar/2012, alle ore 12:24, M.-A. Lemburg ha scritto: i...@pycon.it wrote: We are pleased to announce that the [community talk voting](https://ep2012.europython.eu/talk-voting) is now open, and will last until Sunday, 23:59:59 CEST As you know, EuroPython is a conference made _by_ the Python community _for_ the Python community. This is the basic principle that we respect and that makes us believe that the best way to select and filter the 200+ proposals we received is through a public voting process. We feel that the Python community is nowadays so diverse and rich that a small group of organizers cannot fully represent it in choosing the talks. At the same time, we want to make sure that only actual EuroPython participants will be able to select the talks to prevent abuses, and this is why we will give access to talk voting only to people that [buy a ticket](https://ep2012.europython.eu/registration). ## A few suggestions on voting With over 200 proposals among talks, [trainings](https://ep2012.europython.eu/trainings), and [posters](https://ep2012.europython.eu/poster-session), voting will take some time. Make sure to take your time to analyze the proposals and express your preference. We offer several different filters to help you wade through the proposals, including a complete tag taxonomy that has been manually reviewed and refined by our talk manager Lorenzo. If you have some questions on a proposal, you will be abel to leave a comment to the speaker: he/she will receive it in the mailbox and will hopefully answer you and clarify the abstract for everybody else. Thanks for the announcement and congratulations for attracting more then 200+ talk proposals. One question: Can you give a rough idea of how many talk slots are available for the EuroPython 2012 conference ? I've just gone through the list and there are so many interesting talks, that you could easily fill two conference weeks :-) We should have room for roughly 110 talks, 10 trainings and 10 posters. This is an estimate though. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Week-long train tickets
Il giorno 26/mar/2012, alle ore 20:04, Pau Ruŀlan Ferragut ha scritto: salve! I am staying at Pisa for an Erasmus and will be coming to EuroPython (yay!). Is there any recommendation for buying the train tickets for the whole conference period? Something like a 10-day pass or alike? grazie mille, Pau Ruŀlan Ciao Pau, sure! Trenitalia has weekly tickets; they cost a little bit more than 2 times the cost of a single trip; Pisa-Firenze is about €14, so I assume the weekly ticket will be about €30. You don't need to book anything; just buy the weekly ticket on the first day (or the week before, if you want to play safe). Please double-check everything by asking directly at the train station, because things tend to change fast and I'm not be fully up-to-dated; I personally don't use trains very frequently. See you in Florence! -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [Europython-improve] Panel discussions ?
Il giorno 19/mar/2012, alle ore 15:43, M.-A. Lemburg ha scritto: Hello, while thinking about possible talk subjects I came across a subject which would make a good topic for a panel discussion: How can we better reach out to young programmers ? Is there a way to register such panel discussions or should I just file it as regular talk ? We don't have a strict procedure for panel discussions, nor for sprints. As you know last year we didn't have much going on at the conference beyond talks trainings, and that was a precise focus choice; now that we know that the basic structure stands, we are happy to augment it. First question: is there a specific difference between a BoF session or a Panel discussion? In my experience they are mostly the same (though BoF probably facilitate more interaction), but I would like to clarify this. Do we need to differentiate them? I don't think so. My idea was to add a page like the one we have for sprints (https://ep2012.europython.eu/p3/sprints/) where people can submit ideas for panel discussions, others can express interests by subscribing to them. Later, we can show them on the schedule. PS: While registering a few talks I noticed that when selecting 30 minutes as talk duration, the talk page still shows 45 minutes (the edit page shows the correct 30 min). I know it's confusing but we did not get around fixing it. One is net duration of talk (excl QA), the other is the slot length (incl QA). Lorenzo, our talk manager, will be contacting all speakers soon, we will have all these details sorted out and double-checked before the talk voting begins on Monday. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Anyone like to give JavaScript and Objects and Classes in Python tutorials?
Il giorno 19/mar/2012, alle ore 12:38, J.Fine ha scritto: Hi Last year I gave tutorials on JavaScript for Python Programmers and Objects and Classes in Python (or something like that). I won't be at EuroPython this year, I regret. (I'd like to attend but my calendar is full - next year I will, I hope, attend). If anyone would like to give tutorials on these topics I'd be delighted. You're welcome to use the course materials I prepared. Here are links to the hg reposotories: https://bitbucket.org/jfine/python-classes-tutorial/overview https://bitbucket.org/jfine/javascript-for-python-programmers/overview With best wishes for another a great conference Thanks for the offer, we just tweeted about it. Let's see if someone picks it up. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] 404 on paper submission link
Il giorno 12/mar/2012, alle ore 03:09, Raúl Cumplido ha scritto: Hi, I've been trying yo submit a talk and on the next url: https://ep2012.europython.eu/conference/paper-submission/ I am having a 404 NOT FOUND. And I can't find any link to the correct talk submission form. Please, can you send me the link or help me on where I can find it on the web. Sorry about that, the backend thought CFP was already closed because of a typo in the closing date. Now it's open again, and you should easily find all links you are looking for. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Parking the car
Il giorno 09/mar/2012, alle ore 00:57, Thomas Waldmann ha scritto: Hi, I just wanted to book my EP ticket and noticed that you have made a good arrangement with the conference hotel, thanks for that! Thanks! Rooms are limited though, so I suggest people that are sure to come one way or another to book as soon as possible. We will do our best to secure more rooms into this deal, but after this first batch prices might have to go up a little. Blogpost about this is going out asap. But in the end, I did not, because the parking expenses (if any) are unclear. I am from southern germany and might collect some fellow python people from germany and drive by car to Florence. As on the EP site there was no statement about parking costs (and I I'm not sure what you mean by statement. We offer a few suggestions here: https://ep2012.europython.eu/where in the section If you come by car. already knew from last year that this is an issue in florence), I googled a bit and finally found that the grand hotel mediterraneo usually takes 22 EUR PER DAY(!) just for a parking place in their garage, which kind of spoils the whole deal for me. We used to have a convention for that, which downs that to €15/day. Since nobody used it last year, I'm not even sure we've refreshed it this year. I'll have to double check this. One thing we can surely do is to demand and obtain 2-3 free parking slots at Mediterraneo, and then offer them on our website. This can't scale obviously, but it's better than nothing. I'll make sure to put this on the table on