[EVDL] EVLN: ReVolt electric delivery drone vessel for sea voyages (video)

2014-09-21 Thread brucedp5 via EV


Rolls-Royce Unmanned Cargo e-Ships

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/12/6139855/this-ship-is-a-delivery-drone-for-the-open-sea
This ship is a delivery drone for the open sea
By Russell Brandom  September 12, 2014

[video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAXgKjDRqcA
ReVolt - An unmanned, battery-powered ship concept 
gCaptain.com Sep 11, 2014 
World's largest classification society DNV GL has released details of a new
concept ship design for the short sea shipping market which is battery
powered, highly efficient, and, get this, unmanned.


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ReVolt
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Amazon got the biggest headlines for its drone delivery plans, but it's an
idea that's catching on across the shipping industry. At a nautical trade
fair in Hamburg this week, the shipping research firm DNV GL revealed
designs for a new electric vessel that would ferry cargo with zero crew
members — roughly the nautical equivalent of Amazon's automated delivery
drones. Dubbed ReVolt, the concept ship is designed for short sea voyages,
carrying up to 100 standard TEU containers at a relatively slow 6 knots. But
because the ReVolt has no crew, it doesn't need living quarters or safety
equipment, resulting in a much more efficient trip between ports.

It's still just a concept vessel, but vessels like the ReVolt could make a
huge difference in how we move goods around the world. More than 9 billion
tons of cargo moved through ports in 2012, leaving a huge market if
automated vessels like the ReVolt are adopted. According to DNV GL, there
will be real benefits for firms who do. Because of low maintenance costs,
the company estimates the ReVolt would save more than a million dollars a
year compared with shipping the same goods on conventional diesel ships.
[© 2014 Vox Media]



http://gcaptain.com/dnv-gl-short-sea-ship-of-the-future-is-unmanned/
DNV GL’s Short Sea Ship of the Future is Unmanned
By Mike Schuler On September 11, 2014

[image  / courtesy DNV GL
http://gcaptain.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/unnamed-1.jpg
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World’s largest classification society DNV GL has released details of a new
concept ship design for the short sea shipping market which is battery
powered, highly efficient, and, you guessed it, unmanned.

Details of the “ReVolt” concept were released this week at SMM Hamburg, one
of the world’s leading maritime trade fairs. DNV GL says the ReVolt is a
vessel that is greener, smarter and safer than conventionally fueled and
operated vessels, offering a possible solution to the growing needs of
marine transport.

Instead of using diesel fuel or even LNG, ReVolt is fully powered by a 3000
kWh battery, thus reducing operating costs by minimizing the number of high
maintenance parts such as rotational components. DNV GL says that, at least
in concept, the vessel has a range of 100 nautical miles before a recharge
is needed and if the energy required is harnessed from renewable sources,
this would eliminate carbon dioxide emissions.

The ReVolt could achieve even greater efficiency by slowing to an average
operating speed 6 knots, leading to less water resistance compared to
traditional vessels, which usually travel at about 8.7 knots, DNV GL says.
The slower speed allowed DNV GL engineers to fit the concept with a straight
vertical bow, further reducing water resistance along the ship’s entire
profile and ultimately saving energy.

In order to tackle one of the shipping industries’ “weakest links”, safety
will be enhanced through an autonomous navigation system that requires no
crew, and therefore eliminates the risk of human error and makes the concept
more cost-efficient to operate. DNV GL says that with an average of 900
fatalities per year, the mortality rate in shipping is 90 percent higher
than in comparable land-based industries, primarily due to the human factor
when it comes to accidents.

With no crew, there is also no need for crew facilities such as the
superstructure, DNV GL says. This results in an increase in loading capacity
and low operating and maintenance costs. Compared to a diesel-run ship, DNV
GL says that ReVolt could save up to 34 Million USD during its estimated
30-year-life-time.

DNV GL notes that while the ReVolt concept ship is currently still being
tested and will not be built until all the required technologies have
matured, it should serve as example of what is conceivably possibly given
today’s technology and what could also be in store for the future.

