Re: [EuroPython] Is EuroPython happening this year?
On May 13, 4:16 pm Michael Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Benedikt Hegner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > for questions and discussions - I propose an irc meeting Monday > > afternoon 17:00. > > Works for me. Me too. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Next irc meeting
On Dec 9, 2004, at 3:06 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:42:12 +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: Laura Creighton wrote: Hi, Thursday is not OK (there is a Christmas dinner). But Friday 17 (17.30 for instance) should be fine - otherwise the week after maybe? I can in any way post a link to a demo site until then. /JM Friday is not going to work for Jacob nor me. But it will be great to see the demo site. Ok, what times are good the week after? Laura -- busy 1400-1600 Monday, but who thinks is flexible all the rest. I'm flexible all week. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Europython 2005?
Hi, http://www.europython.org/ has nothing about the 2005 conference except the dates and the city. I need to decide very soon whether I will attend pycon DC or the europython conference, as I cannot attend both. But without more information about the latter, it is hard to make such a decision. I imagine that others are in a similar bind. Is there any chance that more information about EPC 2005 will be released soon? Thank you! -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Scheduling call for papers and acceptance of talks
On Feb 24, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Heimo Laukkanen wrote: Talk acceptance: - require the actual presentation to be submitted ( we've been very flexible with this previously ) Why is this a requirement? During the Plone Con in Vienna, I noticed lots of people sitting outside. I asked a few what were the reasons. The main one was, they liked to socialize. :^) However, some folks also seemed disappointed with the quality of some presentations. I'm interested in ways to address. One choice is, as we've suggested, ask people to prepare in advance. Benefits: people don't throw something together at the last minute, we attract people that are naturally more prepared, and we have time to interact via a review process. This is pretty well understood, for anyone that has done a refereed paper. Downsides: as Harald noted, we might scare off people that are good presenters, presentation material isn't nearly as important as the speaker (they should be minimal, in fact), and it increases the work on Paul/Heimo. If anybody has some better suggestions on how we can improve the presentation quality, let us know. Equally, if people feel that improving the quality isn't a needed goal, speak up on that too. > This is just to make sure that people don't feel too comfortable on > what they already know and try to scrap up the presentations an hour > before the presentation. This doesn't feel too valid to me. I didn't experience this with any of the presentations given last year, do other people feel that this was a problem? I have 2 issues with it: 1. Often the most appropriate time to write talks is the 8-10 hrs it takes to commute to the conference. We plan to reserve huge chunks of time, perhaps each afternoon after the break, for lightning talks. Personally, I think it is unfair to the 90 people in the audience that paid good money to travel, to suffer through someone that waited 8-10 hours in advance to work on their presentation. In some cases, the speaker can pull it off. In many cases, the presentation could have used some refinement and practice. Thus, give some arguments from the point of view of the 80, not the 1. How can we make this better for the audience? 2. Events often overtake things that are written months before. We work in a particularly dynamic environment, requiring a presentation to be set in stone months before the conference seems like putting an artificial block on how relevent a presentation is... We *have* to choose the presentations in advance. We can't wait until the last moment to choose presentations. Last year, we were asked to move up the deadline so chosen speakers could book tickets at a lower fare. In some cases, the speakers have to get their organizations to book the tickets and that takes a while. Quite obviously, we can't make an informed choice on a presentation with a title and 50 word description, unless we know the person. That becomes unfair to the new people who haven't presented. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Scheduling call for papers and acceptance of talks
I totally agree with you, that presentation material is overrated and should be subservient to the presenter. And yes, this fact is mostly missed by terrified speakers that recite their bulleted lists to the audience. :^) Still, we need *some* kind of metric on which to base talk selection. Your recipe below works when the speaker is good. Not all speakers are good. We could ask people, in their talk proposals, to indicate whether or not they are good speakers, but I don't think that will help. :^) Again, should we try to improve the quality? If there isn't a strong opinion that this needs attention, Heimo and I will drop it. If it is worth looking into, though, how can we achieve it? --Paul On Feb 24, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Harald Armin Massa wrote: Let me second Chris, This is just to make sure that people don't feel too comfortable on what they already know and try to scrap up the presentations an hour before the presentation. This doesn't feel too valid to me. I didn't experience this with any of the presentations given last year, do other people feel that this was a problem? Just to give some date: I did two presentations on Europython 2004. "Quixote. Pythonic. Web" and "Selling Pyhtoneers" "Selling Pyhtoneers" was more than 2 hours; the slides were created on the two evenings before. At least 30% of "Selling Pythoneers" was created on the fly in response to the participants. I remember that physically small and mentally more than great Zope guy, he did a presentation with well prepared slides which he did not really use - his presentation was exceptionally joyfull because he presented with the people and not for the sake of slides. Jesus did not have Powerpoint(TM) at all, and still people are talking about his preaching on the mountains. Mark Shuttleworth had some funny and some impressive slides; the earth from above and him in cosmonautic gear was great - BUT: I am more than sure if he did the same presentation without beamer at a fireplace, the reduction in joy would be no more than .3% I for myself would rather forbid people to use slides than force them to deploy them early. We use a language without static typing; why should we force people to use static presentations? (shameless plug: I offer consulting for presentation techniques, better call it "presentation mindset") Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa - holistic presentation methods -. Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstraße 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] extended abstract for refereed paper at Europython Conference in Sweden
Hello, I realise that I may be a little late but below is extended abstract for a paper for the European Python conference. I could manage to have the full paper in a couple of days. best regards, Paul NolanImplementing Continuous Time Simulation Systems in Python = Professor Paul J. Nolan Department of Mechanical Engineering National University of Ireland, Galway [EMAIL PROTECTED] EXTENDED ABSTRACT = Computer simulation is very well established in studying complex systems. Simulation, often called 'the laboratory of management' allows us to develop a model of a real system (either existing or planned) and to run WHAT-IF experiments on the model to predict what would happen in the real system. The earliest of the so-called SPLs (Simulation Programming Languages) were based on FORTRAN but C based system and subsequently C++ and a plethora of other language based systems evolved. There are a huge number of SPLs - as early as in the 1980's alone well over 100 systems were reported. In many cases there was huge overlap between 'new' systems and existing ones, many were promoted by commercial vendors and, their life cycle of many of these SPLs and packages has ended. Originally all simulation was performed on mainframes and simulation was the preserve of academics or of big corporations. In the past 15 years or so, with the widespread availability of PCs including notebook computers, simulation .. Recent trends in simulation includes hierarchical modelling and object orientation, advanced GUIs including visual model builders, animations and so-called virtual environments. Given the proliferation of simulation systems, one might be forgiven for being less that enthusiastic about the introduction of YASL (Yet Another Simulation Language). We are not proposing a commercial system but rather an open source system which will allow us to perform medium scale simulations easily. There are some very strong arguments for using Python including the fact that it is scripted, relatively easy syntax, allows rapid development, object orientated, available on a wide variety of platforms, easily deployable on the web and open source. The fact that there is a huge fraternity already using Python and the availability of Numerical Python, easy database integration and evolving GUI tools such as wxPython also add to its attraction. A simulation system SimPy has been reported in the European Python conference. The SimPy system is for so-called discrete event simulation used for modelling discrete processes when state changes at discrete times (event times). Another major class of simulation problems involves the study of continuous time systems. Such systems comprising physical devices e.g. electric, electronic, mechanical, hydraulic and pneumatic components. The modelling of there is based the laws of physics and usually involves differential equations and coupled algebraic equations. These equations may in general be nonlinear. This is primarily the focus of our simulation work. In this paper we describe a very small but yet extremely simulation system written in Python. It is object orientated and different system models may be readily incorporated. The simulator uses a simple trapezoidal rule for the numer ical integration of the nonlinear differential equations describing the system. The system is interactive and currently uses a command line interface. It has been used as a teaching aid in the study of computer control of electromechanical systems. As a specific example, the paper shows results for the dynamic simulation of an asynchronous generator being driven by a wind turbine. Future plans on the incorporation of SFG (signal flow graphs), block diagrams and BG (bond graphs) for modelling as well use of a GUI, including model generator and animation system using wxPython is discussed. ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Is the talk database wedged?
I received two reports, one last week and one this weekend, that people can't submit talks for EPC2005. Anybody know anything about this? Also, I'd like to propose an IRC meeting this week for the track chairs and conference organizers. Anybody interested? --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Q: Link to review submitted talks
Hi all. This is a question for the admin of the talk registration db. What is the URL for track chairs to review the submitted proposals and arrange them into a schedule? --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Q: Push back early bird?
Hi all. This says: http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/ registration_informa that early bird ends today, and this: http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/special_accomodation ...implies that tomorrow is the last day for getting the SGS Veckobostäder dorm-style rooms as part of registration. Unfortunately, my guess is that less than 100% of track chairs have published their speaker selections. :^) Thus, people don't know whether to register for the speaker rate or the attendee rate. Until we have confirmation from track chairs, can we extend the early bird a bit, perhaps end-of-this-week? --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Q: Are we having a BBQ on Sunday, June 26?
Hi all. Bea, Aiste, and I had talked about getting together a BBQ Sunday evening. I believe someone was going to as SKS if they had any facilities available for this. Has anyone contacted them? If not, I will do so. If you are interested in a BBQ, send me a private note. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] BBQ on Sunday evening
Thanks to Laura, we have a place for the BBQ. I added the following text: """ We are planning a BBQ Sunday evening at the SGS Veckobostäder. This is an informal affair, with the target time of 7PM. However, people might gather beforehand. If you are interested, please email Aiste Kesminaite (aiste at pov dot it) or Paul Everitt (paul at zope-europe dot org) and tell us what time you plan to arrive. """ ...to the wiki page at: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2005 As we make more plans, we'll update this list and that page. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] BBQ on Sunday evening
On Jun 22, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Gintautas Miliauskas wrote: > Hello, > > >> ... please email Aiste Kesminaite (aiste at pov dot it) >> > > The domain should be pov.lt (Lithuania), not pov.it (Italy). Yikes, that's quite a typo! Thanks for noticing, just fixed the page. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Errors and missing (or hard to find) information on the website
Also I don't think there is an explanation on the sprint location.
I'll try to do it myself before I leave for the airport, but probably
will run out of time.
Note: the sprint is in Matematiska vetenskaper (86). If you are
looking at the map on the Chalmers site, the auditorium is near the
bottom, and the sprint building is below it on the left:
http://www.chalmers.se/GIF/CTH_karta.gif
Thanks to Jean-Marc and Dario for sending me the info.
--Paul
On Jun 22, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm preparing to leave for Goteborg tomorrow morning and I was
> checking some information on the website I wanted to print in advance.
>
> But I didn't find a map of Goteborg (there is a link to a map on
> the city wep site, but the link is dead). Did some webchecking and
> got the errors below.
>
> I wanted also to print the conference schedule (using the plain
> HTML pages) and noticed that the pages don't print well on mozilla
> (you only get the first and last lines). It seems OK in Firefox
> though.
>
> S.