our next negotiation meeting, which is next Monday :) Did you talk with them about parking costs? If not, could you do that? Paying almost the same for a car sleeping place than for my personal sleeping place feels a bit weird. ;) In Florence, most of the parking slots are either reserved for residents of each zone, or subjected to a hourly fee. Nonetheless, if you are OK with leaving your car unattended (there's no specific reason why you shouldn't, but some people might be sensitive to this), there are many places where you can park it for free, and then get a taxi or a bus to the hotel. For instance, you could park in a nearby shopping mall free parking (which are usually meant for shoppers, but not enforced as such). The taxi is going to cost you ~10/15 euro one way with luggages. The bus is €1,20 one way. Obviously the best solution also depends on whether you plan on using the car during your staying in Florence or not. I'll try to come up with 2-3 different suggestions on how to park free or very cheaply and put them on that website page. It's never been a priority for the reasons explained above, but it's surely due. BTW: it might sound disingenuous, but we can't be aware that you need more information until you speak up. So, please everybody, speak up if you need help with travel arrangements, or whatnot. We're here to help you. -- Giovanni Bajo EuroPython 2012 https://ep2012.europython.eu Python Italia APS Non-profit association Registered in Italy ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [Europython-improve] poster session displays
Il giorno 01/mar/2012, alle ore 12:09, Dima Tisnek ha scritto: Hey I was wondering if it made sense to offer optional large screen display, or just a large flat tv with hdmi input, as an option for poster presenters. Idea being that posters are hard to change in real-time and that some posters might benefit from time dimension. For example, someone might bring a [paper] poster with some nice plots, with a screen they can show how these plots evolve over time or how easy it is to make one. After all python being dynamic language, so easy to try new things in, etc... I can think of at least a couple posters at us pycon 2011 who could benefit from this. It's a cool idea but it's actually going to be probably much more expensive. We will ask for a few quotes for renting some 60'' displays for a week, but I doubt it's going to be cheaper than high-quality printing. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Call for proposals
Il giorno 01/mar/2012, alle ore 18:13, Laura Creighton ha scritto: a deadline in 18 days, with one week of that the week of PyCon US strikes me as too short. Uh-uhm. I wish we had been faster at announcing the poster session, but I can't rollback time. OTOH, we scheduled a total of 4/5 weeks for the whole CFP because 85% of talks usually arrive in the last 3 days, so it looks like the common pattern is that people become aware of CFP at some point, take a brain note I should propose something, and then when they start seeing tweets or mails saying hurry up! CFP closes this week, they actually sit down and submit the proposal. Last year we had a 2-months CFP and we decided it wasn't worth it. Sliding all deadlines by one week would be unfortunate; we are trying to make the early bird period finish earlier compared to last year, and there is a strict correlation (end of CPS = community voting = schedule online = end of early, the idea being that you can't close the early before or too soon after the schedule is published, otherwise it's not really an early bird but a blind bird). So, I would prefer to do that only if it ends up being an actual problem (= too few submissions). Notice also that a fallback in case of few poster submissions is to talk to authors submissions which are not accepted during the community voting, and ask them if they want to do a poster instead. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] Sprints and Recruiting pages
Il giorno 23/feb/2012, alle ore 16:07, Leonardo Rochael Almeida ha scritto: Hi David, On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 14:32, David Mugnai d...@gnx.it wrote: [...] These pages refer to the previous edition, are almost 100% accurate but we're still deciding on some details. This is the main reason why they are not easily accessible. Thanks for the information. What's the ETA for the decisions on the sprint and recruiting days? We're planning to bring online all pages describing the whole event (*including* sprints and recruiting days) by Wednesday next week. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Poster session at EPC 2012 ?
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 20:01 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: I know this was discussed in the aftermath of last years EuroPython, so was wondering whether we'll have a poster session at this years conference ? I think it would be an interesting addition to the conference since it allows for closer interaction between presenter and interested attendees. We were trying to find out an appropriate physical space for it, before officially confirming it and adding it to the call for proposals. How many posters would you expect to be present at the session, to call it a success? 10? 30? 100? -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [Europython-improve] Website proofreading
[CC += europython-improve] [Some context: Michael has proofread a draft blogpost that will be out in minutes, and I'm elaborating on its contents] On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 13:23 +, Michael Foord wrote: On 16/02/2012 12:08, Giovanni Bajo wrote: OK, you should be able to see draft blog posts now, both on the website and in the admin section. There's a call for proposals draft that I intend to publish as soon as you've proofread it. Hey Giovanni, I've corrected a few minor typos and reworded a couple of phrases. Not an error as such but the vast majority of talks that are presented at the conference. Won't it in fact be *all* the talks? Will there be any talks not from the Python community? (Even companies can be in the Python community, and invited speakers are almost always part of the community...) What I meant was that a small number of speakers are invited by the organizers to give keynotes or talks and don't go through the CFP +Community Voting. I don't really know what is meant by We will try to give to these speakers a favorable schedule? (In the first time speaker section.) A favourable schedule for what? (For speaking? How is one schedule more favourable than another?) First-time speakers are especially worried that people will skip their talks because you get eg. Alex Martelli next door at the same time. At the same time, community voting gives us a very good statistics of what talks will be popular (because of famous speaker or because of interesting subject). Given these constraints, we can try to find a favorable schedule to first-time speakers. It's even been suggested that we reserve a time slot to first-time speakers only (eg: the last slot of each day). This would be in addition to a special reharsal program that we would like to attempt at EuroPython this year; we've done this at Python Italia before. The idea is: 1) we ask first-time speakers to reharse their talks on Sunday afternoon (the day before EP begins). 2) we invite veteran speakers to help reviewing reharsals. We can reward them with a free ticket. 3) First-time speakers get to try their talks once, and get comments on it. They probably have a couple of days to fix them (we can specifically avoid scheduling those talks on Monday/Thursday, so that they have time to fix the talks). Any comments? -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
