Re: [EVDL] EV emission limits
Don't forget that engineers find ways to make decent antennas many times smaller than actual wavelength. For example by folding or by creating resonant loops. Often this happens by accident. A small dc-dc converter running below 1MHz but where caps are placed slightly too far from the chip and connected by too long traces, so suddenly you see a very strong emission at 800 MHz for example With a cat it is very easy to make a resonant loop with the motor or battery wiring, fast switching transistors and (stray) capacitance. Cor. On Nov 28, 2018 8:02 AM, "Lee Hart via EV" wrote: Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Looks like EVs and hybrids get an exemption from RF emission limist of the > FCC’s part-15 limits. > > Looks like one could bulid a 1 MHz transmitter right in the middle of the > AM broadcast band and run it at 50,000 watts from an EV battery and not > violate part-15 limits! (exemption #1 and #8 and #10!) An EV can easily have a 50,000 watt controller. They generally switch at 15 KHz or so; not 1 MHz. But the harmonics can easily extend up into the broadcast band. If the wiring is done badly enough, it can produce a substantial amount of power in the AM broadcast band. The "saving grace" is that a car is too small to have a decent antenna at these frequencies. The wavelength at 1 MHz is 300 meters. This severely limits the range of the noise that an EV could radiate. -- Obsolete (Ob-so-LETE). Adjective. 1. Something that is simple, reliable, straightforward, readily available, easy to use, and affordable. 2. Not what the salesman wants you to buy. -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20181128/1a4d4dec/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] MORE RIVIAN News
From "CHARGED" ev magazine ( https://chargedevs.com/newswire/rivian-reveals-impressive-electric-pickup-truck-and-suv/ ) -- Steven S Lough PRESIDENT EMERITUS Seattle EV Association Web: www.seattleeva.org 206 524 1351 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: stevenslough.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 4 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20181128/6d5a889a/attachment.vcf> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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But facebook.com/letsoggo/ sez their service is available. So, either their
website is out of date, or the reporter got it wrong. At the bottom of the
page offers EV driver jobs
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people get a ride from Point A to Point B.
Oggo is a service that uses electric cars [
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] to move people around downtown Cincinnati, Newport and Covington,
Kentucky.
The service launched in early November with five electric cars and 12
drivers.
- Free ride because of in-car and out-of-car sponsors
- Immersive in car app allows riders to check out hot spots, other items
- Riders have no obligation to sponsors
Did we mention the ride is free?
Oggo secures deals with sponsors for both inside and outside the vehicle.
The company was founded by three friends Dustin Grutza, Michael Palmer, and
Joe Creighton.
The three have invested their own funds into getting the company off the
ground.
It works similar to ride-sharing services Uber and Lyft, except that part we
mentioned earlier – it's free. An Oggo app user hails a ride at their
location, enters a destination, and waits for the driver.
The electric cars are climate controlled and have large windows for optimal
viewing. The electric cars are wrapped in the sponsor's logo and another app
inside the car allows for an immersive experience, if the rider desires.
“We're not trying to do stuff that's invasive or overbearing,” Palmer told
Spectrum News 1.
If a ride wants to interact with the app, they may find certain hot spots
around downtown or a place to grab lunch.
“By adding that extra layer we wanted to be a full service for people,”
Grutza said. “They have a true concierge to show them around.”
In addition to the app, the electric car driver is knowledgable about city
history, destination hotspots, and other information that may be useful to a
local and certainly to a tourist.
“The pride we have in Cincinnati, we wanted Oggo to be this thing that when
people came in from out of town that this is really cool and Cincinnati has
it going on,” Creighton said.
Creighton's experience as a business owner allows him to understand the
needs of businesses around downtown Cincinnati [
https://www.downtowncincinnati.com/
]. Palmer knows that the ecosystem of the Oggo brand, the electric car, and
the sponsors can be whatever people want it to be.
“We care about our brand,” Palmer said. “We really really care about our
community.”
Eventually, riders may get incentive from sponsors in the form of coupons
and admission deals to various Cincy attractions.
For now, Oggo has five electric cars and 12 drivers who operate the vehicles
from 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. Sunday through Thursday and 11 a.m. to midnight
Friday and Saturday.
Grutza, Palmer, and Creighton worked with city officials on a Cincinnati
ordinance for the proper safety and operation of the vehicles. The low-speed
electric cars are fully equipped with seat belts and lights and can travel
on most roadways.
While the Oggo ride is free, Grutz, Palmer, and Creighton encourage tipping
drivers which can be done through the Oggo app.