>
> Final Report (544 total, 0 to do, 544 done, 10 bad)
>
> Error Report:
>
> 2 Errors in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> cheap_hotels
> HREF http://www.hotelflora.nu
> msg [Errno socket error] (-3, 'Temporary failure in name
> resolution')
> HREF http://www.liseberg.se/barkenviking/
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
> 2 Errors in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> cheap_hotels/view
> HREF http://www.hotelflora.nu
> msg [Errno socket error] (-3, 'Temporary failure in name
> resolution')
> HREF http://www.liseberg.se/barkenviking/
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
> 2 Errors in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> cheap_hotels/view?pp=1
> HREF http://www.hotelflora.nu
> msg [Errno socket error] (-3, 'Temporary failure in name
> resolution')
> HREF http://www.liseberg.se/barkenviking/
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
> 2 Errors in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> cheap_hotels?pp=1
> HREF http://www.hotelflora.nu
> msg [Errno socket error] (-3, 'Temporary failure in name
> resolution')
> HREF http://www.liseberg.se/barkenviking/
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
> 2 Errors in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> expensive_hotels
> HREF http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> expensive_hotels/accomodation_html (accomodation_html)
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
> HREF http://www.radissson.com
> msg [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known')
>
> Error in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> expensive_hotels/view
> HREF http://www.radissson.com
> msg [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known')
>
> Error in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> expensive_hotels/view?pp=1
> HREF http://www.radissson.com
> msg [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known')
>
> Error in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> expensive_hotels?pp=1
> HREF http://www.radissson.com
> msg [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known')
>
> 2 Errors in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> medium_price_hotels
> HREF http://www.hotelposedon.se
> msg [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known')
> HREF http://www.liseberg.se/hlh/
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
> 2 Errors in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/
> medium_price_hotels/view
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> HREF http://www.liseberg.se/hlh/
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
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> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
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> msg [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known')
> HREF http://www.liseberg.se/hlh/
> msg ('http error', 404, 'Not Found')
>
> Error in http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodati
Re: [EuroPython] Conference photos available?
FWIW, I saw that there's already a tag on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/tags/ep2005/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/tags/europython/ --Paul On Jul 2, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Beatrice Fontaine wrote: > Hello all! > > If everybody learned as much and had as much fun at Europython as I > did > this year, I think we'll be 500 participants next year and CERN will > burst at the seams. > > Has anyone already uploaded pictures anywhere? There were a number of > people running around with cameras. It would be nice to have a best-of > on the conference website. > > See you all in Switzerland > > bea > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "I will, as we say in rock 'n' roll, run until the wheels come off, > because I love what I do." -- David Crosby > > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Europython 2005 aftermath
Hear hear. I don't think many of us realize how incredibly hard Jacob worked, in order that we could show up and have fun. Thanks, Jacob, for the extensive summary this week with the kind words for others. --Paul On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:12 AM, Fasih Rehman wrote: > Hello Jacob, > > Thanks for putting together a wonderful conference this year. I had an > excellent time, got to meet other people from the community as well > yourself and the other folks from Strakt. All the best see you next > year at CERN. > > Fasih > > On 7/6/05, Jacob Hallén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dear Europython attendee, >> >> thank you very much for your help in making Europython 2005 >> a success. The number of really interesting talks was higher >> than ever before, and the arrangements worked about as >> smoothly as can be expected. It was a lot of fun for us to >> have you in Göteborg! >> >> REGISTRATION WEBSITE >> >> The web interface to the registration system has been improved, >> and there >> is a main page for accessing all the functionality. This is >> available at http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/. >> It will later be linked to the Europython website, but due to time >> constraints this may take a while. >> >> If you were a speaker; keynote, regular or lightning; please don't >> forget to upload your materials so that others can access them. If >> you did a lightning talk, you first need to register the talk. When >> that is done, you can upload materials. >> >> If you want to download materials, use the main page mentioned above. >> This is the only way to access the lightning talks. >> >> EUROPYTHON 2006 >> >> Next Europython is planned to happen at CERN, near Geneva in >> Switzerland. The planned dates are Monday 3 July to Wednesday 5 July >> 2006. Sprints are planned for 30 June to 2 July and 6 July to 9 >> July. We will most likely be able to arrange a tour of the facilities >> for active volunteers and the earliest registrants. We will continue >> to send updates to the address that this one is sent to, unless you >> ask us to stop. If you have non-attendee friends who are interested, >> please ask them to subscribe to [email protected], to >> get >> the same information. >> >> VOLUNTEERING >> >> We had a very nice kickoff meeting for planning the next >> conference right >> after the end of EP2005. This is promising, but we still need to find >> more people who are willing to take on a small part of the work load. >> We need new track chairs for several tracks and a bunch of people to >> help out with several aspects of the preparations for the conference. >> More than 90% of the work is before the conference starts. Subscribe >> to the mailing list [email protected] to get involved with the >> arrangments. This is a very low volume mailing list most of the time. >> Even if you are not active in the arrangements you are welcome to >> lurk >> and see what is going on behind the scenes. >> >> REGISTRATION SYSTEM >> >> The web interface to the registration system is my first major web >> application ever. I think it is pretty decent, and most of you seem >> happy with it according to the feedback forms. I plan to improve it >> for next year, and I would like to have feedback on how you think I >> could improve things. I would also like to have some volunteer >> testers >> to test my changes. This would entail spending something like 15-30 >> minutes on trying out things a few times over the next 6 months. >> Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to respond to either of these >> requests. >> >> SPECIAL THANKS >> >> I would like to thanks all our sponsors: >> Wing, gocept, Pragma 2000, Chalmers, Strakt, Aixtraware, Amaze, >> Webwitches, Clocksoft, Reportlab, and the Python Software Foundation >> >> The track chairs get a collective thanks for keeping the tracks >> running >> so smoothly, and to all the speakers, without whom Europython >> would be >> very boring. >> >> Thanks also go to the staff at Chalmers Restaurang, SGS and Elite >> Park Hotel, who have all been very helpful and service minded. The >> Strakt staff who manned the reception did so very professionally. >> >> Personal thanks go to Vincent for T-shirt design, Dario for handling >> Chalmers contacts, Jean-Marc for the website, Bea, Paul, Harald and >> John for their wisdom in the IRC meetings and their moral support, >> John for the feedback for
Re: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
Hi Michael. I'm in for the Zope track. However, I wonder if it would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than just Zope. There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python these days for web frameworks. Lots of people might benefit from cross-pollination. --Paul On Sep 30, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's > probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- > towards EuroPython 2006. > > I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which > means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track > chair :) > > I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with > the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to > help with that. In particular, could someone who can put something > like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site? > > But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and > awake. So: "BOO!" :) > > Cheers, > mwh > > -- > >> Touche! But this confirms you are composed of logic gates. >> > Crud, I thought those were neurons in there. > -- Thomas F. Burdick, Kenny Tilton, comp.lang.lisp > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Pong!
On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Dario Lopez-Kästen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Folks, I think it is time to start making some noise. >> >> May I suggest that we have an IRC meeting soon? >> > > A good idea! > > >> What times suit people best? >> >> We also need to do some marketig - Benedikt, how are the >> announcements >> doing? >> >> I also got very little feedback on the minutes I sent to the list. I >> don't know if that is good or bad. >> >> I myself, would generally prefer around 19.00 CET for meetings, and I >> generally can't on tuesdays, wednesdays and fridays. >> > > Coincidentally, I'm fairly likely to be free on Mondays and Thursdays > too... > > >> If not, I coudl schedule meetings during the day, but then the >> meetings >> would have to be very efficient (which is doable) and not last >> more than >> one hour. And probably no more than once every second week :) >> > > Well, I'm not sure that < 1 hour, only every fortnight are bad things > at this stage :) Me too. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff
That date is fine for me. Please, though, send reminders a few days in advance. :^) --Paul On Dec 14, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC meeting on > #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's > conference. The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of > January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get > moved a bit. Comments? > > I also set up a place holder page on the python.org wiki: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006 > > with the idea being that this will be the central place to go for > EP2006 organizational information (even if the actual information is > somewhere else, I hoped it's at least linked to from there). > > Cheers, > mwh > > -- > The snakes are optional, as are the electrodes, the molten lead > and the ritual buggering by syphilitic warthogs. > -- Tanuki the Raccoon-dog, asr > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff
On Dec 15, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Aiste Kesminaite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC >>> meeting on >>> #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's >>> conference. >> >> +1 >> >>> The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of >>> January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get >>> moved a bit. Comments? >> >> It would be more convenient for me to have it an hour earlier, >> i.e. 1700 >> GMT+1. > > Makes little difference to me. Paul? Benedikt? Holger? Anyone > else? No problem for me. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Site europython 2006
Just to emphasize this point, history has shown that only a small number of people, namely the conference organizers, spend any non- negligible time working on *content* for the site. As such, this organizer's group should be free to make any technology choice they want. The idea that "if we had a better tool, people would write more" has proven itself to be wishful thinking. People simply haven't been motivated to write content, IMO, and use the website technology as an excuse for lack of contribution. (I'm as much to blame on this as anybody.) --Paul On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote: > Just for historical concerns... > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 06:42:52PM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: >>> jan 09 17:43:10 dlk we switched from Plone to CPS because no-one >>> was happy with plone. > > or rather, people willing to do the work did not know plone and did > not want to learn. > >>> jan 09 17:43:32 dlk and b fore that we swithced from something >>> else to plone because none was happy with what was avialble then. > > before that it was Zope and people willing to do the work thought it > would be easier with plone. > > -- > Nicolas Chauvat > > logilab.fr - services en informatique avancée et gestion de > connaissances > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] preparations at CERN
On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Aiste Kesminaite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> Tracks and talks: >>> - Should we have a poster session? >> >> I have no strong opinion about that but would lean to the lightning >> talks fulfilling this need. >> >> One more thing related to tracks and talks -- there was a discussion >> about changing track chairing format -- i.e. there was a >> suggestion to >> not have one person who chairs the whole track during the >> conference but >> rather have several people do it so no one would have to spend the >> whole >> conference or most of it just in one track. >> >> Taking care of choosing talks for a particular track prior to the >> conference would still be done by one or a few people responsible for >> that track. >> >> What do people think about this change? > > It makes sense to me. +1 from me also. Track chair does preparation beforehand, track hosts manage presentations the day of the conference. > In other news, I'd like to have an IRC meeting for people considering > being track chairs (in the before-the-conference sense) sometime in > the next couple of weeks. As a strawman, I'd like to propose this > Friday (the 13th) at 1500 GMT (so 1600 for those on the continent). I'll be traveling that day, FWIW. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] local organizers update