[Europython-improve] Website proofreading
Hello, if anybody wants to volunteer for proofreading the website of EuroPython 2012, please let me know. We can give you admin access to the website so that you can directly edit the contents. Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] ssl certificate for ep2012.europython.eu
On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 23:12 +0100, David Mugnai wrote: Hi dear ep improvers :) I'm David Mugnai one of the guys of Python Italia. We are going to get an ssl certificate for the upcoming ep2012 site (to be honest we have asked for a wildcard certificate in order to protect also the old site) but as the official domain address I have erroneously chosen postmas...@europython.eu that does not appear to exists. Can you create the postmaster, and redirect it to europython-contact@, mailbox so that I can request again the approval email? Ping Guys, is there anybody that can activate such a mailbox? Or alternatively has access to the DNS so that we can temporarily change the MX record? Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2012
Il giorno 18/gen/2012, alle ore 08:26, Walter ha scritto: Hi all, Some days ago I sent a mail to this mailing list without subscription but I am not sure if it was delivered correctly as I got no reply yet. I would like to attend EuroPython this year. To do so I should book my holiday for it asap before one of my colleagues takes the time off before me and then I would have no chance to come. :( Can you please tell me when EuroPython is planned for 2012? So far I only found a mailing list posts from late December 2011 that the date will be announced early Jan. 2012 but I found nothing so far. Many thanks! Hi Walter, It's July 2nd-8th. The website will be updated as soon as possible. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] The future of Europython
the conference we usually suggest to prepare a brochure for the conference bag, but maybe the poster session is something we should attempt (for both sponsors and regular partecipants). Thanks for the proposals! -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] The future of Europython
Il giorno 18/gen/2012, alle ore 00:06, Ali Afshar ha scritto: On 17 January 2012 18:52, Giovanni Bajo ra...@develer.com wrote: [ Moving to europython-improve@ ] On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 21:45 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: I haven't heard of any proposal either - I guess the size of the conference is starting to frighten people who would otherwise not have a problem with organizing it. My own humble opinion is that it will get harder and harder to move EuroPython around Europe as time goes by. A conference of this size can't be improvised, and I'm truly skeptical that at this point someone from another country can learn how to do it just by joining a few activities online. I'm not sure this argument holds. How did Florence learn to do it? We did 4 PyCon Italy conferences before EuroPython; last PyCon Italy was 380 ppl and last EP UK was 450. Without having built up the experience with PyCon Italy, it would have been absolutely impossible to handle the whole event the way we did. And Birmingham before that, The previous years the conference was smaller. You can probably do something in the 200 ppl range as first attempt (and yes, many many things will go wrong, but people are mostly forgiving about technical details of running a conference), but we're now aiming at 700 ppl in 2012. If the conference stays in Florence for eg another year, it's easy that it will be over 1000 when it leaves. I might be wrong, but I think that the PyCon US model works better because there is an ongoing effort from a group of people (that you could identify with the PSF itself), which is then supported by a local team which gets guidance. That's not how EuroPython works; in EuroPython, the local team does everything, and is a different legal entity. There are also privacy/anonymity issues. Eg: we were handed the PyCon UK budget as a reference to get an idea of how the numbers were working in EP compared to PyCon Italy, and the budget was anonymized. I fully understand the reasons behind it and we will probably have to do the same in the future, but I think it shows that the model is totally different from that of PyCon US. In PyCon Italy, we also do a lot of work offline (= discuss in person or on the phone, in Italian). That doesn't help either for newcomers, but at the same time it is tremendously more efficient than having to write emails to people you can just talk to, in your native language, and this means a far better usage of volunteer time (PyCon US doesn't have a language barrier issue when moving around the states). While organizing the first PyCon Italy conference, we discussed everything by email; the year after, we only discussed things that we wanted to change (= diffs). And so on. EP2011 has been our fifth conference, so there is an incredible amount of things that we simply don't discuss anymore, since we already know how to do them and the way we like it. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] The future of Europython
Il giorno 18/gen/2012, alle ore 00:13, Douglas Napoleone ha scritto: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Fabio Pliger fabio.pli...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/17 Giovanni Bajo ra...@develer.com _Note:_ I'm not including tickets revenue in this consideration as we decided that we wanted a conference affordable to everybody keeping the prices as low as we could. Thus tickets average revenue was almost 0. I think there's still some room to ramp up the tickets prices in order to make the budget look healthier. EuroPython is the second most important Python conference we have, right after PyCon US, so you can safely use their (low) prices are guideline: https://us.pycon.org/2012/registration/ Capping the number of attendees as you've done in 2011 and starting registration early is also a good way to make you feel more secure about the numbers. Ticket price is always a hard call :) Since we've sold out in 2011, and most people seem to be very satisfied with the event, I think that it would sound reasonable to increase prices, since we might expect more people willing to come, and at the same time we can't really host 1000 people in the venue anyway (as much as we would like to). On the other hand, I like the idea of keeping the price low and affordable for everybody, but maybe we should probably work more on grants to help that side of the problem. I actually like the PyCon US model of everybody pays and everybody can ask for a grant, but I'm split about it. I do agree that it's hard take decisions on this. My heart says to keep prices low (at least for students) but... my mind disagrees. Probably we should apply more of the Pycon US model on Europython. This is a very hard balance to make, and depends largely on the Sponsorship level available. For PyCon US we created a 'Corporate' level of registration which we do not take a loss on, while all other levels of registration represent a loss for the conference. We have a substantial contingent of corporate attendance. That is it is the corporations which are paying for their employees to attend, and they can afford to spend a bit more to subsidize the conference for everyone else. EuroPython does the same thing, but the differential between the levels is higher for PyCon US (if my exchange rate math is correct). In the end we have Corporate, Hobbiest, and Student rates, and we try to have a good mix between them to keep that section of the budget