Re: [EVDL] Possibly use as a Pack->AC inverter?
A lot of the larger UPS are kind of pricey, and you won't find many that will do split phase. I got a steal on Ebay for $500. I had to set up a switch to break my 320V pack in the middle, and a small DPST contactor to parallel the two half packs at 160V. That works out to 12 batteries at 13.3V each and works fine. If you have a ~400V pack (typical of a lot production cars) that could be split to 200V which should work well with a UPS designed for 16 12V batteries (192V). Al On 6/19/2019 10:45 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Wed Jun 19 18:32:46 PDT 2019 ev@lists.evdl.org said: How would you hold it at 60Hz? How would you hold the output voltage steady with varying loads? It is a VFD, so it at least holds the frequency steady at whatever you set it to. Hopefully there is some voltage regulation as well. I'm mainly wondering if it requires the inductance of a motor on the output for it to work. I wouldn't chance it. Use a proper device like a UPS. I use a 3KW split phase pure sine wave output UPS to run my whole house. It was made to run on 12 12V batteries, I see a lot of them made for 16 12V batteries. And what is the price of that unit? -- Worlds only All Electric F-250 truck! http://john.casadelgato.com/Electric-Vehicles/1995-Ford-F-250 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] BMW 2002 with Leaf drive train.
I think they are going in the wrong direction not using the whole Leaf wiring harness but it's not my car. Lawrence Rhodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc_w5Du_jf4 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190620/d4f6efb5/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] VW shorty bus with Leaf drive train
I would not shorten the already short bus but It's not my vehicle. Lawrence Rhodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y94ndeNQHU -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190620/1c41552c/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Design News: Mainstream Automakers Embark on the Big Move to Battery-Electrics
May I introduce you to Plugshare? /snark I bought a Tesla primarily because I **could** go cross-country and not have to really worry about where to recharge. I might have to go to an RV campground for a few hours at 25 miles per hour of recharging but RV campgrounds are numerous and I will likely have to pay more per kwhr because of "campground fees". I might have to stay an extra night in a motel somewhere with the car plugged into a Level 2 charger but overall, I think I could do it and not get stuck without a kwhr to my name. Yellowstone now has recharge spots in the park. They are Wall and Nema 14-50's. The towns of West Yellowstone and Jackson WY each have a Level 3 as well as towns and cities to the north of the park. Last year, I would have had to leave the park to find a recharging spot. This year, maybe not. The Supercharger stations are all along the Interstate System at about 100 to 150 mile intervals and will soon be across North Dakota and southern Canada. There are very few spots where I would be out of range of a Level 3 recharging station along the US Interstate system. That leaves the areas between the Interstate stations. SW Kansas is one of those spots where it is 347 miles between Hayes KS and Amarillo, TX. There wasn't a Level 3 somewhere in between those two cities several months ago but I now see where a Hampton Inn in Liberal, KS has installed 4 Tesla recharging stations at 16 amps while the J1772's are at 32 amps. A Model 3 owner had no problems when asking the motel staff for permission to recharge. Liberal KS is about the half way point. As time goes on, I'm seeing fewer and fewer problems driving cross-country in an EV. With the big automakers ramping up EV plans and development, one of those plans will likely be how to address the availability of CCS/SAE charging stations paralleling the Tesla Supercharger network. When they have a plan in place, you will then know that EVs have "arrived". On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:17 AM paul dove via EV wrote: > > One thing led to this Tesla Model 3 auto sales. Problem is there is still a > problem driving any of these cars on a trip. Nowhere to charge it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 20, 2019, at 7:24 AM, moskowitz via EV wrote: > > > > https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/mainstream-automakers-embark-on-big-move-battery-electrics/94422093060984 > > - > > > > Mainstream Automakers Embark on the Big Move to Battery-Electrics > > > > Despite anemic sales and despite losing money on every battery-electric > > vehicle they sell, mainstream automakers are forging ahead. Here’s why, and > > here’s what’s needed for them to be successful. > > > > By: [Charles Murray](https://www.designnews.com/author/charles-murray) > > > > [Electronics & Test](https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test) > > > > [Automotive](https://www.designnews.com/automotive-0) > > > > June 18, 2019 > > > > [Photo] Later this year, Ford is expected to unveil a Mustang-inspired > > crossover with an all-electric range of 300-plus miles. (Image source: Ford > > Motor Co.) > > > > After more than a century of rejecting battery-powered cars, mainstream > > automakers are finally changing their minds. > > > > This year, they’re debuting some of the best battery-electric vehicles > > (BEV) in their history. The cars are big and visually appealing; feature > > long-range batteries; and come in popular form factors – crossovers and > > SUVs. In short, they’re built to sell. And their underlying message is > > clear: These aren’t your regulator’s electric cars. > > > > Moreover, the new breed of battery-electrics is being developed by some of > > the global industry’s most established, mainstream names. In the first half > > of 2019 alone, Audi, Hyundai, Jaguar, Kia, and Nissan debuted new BEVs with > > 200-plus-mile ranges. Later this year, Porsche will deliver a 600-HP, > > all-electric luxury vehicle. And Ford Motor Co. will reveal an electric, > > Mustang-inspired crossover that Ford chairman William Clay Ford has said > > will “go like hell.” > > > > And the trend will extend well beyond 2019. General Motors has said it will > > introduce more than 20 new BEVs over the next few years, including a > > battery-powered Cadillac. And Fiat Chrysler is planning to offer four new > > electric Jeeps, while Ford is working on an all-electric version of the > > F-150 pickup. Meanwhile, Volkswagen is said to be investing $50 billion in > > electrification technology. > > > > All in all, it amounts to a bonanza of BEVs. “It’s still a small fraction > > of the market,” said Sam Abuelsamid, principal analyst for Navigant > > Research. “But it’s definitely growing fast.” > > > > Even as the market grows, however, mainstream manufacturers have a quiet > > but very real concern – the consumer. “The auto companies want to be > > committed, and they think what they’re doing is a good idea,” noted Mike > > Ramsey, senior director
[EVDL] Leaf drive train in various vehicles.
Seems to me with so many totaled EV's their working batteries and drive train would be perfect in so many legacy vehicles. Notably adapting the FWD to RWD. OLD VW BUS with same Curb weight as the Leaf. Seems all that is needed is a place to bolt/adapt in the motor and a way do adapt the axles.This way CHademo or CCS would be available in OEM style. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190620/5567c2a0/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Design News: Mainstream Automakers Embark on the Big Move to Battery-Electrics
On 6/20/19 7:33 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: One thing led to this Tesla Model 3 auto sales. Problem is there is still a problem driving any of these cars on a trip. Nowhere to charge it. I searched long and hard for mention of Tesla in that article. Finally found it. They very much minimized Tesla's role in the EV shift. Also, I believe not mentioned, is that Tesla is 4-5 YEARS ahead of the "competition" they do mention prominently. A real SuperCharger challenger is years away. Range competition seems years away. Efficiency rivals seem years away. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Design News: Mainstream Automakers Embark on the Big Move to Battery-Electrics
One thing led to this Tesla Model 3 auto sales. Problem is there is still a problem driving any of these cars on a trip. Nowhere to charge it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 20, 2019, at 7:24 AM, moskowitz via EV wrote: > > https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/mainstream-automakers-embark-on-big-move-battery-electrics/94422093060984 > - > > Mainstream Automakers Embark on the Big Move to Battery-Electrics > > Despite anemic sales and despite losing money on every battery-electric > vehicle they sell, mainstream automakers are forging ahead. Here’s why, and > here’s what’s needed for them to be successful. > > By: [Charles Murray](https://www.designnews.com/author/charles-murray) > > [Electronics & Test](https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test) > > [Automotive](https://www.designnews.com/automotive-0) > > June 18, 2019 > > [Photo] Later this year, Ford is expected to unveil a Mustang-inspired > crossover with an all-electric range of 300-plus miles. (Image source: Ford > Motor Co.) > > After more than a century of rejecting battery-powered cars, mainstream > automakers are finally changing their minds. > > This year, they’re debuting some of the best battery-electric vehicles (BEV) > in their history. The cars are big and visually appealing; feature long-range > batteries; and come in popular form factors – crossovers and SUVs. In short, > they’re built to sell. And their underlying message is clear: These aren’t > your regulator’s electric cars. > > Moreover, the new breed of battery-electrics is being developed by some of > the global industry’s most established, mainstream names. In the first half > of 2019 alone, Audi, Hyundai, Jaguar, Kia, and Nissan debuted new BEVs with > 200-plus-mile ranges. Later this year, Porsche will deliver a 600-HP, > all-electric luxury vehicle. And Ford Motor Co. will reveal an electric, > Mustang-inspired crossover that Ford chairman William Clay Ford has said will > “go like hell.” > > And the trend will extend well beyond 2019. General Motors has said it will > introduce more than 20 new BEVs over the next few years, including a > battery-powered Cadillac. And Fiat Chrysler is planning to offer four new > electric Jeeps, while Ford is working on an all-electric version of the F-150 > pickup. Meanwhile, Volkswagen is said to be investing $50 billion in > electrification technology. > > All in all, it amounts to a bonanza of BEVs. “It’s still a small fraction of > the market,” said Sam Abuelsamid, principal analyst for Navigant Research. > “But it’s definitely growing fast.” > > Even as the market grows, however, mainstream manufacturers have a quiet but > very real concern – the consumer. “The auto companies want to be committed, > and they think what they’re doing is a good idea,” noted Mike Ramsey, senior > director and automotive analyst for Gartner, Inc. “But they definitely need > to see some market pull.” > > Indeed, there’s still reason for concern on that front, despite the rollout > of so many products. Last year’s US BEV sales amounted to only about 1.5% of > the market, mostly because the vehicle prices are still higher than those of > comparable gas-burning cars. > > And that’s frightening for automakers who have already poured billions of > dollars into development of new BEVs. Many fear they will over-produce. They > imagine parking lots full of unsold, deeply-discounted, electric cars – and > deep financial losses. > > For mainstream automakers, it’s a risk they take as they dive head-long into > the electric fray. And they know it. “There is no demand,” one automotive > OEM, who preferred to remain anonymous, lamented to Design News . > > Still, it’s the reality. “The customer is in charge of the game,” noted David > Cole, chairman emeritus of the Center for Automotive Research and a 60-year > veteran of the auto industry. “And no one knows what the customer will do.” > > The Reasons Why > > A confluence of factors – including global competition, government > regulations, and falling battery prices – have brought mainstream automakers > to this juncture. > > It’s a juncture that many automakers couldn’t have imagined a decade ago. > Most had been more notable for their tepid acceptance of battery-electric > vehicles and, in some cases, outright refusal to build or sell them. > > But for almost every mainstream manufacturer today, regulations have become a > forcing factor. In the US, California and 14 other states have taken the > lead, calling on automakers to hit prescribed percentages of zero emission > vehicles (ZEV). If they don’t, there are penalties to be paid in the form of > ZEV credits. Such credits can cost tens of millions of dollars, and end up > getting paid to competitors, which most manufacturers are loathe to do. > > Then there’s the global market. Most observers say the global market is the > biggest motivator of all. At least 17 countries have
[EVDL] Design News: Mainstream Automakers Embark on the Big Move to Battery-Electrics
https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/mainstream-automakers-embark-on-big-move-battery-electrics/94422093060984 - Mainstream Automakers Embark on the Big Move to Battery-Electrics Despite anemic sales and despite losing money on every battery-electric vehicle they sell, mainstream automakers are forging ahead. Here’s why, and here’s what’s needed for them to be successful. By: [Charles Murray](https://www.designnews.com/author/charles-murray) [Electronics & Test](https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test) [Automotive](https://www.designnews.com/automotive-0) June 18, 2019 [Photo] Later this year, Ford is expected to unveil a Mustang-inspired crossover with an all-electric range of 300-plus miles. (Image source: Ford Motor Co.) After more than a century of rejecting battery-powered cars, mainstream automakers are finally changing their minds. This year, they’re debuting some of the best battery-electric vehicles (BEV) in their history. The cars are big and visually appealing; feature long-range batteries; and come in popular form factors – crossovers and SUVs. In short, they’re built to sell. And their underlying message is clear: These aren’t your regulator’s electric cars. Moreover, the new breed of battery-electrics is being developed by some of the global industry’s most established, mainstream names. In the first half of 