[EVDL] EVLN: 40 Tesla owners celebrate Cousins Country Inn's L3 Superstations
http://www.thedalleschronicle.com/news/2014/aug/13/cousins-hosts-tesla-party/
Cousins hosts Tesla party
August 13, 2014
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TESLA OWNERS gather at Cousins Country Inn Aug. 9 for the dedication of new
supercharging stations for the vehicles.
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An owner takes a photo of her car at the new charging station
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As if a wildfire, classic cars and a good old-fashioned threshing bee
weren’t enough, Wasco County was invaded Saturday.
By Teslas.
About 40 Tesla owners converged on Cousins Country Inn to celebrate
installation of a bank of Tesla super charging stations just outside the
swimming pool off the Ash Street entrance. The unique electric cars pulled
in and out of the charging stations throughout the day and were parked all
over the neighborhood for the dedication event.
The bank of a half-dozen charging stations required Northern Wasco County
People’s Utility District to substantially beef up the Cousins power feed
with a 500 kVa transformer and a 12.5 kV feed.
The owners came from all over the Pacific Northwest to be among the first to
try out the bank of chargers. Tesla has been busily adding a web of charging
stations around the country.
“Tesla customers are asking for more charging stations so that they may be
able to travel with their families, etc.,” explained Case. “Tesla has many
strategically placed charging stations across the country, but is now
working to fill in, so that their customers are able to take trips.”
Tesla has fewer than 10 supercharging stations around Oregon and Washington.
The closest are in Woodburn, Centralia and Ellensburg. Most are along the
I-5 corridor. The next-closest station heading east is in Ritzville, Wash.
Owners of the vehicles, on hand for the dedication were happy to talk about
their vehicles. Owners estimated the cars get between 240 and 260 miles per
charge.
“We love our cars,” said Andy McConnell. “I haven’t had to pay a dime for
oil since I bought it.”
Owners also praised the high safety rating of the cars.
The company is rolling out two new models, an SUV-style vehicle and a sedan
at a lower price point. The company has started its own battery factory as
part of the strategy to lower the price for the new model.
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Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'...
Regarding trucks, Steve and Audrey at Green Shed conversions have done Class 8 semi tractors they demonstrate the feasibility, IIRC, the latest was for delivery service, in the city with 50 miles of range. But, like buses they can carry a large battery pack. Dennis Lee Miles (*evprofes...@evprofessor.com evprofes...@evprofessor.com)* * Founder:**EV Tech. Institute Inc.* *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913 (12 noon to 12 midnight Eastern US Time)* *Educating yourself, does not mean you were **stupid; it means, you are intelligent enough, **to know, that there is plenty left to learn!* * You Tube Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss * *NEW You Tube Video link: *http://youtu. be/Pz9-TZtySh8 http://youtu.%20be/Pz9-TZtySh8 On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: http://www.networkrail.co.uk/news/2013/aug/We-are-developing-a-prototype-battery-powered-train/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140816/9cc39a1f/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Is your EV doing enough?
On 14-08-16 12:50 AM, Mike Scott via EV wrote: I just got the 2014 though, with the tiny little badge... If you really want the bigger badge you can probably go to the dealer and order one. -- *Paul Wujek* ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Is your EV doing enough?
On 8/16/14, 5:44 AM, Paul Wujek via EV wrote: On 14-08-16 12:50 AM, Mike Scott via EV wrote: I just got the 2014 though, with the tiny little badge... If you really want the bigger badge you can probably go to the dealer and order one. Or, get some custom made vinyl that screams ELECTRIC, as I did. I'll be putting it on once I fix the paint. :) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'...