sheet balanced. EP UK was far more aggressive in its corporate rate, and it ended up selling an incredible small number of corporate tickets. We were actually baffled at it when we saw the numbers, since they totally didn't match our past experience with PyCon Italy in proportion between students/hobbists/corporate, so we decided to level the prices a bit more. It worked out quite well, since we sold lots more corporate tickets compared to EP UK (in proportion to the total amount of tickets sold). My understanding is that, beyond some point, companies will just ask employees to buy tickets as hobbists and then give money to them as expenses or something like that. In previous PyCon Italy conferences, we had some tax-deduction trick to leverage to prevent companies from adopting this workaround, but our accountant told us that the same tricks wouldn't work at the EU level. So yes, we can probably raise the corporate level a bit, and the hobbist rate as well, but it can't be pushed too far since it's not worked out in the past. The Grant money then comes from the sponsorship pool. The better the sponsorship, the more we can grant. The key here is that each free registration costs the conference more than the opportunity loss, due to the attendance cap, so the budget projections get messy. That is in the budget, we allocate how many free registrations we expect to give out, and then subtract that from the projected registration revenue in the budget, so each grant registration really costs closer to 2 registrations on our PL sheet. In the end it is just book keeping, but it can make your head hurt. Having a good system for managing your budget, and staying on top of it is critical. We use a Google Spreadsheet to handle our budget. We do keep it updated daily/weekly with quotes, confirmed expenses, projects, hypothesis, hopes and what not. We simulate different scenarios as time goes by, and we use all these numbers to make decisions. I believe we're quite on top of it. We did have the same issue with grants being a double loss in a way, due to the attendance cap, and it's a damn tricky issue to handle, especially as (late, pricey) registrations continue to flow. I also wonder how we could help in getting the number of sponsors bumped up to higher levels. One thing that really strikes us as very odd is that there is a large difference in the amount of money that companies seem willing to invest, compared to PyCon US
Re: [EuroPython] Dates for EuroPython 2012 ?
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 20:19 +0100, Paul Boddie wrote: On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19:40:12 Giovanni Bajo wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 16:44 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Do we already have rough estimates for the EP 2012 event ? Yes: July 2nd-8th 2012. I think it is awesome that we get to know the exact date this soon. I can't remember the last year we knew the date this far in advance, and that makes planning to attend easier for a lot of people. To tell you the truth, last year I announced the dates on Nov 10th, 2010, in this very mailing list :) -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Dates for EuroPython 2012 ?
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 16:44 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Do we already have rough estimates for the EP 2012 event ? Yes: July 2nd-8th 2012. No, it's not written anywhere yet, I was just really going to post it before Christmas :) The website will be ready in January. I will post a tentative schedule (call for paper, early bird, etc.) as soon as it's ready. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 Request for Slides
Il giorno 06/lug/2011, alle ore 18:11, Chris Wj ha scritto: If you made a presentation at EuroPython, can you please post your slides somewhere so that we can follow along on the videos. I would really appreciate it. Speakers can make the slides available from the talk page by logging in and pressing the upload button. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Speaker list and schedule as iCal file
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:59:14 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: 1. Will you put up a list with all the speakers on a single page ? Done: http://ep2011.europython.eu/p3/schedule/ep2011/speakers/ (linked from the navigation panel) -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Fwd: laptop question
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 14:03 +0200, Roberto Garofalo wrote: Hi, I have another question about laptop . Could be possible to use a Netbook for the training session ? Since I would like to bring my Netbook since it is more manageable... There is some minimal requirements about software, memory and disk to follow with profit the Training Session ? It depends on which training. You are better off contacting directly the trainer by, eg., writing a comment on the training page. We suggested all speakers to activate notifications on comments on their talk/training page, so the speaker could react very quickly if you leave him/her a comment on the page. -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Wifi pre-registration now online
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:53 +0200, Giovanni Bajo wrote: Since our goal is and has always been to soften all rough edges and let you just enjoy a conference, we will try to come up ourself with a rough translation as soon as possible. I'll let you know as soon as it is online. The full translation is now online, linked from the wifi page. Direct link: http://ep2011.europython.eu/wifi/wifi-terms -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] laptop question
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 18:31 +0300, Konstantin Baikov wrote: Hi, Do you have some spare laptops for training sessions? Or each participant is required to bring their own? Perhaps i can rent one for the week? No, we actually didn't think of setting up a service for this. Something to improve for the next year! -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Wifi pre-registration now online
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:43:10 +0100, Michael Foord mfo...@python.org wrote: On 13/06/2011 20:40, Thomas Waldmann wrote: We found out about this too late in the game, and at that point ComCom refused to provide a legal translation for those terms. So I guess you should be prepared to have quite a lot of people at your conference wifi registration point. ComCom will handle them, and I had already warned them :) So, if they refuse to provide an english translation, do they expect everybody blindly agreeing to their italian terms in a hurry, at their in-conference desk? To me, it somehow looks like it is their job to provide an acceptable translation if they provide services at an international conference. I don't think they'll need a lawyer for this, if they provide just an acceptable translation, it would be fine for most cases, IMHO. Probably legally it wouldn't be fine, which I guess is why they won't do it. That and they don't have to. And yes, they will expect you to agree their terms and conditions, you not speaking the native language is your problem not theirs. :-) Exactly. I tried to raise the point and they told me that their legal counsel told them that it is perfectly fine to ask people to agree to a contract in Italian to use a service in Italy. What we all (here) do obviously agree on is that, while being perfectly legal, it is totally sub-optimal. Our contract with them requires that the service is provided in English, and they think they are complying. I think that starting an argument with them right now would be useless. Since our goal is and has always been to soften all rough edges and let you just enjoy a conference, we will try to come up ourself with a rough translation as soon as possible. I'll let you know as soon as it is online. -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Wifi pre-registration now online