On Jan 23, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Benedikt Hegner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> My conservative idea for the fees (new/old): >> 50/70 Euro for Speakers (yes. cheaper than our costs per person. >> Otherwise it would be more expensive than last year if you think of >> the lunch.) > > We had absolutely loads of speakers last year, which is fun in some > ways but hurt the bottom line. I think we should feel free to charge > them more (PyCon charges speakers full price, and doesn't seem short > of talks. I'm not sure we should go that far). I agree with your point. Equally, we have some people that put in talk submissions not because they plan to do a good job on their talk, but rather they just want a lower fee. Negative incentive. :^) --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] #europython minutes 23rd January 2006
On Jan 23, 2006, at 6:19 PM, holger krekel wrote: > * Discussion about "Zope" track > > Paul suggests to go for a "Web Frameworks Track" instead > of limiting it to Zope. He thinks that this should > help to get more cross-pollination going within the > python web framework communities. There would likely > be a quota on Zope talks then. The ideas were welcomed > by the attendees and will likely be followed up > on the mailing list and on the upcoming track chair > meeting. To add some more background on this point, Zope would like to be less of an island in the Python community. I think Zope has much to offer, especially in Zope 3, where interesting parts can be used in isolation. I also think Zope has lots to gain from Python and other Python web frameworks. There's tons of exciting stuff going on in the Python web frameworks space. Finally, I think Python itself is facing strong competition in Python web frameworks. We (the Python web frameworks) should recognize this and work together more to tell a better story. Having a Zope mini-event inside the EuroPython main event has worked well for a number years. I think times have changed, though, and we should all hang out together and listen to what the others have to offer. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] #europython minutes 23rd January 2006
Oops... On Jan 23, 2006, at 6:44 PM, Paul Everitt wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2006, at 6:19 PM, holger krekel wrote: > >> * Discussion about "Zope" track >> >> Paul suggests to go for a "Web Frameworks Track" instead >> of limiting it to Zope. He thinks that this should >> help to get more cross-pollination going within the >> python web framework communities. There would likely >> be a quota on Zope talks then. The ideas were welcomed >> by the attendees and will likely be followed up >> on the mailing list and on the upcoming track chair >> meeting. > > To add some more background on this point, Zope would like to be less > of an island in the Python community. I think Zope has much to > offer, especially in Zope 3, where interesting parts can be used in > isolation. I also think Zope has lots to gain from Python and other > Python web frameworks. There's tons of exciting stuff going on in > the Python web frameworks space. > > Finally, I think Python itself is facing strong competition in Python Omit the second "Python". --Paul > web frameworks. We (the Python web frameworks) should recognize this > and work together more to tell a better story. > > Having a Zope mini-event inside the EuroPython main event has worked > well for a number years. I think times have changed, though, and we > should all hang out together and listen to what the others have to > offer. > > --Paul > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] track chair meeting today #europython 1700 central european time
On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > (2) How seriously do we want to run tutorials? Charging extra, doing > them on a separate day and splitting the costs with the giver of > the tutorial or just a couple of long-ish talks on the first > morning? If we want to take them seriously, we could do with > finding some energetic person to take care of them. I totally agree. The gap between "I think that's a must-do idea!" and "I volunteer to make it happen" is rather large. :^) IMO, 50% of the tutorial givers approach is as a much-longer presentation. It takes some good oversight to make sure the audience gets its money worth. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] irc meeting this afternoon
I will be on travel at that time, unfortunately. --Paul On Feb 7, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > Yes, next week same time would be okay. > Will there be minutes of the yesterday's meeting? > > Cheers > Benedikt > > On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > >> Benedikt Hegner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> unfortunalety I am in another meeting at CERN at the moment. So I >>> can't attend the europython meeting today. I will give you an update >>> during the next meeting. >> >> If the next meeting was in a week's time at 1700 would you be able to >> make that? >> >> Cheers, >> mwh >> >> -- >>> You're already using asyncore so you can't really be worried >>> about complexity . >> (-8 .helps which, demand on backwards work to brain my rewired I've >> -- Jeremy Hylton & Richie >> Hindle > > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Honesty in Advertising
Hello, I saw just now that the issue of proprietary vs. open source development (and whether the things being presented are available for public or even source-level perusal or not) had come up with respect to at least one of the talks at PyCon [1], and after various similar comments about at least one EuroPython talk last year, I was wondering if there should be some kind of stipulation that EuroPython talks should advertise the nature of the solutions being presented. Various people noted, after one of the EuroPython talks, that to sit through 30 minutes of what ultimately proved to be advertising virtually amounted to dishonesty on the part of the presenter. If getting involved in some interesting technology is a priority for attendees (and this is a community conference after all) then some more openness about such things is necessary, in my opinion. Another thing that came to mind was the availability of papers and presentations: given that the conferences are a good way of presenting the state of the community, should more be done to insist that presenters make their materials available to those not attending the conference, and should the availability of materials be more widely promoted? There have been several occasions where I've referred people to EuroPython talks, mostly because those people have been promoting some in-progress solution similar to something more complete that was previously presented at EuroPython. Has anyone any thoughts about improving such matters in advance of this year's conference? Paul [1] http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyCon2006/Feedback ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] indico private?
On Monday 20 March 2006 19:44, Michael Hudson wrote: > > http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceProgram.py?confId=44 > > which currently can't be viewed without a password. I don't think it can even be viewed by most people with an Indico account: it's still marked as private for normal users like myself. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Minor Web site corrections/suggestions
Hello all, The EuroPython Web site is really coming along now, but here are some minor, nagging-level corrections for some of the information on there: The spelling of "accomodation" should be fixed to be "accommodation"; this affects a few pages, I guess. On the location page [1], we might want to mention some of that information Chris Withers was asking about: * The Swiss currency is the Swiss Franc (CHF). I don't know how much roaming people are going to do before/during/after the conference, but it's useful (or perhaps comforting) to know (for those that didn't already know) that France and Italy both have the Euro (EUR). * Credit cards are usable in Switzerland (or they were when I had to use them there), and they have various other payment systems in use, too, although I imagine that some of them (eg. CASH, not actual cash!) are only of interest to payment fanatics and the banks. ;-) * Switzerland is regarded as quite expensive: a quick search for the often- popularised cost-of-living surveys revealed that Geneva is in the top ten in most cases. (Here in Norway, there was a lot of press about Oslo being #1, but the property markets often distort such surveys, and whilst Oslo sits below London in some tables [2], it did acquire the title of "the most expensive of the 71 cities surveyed" without rents included, although I hardly think I can derive any satisfaction from that.) Anyway, if you're aware of London, Paris, Oslo, Copenhagen, Dublin, Stockholm, Helsinki or Reykjavik economics, Geneva might not be a big shock. (See also [3].) On the breakfast, lunch and dinner page [4], it says that the restaurant is open until "01:00pm" - this should, of course, be until 1:00am or 0100. Cue happy memories of late night bulk beer buying as a summer student. ;-) The proposed sprints page should probably redirect to (or make way for) the actual sprints page on the Wiki. I seem to remember it occasionally redirecting for information relevant to last years conference. Anyway, if this is the wrong place to send all this information, please let me know. Having taken a break from the python.org toolchain for a while, I'd be happy to sanity-check stuff for EuroPython. (And we should definitely retain the upper case E and P for consistency with prior practice, yes.) Paul [1] http://www.europython.org/sections/location [2] http://www.citymayors.com/economics/expensive_cities2.html [3] http://www.citymayors.com/economics/expensive_cities_eiu.html [4] http://www.europython.org/sections/events/breakfast [5] http://www.europython.org/sections/sprints_and_wiki/proposed_sprints ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Authorisation - The access to this event has been restricted by its owner ...
On Friday 31 March 2006 15:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > > > I wonder why I always get the above message when clicking on any of > > the proposal links on the web-site. I've registered, > > but still can't get access to the proposal pages. Am I missing > > something or are all these pages private ? > > The web-site says: "submission opens March 15". [...] > The above problem still persists, BTW. I've registered an Indico account, but everything was still "restricted" last time I checked the EuroPython pages. I think Michael Hudson was prepared to make it all public (although accessible to registered users would be at least somewhat better than the current situation), but perhaps someone persuaded him otherwise at the last minute. As for the submissions opening date, I'd imagine that the date is unofficial given that no non-IRC announcement has been made, as far as I can see. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Progress?
On Monday 03 April 2006 22:46, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: > > > > Can anyone with local knowledge make any recommendations? > > Same request from here :-) I don't have any recent local knowledge, but... > If you could tell us the exact address of the place where > the conference will be held, I suppose that the various mapping > sites would be of great help in finding the right hotel. >From the EuroPython site's travel section: http://public.web.cern.ch/public/Content/Chapters/VisitCERN/GetToCERN/GetToCERN-en.html The main entrance to CERN (Meyrin site) is located right by the French border on the north-west side of Geneva. The nearby districts aren't particularly exciting, but I imagine that there are decent/mainstream/expensive hotels near the airport, and there are several hotels in the centre of town. CERN's own accommodation isn't bad, though, for those undecided about whether a hotel is required. > Unfortunately, the CERN site seems to be missing this one > bit of vital information (they only mention a snail > mail address in form of a PO box :-). CERN's a big place, so I don't think it has (or needs) a street address. Here's the contact page, reachable from CERN's home page: http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Content/ServiceLinks/Contact/Contact-en.html > I tried this on map24.de but to no avail - CERN's not registered > as POI :-( POI? > BTW, I found this URL on the CERN site which might be helpful: > > http://building.web.cern.ch/building/ > > It appears as if the conference is going to be held at > the "Meyrin" site. I imagine so, and Benedikt's previous information gives that impression, too. Certainly, I don't think the other major site (Prevessin) has much in the way of conference facilities. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Progress?
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 12:23, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > Thanks. I found a similar link yesterday using Map24: > > http://link2.map24.com/?street0=Route%20Niels%20Bohr&zip0=1217&city0=Meyrin >&state0=&country0=ch&name0=&lid=3d5d7d90&ol=de-de Crazy but unusable Java-based fly-by! :-) > (also points to the Niels Bohr route) > > It appears as if CERN is close to the airport, but requires a bus > drive to the center of the city. CERN isn't far from the airport by car or taxi, but it isn't reasonable walking distance, and you need to change buses to get to CERN: bus 10, then bus 9: http://www.tpg.ch/Cartographie/Schemas_lignes/decembre2005/l10.html http://www.tpg.ch/Cartographie/Schemas_lignes/decembre2005/l9.html The route overview in English: http://www.tpg.ch/Internet+TPG/Anglais/Maps/defaut.htm (It also looks like bus 28 runs from the airport to Meyrin - Hôpital-La Tour, and that's more or less walking distance. Interestingly, the route planner at http://tpg.hafas.de/bin/tp/query.exe/en suggests combining bus 28 with bus Y. I always used to take the 10/9 combination, myself.) As for the exact location of the conference, Benedikt pointed out the building locations previously, and if you visit the building search page (http://building.web.cern.ch/building/) and search for building 40, you'll see the conference location, the hostels (buildings 38 and 39) and the restaurant (restaurant 1, building 500/501). The reception, also listed on that page, is building 33. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Registration and other issues
On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: > > > Michael Hudson wrote: >> I think it would be a good idea. Next Tuesday or next Thursday are >> good for me. How about others? > > Tuesday is fine, Thursday afternoon I'm not available. Same for me. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Is EuroPython happening this year?
On Friday 12 May 2006 10:40, Michael Hudson wrote: > > I think the website needs some editorial love. Are you familiar with > Zope/CPS? Like Dave, I'd be willing to volunteer for various activities, although it really depends what you need doing as to whether I would be of any help. ;-) Sadly, CPS isn't something I've used before, but it can't be hard to edit pages, right? > The impression I get is that the most useful thing right now would be > a kick to the backside of various management types at CERN, but > there's not much we can do about that :/ I'm not sure about the "right now" part: some people might assert that it's the most useful thing to do "at any given point in time". :-) Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Is EuroPython happening this year?