I would think overhead catenary lines would actually be cheaper, and one could do that study without building a prototype... On Aug 15, 2014, at 3:06 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: http://www.networkrail.co.uk/news/2013/aug/We-are-developing-a-prototype-battery-powered-train/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -
Try an IR-Blue, I have one, and have used it at varying distances. https://www.google.com/search?q=ir-blue On August 16, 2014 2:13:23 AM CDT, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Dan, You should check the instructions for the laser thermometer - I expect that, like mine, it recommends a maximum reading distance (from object of interest to instrument) in single figure inches! MW On 15 Aug 2014, at 02:32, Michael Ross via EV wrote: I am with Jan. The laser thermometers are averaging over the whole patch you see lit up and they are not hugely accurate because of it. If the patch is larger from being farther away or not circular because it is on an angle - it will not report what you are hoping for. They are best for shining inside a uniform container, oven, furnace, etc. Or if at a wall, then you need to take a series of readings. Imagine on one terminal you slide off to one side and average in some temperature from the top of the battery case. Or you have to get very close to one and far from another, and so on. Can you share what make and model of thermometer you are using? Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:21 PM, David Nelson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: If this is a change then I would investigate. I have had my pack in for over 4 years and have not had the issue you and others have had and my pack isn't exactly closed to moisture and dust. I have 40 TS-LFP100AHA cells in a 2p20s arrangement. Because the BMS I used to use attached to the heads of the terminal bolts I used brass bolts since they are much easier to drill and tap threads in. This also meant that I could assemble the pack and torque the bolts independent of the BMS connections so they could not interfere with any connections. Before assembling my pack I wire brushed all the terminals to shine them up. I did this with NOALOX on the terminals and SS wire brush so that the NOALOX would seal the metal as soon as possible. I also tapped all the terminal holes again, using NOALOX on the tap though this was probably way overkill. I did find some terminals that didn't get tapped all the way down. I then put NOALOX on the bolt threads before assembling. This was mostly so that the soft Al and Cu terminals wouldn't gall up at all. I used bronze lock washers, too. I have had no terminals come loose or get warm. Some may say that what I did was a waste of time but they can't counter the results. It just works and I'm glad. LiFePO4 has been much simpler than lead acid in many ways. If I were you I would clean all the terminals using a similar process. If I were to do it over, and I have on small 4-8 cell packs, I would use NO-OX-ID A SPECIAL because it doesn't seem to get sticky over time like the NOALOX does. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Danpatgal via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I am using 38x130 ah CALBs in my Lectric Leopard and have had a too hot ( 40C) warning on my BMS come on a few times in the last month or so. Today, after a longer stretch of accelerating uphill to home, I checked some of the battery posts. Measuring with a laser sensor, several of them were around 33C , in a grouping, maybe 6 or 8 posts adjacent on the most positive side of my pack. Posts just a few cells more negative were much cooler, maybe around 26C or cooler. I checked the bolts to make sure they were tight, and didn't notice any real problem with the connections being loose. My only other thought is that perhaps (as has been discussed in other threads), these connections have corroded over time ... adding a little resistance layer (I didn't initially polish or use Noalox on those) that is now finally heating up. I am also using the original copper straps with steels M8 bolts. Are others noticing this kind of heat with the lithium cell terminals? Aside from just cleaning the terminals and putting on some Noalox, might there be other things to do? I installed these in Sep. 2012, so they are not quite two years in service. Thanks - Dan ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140816/bd59f6e5/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -
Danpatgal via EV wrote: I have on my to-do list to clean up the connections. With the BMS modules on there it's just a pain and I have to be very careful (I know - if I had done it at the beginning ...). You can measure the resistance of the connections without taking them apart. Then only clean the ones that have a higher-than-normal resistance. All you need is a normal multimeter and a source of a known current (like your charger). The technique has been described many times on the EVDL. It must be in the archives somewhere. Before I type it all in yet again, maybe we can find it? -- You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -- R. Buckminster Fuller -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'...