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:40:39 +0200, Thomas Waldmann t...@waldmann-edv.de wrote: Please notice that, for trainings and sprints, we plan to have at least 1 ethernet cable per person, and connection through ethernet is a totally different network that does not require identification nor registration. Plug the cable, dhcp, and there you go. Good plan! In our sprint we might need some peer networking to clone some hg repos or so. No problem with that, all users connected to the ethernet will be on the same LAN. -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Speaker list and schedule as iCal file
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:55:07 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: Giovanni Bajo wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 19:59 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Hello, I have two questions: 1. Will you put up a list with all the speakers on a single page ? We have this on our todo list, which is obviously very late :P Can you please clarify how you would like this list to look like? Just a list of all the names, linked to the personal profile page of each speaker? Or would you rather have a list with the speaker name and all the talks that each speaker gives, like: Giovanni Bajo (= link to profile) * PyInstaller, Track Foobar, 9:30 * Debug Profiling, Track Barfoo, 17:30 This later format would be perfect. Perhaps you could also add the speaker picture to better recognize a speaker among the 600 attendees :-) BTW: Congratulations to your success ! This is going to be the biggest EPC ever. Thanks! We're past 650 registrations right now, and still ticking. Though we'll keep the congratulations on hold until the conference is over... :) -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[Europython-improve] New DNS name in europython.eu zone
Hi, to whomever is in control of europython.eu: can you please add an entry wifi.europython.eu, set as a CNAME of ep2011.europython.eu? Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Editing tutorial description?
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:25 +0100, Ian Ozsvald wrote: Perfect! I see the link. I also see SPAM though on my talk page: http://ep2011.europython.eu/conference/talks/experiences-making-cpu-bound-tasks-run-much-faster#comment-404 I don't see any way to remove/flag it? Who should I talk to about this? There is currently no frontend interface for removing a comment. All comments in all blog posts/talk pages go through anti-spam filters, but obviously there are a few false negatives. We'll remove the spam for you, and see if we can easily add a frontend interface for giving the talk/post-owner access to a comment removal functionality. -- Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] android app for europython
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 13:03 +0100, Nick Martin wrote: Hi Dan, There is a tentative dev branch for a cross platform app. I was working with Oisin on this but he has had to pull out for medical reasons. We had been using Phone Gap for this as it seems to meet the requirements nicely. I can point you in the direction of the code if you like. I'll have to pull out too I'm afraid as I just dont have the time right now. Hi, since there have not been many progresses on these custom apps, I think it's better to cancel this effort; we will make an agreement with one of the existing conference apps that was discussed on this list earlier. Thanks anyway to anybody who volunteered on it! -- Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Schedule is now online
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 14:12 +0100, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: I think I'd be more comfortable with one of the shorter slots, so if one of the other speakers would like to swap I would gladly accept. Hi Floris, your talk has been rescheduled on same day (Wednesday), same track (Lasagne), 14:30, 60-min slot. See the updated scheduled online. Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Schedule is now online
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 12:30 +0100, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: Hi On 28 April 2011 00:08, i...@pycon.it wrote: The subject says it all! Start browsing the schedule now and see what talks have made it thanks to the community voting. Thanks for all the work! But I'm going to be one of those annoying people wondering if they can be re-scheduled. IIRC I submitted for a 45min talk but I'm given a whopping 90min (Exploring CPython's bytecode on Wed morning). While not necessarily a disaster, I think the topic could fill that time, I've never given a talk before and am pretty intimidated by filling up such a large slot. I might be rubbish! (and it's also a pretty long time to keep people's attention) If this isn't the right place to discuss this let me know. Hi Floris, you filed for a 45min net talk time + QA, which is a 60 minutes slot. We had to fill some empty 90-min slots in that part of the ranking, and we opted to go with your talk. A 90-min slot is a 70min talk + 15 min QA + room changing. So your net talking time would be 25min longer. If you confirm that you prefer a rescheduling, I'll get in touch with the other speakers in the same track in the same day (those are the swaps which are more likely and easy to do) and see if someone is willing to swap. It shouldn't be much of a problem, so feel free to confirm your concerns. -- Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] Publication of speakers' data on the web site
On sab, 2011-04-09 at 15:22 +0200, Stefan Schwarzer wrote: Hi everyone :-) On the talk submission form [1] there are required fields for the date of birth and the mobile phone number of the speaker. A bit down is an - also required - checkbox titled I agree to let you publish my data on the web site. Does that actually mean I can only submit a talk if I agree to have my date of birth and mobile phone number published on the website? It's clearly written in the help popup of both fields *and* the checkbox that mobile number e date of birth will not be published. Did you read the popup? Or maybe it didn't display on your browser for some reason? -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Publication of speakers' data on the web site
On sab, 2011-04-09 at 14:37 +0100, Alex Kavanagh wrote: Um, more to the point, why do they *need* your date of birth? Surely, if it's just to make sure you're 18 or over, there can be a tick box saying 'please tick to indicate you're over 18'? Or is there some strange law I'm not aware of? It's written in the help popup of the field. Italian laws require us to do behave differently if we are dealing with minors that are between 14 and 18, and below 14. Plus you would need to explain whether you mean over 14/18 today or over 14/18 at the conference. It seemed easier to us just to ask for a date field, in case *other* laws come up later in the game. It's clearly written that we will not publish this information. In fact, we have *striven* to require as little personal information as legally possible, throughout the whole website, both in the ticket purchase procedure and the speaker talk submission. -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Call for Paper is ending! Please spread the word!