“Building and operating this vessel would be possible with today’s
technology,” says Hans Anton Tvete, Senior Researcher at DNV GL. “‘ReVolt’
is intended to serve as inspiration for equipment makers, ship yards and
ship owners to develop new solutions on the path to a safe and sustainable
future.”
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[EVDL] EVLN: Kiwi's DIY EV save$ money planet NZ$1/50km

2014-09-21 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/10503986/Inventor-joins-climate-change-drive
Inventor joins climate change drive
CHARLOTTE SQUIRE  16/09/2014

[images  / CHARLOTTE SQUIRE/FAIRFAX NZ
http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1410826345/012/10504012.jpg
NEW GENERATION: Golden Bay inventor Albie Burgers’ 1988 Daihatsu Charade is
100 per cent electric powered and costs $2/100km to run. 

http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1410826406/016/10504016.jpg
RECHARGEABLE: The electric car is run on lithium batteries.
]

DIY electric car saves money, planet

 Albie Burgers' electric car can travel 50 kilometres and cost him $1. 

 His car and other alternatively-powered vehicles will be appearing at the
first People's Climate Drive and Car Rally, which is pushing international
mobilisation for climate change, this Sunday in Golden Bay. 

 The converted 1988 Daihatsu Charade is eerily silent to drive. 

 Burgers, who is known as an inventor in Golden Bay, recharges it with his
own solar panels. 

 It cost him and his wife, Fill, $10,000 to buy and upgrade the car,
although he said he bought it for mate's rates from his nephew, Anthony
Field, who is also an alternative power enthusiast. 

 Warranted and registered, the couple use their electric car to zip around
town, in Takaka. 

 One issue that some electric car consumers face is range anxiety, the
concern that one's car could run out of power at any moment. 

 Burgers said it was a good idea to plot friends' houses along your journey,
in case your car needed a charged. 

 Though he is excited about his new mode of transport he says it's not the
way of the future but of indulgence because electric bikes are better. 

 He sees road congestion as a significant issue yet to be overcome. 

 He bought the Daihatsu already converted by an engineer but had to invest
$5000 in new rechargeable lithium batteries. 

 He said a car could be converted using a kit, though handy man skills
were needed. 

 It's a bit geeky at the moment, converting a car by yourself. 

 Albie and Fill dream of a slow tiki tour around New Zealand in their silent
car, stopping at friends' houses to charge up. 

 The People's Climate Drive and Car Rally will be on this Sunday, September
21, starting at 10 am at the Takaka library car park. It finishes at the
Mussel Inn in Onekaka. 

 Organiser Kevin Durkan is expecting a range of car owners to attend the
hybrid/electric car rally.
[© 2014 Fairfax New Zealand]




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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £75k York.uk 1st converted double-decker sightseeing ebus (video)

2014-09-21 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
Yes - your maths is better than mine!

We have a very convoluted attitude to units.  We decimalised in the 70's but it 
only really took for money.  Ever since we have painfully slowly been moving 
over to everything else.  So, the weather man mostly talks about Celsius (but 
occasionally throws in a few imperial references to keep the older viewers 
happy).  Distances are still almost 100% in miles (sign posts etc).  Petrol is 
now virtually 100% metric.  Food is mostly metric except for markets who seem 
to be able to switch according to the customer's needs (but the law says it 
must be displayed and weighed metrically - still have people being arrested for 
doing it imperially!)  Cookery has gone over, too (thank goodness - what the 
blazes is a 'cup'?!... except we still use teaspoons and tablespoons liberally, 
though they have an accepted precise decimal equivalent - 5  10ml resp).  
Rather off topic!  MW


On 21 Sep 2014, at 00:21, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 On 20 Sep 2014 at 11:21, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote:
 
 133kW LiFePO4 pack ... I'm a bit confused as to why it only gets 70
 miles or so range if it does 0.67 miles per kWh... 
 
 
 Let's see, 0.67 * 133 = 89 miles.  70 / 89 = 0.79.  So that 70 miles would 
 be roughly 80% of the theoretical maximum range.  Sounds to me as if - for 
 once - they're quoting the usable range, not the drop-dead maximum.  If so, 
 I say bravo.
 
 PS - UK measures range in miles, not KM?
 