On Saturday 13 May 2006 16:13, Michael Hudson wrote: > Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > By "organisers" here I mean the people who stood up and said "we > > would like to host/run Europython", not the people pushing you to do > > it. I've simply had no time recently to push for asking for talks, > > and quite frankly at the moment I have NO confidence that the > > current organisers can deliver what they offered. > > We'll get there in the end, we always do... I think that while it's tempting to point the finger, things like EuroPython along with all its "assets" (Web site, materials from previous occasions, procedures, and so on) should be considered as ongoing, year-round activities. Imagine if the IOC left their Web site up with patchy information about the last Olympic games. Concepts like "current organisers" are misleading: there should always be more to the organisation of the event than just the people managing the stuff on the ground. And to bring up the IOC metaphor again, you don't generally have the previous hosts 'phoning up the next hosts saying, "We've got the torch here - when are you coming to collect it?" > > Also, I remember you, Benedikt, boasting loudly that you would want > > proposals in 6 months before the conference, and the same going for > > registration. I had high hopes that CERN could do this, given your > > long history. > > I'm a bit gutted at how this has turned out too. But I think such a > strong attack is unjustified and unhelpful. Really, there should be nothing stopping the EuroPython organisation accepting talks for next year's conference right now. Sure, you won't have many people submitting talks now because it's way over everyone's horizon, but these issues don't change significantly on the basis of where the conference is held. > > On the off chance I've missed something: is it now possible to register > > and pay for registration? After all, I note I've only got 7 days to get > > early bird registration now cf: > >http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2006-January/00.html > > Well, the other dates on that mail have slipped past as well. Where we've fallen shortest may be in the promotion and the continuous reminding of people that the conference is happening: things one would normally brush aside as "hype" in popular culture. If people reading this list are in any doubt about the conference, it should be wondered what everyone else is thinking. > > On a more serious note, can we find an alternate venue quickly ? I > > have zero confidence that this is happening. > > If you think finding another venue in this timescale is even vaguely > realistic, I'd like some of what you're smoking. Having the conference in Amsterdam would satisfy both needs here, I think. ;-) Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Is EuroPython happening this year?
On Saturday 13 May 2006 18:00, Michael Hudson wrote: > Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I think that while it's tempting to point the finger, things like > > EuroPython along with all its "assets" (Web site, materials from > > previous occasions, procedures, and so on) should be considered as > > ongoing, year-round activities. > > In this vein it would be nice to not throw out the website this year, > for a change. I'm reasonably happy with indico, though I'm not sure > we want to host it at CERN again. More look and feel integration with > ep.org would be nice. I guess so. That said, I haven't looked at Indico very much, although I did download the code. > Also, I feel pretty confident that I'm am not going to be in the mood > to have anything to do with EuroPython organization for a good couple > of months after this year's event. Are you volunteering? :) It's surely a matter of keeping things up-to-date and making sure things don't decay. If I still have the same amount of "free time" after the conference, I'll gladly keep myself involved. The issue with volunteering is often making people feel able to volunteer and to contribute. We should learn from PyCon, too. For example, it seems like obtaining recordings has been very difficult, and this seems to be an area Benedikt has been sorting out in advance. Getting permission from speakers and making the recordings available should be something that EuroPython gets right. > > Imagine if the IOC left their Web site up with patchy information > > about the last Olympic games. Concepts like "current organisers" are > > misleading: there should always be more to the organisation of the > > event than just the people managing the stuff on the ground. And to > > bring up the IOC metaphor again, you don't generally have the > > previous hosts 'phoning up the next hosts saying, "We've got the > > torch here - when are you coming to collect it?" > > That's hardly an accurate analogy to what has happened this year... I exaggerate to make a point, of course, and I having read and heard all about conference organisation, I don't underestimate the hassles involved. But my point was that it can be easier to sustain an existing process than to shut it down, only to have to start it up again later. > > Really, there should be nothing stopping the EuroPython organisation > > accepting talks for next year's conference right now. Sure, you > > won't have many people submitting talks now because it's way over > > everyone's horizon, but these issues don't change significantly on > > the basis of where the conference is held. > > I think they do, a bit. But yeah (also see comments about not > trashing the website). The processes have variables, but the fundamentals appear to be the same: an observation that presumably led to the creation of the Indico software. > > Where we've fallen shortest may be in the promotion and the continuous > > reminding of people that the conference is happening: things one would > > normally brush aside as "hype" in popular culture. > > Well, this isn't rocket science, and also isn't entirely the fault of > 'the organizers'. I've tried myself, a bit. One problem is that "traversing" the various milestones - talk submission opening, registration opening, early-bird registration closing, talk schedule announced, registration closing, and so on - gives good excuses to promote the conference. We've not really been able to stick to the schedule, as far as I can tell. Indeed, we don't seem to have clear schedule/deadline information published prominently - something I'm about to rectify on the ep.org site. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] help needed!
On Sunday 14 May 2006 09:29, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > > there was a lot of traffic on the list the last days about status and > if the preparations are going well. Great! Sorry to hear that you haven't been well, though. I hope EuroPython's burden of stress isn't responsible. [...] > For ep.org I have two points below which should be put there. David > and Paul - do you can take care of this? I'll add the details to ep.org right now. Meanwhile, I was wondering about things like deadlines: the May 31st talk deadline, along with other abstract-related deadlines seem to be set in stone, but I wonder about the various registration deadlines - have these changed from whatever was agreed before? Prominent deadline information helps people to understand/prepare for the conference, I think. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] help needed!
On Sunday 14 May 2006 15:06, Paul Boddie wrote: > > I'll add the details to ep.org right now. Right. I've added fee information to the registration page, and I managed to track down where the sponsorship information was hiding, replacing it with the proposed text. What was interesting was that last year, I'm sure similar sponsorship terms were in play, but I don't really remember things like 15 minute pre-keynote talks - I guess no-one forces anyone to give such talks. On the subject of deadlines, I happened to find something like what I had in mind: http://us.pycon.org/TX2007/EventCalendar Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] help needed!
On May 14, 2006, at 9:29 AM, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > I think Paul Everitt mentioned that he can take care of the PR. Paul I had previously volunteered to help Holger. I can help someone else, but I'm not planning to manage PR. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] help needed!
I will get together with Godefroid to spam the Zope, Plone, and other Python web framework communities. --Paul On May 14, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > 2006/5/14, Paul Everitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I can help someone else, but I'm not planning to manage PR. > > The same goes for me. What is expected in term of PR ? > > Some ideas of possible todos: > > 1/ writing of articles / info about the next EP conference ? the > previous EP conferences ? > 2/ communication to python / zope related mailing lists and sites ? > 3/ communication to Geneva and other local newspapers / TVs / radio > stations ? > (by the way, could the PR department of CERN help or not ? If not, > could it only help us by providing such lists and contact informations > ? And could we have its coordonates : name of people working there, > telephone, email addresses ) > 4/ invitation of local authorities ? (by the way, have any official of > CERN been officially invited, maybe to do some introduction or closing > speech). If yes, who ? If not, who could/should we invite ? > 5/ contact with local LUGs (Linux users groups) who could help ? (as > any such contact been already taken ? GULL in Geneva at > www.linux-gull.ch/portail.html > > By the way, I don't know if the information is known on this list, but > the Canton de Genève has been released fo Windows / GNU/linux and > Macs, is available freely on the web from > http://etat.geneve.ch/getax/04/art.jsp?id=6512 and has been sent to > all taxpayers aroud Geneva on a cdrom that also contained Mozilla > *and* OpenOffice. This was a very active action made by a public > authority favouring free software. They just considered that there was > some free space on the cdrom and decided to add free software ... but > no propriatary software ! > > I (npettiaux) volunteer for 5 and some other actions together with > other people ... provided we can work that subject together on the > wiki ... where I actually started : see > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2006PR > > Regards, > > Nicolas > -- > Nicolas Pettiaux - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] proposals for the webpage
On Monday 15 May 2006 13:02, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > > I had a look at the website. It is a little bit confusing. > I have the following idea for Tracks&Talks to make it a little bit > more structered: > > Is it possible to reduce this part by one Level? The information on > "Call for Proposals" could be put directly on Tracks&Talks or the > link renamed . "Call for Abstracts" should be deleted completely. I tried to make a bit more sense out of this page during the weekend, but Dave mentioned that the call for abstracts did seem to take the user on a tour of many different pages, and I personally don't like the terms "proposal" and "abstract": you're either submitting a paper or a talk, although it's a bit late for the former, now. > What about a more direct link to the programme once it is fixed. If you follow the "conference timetable" you get to see the talk slots, but perhaps "conference programme" confuses this. > One click and you are there. At the moment you have to follow too many > links. :-( > And maybe a link like "Propose a talk" should be on top of the > Tracks&Talks page. > > Any comments and ideas? I propose... * Removing the "Call for Abstracts" link (and section?). * Adding some text about proposing talks at the top of the page, linking to the "Call for Proposals" section but not necessarily using that label: "Propose a talk" is better. When talk submission is closed, we can change this section to mention this. * Changing the "conference programme" link to refer to "tracks" or "topics". Since the track descriptions are on the proposals/ talks page, we could link to that instead of the Indico version. * Changing the last part to be about the conference timetable, noting that this isn't finalised yet. It would be nice to have the date for the selection of talks in that list of deadlines, too. Paul P.S. If no-one has any objections, I'll make the above changes in a short while - I have some other errands to run first. :-) P.P.S. If there's a way of pushing out published changes to the site via RSS, that would be interesting to know about. And when registration opens, we really want a comp.lang.python.announce message to be sent out, too. ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] proposals for the webpage
On Monday 15 May 2006 14:51, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: > > or more simply, the "site updates" box now shows all site changes. > this feed should do: > http://www.europython.org/.cps_portlets/portlet_950133473?export=rss_2_0 Yes, this seems to show the edits. I've now "unpublished" the call for abstracts and have updated the "Tracks & talks" page to make a bit more sense. Comments and suggestions are welcome! (I'm almost getting the hang of this CPS stuff...) Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] proposals for the webpage
On Monday 15 May 2006 16:44, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > > looks much better now! :-) > Is it possible to get rid of the two items "call for proposals" and > "refereed paper track" at the bottom of the page? I think I can do something with the sitemap navigation there. Expert advice may be required, however. ;-) Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] minutes from meeting 2005-05-15 1700 CEST
On Monday 15 May 2006 18:55, Harald Armin Massa wrote:
> 4th June (talk schedule released),
>15th June ("registration will close"),
> 26th June (registration closes)?
> It'd be good to have the "timetable of hype" so that people can gear up for
> the event.
I think we eventually went for...
4th June, 18th June, 26th June
Note that the 15th/18th is just the date for announcing the closure of
registration, not the actual end of registration.
Thanks for the summary, Harald!
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[EuroPython] Web site additions
Hello,
The more inquisitive among you will have noticed that, thanks to the technical
wizardry of Jean-Marc Orliaguet, we now have a "calendar" tab on the
EuroPython front page, inspired by the PyCon "event calendar" but without the
same friendly greeting ("The days in the following table are wrong; we need
to update them.") Since this challenged the space occupied by the
"accommodation" tab, that particular label has been changed to "places to
stay".
In the "tracks and talks" section, I've removed the announcement pages,
placing them in a new section ("announcements"), and then hiding that section
in order to remove those links at the bottom of the "tracks and talks" page.
Sorry if there was an easier way, but I did check to see if anyone known to
Google was deep-linking to those pages: my sensors detect that no-one was.
Comments are welcome, as always, and special attention should be paid to the
dates listed in the calendar as this was the focus of much of the IRC
discussion.