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 11:52 +0200, Bernd Dorn wrote: hi all is there any way to view the already submitted talks, just to have insight on what is already there? we'd like to give a talk, but want to make sure that the topic is not already covered by some other talk. Hi Bernd, you should not worry about duplicate subjects; they can be filtered out during the community voting and/or if both talks get high scores it might even make sense to schedule both. So feel free to go ahead and do your submission. Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] lenght of talks...
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 16:25 +0200, Massa, Harald Armin wrote: Hello, I submitted a talk with duration 45 minutes, but on overview it is 60 minute ... is that room changes bathroom breaks included time? Yes. The design idea is that the submission form shows the net duration (as explained in the popup), while the overview page will become public and non-speaking delegates only know about the talk slots in the schedule. -- Giovanni Bajo ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 20-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [Europython-improve] Mobile app for EuroPython
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 17:08 +0200, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:28:22 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg writes: I've never used the app, but from their website, they do support this kind of requirement: http://www.conventionist.com/features/ (click on Event schedules; the screenshot shows all talks for a given time slot) Yes, this was worthless. I wasn't interested in a list of all talks that were at 11:00 and then a different one for those who were listed at 11:15 -- the important thing was to know that if you were in the talk at 11:00 you couldn't be at the talk at 11:15, so what you need is a nice chart that shows precisely how the talks overlap. FWIW, this specific problem will be less important for EP2011, as tracks will (almost) always be aligned. So if the app can show all talks that start at 11:00, it will give you all the information you need (excluding 4-hour trainings, that is). This is what we've always done at PyCon Italy and has worked pretty well because it is much easier on the delegates: http://www.pycon.it/pycon4 -- Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Badges
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 09:58 +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: Just filled out the badge after receiving confirmation for the ticket. I noticed that it uppercased everything, so it made MOINMOIN WIKI out of MoinMoin Wiki. I don't know whether you intend to do that for the real badges, but may I suggest you do NOT? Also, the preview (if it is a preview of the badge) showed the name and extra line in a rather small font. I'ld like to suggest that you use a font as big as possible for name and extra line - it'll help people to know their names if they can even read it. Do not waste much space for other stuff like that we are at EuroPython or so - we all will know where we are. :) Hi Thomas, the preview badge is just a preview. It's meant to help people understand what those information are needed for (you wouldn't believe how many people just don't get it when it's just a standard form :). In other words, it's not a WYSIWYG representation of the real badge. We still have to work on that one. Thanks for your feedback! -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] Speaker registration
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 17:18 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: i...@pycon.it wrote: Registrations are open! [Buy a ticket][6] before April 11th to take part to the [community talk voting][7]! [5]: http://ep2011.europython.eu/call-for-papers [6]: http://ep2011.europython.eu/registration [7]: http://ep2011.europython.eu/talk-voting Hmm, this introduces a race condition for speakers :-) Since you recommended for speakers to register after the talk voting process, (potential) speakers cannot take part in the talk voting process, it seems. The race condition happens if someone wants to benefit from the discounted rate for a speaker *and* take part into the community voting. It could be argued that someone who submitted a talk should not take part into the voting process. In that case, there would be no race condition. Or he/she can decide to pay the full ticket price and take part to the voting process, giving up the discounted rate he would have access to if his/her talk is later accepted. This compromise has worked out pretty well in PyCon Italy[1], but maybe numbers are different in EuroPython. All in all, we are pretty flexible. If you buy a full ticket, do the voting, and later ask for a partial refund, we won't let you down. There is just no streamlined process for this, that's all. [1] In fact, in 2010 about half of the speakers bought the full ticket anyway to support the event. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 19-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Registering as speaker / EU VAT ID
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 10:57 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: David Mugnai wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 01:38 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: David Mugnai wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 18:58 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Hello, Hi I have two questions regarding the registration process: 1. Speaker signup [snip] Understood, but since speakers have to pay a different conference fee, I was wondering how to register for the conference. Should I first register and then submit a talk, or first submit a talk and then register ? I understand where the misunderstanding arose. Probably our site is not clear enough; we don't have different account types, just different ticket fares. So submit your proposal and wait for the results of the community voting. If your talk will be accepted we will email you the instructions to obtain a discounted ticket (sorry but I don't know yet the discount amount). Ok. 2. Charging VAT to companies [snip] Great. Note that reverse charging the VAT doesn't have anything to do with how much VAT you (would) have to charge in Italy. It puts the obligation to pay VAT on the buying company, instead of on Python Italia. As a result, the taxation happens in the EU country of residence of the company, rather than in Italy, making things a lot easier for both sides. For this to work, Python Italy and the company must both have a VAT ID and the IDs of both must be listed on the invoice. This is the answer from our business consultant: According to article 52 of Directive 2006/112/EC the place of VAT taxation of cultural and educational services is the place where the services are physically carried out. Therefore the purchase of tickets for the attendance of EuroPython 2011 should be taxed in Italy. Of course our invoice will show Italian VAT separated from the taxable amount; anyway as for the above mentioned Article 52, this operation cannot go under the intra-UE VAT reverse-charge scheme. Thanks for cross-checking. I wasn't aware that the special rule for conferences is still in place, since the EU changed the above directive in Directive 2008/8/EC to use the general approach of taxing B2B transactions at the location of residence of the company receiving the services. http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/vat_on_services/index_en.htm You can now find the exception to the general rule (article 44) in article 53. Perhaps you could add a page regarding VAT refund to the site, something like this page for a Swedish event: http://ebneo.org/wp/index.php/details/vat-refund/ This is the official EU page covering the refund topic: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/traders/vat_refunds/index_en.htm For German companies, this is the page they need to check: http://www.bzst.de/DE/Steuern_International/Umsatzsteuerverguetung/01_Inlaendische_Unternehmer/Inlaendische_Unternehmer_node.html Thanks for the references. I have included a link to the explanation page on europa.eu in the registration page, and will add a VAT refund page later with more information from our business consultant. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 19-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[Europython-improve] List of sites and mailing-lists for EP communication
Hi, we're trying to collect a list of websites and mailing-lists where we should post important communications about EuroPython (things like CFP, early bird open/close, etc.). Our current list is quite short: http://www.python.org/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Python comp.lang.python comp.lang.python.announce We do have a much longer list of Italian Python-related websites/lists, though. It would help if you could contribute with either of the following: * A list of Python-specific websites/mailing-lists, either international or national (eg: official Spanish mailing-list for Python) * A list of programming/technology websites/mailing-lists, even if not Python specific, that might be interested in EuroPython. Eg: a community of web developers, a mailing-list for dynamic languages, a news sites for programmers in general, etc. * A list of Linux-specific mailing-list/websites. While Python is portable to many OSs, Linux mailing-lists are usually very interested in conferences about FLOSS software. Thanks! Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] Hotels
