[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Drops Using 'Model E' Trademark
~$35k, 20% smaller than a S, r:200mi http://www.automotive.com/news/1405-tesla-drops-model-e-trademark/ Tesla Drops 'Model E' Trademark By Megan Stewart | May 06, 2014 [image] 2014 Tesla Model S Passengers Side In Motion The newest Tesla model is in the planning stages, and while a name may have already been assigned to the new mass-market electric vehicle, Tesla has decided to change it up. While even Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk often referred to the newest car as the Model E, the company has decided against pursuing a trademark for that name. This may be a good thing, just in case customers were thinking it may be a fun idea to stock their garage with the Tesla Model S, X, and E. By changing the name of the E, Tesla is opening up the possibility for a new nomenclature altogether. We may not know just what the automaker is going to call its latest electric vehicle, but what we do know is that it will be roughly 20 percent smaller than the current Model S, have an electric range of 200 miles, and be priced in the ballpark of $35,000. The model will be revealed early next year, and we have a good feeling that the automaker has already decided on a name befitting the latest edition to the lineup. Although Model E may have fit well with the idea behind the first two model names--Model S and Model X-- we think that it's just too generic. E for electric is anything but original. Source: United States Patent and Trademark Office [© 2014 Automotive.com] http://www.torquenews.com/2250/tesla-s-game-changing-sedan-will-not-be-called-model-e Tesla’s game-changing sedan will not be called Model E 2014-05-06 - The hyped Generation III vehicle due to begin production in 2017 remains nameless, as Tesla has dropped its pursuit of the trademark “Model E.” ... For all EVLN posts use: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_pagenode=413529query=evlnsort=date EVLN: Nissan's quiet-Leaf-rally in a sleeping French village (video) http://green.autoblog.com/2014/05/01/nissan-leaf-evs-slip-quietly-through-french-village/ EVLN: Solving EV Range Anxiety - The eBuggy Rolling Battery http://www.energymatters.com.au/index.php?main_page=news_articlearticle_id=4280 http://www.myeasternshoremd.com/news/kent_county/article_335c1d07-2430-5973-8748-84c1f7c71040.html eVgo EVSE open @Simon Malls Premium Outlet Shopping Centers http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Lithium-Ion-Supercapacitors-come-as-individual-cells-and-modules-20026482 ULTIMO Li-Ion Supercapacitors come as individual cells and modules + EVLN: Shockwave's Defiant EV, 3wheel e-sports roadster revealed (video) {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-Drops-Using-Model-E-Trademark-tp4669528.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 19
Wire heating is very real - hence there are derating tables for selecting wire gauge for an application - ampacity. 4% change in resistance over 10°C is significant Insulation severely derates copper conductors. I am familiar with Allegro Microsystems Hall sensors and most are temperature compensated. Hall elements change their response subsequent to mechanical strain and thermal effects cause mechanical strain. They have ways of stabilizing them. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Jan Steinman via EV wrote: Thanks for bringing that to my attention, Peter, although ±4% for 90% of the typical annual temperature change here isn't TOO bad! I'm guessing temperature affects on battery capacity are of a similar magnitude. Keep in mind that the wire also heats up from the current flowing in it. That causes additional errors. There are meters that use copper wire as the shunt; but they include a thermistor that senses the wire temperature, and corrects the current reading accordingly. I think I like the hall-effect torus sensor better. Hall effect sensors can be very good; but they too have their sources of error. A classic problem with hall effect sensors is zero drift. (not reading 0 at zero amps). Simply measuring current isn't too bad. The real challenge is to measure amphours. Any zero offset causes errors to accumulate. An offset error of 0.1 amps on a 500 amp sensor (0.02%, or 1 part in 5,000) accumulates an error of 2.4 amphours per day. -- Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple. -- Charles Mingus -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edisonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140515/c9e92d6e/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining
Jack's concern was that the meter might make a connection between frame ground and the high voltage pack so he put the DC-DC in for isolation. I did have that problem on the analog volt meter I used to have in the truck so I put one in as well. However I don't have any evidence to suggest it's really necessary for this meter. I haven't found any continuity between the 12v power and high voltage connections on the meter. But the DC-DC was only a couple bucks so it was cheap insurance. --Rick On 05/14/2014 08:17 PM, Michael K Johnson wrote: Thank you! That's perfect! All you are really doing is programming mV/A with a max of 75mV, so that makes sense. The EVTV diagram says Isolated 12v to 12v DC-DC Converter. I didn't see anywhere else that the negative power terminal on the JLD404AH cannot be tied to the COM terminal. And all my 12V regulated supplies are common negative. I don't have a separate 12V house battery in the lawn tractor. Are you using an isolated dc-dc converter in your truck? On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have one in my truck and it works great. It wants a 75mV shunt but I have a 50mV/500A. You just lie the meter--I.e. I said it was connected to a 75mV/750A shunt. The manual is available here: http://www.lightobject.info/viewtopic.php?f=14t=1074 Jack Rickard of EVTV has written a plain english one here: http://media3.evtv.me/JLD404AH.pdf. --Rick ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Drops Using 'Model E' Trademark
Some are suggesting Model T. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-Drops-Using-Model-E-Trademark-tp4669528p4669531.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining
Well, my system floats from the frame, but lightobject responded: : The power of the JLD404 is isolated and the ground of the : power negative has no common to the Input ground. You do : NOT want to common ground the power and the INPUT ground. : Otherwise, the amp meter won't work and that is the pretty of the : JLD404 with isolated Ground So I guess it's off to ebay for an isolating power supply. I haven't seen one yet that can handle 48V and output 12V, so it looks like I'll have to put it downstream from my buck converter. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Rick Beebe r...@beebe.org wrote: Jack's concern was that the meter might make a connection between frame ground and the high voltage pack so he put the DC-DC in for isolation. I did have that problem on the analog volt meter I used to have in the truck so I put one in as well. However I don't have any evidence to suggest it's really necessary for this meter. I haven't found any continuity between the 12v power and high voltage connections on the meter. But the DC-DC was only a couple bucks so it was cheap insurance. --Rick On 05/14/2014 08:17 PM, Michael K Johnson wrote: Thank you! That's perfect! All you are really doing is programming mV/A with a max of 75mV, so that makes sense. The EVTV diagram says Isolated 12v to 12v DC-DC Converter. I didn't see anywhere else that the negative power terminal on the JLD404AH cannot be tied to the COM terminal. And all my 12V regulated supplies are common negative. I don't have a separate 12V house battery in the lawn tractor. Are you using an isolated dc-dc converter in your truck? On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have one in my truck and it works great. It wants a 75mV shunt but I have a 50mV/500A. You just lie the meter--I.e. I said it was connected to a 75mV/750A shunt. The manual is available here: http://www.lightobject.info/viewtopic.php?f=14t=1074 Jack Rickard of EVTV has written a plain english one here: http://media3.evtv.me/JLD404AH.pdf. --Rick ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining
My ELF has one. 48:12. Let me see If I can f ind you a source. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michael K Johnson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Well, my system floats from the frame, but lightobject responded: : The power of the JLD404 is isolated and the ground of the : power negative has no common to the Input ground. You do : NOT want to common ground the power and the INPUT ground. : Otherwise, the amp meter won't work and that is the pretty of the : JLD404 with isolated Ground So I guess it's off to ebay for an isolating power supply. I haven't seen one yet that can handle 48V and output 12V, so it looks like I'll have to put it downstream from my buck converter. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Rick Beebe r...