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Re: [EuroPython] keynote speakers on ep.org
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 11:21, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Kay > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_van_rossum > > > > are even more helpfull, too? I'll add the text Michael proposed for Alan Kay, and will try and track down decent photos. > I have another idea about the site. Why is the "Sprints & Wiki page" > not just called "Sprints"? It is only about sprints and the sprint > wiki. So where is the attendee wiki part in the links on http:// > www.europython.org/sections/sprints_and_wiki ? > And here again (like in Tracks&Talks) the structure could be changed. > "Sprint times and loc" + "propose a sprint" on one page with a > structure like: > - What is a sprint > - Propose a sprint > - Get information about planned sprints > (even if point 1 and 2 would link to the same page) I've simplified this, even finding out how to hide the original "propose a sprint" and "sprint times" pages, although it may be useful to delete those in order to remove them from the menu. In addition, I've put attendee Wiki information on the registration page, because I imagine that once people register they might be inclined to look at the Wiki a bit more, possibly announcing their attendance or adding some questions. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] keynote speakers on ep.org
On the subject of keynotes, which one will happen first? Guido or Alan? Or is this to be discussed further. I intend to replicate the form of the PyCon keynotes page... http://us.pycon.org/zope/original/pycon/pastevents/dc2005/talks/keynote ...but with the more detailed biography text that Michael provided. Paul P.S. I also noticed that the sponsorship information (seemingly dating back to 2004) mentions the opportunity for sponsors to have pre-keynote presentations. Is this still feasible? ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] keynote speakers on ep.org
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 14:43, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: > Dario Lopez-Kästen said the following on 05/16/2006 01:47 PM: > > Only Gold sponsors get a 15 minute talk before one of the keynotes, > > effectively limiting us to a maximum of 2 Gold Sponsors. > > FYI: > I am preparing a sliglty corrected version of the sponsorship page, > where I have remved this 15-mintue talk thing. I swear I saw an edited version of the page with various other adjustments, too, such as the removal of the "organising sponsor" option. I can't find any sign of this now in the update history. Have I gone mad?! Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Sponsorship contact address (was Re: keynote speakers on ep.org)
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:28, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: > > The thing is that the original document was created in your personal > home folder and the published version was edited afterwards directly > without being republished. So we did a copy of it and put it back in the > shared workspaces. I don't know how far Dario got with the newer version. Well, I hope I haven't messed things up for Dario. :-/ > The 'edit' option in published sections is a user interface bug that > only managers can trigger. I ought to be removed since it only causes > documents to get out of sync. I guess you have to locate the original document and go through the publishing workflow, or something like that. Anyway, I've changed the e-mail addresses on the sponsorship page to refer to a private list set up for the purposes of fielding sponsorship enquiries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My apologies if I've inadvertently reverted some changes in the process of doing this. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Sponsorship contact address (was Re: keynote speakers on ep.org)
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 20:31, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: > > yes, this is what we did but the version in the workspace was older than > the one that was published. that's why. Well, when Dario is happy with the revised document, he can probably submit it, I guess. I changed the e-mails on the version in the workspace, too. > anyway we put all the published documents under workspaces/EP2006 to > make it easier to find them. Probably a good idea. If I understand you, anything that's published should be edited there and then re-submitted. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Mechanisms for organizing the tracks
Hi all. Godefroid and I are making progress on organizing the web frameworks track. Some questions: 1) The Indico system shows the timetable: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=44 a. Is this authoritative? b. Does the web frameworks track one of the three parallel sessions for all 3 days, or does it share time with others? (Basically we're trying to figure out how many slots to fill.) c. Does it matter how we break up each 1.5 hour slot? 2) Next, for actually assigning talks to dates and times (as people already want to know what day they will get): a. Does Indico have a facility for managing this? b. If not, and Godefroid and I produce our own talk->slot results, how/where do we publish that? My apologies if this has been covered before! --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Mechanisms for organizing the tracks
Thanks for the fast answers! We'll stick to the 30-30-30 or 60-30 slots as you've described. --Paul On May 18, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Paul Everitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Hi all. Godefroid and I are making progress on organizing the web >> frameworks track. Some questions: >> >> 1) The Indico system shows the timetable: >> >>http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=44 >> >> a. Is this authoritative? > > No. > >> b. Does the web frameworks track one of the three parallel sessions >> for all 3 days, or does it share time with others? (Basically we're >> trying to figure out how many slots to fill.) > > This is usually the result of a ding-dong between the various track > chairs after the submission deadline... hoy many slots can you fill? > :) > >> c. Does it matter how we break up each 1.5 hour slot? > > Well, we usually aim for 30-30-30 splits or 60-30 splits and not 45-45 > splits > >> 2) Next, for actually assigning talks to dates and times (as people >> already want to know what day they will get): >> >> a. Does Indico have a facility for managing this? > > Yes, but I don't know if you have to be a manager to see/use it. > >> b. If not, and Godefroid and I produce our own talk->slot results, >> how/where do we publish that? > > Email to me? > >> My apologies if this has been covered before! > > No, we need to start sorting this out! > > Cheers, > mwh > > -- > BUGS Never use this function. This function modifies its first > argument. The identity of the delimiting character is > lost. This function cannot be used on constant strings. > -- the glibc manpage for strtok(3) > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Pre-conference sprints and accommodation requests
On Friday 19 May 2006 17:02, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > > In order to book a room in the CERN hotel, I have last week sent > request for info and prices at the recommended email address at CERN > but I have so far received no answer and I am a little worried. This is the site for the CERN Housing Service (as you probably know): http://housing-service.web.cern.ch/housing-service/ The mail address for the reception ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) should put you in contact with them. I was planning on just trying to extend my stay by a day once I got there, since the range of dates listed on the form doesn't cover my departure, but obviously an early arrival demands some action in advance. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] May not be able to attend todays meeting...
I believe you're correct. Also, I will be traveling at that time so I won't make it. --Paul On May 22, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Andreas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi Dario and all, > > hmm ... my calender claims this weeks meeting will be _tomorrow_ > (Tue, May 23) at 1700 (CEST) ... did I miss something ? > > cheers, andreas > > On May 22, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: > >> hi, >> >> it is very likely that i will not be able to atend today's >> meeting; my >> normal means of transportation is at home with a non-functioning >> brake, >> so I am forced to take the bus, which means that I will 100% not be >> able >> to make it home in time for the meeting. >> >> I will still move forward with the sponsorship tasks, we have one >> sponsor that I will invoice today and another that has expressed >> interest in exhibiting. >> >> I will send out letters today and tomorrow to the companies that we >> have >> had contact with previously, and will report back to the list. >> >> The sponsorship page needs minor updating, that I will try to finish >> during the day today. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> /dario >> >> -- >> -- >> --- >> Dario Lopez-Kästen, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of >> Tech. >> Lyrics applied to programming & application design: >> "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. >> marley >> >> ___ >> EuroPython mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] To all Track Chairs
I'm not sure we can really accept talks at this point: 1) There are still more days left before the deadline. 2) We don't yet know how many slots to fill. --Paul On May 22, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > A humble requerst to all track chairs, > > to have a look at their "manage my track" within indico; to reject > spams and delete them, and also to accept talks they really want. > > I think it would be fair towards the speakers; and helpfull to > acquiring more participants (as of today are 55) > > without even our press relase written (*wink*) or distributed ... > > Harald > > -- > GHUM Harald Massa > persuadere et programmare > Harald Armin Massa > Reinsburgstraße 202b > 70197 Stuttgart > 0173/9409607 > - > PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold > ___ > EuroPython mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Paying for the conference
On Monday 22 May 2006 15:14, John Wilson wrote: > > I registered for the conference and booked accommodation in the > hostel. However i wasn't asked for credit card details:) > > How am I going to pay? My experience in the distant past involved paying afterwards at the hostel reception in cash. In other words, a quick trip to the ATM at the on-site bank and a handover of notes was performed. They may have entered the 21st century with support for credit card payments, but you'd have to check this out with them. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Paying for the conference
On Monday 22 May 2006 17:44, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: > > On Monday 22 May 2006 15:14, John Wilson wrote: > >> I registered for the conference and booked accommodation in the > >> hostel. However i wasn't asked for credit card details:) > >> > >> How am I going to pay? > > I think the reason is the following -- you only registered for the > conference and noted what kind of accommodation you would like. You > should send an email to the CERN hostel in order to book accommodation > and provide credit card details and so on directly to them. My impression was that if you selected the CERN Hostel in the registration form, the registration would be forwarded on - otherwise, what's the idea with the indicator of how many places are left? If I'm wrong, then I guess I'll be chasing up my own reservations, but in any case this would explain why the hostel staff aren't replying to mails: they've been deluged with people trying to make a booking via e-mail, possibly when those people don't actually need to do so. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Booking rooms - important! (was Re: Paying for the conference)
On Monday 22 May 2006 18:34, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: > > My impression was that if you selected the CERN Hostel in the > > registration form, the registration would be forwarded on - otherwise, > > what's the idea with the indicator of how many places are left? If I'm > > wrong, then I guess I'll be chasing up my own reservations, but in any > > case this would explain why the hostel staff aren't replying to mails: > > they've been deluged with people trying to make a booking via e-mail, > > possibly when those people don't actually need to do so. > > Um... I got very prompt replies and successfully booked a room... Well, I had a conversation with the hostel and clarified the following points: * The conference did reserve a block of rooms, but there isn't any kind of "integration" between conference registration and room booking (that they know of). That counter saying that there are 2 places left is probably just saying that n-2 people have expressed their intention to stay in the hostel. * If you want to stay in the hostel, you need to actually send a mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) saying that you're part of the EuroPython conference and that you want to book a room. Indicate your arrival and departure dates, and it probably helps to say if you're arriving after the hostel reception has closed. * Outside the conference block of rooms, I believe they're totally booked up. * Most people attending the conference have booked rooms from 2nd July to 6th July. Thus, there's more availability in the period afterwards - useful to know if you're intensively sprinting, or something. It's a shame that some of this isn't totally explicit on the registration form, but I've managed to make a booking in the last few minutes, confirming that it can be done. Paul P.S. About CERN rates in local hotels, you apparently need some kind of official letter from your university or institution saying that you are visiting CERN as proof that you qualify for special rates. Apparently, the housing service don't get mixed up with writing to (or otherwise communicating with) hotels on such matters. ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Reserving a room at the CERN hostel
On Monday 22 May 2006 19:53, Michael Hudson wrote: > Steve Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Whoever has the list of people who have checked that box should email > > them and clear this up. > > FWIW, this is extremely easy to do with Indico. Can whoever has the power of Indico sort this out? The hostel people regarded reservations as a matter of the attendees themselves making their bookings directly, mentioning EuroPython in order to get into the conference block of rooms. I specifically asked them whether the intention is (or had been) for them to get (or be sent) a list of attendees from the conference registration system, and the answer was a negative one. For what it's worth, I've updated europython.org with clarifications on this matter because I found that my expectations were somewhat inconsistent with the actual situation. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Paying for the conference
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 13:35, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > I see a whole discussion about paying for the hostel (which indeed > should be made significantly more clear), but does anyone know what we > need to do to pay for the conference proper? On this topic, I think I might to be able to answer correctly first time. For those not paying via WorldPay, which may be everyone up to this point, they are supposed to be getting an e-mail with payment details, specifically bank transfer information. I don't know when this will be sent out. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Reserving a room at the CERN hostel
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 15:51, Steve Alexander wrote: > > I just phoned the CERN Hostel. They received my email and will reply to > it soon with confirmation and details of how I can pay. In the confirmation I received, it mentioned that I had to provide a credit card number in order to absolutely confirm the reservation, although since I'm arriving late (ie. after the reception closes on Sunday 2nd July), it *may* have been possible to avoid providing card details until after arrival. The helpful hostel reception took my card details over the telephone - I'm somewhat wary of giving that kind of information out over the Internet in unencrypted form (and I don't know what CERN's encrypted e-mail support is like). Given that this procedure isn't totally obvious, I'm inclined to mention it on the europython.org site, for those yet to complete their booking process. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Update of sponsorship page done
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 17:35, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: > could someone please do a quick check and then publish it? I am not > familiar with teh porper way just yet. > > The non-published page I am referring to is at > http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2006/sponsorship I've published it now, unpublishing the previous revision, and I've made the sponsorship section appear in the sitemap because I believe the only way to get to the sponsorship page otherwise was via the banner which now leads visitors to an existing sponsor. That said, it's still pretty hard to find the sponsorship page even if the section is now visible. Perhaps a front page adjustment is in order... Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Reserving a room at the CERN hostel
On May 22, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Jacob Hallén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Monday 22 May 2006 19:53, Michael Hudson wrote: >>> Steve Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>> Whoever has the list of people who have checked that box should >>>> email >>>> them and clear this up. >>> >>> FWIW, this is extremely easy to do with Indico. >> >> Talking about emailing, shouldn't there be information emails >> going out to all >> of last years attendees. > > Yes, probably. > >> I can send a list of email addresses to whoever is responsible for >> this form of PR. > > Well, Paul Everitt promised to write a press release I think... Yup, sorry for the delay. I have two speeches in the UK this week. I'll work on it at the hotel this afternoon. Note that people can still spam their networks about the papers deadline. Godefroid did a good job on this last week on the web side. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Please move sponsership up one level
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 09:47, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Hello, > > I really love the sponsorship page on > > http://www.europython.org/sections/sponsorship/sponsorship > > but I do not like the extra link on > > http://www.europython.org/sections/sponsorship > > Can somebody with access and cps-knowledge please move it up one level? I think it's at that level because the sponsorship information has to be published within a specific section, although I guess we could publish it within the sitemap section instead. That might also require a change to the banner adverts in order to ensure that the correct document is shown for the "Your name here? Sponsor EuroPython" banner. The latter change isn't something I can figure out, but I see your point. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Registration payment details
Hello,
I've just consulted with various people and can now provide more comprehensive
payment details for those making bank transfers to settle their registration
payments.
