[EVDL] dup: Alameda folds> CA-Tesla champions reopening, TX-gov talks move +

2020-05-13 Thread evln via EV
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Re: [EVDL] 3people rescued from inside after EV power failure

2020-05-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
From: paul dove
>I remember when I went to test drive a Prius. The salesman couldn’t get the 
>door open because the 12v battery was dead and the battery was under the back 
>seat. They had to get the mechanics to break in to the vehicle. 


That's funny! The salesman didn't know that there's a physical key inside the 
fob, which will unlock the doors, dead battery or not.

But then, our Toyota "stealership" has also come up with all sorts of nonsense 
about the Prius.

Lee Hart


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Re: [EVDL] 3people rescued from inside after EV power failure

2020-05-13 Thread paul dove via EV
I remember when I went to test drive a Prius. The salesman couldn’t get the 
door open because the 12v battery was dead and the battery was under the back 
seat. They had to get the mechanics to break in to the vehicle. 

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> On May 13, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Peter VanDerWal via EV  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow, that seems like a really bad (and dangerous) design.
> 
>> https://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/18443907.three-people-rescued-electric-car-helmsley-power-fails
>> Three people rescued from electric car after power failure
>> May 12, 2020 THREE people had to be rescued from an electric car after a
>> power failure. Fire crews were called out in Helmsley just before noon
>> yesterday (Monday) after reports the trio were trapped inside the vehicle.
>> Crews gained access to the owner's premises to retrieve spare key to let the
>> occupants out ...
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[EVDL] Tesla-3 app locks EV-jacker inside =citizen's-arrest

2020-05-13 Thread Mark Laity-Snyder via EV
Now this story makes more sense because the car jacker  would not necessarily 
know how to get out of a Tesla.  Shame on the owner of the EV that couldn't get 
out when power died for not knowing how to get out of their own car in that 
situation.  It just makes EVs look bad.  As opposed to this story which makes 
Tesla's look Bad ASS!


https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-3-carjacking-locks-app/
Tesla Model 3 owner locks carjacking suspect inside with app
May 13, 2020  Connected vehicle technology 1, carjacking 0. Thanks to
technology, one fewer carjacking took place. In a wild form of 21st-century
citizen's arrest ...
https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/IOyp0Td2TMWMPW64MzLH2cnNJnU=/2018/09/09/9c7e68d5-bcf1-4246-9072-784ee374b149/2018-tesla-model-3-ogi-1.jpg



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[EVDL] Tesla-3 app locks EV-jacker inside =citizen's-arrest

2020-05-13 Thread evln via EV



https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-3-carjacking-locks-app/
Tesla Model 3 owner locks carjacking suspect inside with app
May 13, 2020  Connected vehicle technology 1, carjacking 0. Thanks to
technology, one fewer carjacking took place. In a wild form of 21st-century
citizen's arrest ...
https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/IOyp0Td2TMWMPW64MzLH2cnNJnU=/2018/09/09/9c7e68d5-bcf1-4246-9072-784ee374b149/2018-tesla-model-3-ogi-1.jpg


+ (bulletproof Tesla)
https://gaadiwaadi.com/this-armored-tesla-model-s-is-fastest-bulletproof-car-in-the-world/
This Armored Tesla Model S Is Fastest Bulletproof Car In The World
May 13, 2020 ... Armormax released a 2018 Tesla Model S P100D that can go
from zero to 96 kmph in just 2.4 seconds with synthetic fiber laminate
armoring and it became the fastest road-going bulletproof car in the world
upon its debut ...
https://gaadiwaadi.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Tesla-Armored-Model-S-P100D-1-5-1068x712.jpg




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Re: [EVDL] 3people rescued from inside after EV power failure

2020-05-13 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I know Tesla's have a button that is normally used to open the door, but 
if power is removed you have to use a (different) manual actuator. In 
some of their designs it's not terribly obvious where to pull if the 
button doesn't work, so if somebody skipped that part of the manual they 
can get into trouble...



But that story was terribly lite on details

Jay

On 5/13/20 12:43 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

  The whole story is not being told. 12v battery failure? Not enough knowledge 
of door handles and manual locks? Lawrence Rhodes
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Re: [EVDL] FW: EnergyObserver's First Transatlantic Passage a Complete Success ...

2020-05-13 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> From: paul dove mailto:dov...@bellsouth.net>>
> 
> The Space Shuttle had a Fuel Cell… Yes, it is inefficient, but it does make 
> long distance travel
> carbon free

I’d agree with POTENTIALLY carbon-free.

But almost all hydrogen produced these days comes from natgas, which, despite 
considerable green-washing, is a big emitter of both carbon and methane, if you 
count drilling to combustion.

Jan

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Re: [EVDL] 3people rescued from inside after EV power failure

2020-05-13 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
 The whole story is not being told. 12v battery failure? Not enough knowledge 
of door handles and manual locks? Lawrence Rhodes  
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Re: [EVDL] 3people rescued from inside after EV power failure

2020-05-13 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Wow, that seems like a really bad (and dangerous) design.

> https://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/18443907.three-people-rescued-electric-car-helmsley-power-fails
> Three people rescued from electric car after power failure
> May 12, 2020 THREE people had to be rescued from an electric car after a
> power failure. Fire crews were called out in Helmsley just before noon
> yesterday (Monday) after reports the trio were trapped inside the vehicle.
> Crews gained access to the owner's premises to retrieve spare key to let the
> occupants out ...
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