2019 alone, Audi, Hyundai, Jaguar, Kia, and Nissan debuted new BEVs with 200-plus-mile ranges. Later this year, Porsche will deliver a 600-HP, all-electric luxury vehicle. And Ford Motor Co. will reveal an electric, Mustang-inspired crossover that Ford chairman William Clay Ford has said will “go like hell.” And the trend will extend well beyond 2019. General Motors has said it will introduce more than 20 new BEVs over the next few years, including a battery-powered Cadillac. And Fiat Chrysler is planning to offer four new electric Jeeps, while Ford is working on an all-electric version of the F-150 pickup. Meanwhile, Volkswagen is said to be investing $50 billion in electrification technology. All in all, it amounts to a bonanza of BEVs. “It’s still a small fraction of the market,” said Sam Abuelsamid, principal analyst for Navigant Research. “But it’s definitely growing fast.” Even as the market grows, however, mainstream manufacturers have a quiet but very real concern – the consumer. “The auto companies want to be committed, and they think what they’re doing is a good idea,” noted Mike Ramsey, senior director and automotive analyst for Gartner, Inc. “But they definitely need to see some market pull.” Indeed, there’s still reason for concern on that front, despite the rollout of so many products. Last year’s US BEV sales amounted to only about 1.5% of the market, mostly because the vehicle prices are still higher than those of comparable gas-burning cars. And that’s frightening for automakers who have already poured billions of dollars into development of new BEVs. Many fear they will over-produce. They imagine parking lots full of unsold, deeply-discounted, electric cars – and deep financial losses. For mainstream automakers, it’s a risk they take as they dive head-long into the electric fray. And they know it. “There is no demand,” one automotive OEM, who preferred to remain anonymous, lamented to Design News . Still, it’s the reality. “The customer is in charge of the game,” noted David Cole, chairman emeritus of the Center for Automotive Research and a 60-year veteran of the auto industry. “And no one knows what the customer will do.” The Reasons Why A confluence of factors – including global competition, government regulations, and falling battery prices – have brought mainstream automakers to this juncture. It’s a juncture that many automakers couldn’t have imagined a decade ago. Most had been more notable for their tepid acceptance of battery-electric vehicles and, in some cases, outright refusal to build or sell them. But for almost every mainstream manufacturer today, regulations have become a forcing factor. In the US, California and 14 other states have taken the lead, calling on automakers to hit prescribed percentages of zero emission vehicles (ZEV). If they don’t, there are penalties to be paid in the form of ZEV credits. Such credits can cost tens of millions of dollars, and end up getting paid to competitors, which most manufacturers are loathe to do. Then there’s the global market. Most observers say the global market is the biggest motivator of all. At least 17 countries have announced plans to ban internal combustion engines in city centers, mostly between 2030 and 2040. And China has made battery-electric vehicles a national priority, even going so far as to require that customers enter a lottery in order to get a license for a new car with an internal combustion engine. For automakers, the handwriting is on the global wall. “When you’ve got Europe and China and California
[EVDL] ALAMEDA-CA utility increases work/home EVSE purchase-rebates 7/1
http://alamedamp.com/2019-news/1484-amp-increases-cash-amounts-for-electric-vehicle-charger-rebates
AMP Increases Cash Amounts for Electric Vehicle Charger Rebates
June 17, 2019
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 17, 2019
AMP Increases Cash Amounts for Electric Vehicle Charger Rebates
ALAMEDA, CA – Alameda Municipal Power (AMP) is increasing its cash rebates
for electric vehicle (EV) drivers who install charging stations at their
homes. The new incentives are part of an overall initiative to make driving
electric vehicles a more viable choice for Alamedans and reduce greenhouse
gas emissions.
Under the new residential charger rebate program available on July 1,
Alamedans can receive a rebate of up to $800 toward the purchase of a level
2 charger and any electric upgrades and permitting needed to install the
charger. That’s up from the $500 rebate that AMP currently provides.
AMP has also increased its electric vehicle charger rebates for businesses,
multifamily dwellings, and public agencies. When non-residential customers
purchase level 2 chargers for the workplace, their residents or for their
customers, they are now eligible for up to a $5,000 rebate per charger -- up
from $3,000 -- to be applied toward the cost of the charger and related
expenses for electric upgrades and permitting.