As stated in the e-mails sent out to registrants, the following information is
to be used when making payments:
IBAN : SE76 8000 0810 5903 7676 5343
BIC/SWIFT : SWEDSESS
Bank Address: 105 34 Stockholm
In addition, to satisfy the payment systems of certain banks, the following
details may also be required:
Bank Country: Sweden
Bank Name: Swedbank
Recipient Name: Europython Society
Recipient Address: c/o AB Strakt, Norra Ågatan 10, SE-416 64 Göteborg, Sweden
Don't forget to assign the transaction fees to the sender, and it might be
useful to specify your registrant identifier ("Registrant ID" on your
completed registration form) in the payment message for tidier administration
for the organisers.
Hope this helps,
Paul
P.S. Some banks can work some of the details out: mine provides the bank name
and address but doesn't figure out the country, even though it's obvious.
P.P.S. Some banks in the EU (and EEA) can provide less expensive bank
transfers in Euros where the IBAN is used. This may be related to the EU
directive 2560/2001; see here for more:
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/03/140
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Re: [EuroPython] Registration payment details
On Thursday 25 May 2006 02:13, Alexander Schremmer wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2006 19:05:43 +0200, Paul Boddie wrote: > > Don't forget to assign the transaction fees to the sender > > This is not good if you want to pick up this idea: > > P.P.S. Some banks in the EU (and EEA) can provide less expensive bank > > transfers in Euros where the IBAN is used. This may be related to the EU > > directive 2560/2001; see here for more: > > In order to benefit from this free transfer, you have to set the fee > "strategy" to SHARE. Then it should be completly free for both parties. You're probably right about this, but whether it's completely free is another matter. My bank's fee structure mentions zero cost handling in a footnote which applies to transfers from other countries, but at the same time it still lists various prices for transfers to other countries. I'm sure my bank will add on charges creatively, anyway. Given the lack of any advice about how fees should be distributed, I just gave the usual advice that prevents a somewhat lesser amount arriving at the EuroPython end. I apologise if anyone (starting with myself) gets charged higher fees because of that. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Registration payment details
On Thursday 25 May 2006 19:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Paul Boddie wrote: > > > > IBAN : SE76 8000 0810 5903 7676 5343 > > BIC/SWIFT : SWEDSESS > > Bank Address: 105 34 Stockholm > > Bank Country: Sweden > > Bank Name: Swedbank > > Recipient Name: Europython Society > > Recipient Address: c/o AB Strakt, Norra Ågatan 10, SE-416 64 Göteborg, > > Sweden > > Thanks for the details. Looks like the same account as last year > is used. I believe so. > Could you please add these details to the payment emails and also > put them on the web-site ? I don't have control over the e-mails, sadly, but I will add the details to the site. > Actually, all Euro bank transfers in the EU which use IBAN and > BIC/SWIFT must adhere to the above directive, meaning that the > costs for the transfer may not be higher than what you pay > when you do a transfer to another bank account in the same > country. Note that these EU-transfer have to be done using > the SHARE fee option. I read all about the fee-sharing after the fact, sadly, meaning that my bank will probably use the opportunity to "stiff me" over the fees. (They mention their "low price" payment option for IBAN transfers, but don't specify the precise criteria for 2560/2001 in the help text - all that is on some other part of their site.) You'd think that accepting all fees yourself, when the general idea is that there are none for the recipient upon performing such a transaction, would prevent any additional charges, but I imagine I'll find out tomorrow when the bank computers are back from their holiday. > Since these are usually free of charge, these transfers > should be free of charge as well. If they're not, you can > complain to your bank, mentioning the above directive. Perhaps I should get round to "upgrading" my bank, anyway: complaining to the bigger Norwegian banks is generally a futile process, and this is just the tip of an iceberg of dissatisfaction. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] [Fwd: EuroPython payment]
On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: > Philippe Bossut wrote: > > Is that a legit request (see forwarded message)? Or did someone hacked > > in the EuroPython list of attendees and trying to make money? How can > > I know who's hiding behind this IBAN number? A legitimate question, but it's just the Europython Society. > it is the same information that you'll find on the payment information > page described in the link: > http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration-details >/payment-information > > so I guess it's OK (unless someone hacked into the site too:-) I added the information to the site, as promised earlier. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] INPUT: Draft of press release
Below is a first draft of a press release, with review so far by Benedikt, Harald, and Michael. FYI: Due to an unavoidable scheduling conflict, I won't actually be at EuroPython this year. :^( However, Godefroid and I are making sure that the "track host" role gets covered. On to the text... """ Software developers from around the world will gather July 3-5 in Geneva, Switzerland for EuroPython 2006, the fifth annual conference for the Python programming language . The event is hosted this year at CERN, the birthplace of the Web, and promises an exciting slate of keynotes and talks. "Python keeps growing each year, and EuroPython keeps getting better as well," says Benedikt Hegner, host and one of the lead organizers for EuroPython 2006. "This year saw Guido van Rossum, Python's creator, moving to Google with other key Python developers. Hosting EuroPython at CERN is a prestigious step for EuroPython as well. EuroPython 2006 will be keynoted both by Mr. van Rossum as well as Dr. Alan Kay, creator of object-oriented programming and pioneer of graphical computing. The schedule has 3 days of talks in 8 tracks covering agile development, business, teaching, games, an expanded web frameworks track, and more. The organizers have followed the success of earlier years by providing lightning talks, development sprints, and "birds-of-a-feather" gatherings, three attendee- favorites for fast-paced discussion and social networking. For half a decade, EuroPython has established itself as the premier event for Python users and developers in Europe and beyond. The low- cost conference is organized by the Python community, for the Python community. To register for the event, submit a proposal for a talk, or get more information on the conference, please visit the EuroPython website at http://www.europython.org/. """ --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] INPUT: Draft of press release
On May 29, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > I like this press release. I recommend that we juice in our fees and > what is covered by them, because the prices are quite reasonable even > for a community conference of 3 days. > >> the low-cost conference is organized by the Python community, for >> the Python >> community. To register for the event, submit a proposal for a talk, > > That would exchange the "low-cost". > > We also should exchange "submit a proposal for a talk" to nothing, > because at time of distribution of our press release the submitting > time will be over. In a draft I'm about to circulate, I add in the 190 euro advance registration fee. I don't go into further details. I removed the "submit a talk" part. --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Final draft of press release
Based on one public comment and one private comment, here is a last revision of the press release. The distribution folks can take it from here. """ Software developers from around the world will gather July 3-5 in Geneva, Switzerland for EuroPython 2006, the fifth annual conference for the Python programming language . The event is hosted this year at CERN, the birthplace of the Web, and promises an exciting slate of keynotes and talks. "Python keeps growing each year, and EuroPython keeps getting better as well," says Benedikt Hegner, host and one of the lead organizers for EuroPython 2006. "This year saw Guido van Rossum, Python's creator, moving to Google with other key Python developers. Hosting EuroPython at CERN is a prestigious step for EuroPython as well. EuroPython 2006 will be keynoted both by Mr. van Rossum as well as Dr. Alan Kay, an originator of object-oriented programming and pioneer of graphical computing. The schedule has 3 days of talks in 8 tracks covering agile development, business, teaching, games, an expanded web frameworks track, and more. The organizers have followed the success of earlier years by providing lightning talks, development sprints, and "birds-of-a-feather" gatherings, three attendee-favorites for fast-paced discussion and social networking. For half a decade, EuroPython has established itself as the premier event for Python users and developers in Europe and beyond. With a low registration cost of 190 euros, the conference is organized by the Python community, for the Python community. To register for the conference or get more information, please visit the EuroPython website at http://www.europython.org/. """ --Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] paypal payments
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 18:19, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > > Dario prepared a paypal account under the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > for those people not liking bank transfers. > Maybe someone can put this information on the website. > > And for new registrants - now it is possible to pay directly via > paypal at registration. I've added this information to the site. Apologies if I've missed any IRC meetings of late - I suppose most of the pressing issues over which I could have any influence are now well under control. ;-) Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] May someone add the date of the conference dinner tothe calendar, pleas?