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Re: [EVDL] EV emission limits
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Looks like EVs and hybrids get an exemption from RF emission limist of the FCC’s part-15 limits. Looks like one could bulid a 1 MHz transmitter right in the middle of the AM broadcast band and run it at 50,000 watts from an EV battery and not violate part-15 limits! (exemption #1 and #8 and #10!) An EV can easily have a 50,000 watt controller. They generally switch at 15 KHz or so; not 1 MHz. But the harmonics can easily extend up into the broadcast band. If the wiring is done badly enough, it can produce a substantial amount of power in the AM broadcast band. The "saving grace" is that a car is too small to have a decent antenna at these frequencies. The wavelength at 1 MHz is 300 meters. This severely limits the range of the noise that an EV could radiate. -- Obsolete (Ob-so-LETE). Adjective. 1. Something that is simple, reliable, straightforward, readily available, easy to use, and affordable. 2. Not what the salesman wants you to buy. -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EV emission limits
Looks like EVs and hybrids get an exemption from RF emission limist of the FCC’s part-15 limits. Looks like one could bulid a 1 MHz transmitter right in the middle of the AM broadcast band and run it at 50,000 watts from an EV battery and not violate part-15 limits! (exemption #1 and #8 and #10!) Bob, WB4APR *From:* Ev Tupis via aprssig *Subject:* Re: [aprssig] OT: Part 15 / Electric Vehicles Electric Vehicles and Hybrids are exempt from Part 15 compliance. I'm trying to understand the basis for the RFI issues at-play. See the list of top ten part-15 exemptions: https://emcfastpass.com/could-your-product-be-exempt-from-emc-testing-altogether/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20181128/3db56836/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] ?Will GM, Ford buyouts, cuts, layoffs affect EV production?
More on this - from the Wall Street Journal. Production of the Bolt will increase, due to demand. They’ve sold 11,800. It’s the lowest selling of their showroom models. Production of the Volt will stop in the spring. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Nov 22, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Mark Abramowitz wrote: > > Why would it affect EV production? > > These are white collar jobs, and happening specifically so that they can > focus on EV development, at least according to the article. > > I don’t understand your confusion. > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > >> On Nov 22, 2018, at 9:04 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >> >> >> >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/11/19/general-motors-buyout-layoffs/2061291002/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories >> General Motors buyouts likely to fall short and layoffs loom >> Nov. 19, 2018 Jamie L. LaReau, Detroit Free Press >> >> General Motors is offering voluntary buyouts to 18,000 workers. >> >> General Motors hoped at least 7,000 white-collar workers would sign up by >> noon Monday for a buyout offer, but managers told employees last week that >> it was likely to fall short, raising the prospect of significant layoffs. >> >> The number volunteering for the offer is likely be closer to 4,000 based on >> estimates by an actuary, some GM employees said managers told them. >> >> That means 3,000 or more salaried workers in North America could be >> terminated starting in January if the automaker in fact opts for forced job >> cuts, which it has said it would consider if buyouts fell short. >> >> That's the message some GM managers gave salaried workers during department >> meetings held Thursday and Friday of last week, several employees who >> attended the meetings told The Detroit Free Press. The meetings were an >> 11th-hour attempt to help employees with 12 or more years at GM decide >> whether they want to take a voluntary buyout. >> >> GM employees who talked to the Press did so on condition of anonymity >> because their jobs are at risk. >> >> More: GM memo: We must cut costs, can't wait to see what happens in >> industry[ >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/11/03/general-motors-memo-buyout/1859186002/ >> ] >> >> More: GM offers buyouts to 18,000 salaried workers, says layoffs possible [ >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/10/31/gm-buyouts-salaried-workers/1831530002/ >> ] >> >> The meetings were presented as informational and GM managers told employees, >> "Nobody’s under pressure to sign up or fear they’ll be threatened with >> firing or termination if they don’t sign up," said a former senior-level GM >> manager who spoke with several employees who attended the meetings. >> >> “GM (leaders) haven’t decided what they’re going to do if there is a >> shortfall – if they don’t hit 7,000," the source said. "They said they may >> start the process in mid-January for involuntary releases.” >> >> A GM spokesman would not confirm that date or that GM would pursue >> involuntary cuts. He said he was not aware of any company-wide meetings last >> week. If there were meetings, they would have been staff by staff, he said. >> He also said he was not aware of any figures or targets the company has set >> or would share with workers. >> >> GM has said it must trim costs amid the rising prices of raw materials and >> plateauing car sales. So on Oct. 31, GM CEO Mary Barra sent an email to all >> 50,000 salaried GM employees in North America saying the automaker is >> offering voluntary buyouts to the 17,700 salaried employees who have 12 >> years or more with GM. Most global executives are also eligible. >> >> GM has said if it cannot achieve enough cost savings between the buyouts and >> other cost-cutting measures, it might consider involuntary job cuts after >> the first of the year. >> >> One adviser who has been working with several GM employees and managers said >> the process of selecting the voluntary and involuntary job cuts will happen >> quickly. >> >> “GM will complete the voluntary buyouts by Nov. 29. The managers we’ve >> talked to are already making their list and will select their cuts in >> January,” said the adviser, who did not want to compromise his clients’ >> identities by having his name published. >> >> He said on Jan. 15 GM will announce the involuntary job eliminations and >> “walk people out.” >> >> The buyout packages include six months pay and six months of health care >> coverage, the GM spokesman confirmed. Those who opt to take the buyout have >> until the end of the year to continue with GM, with severance effective Jan. >> 1. >> >> The six-month pay and six-month health care is the same severance a GM >> employee with 12 years or more experience would receive if they were >> involuntarily terminated, GM employees said. That's why some inside the >> company say interest i