I can remember streetcars using the catenary wires for power then rubber tires busses with limited lane changing capability using catenary wires in Pittsburgh, PA in the mid 1950`s. Dennis Lee Miles (*evprofes...@evprofessor.com evprofes...@evprofessor.com)* * Founder:**EV Tech. Institute Inc.* *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913 (12 noon to 12 midnight Eastern US Time)* *Educating yourself, does not mean you were **stupid; it means, you are intelligent enough, **to know, that there is plenty left to learn!* * You Tube Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss * *NEW You Tube Video link: *http://youtu. be/Pz9-TZtySh8 http://youtu.%20be/Pz9-TZtySh8 On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Ben Apollonio via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I would think overhead catenary lines would actually be cheaper, and one could do that study without building a prototype... On Aug 15, 2014, at 3:06 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: http://www.networkrail.co.uk/news/2013/aug/We-are-developing-a-prototype-battery-powered-train/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140816/08f55e9c/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'...
They are alive and well in Boston (with picture): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybuses_in_Greater_Boston On 8/16/2014 3:42 PM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: I can remember streetcars using the catenary wires for power then rubber tires busses with limited lane changing capability using catenary wires in Pittsburgh, PA in the mid 1950`s. Dennis Lee Miles (*evprofes...@evprofessor.com evprofes...@evprofessor.com)* * Founder:**EV Tech. Institute Inc.* *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913 (12 noon to 12 midnight Eastern US Time)* *Educating yourself, does not mean you were **stupid; it means, you are intelligent enough, **to know, that there is plenty left to learn!* * You Tube Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss * *NEW You Tube Video link: *http://youtu. be/Pz9-TZtySh8 http://youtu.%20be/Pz9-TZtySh8 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'...
Ditto for Seattle. In Seattle, the current fleet will be replaced next year with models having regen and extra battery capacity to allow running disconnected. That will make them even more of an EV than before! It's true that with trolley lines, the routes are fairly fixed. However the buses are quite maneuverable and can span three lanes with one set of wires, although it's usually just two. I'm hoping someday that, using quick charging, buses can be fully charged at each end of their routes making it practical to eliminate the use of diesel buses. And to do so without overhead wires. Peri -- Original Message -- From: Peter Eckhoff via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Dennis Miles dmiles33...@gmail.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 16-Aug-14 1:50:16 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'... They are alive and well in Boston (with picture): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybuses_in_Greater_Boston On 8/16/2014 3:42 PM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: I can remember streetcars using the catenary wires for power then rubber tires busses with limited lane changing capability using catenary wires in Pittsburgh, PA in the mid 1950`s. Dennis Lee Miles (*evprofes...@evprofessor.com evprofes...@evprofessor.com)* * Founder: **EV Tech. Institute Inc.* *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913 (12 noon to 12 midnight Eastern US Time)* *Educating yourself, does not mean you were **stupid; it means, you are intelligent enough, **to know, that there is plenty left to learn!* * You Tube Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss * * NEW You Tube Video link: *http://youtu. be/Pz9-TZtySh8 http://youtu.%20be/Pz9-TZtySh8 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -
On 16 Aug 2014 at 14:04, Lee Hart via EV wrote: The technique has been described many times on the EVDL. It must be in the archives somewhere. Before I type it all in yet again, maybe we can find it? Here's one method. http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble-td4657626|a4657642 Just to be clear, he means you should measure voltage drop across the intercell link cable or strap, NOT across the cell or battery itself! I usually measure the voltage drop from the center of the battery post to the clamp itself. That's easy with lead batteries - there's lots of post area for contact. I don't know whether that's the case with your lithium cells. But the principle remains - pass a known current through the connection and measure the voltage drop. Calculate the resistance (if you care) with Ohm's law. Or just look for connections with exceptionally high voltage drop. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -
From: Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org You can measure the resistance of the connections without taking them apart... All you need is a normal multimeter and a source of a known current (like your charger)... The technique has been described many times on the EVDL... Pump a fixed known current through the battery, and measure the voltage drop between the terminal and the post. Set your DVM to the lowest range, where you can measure millivolts. If you pump the current through your entire pack, you can quickly move post-to-post, checking them all. Call out the millivolt drop to an assistant for recording. Nothing wastes more energy than worrying. The longer one carries a problem, the heavier it gets. Don't take things too seriously. Live a life of serenity, not a life of regrets. -- Douglass Pagels Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