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 23:51, Audun Ostrem Nordal wrote: > (Forgot to CC the list. Stupid Outlook.) [...] > - Conference dinner: Tuesday, July 4th, 2006 from 8.30pm until 11pm > - The CERN "tour" (100 seats, first-come-first-serve based on when you > register): Thursday, July 6th, 2006 from 9am until approximately 12am. > > Should definetely be added to the calender, though. Now added! Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Ruby & Python Conference 2007
On Friday 08 December 2006 10:58, Katarzyna Bylec wrote: > > we are a group of students from University of Poznan, Poland where the RuPy > Conference of Ruby and Python organized by us will be held in April 14-15, > 2007. The idea behind the conference is to try to animate central- and > east-european Python and Ruby communities. We would like to put together > Python & Ruby experts with young programmers and to support a good > communication channel for East-West exchange of prospective ideas. It sounds like an interesting plan, and I note that some people in the Python community have already publicised it somewhat, some even stating that they will be attending. > Since we can see relation between the idea of EuroPython and the purpose of > RuPy we would like to ask you as a experienced organizers to offer us some > help. We are still looking for speakers for our conference, therefore we > would be grateful if you could point us some communication channels through > which we would be able to convince people to present their Ruby and Python > related ideas in Poznan next year. Perhaps you could also popularize the > idea of RuPy among your friends and Python colleagues, especially among > those who have some ideas they want to introduce to wider audience. What you could do is to contact the python.org webmaster and try and get the conference mentioned in the news section, particularly as the deadlines approach. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a mention: other conferences such as OSDC aren't Python-specific, and at least yours has Python in the name. ;-) I see that the Python events page has RuPy already mentioned: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEvents Another avenue, perhaps taken already, is that of getting Ron Stephens to mention RuPy in his Python411 podcast. I'm sure he wouldn't mind mentioning it again, even some time in advance: his latest podcast was about PyCon, and that's at the end of February. Paul P.S. I haven't said it already, but perhaps now is as good a time as any to say thank you once again to the organisers of EuroPython 2006 at CERN. I'm particularly impressed that a high number of presenters were persuaded to upload their talks, and I hope that as the Web site is updated for 2007 we don't obscure or restrict the availability of those talks. ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] moving forward -- IRC meeting 7th March?
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 17:39, Michael Hudson wrote: > As the days and weeks tick by, EuroPython approaches. > > I'm at a PyPy sprint and Bea Düring and I have been talking about > organizing the programme -- what tracks are we going to have, who is going > to run them, and perhaps most importantly fixing some kind of timeline -- > when are we going to send out a CFP? what deadline will it have for > proposals? I think we really need to establish and publish a timeline. As was noted last year, there's a lot of stuff which can happily go on in parallel with the organisation of the local details, and people need help in deciding whether they're going to be doing a talk, how long they have to prepare for it, how long they can hold off before registering, and so on (hoping that we don't get a lot of warmed up talks from PyCon, incidentally). > As such, we think we should have a meeting in #europython on freenode on > Wednesday the 7th of March at 18:00 central european time. That wouldn't fit in with my schedule, but I'd gladly volunteer to be a general Web monkey like last year, especially if it dampens down the debate about which Web publishing solution gets used. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] moving forward -- IRC meeting 7th March?
On Monday 05 March 2007 22:17, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > > Based on last year version of the wiki, I have worked on > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007 > > and > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007 for the organizers. > > There you'll find other pages to help prepare the ircmeetings and > other points. I haven't so far had time to work on a timeline (that I > wanted to copy and adapt from last year) also because the > wiki has a very slow response time). Does anyone knows what could > happen and who to contact to let the problem be known and checked ? > (the problem could be on my side, but I do not have any other problem > with Internet) The Wiki can be quite slow. However, I copied last year's timeline into the Wiki, and I think it's about time to start keeping pace with last year's developments, especially as the non-local stuff didn't pick up pace until quite late on. See here for more: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007/ProposedTimeline > As I wrote, I proposed to switch from CPS (that I do not know) to > Plone (that I know enough to work with, as wrote another person from > the list too). I won't debate on that further than to let know that I > can help if EP uses Plone and would not if it does not. And I think > that if we change now, before too much new content goes into the new > site, it should not be very difficult. Either way, we need to have a site live in the next two weeks, in my opinion. Firstly, because people thinking ahead need something to relate to. Secondly, because we had the site up in an unfinished state by mid-March last year. And last year we also got ourselves into a situation where people were registering for something about which they knew potentially very little, so it's best not to regard last year's timeline as particularly strict. The advantage this year is that the site is already live, but it needs updating. I've volunteered to help out, but I can't sanity check things about Vilnius like I could about Geneva and CERN. I will work with more or less any of the proposed technologies, though, but CPS will be fine unless someone wants lots of fancy features (and presumably to replace Indico as well) and thinks that this will enrich the conference participants' lifestyles in some way. (If so, they should have started doing so last year, however, so I would advise against it.) Just for fun, in the timeline I also brought in some comparisons with PyCon because it can be quite fascinating to speculate about what they've done right. Certainly, the longer registration period can't have done much harm, despite the observation that there aren't always many early takers, and having a published schedule before registration opens is also likely to be persuasive. I suppose having a conference in February focuses people on getting as much done before Christmas holidays begin - two months or more before it opens. If we were to plan deadlines according to PyCon "rules", but not leave a gap between talk acceptances and opening registration (although the schedule may have been published later), things would look like this: Talk submission start: 25th February Talk submission end: 12th April Schedule announced, registration opens: 27th April Registration ends: 29th June I look forward to reading the summary from Wednesday's IRC meeting. :-) Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] website hosting / moving forward...
On Tuesday 06 March 2007 20:09, Matthew Bull wrote: > Hi Nicholas / List, > > There are a couple of specialist zope / plone companies you could > approach or we (TeleMedic Systems) have a spare server we could let > europython use in return for a sponsor credit... the advantage to the > later is I would have 24/7 physical access to the box and we would have > a complete server to play with This is a generous offer, and I'll leave it to the official organisers to decide whether a switch to Plone and to such an environment is desirable. However, I stand by what I wrote before about having the site ready very soon - such a switch may be a delaying factor, and I don't really think we have very long before the visibility of the conference has to be increased, talk submissions solicited, and so on. > I've done plone installs in the past > (we use plone fairly heavily internally) but have never used ZEO so may > need a little advice on that (seeing as how europython seems to be part > eurozope these days surely there is someone with some experience of this > to advise, when I get stuck ;-) the only outstanding issue is > integration with Indico (if thats whats being used this year) and the > payment system... Note that Indico does "E-Payment" in the registration now (see the 3rd August 2006 update): http://cdsware.cern.ch/indico/news.html I see that EuroPython has to use its own Indico server this time around: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2006-August/006119.html And I suppose the details of the 2006 conference will remain where they are for the foreseeable future. I guess the details of previous conferences are archived somewhere. > My apologies but I can't make the IRC meet tomorrow (I'll be on a plane) > and will be off the grid for the next week (all bar my mobile) but I'll > touch base with you all when I get back... > > Hoping we can help take this forward. Within my own time constraints (which are hopefully fairly slack) I'm happy to work on either CPS or Plone, and I can do this more or less immediately. I would like to know what the concrete reasons for a switch are, however. Are we actually planning more functionality or do people just dislike CPS? Will the current hosting go away? Are the people wanting to switch actually going to work on content? If people have "PyCon envy" (nice schedule pop-ups which has me chasing them around in one of my browsers before they disappear) it's arguably getting quite late to think about developing fancy conference software even though it's all supposedly so easy in Python. A perusal of this thread may be instructive: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2006-January/005562.html Remember that this discussion took place a bit earlier last year and ended up settling on using the same software again (in an uneasy silence). Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Web Site Updates
Hello, I finally managed to work out my password to europython.org (sorry to Jean-Marc for filling up the authentication logs with bad password attempts!), and I've removed some out-of-date information from the 2006 conference (archiving it for later perusal). A few things we should decide upon (if not already decided) or that I would like to know for the Web site: * The fee structure for 2007. (I suppose this will be known on Wednesday.) * The difference between the end of normal registration and the end of online registration - is "normal" the "normal bird" thing we cooked up last year? * Some details about the location: travel to Vilnius, nice details about the location. I've done some research but some sanity checking would be great! * The accommodation section is not yet updated but some details would look great on the updated site. ;-) There are some minor Web site things I haven't worked out such as removing various pages (CERN, Geneva) and hiding others (Keynotes) from the sitemap menu and the top menu, although hiding the folders concerned has helped in some ways. More CPS magic is required! Finally, the Indico situation needs to be resolved so that we can point to the programme served up by a EuroPython-specific instance of the software. I don't know who is best to deal with that kind of infrastructure issue, but I might try and get some Indico experience over the weekend, as well as going through other pages on the site and getting them into shape for this year's conference. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Paper recommendations from last conference
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 01:06, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > > In order to assist him in his work, it would be great if anyone involved > with last year's EuroPython could recommend 1 to 3 papers for him to review. You can see last year's schedule here: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=44&detailLevel=contribution&viewMode=room I don't believe that refereed papers received as much emphasis as had originally been intended when the conference was planned, but you can certainly find papers from the schedule itself. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Whom would you like to see at Europython
On Friday 23 March 2007 14:39, Stefano Masini wrote: > On 3/23/07, Nicolas Pettiaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about inviting somone who is responsible in this OLPC project to > > talk about "OLPC project and python" ? (or an update of Alan Kay > > lecture of lact year about squeak and python) > > Thinking back to past Europython conferences I remember Alan Kay, > Steven Pemberton, Mark Shuttleworth... they all talked about widely > different topics. Steven Pemberton's talk managed to be highly entertaining and yet be only tangentially related to Python, although he did demonstrate some ABC code if I remember correctly. I suppose this shows that people don't have to talk about Python, but they do need to have some level of association with it. > Wouldn't OLPC sound like a sort of repetition with what Alan Kay > talked about? As the broad argument I mean... Alan Kay supposedly has an agenda of his own, as is often discussed on the edu-sig mailing list, but the level of OLPC content was relatively low compared to talks actually about that project. Still, the wider themes are similar, although Jim Gettys' FOSDEM talk [1], for example, was more about the technology and less about the applications - something which may be drifting away from the interests shared by that project and parts of the anticipated audience. Paul P.S. Reviews of Ivan Krstić's OLPC talk were wildly positive, but I haven't seen any recordings of it yet. Were any audio/video recordings made available for last year's EuroPython? I've given up on seeing any for recent PyCons. [1] http://www.fosdem.org/2007/media/video ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Keynote Speakers
Hello, Although it wasn't on the agenda for today's IRC meeting (minutes available in the Wiki [1]), the EuroPython Web site's calendar says that the keynote speakers should be (or should have been) announced today. Are we any closer to knowing who they are?! Paul [1] http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting6 ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] can some body who can edit the main europython home page
On Saturday 28 April 2007 17:31, Laura Creighton wrote: > put a link to the call for refereed papers there? I'm working on this now. It'll be up shortly. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Calendar Updates
Hello, After yesterday's IRC meeting, it was more or less decided that registration will need to be put back by about a week. I have updated the calendar to indicate this change of plan and also indicate that (some of) the keynote speakers will be announced at the same time. See here for the minutes of the meeting: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting8 The Web site is, of course, here: http://www.europython.org/ Let's attempt to meet on IRC next Monday in order to get things back on schedule. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] IRC Meeting on Monday 7th May
Reminding everyone that an IRC meeting was suggested for today, Monday 7th May (2007-05-07): Time: 18:00 CEST (17:00 BST, 16:00 UTC/GMT) (5pm UK time, 6pm in most of Western Europe) Location: the #europython IRC channel on freenode.net Agenda: see the following page... http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting9 ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Registration Preparations
Hello, I have been making preparations for the opening of registration, following the schedule as closely as possible. However, before we actually open registration a few things need finalising: * Payment information - this may need reviewing both on the Web site and in the Indico e-payments module. IBAN: SE76 8000 0810 5903 7676 5343 BIC/SWIFT: SWEDSESS Bank Name: Swedbank Bank Address: 105 34 Stockholm Bank Country: Sweden Recipient Name: Europython Society Recipient Address: c/o AB Strakt, Norra Ågatan 10, SE-416 64 Göteborg, Sweden * Any objections to the fees need to be made. See the following page for details: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees * The special accommodation details need clarifying: a form (an Excel original, I believe, plus something like PDF) was mentioned, but a booking code for the hotel site was also considered a possibility. * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?! A few other things: * The Call For Sponsors should be issued soon - this needs reviewing, then pushing out via the usual channels: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/CallForSponsors * We need a keynote speaker announcement - the Web site has a small news item ready with details of GvR plus keynote #1, but what about keynote #2? (Pictures of keynotes #1 and #2 are sought. We could also just push out the Web version, but it wouldn't be as nice as a proper announcement.) * A registration announcement is needed. However, it may be acceptable to just adapt the Web version when it gets published since it's quite comprehensive. Your thoughts? Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Registration Status
Hello, The preparations for registration are mostly complete. Here is what has been done (with links for CPS users): * Registration information has been updated and made ready on the site: http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/how-to-register * Payment information has been updated and is ready in Indico and on the site for the "pay later" (ie. after registration) option. Benedikt will fill in the remaining details for e-payments in Indico tomorrow. http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/payment-information * No-one has contested the fees, but there's still time. ;-) http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees * Special accommodation details are ready on the site. These will be published when registration opens, unless someone thinks that they can be published immediately (or as soon as I can manage it). People tell me that the 50 room figure was a commitment, not a limit - if there's no real or clear limit, we should find out soon so that the registration process doesn't scare people with a rapidly decreasing number (like last year). http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/booking-information * Benedikt has been checking the Indico stuff and seems to be satisfied. Thanks go to him for doing the scary technical stuff in this department! If all goes well, we should be pushing out the registration, payment and special accommodation pages to the site fairly soon (perhaps within 24 hours) and switching on the registration parts of Indico. Then it'll be time to announce registration in all the usual places: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/PublicRelations Following on from the last message, comments on the Call For Sponsors, as well as any pictures and details of keynote speakers are still very welcome. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Registration information
On Sunday 13 May 2007 16:33, Jonathan Share wrote: > > Are you just behind schedule with preparations or is the event dead? We're just behind schedule with preparations and can only offer our apologies for not rolling everything out in a more timely fashion. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Help for visa
Hello, > I'm a Python programmer from Iran. I'm eager to attend the europython > conference. Because there is no consulate or embassy for Lithuania in Iran, > I can not take visa for my trip from Iran. Would you please guide me and > let me know how I can prepare the visa? Some searching revealed this list of diplomatic missions from the Lithuanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.urm.lt/index.php?195793759 It would seem that the Lithuanian embassy in Turkey is responsible for diplomatic relations with your country: http://tr.mfa.lt Please note that this information is provided as a "best effort" and that further guidance must be sought from the appropriate authorities on such matters. I have no experience in such matters myself and unfortunately cannot provide any more substantial advice, but I hope that this information is a useful starting point. Regards, Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Videostreamin' ?