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Amazon Google autonomous flying delivery e-drones

2014-09-21 Thread Terry Forfa via EV

Delivery e-drones smacks of Big Brother taking control over the masses

Mark my words, Delivery Drones will someday deliver more than online 
purchases on you.


I think they will be fueled with malicious intent.

Terry



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On 20 Sep 2014 at 2:06, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

Talking about the droneTMs design, Google says it has 1.5m wingspan and 
four

electric propellers which help it in driving.


This piece is rather vague. I get the distinct impression that the 
writer's

native language isn't English.  So when he says electric propellers does
he really mean that the drone's fuel is electricity?  I looked at several
other web articles on this.  Oddly, none of them even mentions how the 
drone

is fueled.

I'm no expert, but I would think that a craft like that would have pretty
limited range and/or payload if it had to carry all its energy in a 
battery.

I wonder if it might be something more like this.

http://gizmodo.com/this-hybrid-quadcopter-drone-can-take-off-and-land-vert-
1177032394

http://tinyurl.com/l95usya

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Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

2014-09-21 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I think you're fighting a losing battle.  Different alloys have an
influence, but not enough to overcome the fact that copper has roughly
twice the conductivity (both electrical and thermal) of aluminum.  You'll
need twice the cross-sectional area in aluminum as you would need with
copper to achieve similar performance.  Your 1.75 inch test shows a lack of
proportionality, but that's likely due to short straps and how the current
flows locally from the bolted joint.

I'm thinking your best bet is to use copper conductors and be very sure all
connections are thoroughly greased (Noalox, Vaseline, whatever) to ensure
all moisture is excluded from the joint.  And I would re-grease them once a
year.

Chris

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 2:54 AM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 I thought folks would like to hear the results of some of my testing.

 1/2 inch smashed copper pipe, 200 Amps for a 2S2P pack of 8 Ahr P (for
 Power) Headway cells: Things stayed cool.

 1/2 inch by 0.02 inch braided strap with smashed copper pipe at
 connections: 5 F rise in 90 seconds at 200 A

 1/2 inch by 0.01 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 200F in about 15 seconds! This was
 done in the oxidized state.

 1/2 inch by 0.01 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 200F in about 15 seconds! This was
 done with sanding and immediate Noalox.

 1.75 inch by 0.02 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 160F in about 30 seconds.

 The Al performed way worse than theory predicted, then I think I figured
 it out. Al roof flashing from Home Depot is apparently not a very
 conductive alloy of Al. I'd guess better Al would perform much closer to Cu.
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £75k York.uk 1st converted double-decker sightseeing ebus (video)

2014-09-21 Thread Russ Sciville via EV
Mark,
For goodness sake you forgot to include that us Brits (including Scots thank 
goodness) still drink pints of wonderfully warm hand pumped real ale.

Sorry all, still off topic.

Russ :-)

On Sun, 21/9/14, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £75k York.uk 1st converted double-decker sightseeing 
ebus (video)
 To: EVDL Administrator evp...@drmm.net, EVDL Post Message 
ev@lists.evdl.org
 Date: Sunday, 21 September, 2014, 9:25
 
 Yes - your maths is
 better than mine!
 
 We have a
 very convoluted attitude to units.  We decimalised in the
 70's but it only really took for money.  Ever since we
 have painfully slowly been moving over to everything else. 
 So, the weather man mostly talks about Celsius (but
 occasionally throws in a few imperial references to keep the
 older viewers happy).  Distances are still almost 100% in
 miles (sign posts etc).  Petrol is now virtually 100%
 metric.  Food is mostly metric except for markets who seem
 to be able to switch according to the customer's needs
 (but the law says it must be displayed and weighed
 metrically - still have people being arrested for doing it
 imperially!)  Cookery has gone over, too (thank goodness -
 what the blazes is a 'cup'?!... except we still use
 teaspoons and tablespoons liberally, though they have an
 accepted precise decimal equivalent - 5  10ml resp). 
 Rather off topic!  MW
 
 
 On 21 Sep 2014, at 00:21, EVDL Administrator
 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
 wrote:
 
  On 20 Sep 2014
 at 11:21, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote:
 
 
  133kW LiFePO4 pack ... I'm a
 bit confused as to why it only gets 70
  miles or so range if it does 0.67
 miles per kWh... 
  