@beebe.org wrote: Jack's concern was that the meter might make a connection between frame ground and the high voltage pack so he put the DC-DC in for isolation. I did have that problem on the analog volt meter I used to have in the truck so I put one in as well. However I don't have any evidence to suggest it's really necessary for this meter. I haven't found any continuity between the 12v power and high voltage connections on the meter. But the DC-DC was only a couple bucks so it was cheap insurance. --Rick On 05/14/2014 08:17 PM, Michael K Johnson wrote: Thank you! That's perfect! All you are really doing is programming mV/A with a max of 75mV, so that makes sense. The EVTV diagram says Isolated 12v to 12v DC-DC Converter. I didn't see anywhere else that the negative power terminal on the JLD404AH cannot be tied to the COM terminal. And all my 12V regulated supplies are common negative. I don't have a separate 12V house battery in the lawn tractor. Are you using an isolated dc-dc converter in your truck? On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have one in my truck and it works great. It wants a 75mV shunt but I have a 50mV/500A. You just lie the meter--I.e. I said it was connected to a 75mV/750A shunt. The manual is available here: http://www.lightobject.info/viewtopic.php?f=14t=1074 Jack Rickard of EVTV has written a plain english one here: http://media3.evtv.me/JLD404AH.pdf. --Rick ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edisonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140515/08f9827d/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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Re: [EVDL] Miles Remaining
This is not what is on the ELF, but ti is wqhat you are after. http://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mean-Well/SD-15C-12.shtml 1.25A $13. I use Meanwell PS in my lab and have no complaints. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Michael Ross michael.e.r...@gmail.comwrote: My ELF has one. 48:12. Let me see If I can f ind you a source. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michael K Johnson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Well, my system floats from the frame, but lightobject responded: : The power of the JLD404 is isolated and the ground of the : power negative has no common to the Input ground. You do : NOT want to common ground the power and the INPUT ground. : Otherwise, the amp meter won't work and that is the pretty of the : JLD404 with isolated Ground So I guess it's off to ebay for an isolating power supply. I haven't seen one yet that can handle 48V and output 12V, so it looks like I'll have to put it downstream from my buck converter. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Rick Beebe r...@beebe.org wrote: Jack's concern was that the meter might make a connection between frame ground and the high voltage pack so he put the DC-DC in for isolation. I did have that problem on the analog volt meter I used to have in the truck so I put one in as well. However I don't have any evidence to suggest it's really necessary for this meter. I haven't found any continuity between the 12v power and high voltage connections on the meter. But the DC-DC was only a couple bucks so it was cheap insurance. --Rick On 05/14/2014 08:17 PM, Michael K Johnson wrote: Thank you! That's perfect! All you are really doing is programming mV/A with a max of 75mV, so that makes sense. The EVTV diagram says Isolated 12v to 12v DC-DC Converter. I didn't see anywhere else that the negative power terminal on the JLD404AH cannot be tied to the COM terminal. And all my 12V regulated supplies are common negative. I don't have a separate 12V house battery in the lawn tractor. Are you using an isolated dc-dc converter in your truck? On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have one in my truck and it works great. It wants a 75mV shunt but I have a 50mV/500A. You just lie the meter--I.e. I said it was connected to a 75mV/750A shunt. The manual is available here: http://www.lightobject.info/viewtopic.php?f=14t=1074 Jack Rickard of EVTV has written a plain english one here: http://media3.evtv.me/JLD404AH.pdf. --Rick ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edisonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edisonhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140515/b4296138/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Drops Using 'Model E' Trademark
On 15 May 2014 at 16:23, fotajoye via EV wrote: Some are suggesting Model T. Three pedals on the floor, and none of them is an accelerator! ;-) David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla Drops Using 'Model E' Trademark
Of course the throttle and spark advance were on the steering wheel.. the brake, reverse, and second gear were on the floor and any pedal would slow you down. *Dennis Lee Miles * *Director **E.V.T.I. Inc.* *E-Mail:* *evprofes...@evprofessor.com* evprofes...@evprofessor.com *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913* Dade City, Florida 33523 USA On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:36 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On 15 May 2014 at 16:23, fotajoye via EV wrote: Some are suggesting Model T. Three pedals on the floor, and none of them is an accelerator! ;-) David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140516/f6d582e5/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)