On Monday 07 May 2007 13:01, Christian Scholz wrote: > > I wanted to propose to stream parts of the conference live via internet > and eventually Second Life. I'd bring the camera anyway and streaming > can be done either via http://ustream.tv (very easy setup, just plugin > the camera and click the Record button, flash plugin) and/or via > Quicktime Streaming Server. The latter would be needed for livestreaming > it into Second Life (which I would take care of). Sorry to leave you waiting for so long without a response! As I've said in various places, I think the FOSDEM videos were done very well, although I only looked at the downloads - I don't know if they did actual streaming - and I have seen streaming from conferences like aKademy done fairly well, too. Here's a page I just saw about this very kind of thing: http://wingolog.org/archives/2006/07/07/so-you-want-to-stream-a-conference However, one very important aspect of the FOSDEM materials, and quite probably the other materials too, was the open format employed. For many users, Quicktime is either inaccessible or involves pacing on the version treadmill set in motion by Apple. And whilst Flash is a widespread phenomenon, it too has similar limitations. This is only my personal opinion, though. If you're enthusiastic about streaming stuff and this is the way you want to do it, then I don't want to rain on your parade. However, if there's all sorts of additional work involved (extra servers, more software), I'd rather see it directed toward providing materials in open formats, myself. This is an interesting idea, though, and I'd like to see it discussed further. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] [Zope3-dev] EuroPython talk submission deadline tomorrow!
On Saturday 19 May 2007 00:45, Jodok Batlogg wrote: > On 17.05.2007, at 21:15, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Tomorrow (friday may 18) is the EuroPython talk submission deadline! > > So if you are thinking about giving a talk at EuroPython, please > > submit it soon! > > bummer :( > i missed the deadline by 38 minutes :( > > any chance to submit lovely systems proposal via mail? I don't want to say anything I'm not "authorised" to say, but I think it quite likely that we'll extend the period for submitting talks, meaning that everyone who tried to submit talks at the last minute but then experienced account difficulties, or anyone who didn't have time during the week to finish off their proposal can still submit a talk. > we'd like to talk about "high performance zope3". > lovely systems is working on "web2.0 portals" that have pretty heavy > load (peak 250 mbit/s, > 1000 concurrent connections). > i'll talk about the general architecture goals when running "big" > portals based on zope3 (nginx reverse proxies, varnish caches, > memcached, ipvs load balancers,...), strategies to monitor and > improve zope3 settings (z3monitor, zservertracelog, cache > tuning,...), do and don'ts > we'll also release some of our performance-tuning (caching,...) > python packages at this event. Well you've got my attention, anyway. ;-) But unless someone in the talks department decides otherwise, the deadline is likely to be pushed back a few days. We'll bring you some news on this topic tomorrow. > thanks - and sorry for beeing late No problem! Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
On Saturday 19 May 2007 14:44, Laura Creighton wrote: > > I have 3 that were mailed to me rather than submitted, by people who > waited till the very last to submit and then had something not work > or otherwise delay them. I think that is a little light. I'm for browsing > what we have and then seeing where we have holes, and seeing if we > can solicit papers to fill the gaps. What do the rest of you think? I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday. That way, anyone who wanted to submit something but didn't get round to completing it before the weekend can still do so. Perhaps we'll get some surprises! Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
On Sunday 20 May 2007 10:31, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within > > a) europython website > b) comp.lang.python > > Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak > up now or be silent forever? :) I've uploaded an announcement and will adjust the calendar and other things to match. We really need to commit to firm dates for the other things, and I'm tempted to suggest... * May 22nd as the registration opening date (only three weeks after we promised, sigh!), with or without the full complement of e-payment modules. * A keynote announcement when the registration opens. * May 31st for the schedule announcement. * June 8th for the end of early registration (at the very least). * The call for sponsors may as well go out now. Let us also not forget the usual IRC meeting tomorrow where we should make absolutely sure that we're ready for registration. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] EuroPython 2007: Registration is Open!
Registration is now open for EuroPython 2007: the European Python and Zope Conference, taking place this year in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. Once again, we thank supporters of EuroPython for their patience, and encourage early registration by offering the usual generous discount on fees for registrations made up until 8th June. Online registration will close on Monday 2nd July. More information on registration can be found here: * http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/how-to-register For more general information on the conference, please visit... * http://www.europython.org/ We look forward to seeing you in Vilnius! ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Accouncing talks
On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:23, Markus Franz wrote: > > When will the accepted talks be accounced? The website > (http://www.europython.org/sections/calendar) tells me: > > "31st May: Schedule announced (acceptances sent)" > > I submitted talks for the conference, but I've not received any message of > acceptance / rejection yet. The scheduling has been postponed slightly: partly due to the extended deadline for talks, and partly due to the workload of those responsible. Sorry that the site doesn't reflect that - I'll update the calendar with a tentative date, although the full situation will be known tomorrow evening, I imagine. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] New registrant in 'EuroPython 2007': Mr. BATLOGG, Jodok
Maria, >I finally got to sign up on indico.cern.ch and already registered one >person. Congratulations! >Now my question: do I really have to set up an account for every >single attendee? This is quite a bit of work, as I have to register 4 >persons in total >If so - I will do :-) I'm prepared to be contradicted here, but I think the idea is that each participant has their own account so they can access the Indico services on a personal basis. Sadly, that may mean more work for someone, and we're sorry if that person is you! I just checked the registration details for the person you registered, and it says that there are 4 guests for the conference dinner for that person. Remember that each conference attendee can register themselves for the conference dinner at no extra cost, and that guests of that person will not therefore be other conference attendees. If we didn't make this clear enough and/or you didn't intend to include so many guests, please let us know so that we can adjust the numbers. If you need any assistance (as was required with the account registration), please let me/us know! Regards, Paul _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] can't register
On Monday 04 June 2007 23:00, Eugene Van den Bulke wrote: > Hi, > > I have been desperately trying to register for the past 4 days without > any luck so far. I don't seem to be able to pick a suitable password > for the CERN system and I can read instructions ... please help. I > contacted the external support of CERN but no joy so far. Which browser and operating system are you running? At least one other person has had problems with setting a password, and I'd like to solve these problems definitively. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython%202007
Mantas, >I have registered to EuroPython 2007 conference. During registration >there was appeared an error, but I got letter with information, that >registration was successful. Do you remember what the error said? Did it happen when you got to the payment page? I ask just so that we can help anyone else who has similar experiences. >Before paying money for conferece I just wanted to ensure that my >registration is really successful. > >I received this registration ID: c13919r19 You are in the list of registrants, so I think the process was successful. Congratulations and welcome! ;-) Paul _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] registration INFRAE people
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 17:21, Isabel de Pater wrote: > This afternoon all the Infrae people registered for the Europython > Conference in July. [...] > Could you please make sure all of the above registrants are Early Bird > without guests, with conference dinner for the registrant only. Execpt > for Kit Blake (speaker) all the registrants are NORMAL. All these people are now registered as requested. > In order to be an early registrant, I have to make the registration > payments before June 8th. > I will make the payments immediately. For your information: I will pay > 5x 100EUR - including the registrants ID nr and name. > > I'm sorry for the mistakes. No problem! Everything is fixed and forgiven. ;-) Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Registration
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Good morning, > > I would like to participate in Europython 2007 together with my colleagues > from the same company and I would like to ask you how can I register > myself and my colleagues? As we are from the same company and I am > responsible for I would like to manage this registration and all things > connected with. Could you tell me how to do that? Unfortunately, the conference management service that we are using doesn't directly support one person making registrations on behalf of others: each registrant must have an account in the system, and each account is directly connected to a particular e-mail address. There are workarounds for this situation: * Get everyone to register themselves - it shouldn't take more than a few minutes and we'll gladly fix any mistakes. You can pay later instead of paying immediately in the registration process. * Make accounts for everyone using e-mail addresses that you can monitor in some way, either by having your colleagues forward any messages to you regarding account creation, or by creating a special conference e-mail address for each person (eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and then collecting messages sent to those addresses on their behalf. Then, register those people using the created accounts. We are aware that this has created a rather awkward situation, and we apologise to anyone who has had problems registering. Again it should be emphasised that we will try and get people registered as quickly and as painlessly as possible when they report problems in this regard. Paul ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] EuroPython 2007: Early registration ends on Friday 8th June
The last few days of EuroPython's early registration period are upon us: reduced rates will only be available until (and including) Friday 8th June; after this date, normal rates will apply. More information on registration can be found here: * http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/how-to-register Help with issues related to registration is provided here: * http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/help-on-registration Act now to ensure your place at EuroPython and secure yourself a generous discount on the registration fee! ___ EuroPython mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