On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 13:25 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Hi Fabio, are the rates listed in the hotel list the special rates for EPC ? http://ep2011.europython.eu/pages/where/ When you see the mark Affiliated, we have a special rate thanks to an agreement with the hotel. Otherwise, the list is just for your convenience and contains the price that you can get if you call the hotel directly by phone. They are listed there so that you can save doing a few international phone calls. After the early bird opens, we will be refreshing those rates weekly. You can compare them with those you get in the same hotels through booking portals (eg: booking.com). Is breakfast included in those prices ? We don't know at this point. We will make sure to include this information after the early bird opens. As for the wifi, please consider that we will have a special deal for prepaid SIMs, with tethering included (http://ep2011.europython.eu/mobile/). So one might evaluate this option (especially if he/she owns an unlocked phone) rather than buying the wifi in the hotel. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 19-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Hotels
On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:00 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Giovanni Bajo wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 13:25 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Hi Fabio, are the rates listed in the hotel list the special rates for EPC ? http://ep2011.europython.eu/pages/where/ When you see the mark Affiliated, we have a special rate thanks to an agreement with the hotel. Otherwise, the list is just for your convenience and contains the price that you can get if you call the hotel directly by phone. They are listed there so that you can save doing a few international phone calls. After the early bird opens, we will be refreshing those rates weekly. You can compare them with those you get in the same hotels through booking portals (eg: booking.com). Is breakfast included in those prices ? We don't know at this point. We will make sure to include this information after the early bird opens. Thanks for the clarification, Giovanni and Fabio ! Here's a useful link for (re)searching hotels: http://www.de.kayak.com/hotels/florenz/2011-06-19/2011-06-26 As for the wifi, please consider that we will have a special deal for prepaid SIMs, with tethering included (http://ep2011.europython.eu/mobile/). So one might evaluate this option (especially if he/she owns an unlocked phone) rather than buying the wifi in the hotel. That's an interesting option. Would I have to reserve one of those in advance or will there be enough on arrival for everyone ? You will be able to reserve one (or more) SIM through the website after you've bought a ticket. This should allow us to pre-activate the SIMs for you, so that you can grab them the moment you arrive and they will be already working. People might want to buy more than one Italian SIM for enjoying cheap calls with their partner/family. Alternatively, you can ask for one at the registration desk; we're trying to setup things so that we can get you a SIM in half a day, but the operator might take up to 24 hours to activate it, which would obviously be a shame. I tried finding out how to get an Italian SIM card in Germany, but it appears to be a bit difficult from abroad due to the local regulations in Italy. Even buying one in Italy, I would have to get a local tax number (for whatever reason). We will take care of all the administrative details. We will need a copy of an ID (that you will be able to upload in digital form through the website). Also, we are aiming at prepaid SIMs which are geek-friendly (with data plans, tethering, no VOIP/Skype filters, good speed even on 2G if you go visiting the countryside and you need Google Maps, etc.). Given that we know the market, our hope is that you can simply rely on our service in bringing a good SIM to you without having to sort out the details yourself. Obviously, we will be publishing all details about traffic costs etc., in case someone wants to investigate alternatives by himself. It's just a bit too early right now, since we were going to finalize these agreements with mobile operators by the end of March. You might want to buy a ticket earlier than that, and you will obviously be able to buy SIMs later with a different transaction. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 19-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[Europython-improve] Preliminar API per mobile apps
Hi guys, this is an example of the API we plan to adopt for the mobile apps: http://www.pycon.it/conference/schedule/pycon4/day1.xml The data contained is the actual schedule of PyCon Italia 4 (last year conference), which you can check also here as a reference: http://www.pycon.it/pycon4 As the URL says, that's only day 1. We plan to have a different URL for each day, plus a general index URL. There will obviously be minor adjustments and refinements specific to EuroPython (eg: we need to differentiate hands-on trainings from standard talks), but I hope this is enough to get you started. I will be publishing this URL on the website as well. Oisin, Nick, do you confirm that you intend to work on the Android app? Can I publish this information on the website, so that others can join in to help you? Do we have a volunteer for an iOS app yet? Thanks everybody! -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
On 2/7/2011 1:36 PM, Oisin Mulvihill wrote: If Giovanni is busy, we can define our own API ;) We do already have an API (it was used last year for PyCon Italia), but there are no public pages (that I know of) where you can see it live with data. David (in CC:) is in charge of backend programming. David, can you bring the API page up and share the link? Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] Trainings, conference days and sprints
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 15:35 +, Tim Couper wrote: The last Europython editions the conference days were something like: tutorials ( usualy saturday and sunday ) - main conference - sprints. Attendance numbers during tutorials days were about 1/8 compared to the main conference. Same for sprints. Probably because of those activies being held during weekends or at the end of a long conference run ( wich can be hard ). FWIW we can't be sure that this is necessarily the reason (although it could be!).. it could be because attendees did not want to participate in the tutorials and sprints (rather than the choice of days). Without good data, it's difficult to come to a conclusion. One approach might be to use this conference (and maybe ask the PyCon guys too) to have an appropriately worded questionnaire to find out the reasons why people do/do not choose the tutorials/sprints .. and perhaps also about the preferred duration of the conference. Making big changes to timings at *this* conference unfortunately coincides with the change of location from sunny B'ham to sunnier Florence, so it will be similarly difficult to draw conclusions if both the timings and location are changed :-) I think you can separate the two factors by comparing the numbers of conference tickets. If conference tickets raise by 10% (eg) compared to 2010, and training tickets raise by 30%, it's easier to see that the new formula worked out better than the previous one. If the two deltas stay almost the same, it means that the new formula was almost a wash all in all. There are also further differences that one will have also to modulate; for instance, even if we kept the current structure, people might find further incentives to join trainings thanks to the availability of interesting (to them) tours of the city as part of the parter program, which is planned to begin on Saturday 18th anyway in case people want to come earlier with the family and visit the city before the conference begins. IMO organizing two days of trainings in a 600-people venue for a grand total of 48 delegates (as in EP2010) is not a very good usage of both venue costs and volunteer time. And having trainings in the same schedule of talks is a good incentive to join. Especially if we also sell single entrances to each training, which is something that we are also pondering about. And yes, adding questions to this extent to the feedback form is a good idea anyway. -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 11:40 +0100, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: I can review the website for you. Do you have a preferred format for fixes/notes? We're also going to publish a few more pages today, so thank you very much for the review. I think the preferred format would be direct bugfixing :) We can give you (and every other reviewer) access to the CMS backend (which is django-pages-cms), if you feel like so. If it's too trouble for you, then a text version as suggested by Fabio is fine. Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing list, please?