  
  Let's see, 0.67
 * 133 = 89 miles.  70 / 89 = 0.79.  So that 70 miles would
 
  be roughly 80% of the theoretical
 maximum range.  Sounds to me as if - for 
  once - they're quoting the usable
 range, not the drop-dead maximum.  If so, 
  I say bravo.
  
  PS - UK measures
 range in miles, not KM?
  
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Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

2014-09-21 Thread via EV
I might well be fighting a losing battle, but for the price of 4 holes in a 
strip of material it has been a great education.
 
Tonight I tested the different alloys of Al idea.

Last time, 0.02 x 1.75 in strip of roof flashing aluminum:
~120 F temperature rise in ~15 seconds, cross sectional area 0.036 in^2
 
Tonight: 0.1 in diameter aluminum welding filler rod
~30 F temperature rise in ~90 seconds, cross sectional area 0.016 in^2

I was rather impressed that  1/2 the area had ~1/4 the temperature rise! My 
guess is the welding rod is a more conductive Al alloy than the roof flashing 
is the big difference.

Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM
From: Chris Tromley ctrom...@gmail.com
To: evdragra...@email.com, Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
ev@lists.evdl.org
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

I think you're fighting a losing battle.  Different alloys have an influence, 
but not enough to overcome the fact that copper has roughly twice the 
conductivity (both electrical and thermal) of aluminum.  You'll need twice the 
cross-sectional area in aluminum as you would need with copper to achieve 
similar performance.  Your 1.75 inch test shows a lack of proportionality, but 
that's likely due to short straps and how the current flows locally from the 
bolted joint.
 
I'm thinking your best bet is to use copper conductors and be very sure all 
connections are thoroughly greased (Noalox, Vaseline, whatever) to ensure all 
moisture is excluded from the joint.  And I would re-grease them once a year.
 
Chris
 
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 2:54 AM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:I thought 
folks would like to hear the results of some of my testing.

1/2 inch smashed copper pipe, 200 Amps for a 2S2P pack of 8 Ahr P (for 
Power) Headway cells: Things stayed cool.

1/2 inch by 0.02 inch braided strap with smashed copper pipe at connections: 5 
F rise in 90 seconds at 200 A

1/2 inch by 0.01 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 200F in about 15 seconds! This was done 
in the oxidized state.

1/2 inch by 0.01 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 200F in about 15 seconds! This was done 
with sanding and immediate Noalox.

1.75 inch by 0.02 inch Al: 200A, 80F to 160F in about 30 seconds.

The Al performed way worse than theory predicted, then I think I figured it 
out. Al roof flashing from Home Depot is apparently not a very conductive alloy 
of Al. I'd guess better Al would perform much closer to Cu.
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Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

2014-09-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV

via EV wrote:

I might well be fighting a losing battle, but for the price of 4 holes in a 
strip of material it has been a great education.

Tonight I tested the different alloys of Al idea.

Last time, 0.02 x 1.75 in strip of roof flashing aluminum:
~120 F temperature rise in ~15 seconds, cross sectional area 0.036 in^2

Tonight: 0.1 in diameter aluminum welding filler rod
~30 F temperature rise in ~90 seconds, cross sectional area 0.016 in^2

I was rather impressed that  1/2 the area had ~1/4 the temperature rise! My 
guess is the welding rod is a more conductive Al alloy than the roof flashing is 
the big difference.


Great to see some actual test results!

A quick comment: Pure metals are much more conductive than alloys. Most 
hardware store structural aluminum is going to be some alloy -- not what 
you want as an electrical conductor! Look up the conductivity of the 
various aluminum alloys and you'll see what I mean.


Get some PURE aluminum to test. If you have to get it at Home Depot, 
then buy some aluminum *wire* and spread out the strands to make a flat 
strip.


There are also aluminum solders. They actually work pretty well. You 
could place a bunch of strands of aluminum wire next to each other to 
make a flat bar, wrap a thin piece of aluminum flashing around them to 
hold them in position, and then solder them together at the ends. Drill 
a hole in the ends of the bar, and you have a high conductivity (yet 
somewhat flexible) inter-cell jumper.

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