AMP funds the rebates through low-carbon fuel standard (LCFS) funds. The
state’s LCFS program aims to lower greenhouse gas emissions and promote
clean fuels and electric vehicles.Visit www.alamedamp.com for more
information on AMP’s electric vehicle charger rebates.Visit
https://alameda.dsmtracker.com/ for more information on AMP’s electric
vehicle charger rebates.
About AMP
Alameda Municipal Power (AMP) is a department of the city of Alameda that
has served residents and businesses for 132 years. AMP provides power to
more than 34,000 customers at rates that average 17 percent below
neighboring communities.
Contact: Kathleen Haley
Alameda Municipal Power
Office: 510-814-6430
Email: haley @alamedamp.com
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+ (special Nevada HOV laws tough on EVs)
Be ready, HOV lane enforcement starts Thursday
...Not allowed... — Electric cars, unless with two occupants, as per Nevada
law ... HOV system includes the addition of carpool lanes on Interstate 15
between Silverado Ranch Boulevard and the Spaghetti Bowl, linking to the
lanes on U.S. Highway 95 from the Spaghetti Bowl to Elkhorn Drive in the
northwest valley. The two freeways’ carpool lanes are linked via an
81-foot-tall, 2,600-foot-long HOV flyover bridge ...
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[EVDL] Spider-Man to drive an e-tron(turd)
https://electrek.co/2019/06/19/audi-electric-car-e-tron-spider-man-movie-product-placement/
Audi expands movie product placement of electric cars, e-tron will be in new
Spider-Man
Jun. 19th 2019 Fred Lambert
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Audi Presents: Science Fair
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Audi is advertising the e-tron electric SUV right at a gas station in
Hollywood #smart @AudiOfficial
4:45 PM - Jun 8, 2019
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Audi, one of the rare automakers investing heavily in advertising electric
vehicles, is expanding its movie product placement of electric cars with an
e-tron appearance in the new Spider-Man movie.
Earlier this year, Marvel Studios’ “Avengers: Endgame” featured the
all-electric Audi e-tron Sportback concept and the Audi e-tron GT concept in
product placement.
The experience wasn’t exactly flawless as the studio ended up adding gas
engine sound to Audi’s electric e-tron, but they are nonetheless moving
forward with another placement.
The German automaker partnered with Sony Pictures Entertainment on the next
Spider-Man movie:
“Audi vehicle placement in “Spider-Man: Far From Home” includes the
all-electric Audi e-tron and the all-new Audi A7 and Audi Q8. Audi vehicles
will also make an appearance at the “Spider-Man: Far From Home” Hollywood
premiere this summer.”
Sven Schuwirth, Head of Brand Audi, Digital Business and Customer Experience
at Audi, said about the announcement:
“Teaming up with Sony Studios gives us an ideal opportunity to stage Audi´s
electric offensive in a spectacular environment and to customize this
important technology for a highly engaged audience. Therefore product
placement plays a significant role in our new brand strategy.“
On top of the product placement in the movie, they have also produced a
digital short titled “Science Fair” featuring Peter Parker (Tom Holland),
his best friend Ned (Jacob Batalon), and the Audi e-tron GT concept:
Electrek’s Take
As usual, I like to commend Audi for being amongst a select few automakers
to put real money behind advertising and promoting electric vehicles.
However, I feel like they are often missing the mark on the actual
advertising.
The engine noise in the Avenger movie is an obvious one, but I also don’t
understand this digital short – you can bring an electric car to a science
fair as your own project?
Either way, the e-tron GT concept looks incredible so there’s that.
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étron.fr = POS : Turds
Feb 04, 2019
+ (PV.au charge-amps.com Aura EVSE.se @T2-22kW 100kmh)
https://onestepoffthegrid.com.au/victorian-school-trials-solar-powered-ev-charging-eyes-off-grid-future/
Victorian school trials solar powered EV charging, eyes off-grid future
June 18, 2019 The electric vehicle charger is part of a pilot being run by
the Beaconhills College ... dual port 22kW Aura charger ... ability to
charge 2 electric vehicles at a rate of up to 100km per hour ... and is
powered off a 100kW solar system ...
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