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:36 +, John Pinner wrote: Hi, On 27 January 2011 13:26, Fabio Pliger fabio.pli...@s3srl.com wrote: 2011/1/27 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote: Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic? (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?) Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-) I agree with that too but some folks follow europython@ and other follow europython-improve. That's why i posted on both... I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one? europython-improve was started specifically for organisers to work on - 'improve' - the conference. That is the one we should use. The plain europython list is for the conference delegates, many of who seem to have a very low tolerance to email. Already today, with a little flurry on the list, three people have unsubscribed. Many unsubscribed last year in the run-up to EP2010, heaven knows how they thought they could keep in touch with what was happening! I personally don't see much value in a *mailing-list* for delegates. In PyCon Italy, we have a mailing-list for organizers and a newsletter (= read-only mailing-list, if you prefer) for delegates/fans/followers, with a very low and clean traffic. By your description above, I propose that we simply turn europython@ into a newsletter so that non-moderators can't post (and we can then link it with the subscribe to newsletter form in the website). -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ EuroPython 2011 - Florence June 19-26 http://ep2011.europython.eu/ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] can we discuss on ONE mailing list, please?
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:36 +, John Pinner wrote: Hi, On 27 January 2011 13:26, Fabio Pliger fabio.pli...@s3srl.com wrote: 2011/1/27 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote: Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic? (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?) Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-) I agree with that too but some folks follow europython@ and other follow europython-improve. That's why i posted on both... I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one? europython-improve was started specifically for organisers to work on - 'improve' - the conference. That is the one we should use. The plain europython list is for the conference delegates, many of who seem to have a very low tolerance to email. Already today, with a little flurry on the list, three people have unsubscribed. Many unsubscribed last year in the run-up to EP2010, heaven knows how they thought they could keep in touch with what was happening! I personally don't see much value in a *mailing-list* for delegates. In PyCon Italy, we have a mailing-list for organizers and a newsletter (= read-only mailing-list, if you prefer) for delegates/fans/followers, with a very low and clean traffic. By your description above, I propose that we simply turn europython@ into a newsletter so that non-moderators can't post (and we can then link it with the subscribe to newsletter form in the website). -- Giovanni Bajo :: ra...@develer.com Develer S.r.l. :: http://www.develer.com My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
[[ Moving to europython-improve@, please subscribe if not already ]] On gio, 2011-01-27 at 17:14 +0100, Fabio Pliger wrote: 2011/1/27 Nick Martin iamntmar...@googlemail.com Hi, I'd quite like to have a bash at making an iPhone app for this. Fabio could you let Oisin and myself know what you have in mind? The starting point should be this: http://ep2011.europython.eu/mobile I'm not directely involved in the mobile apps activities. I'm asking to one the folks that follows this activity to contact you both! Hi, it's great to have an iphone and an android volunteer from day one! :) I'm going to brain-dump what we would expect from such mobile applications. First of all, I think they should be focused for being used *during* the conference, so they should adapt as the time passes (eg: grey out past events, etc.). The main feature should probably be the schedule navigation: * Download store all schedule data for offline usage * Display schedule day by day * Display details of each talk/training * Display speaker bios and infos * Set reminder/alert when a certain talk is about to begin Then we can have lots of additional goodies obviously less important: Twitter integration: * See realtime twitters from @europython or with hashtag #ep2011 * Easy twitting for common tweets such as I'm at talk XXX - #ep2011 Partner program: * Some kind of integration, TBD Evening events/dinner: * Again, some integration, google maps, etc. TBD Feedback form: * Allow filling of feedback forms before leaving EuroPython, and direct online submission. How does this sound? I can give you tomorrow some sample URLs with the API we are thinking of, so that you can start working on it as soon as you want. If you setup a project somewhere (github, bitbucket, google code, etc.) we could publish it immediately on the website, together with your contact infos so that other volunteers can get in touch with you directly to help you out (I'm assuming you will be releasing it as free software, but obviously that's your call). As for the graphic assets, you are obviously free to reuse the graphic design / images / background patterns / logos available on the website (it's all under CC-license), and we can get you in contact with our graphic designer in case you need some customizations. Thanks in advance! -- Giovanni Bajo :: Develer S.r.l. ra...@develer.com :: http://www.develer.com Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D ___ Europython-improve mailing list Europython-improve@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
