[EVDL] Rivian sued4 poaching employees trade secrets (v)
https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-lawsuit-rivian-automotive-allegedly-stealing-trade-secrets-former-employees-1519886
Tesla Accuses Electric Vehicle Rival Rivian of Stealing
Trade Secrets
2020/07/23 ... A lawsuit filed by Elon Musk's electric car firm Tesla has
accused startup Rivian Automotive of poaching employees and stealing trade
secrets. In the complaint ... (video flash)
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https://cleantechnica.com/2020/07/23/tesla-cries-foul-sues-rivian-for-stealing-employees-trade-secrets/
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https://electrek.co/2020/07/23/tesla-new-cars-compact-electric-car-musk/
Tesla plans two new electric cars after Cybertruck ...
2020/07/23 ... Musk said Tesla will design an electric car in China for the
global market, and it released a design drawing that showed a compact car
... a California official behind a new transit project said that Tesla is
making a 12-passenger electric van for the Boring Company. ... I wouldn't be
surprised if those new vehicle programs are farther along than Elon is
leading us to believe with his comments. For the compact carr, Tesla has
publicly started taking design submissions ...
https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/07/Tesla-Cybertruck-and-Roadster-e1595479876541.jpg
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https://www.inverse.com/innovation/tesla-elon-musk-teases-two-new-electric-vehicles
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[EVDL] ice crashes into DC EVSE> Where NOT to install EVSE (v)
% Never install DC EVSE along busy street> best a carpark %
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18599412.car-collides-electric-car-charging-point-ashley-road-poole/
Car crashes with electric car charging point in Ashley Road, Poole
22nd July 2020 RESIDENTS are demanding action after a car crashed into
barriers surrounding an electric car charging point for the third time.
Police were called to Ashley Road in Poole just after 10.30pm on Tuesday
following a report of a single vehicle collision. The local authority was
asked to attend due to debris on the road ... Resident Micky Corby-Grace
said she was disturbed by a loud bang and fears there will be another,
potentially more serious, collision at the site ... "This charging point is
never used yet there have been three crashes already. It is frightening to
hear such a loud bang and I'm worried that next time the charging point
could be hit and someone could be seriously hurt.
... I hope the council will now consider moving the charging point."
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+ (vw-pr> free2use Tesco .uk public EVSE)
https://eastdevonnews.co.uk/2020/07/09/honiton-supermarket-tesco-installs-free-charge-points-for-electric-cars/
Honiton supermarket installs new charge points where electric car drivers
can top up for free
9th July 2020 ... Electric car owners in Honiton can now charge their
vehicles for free at the town's Tesco superstore. Volkswagen and Tesco have
partnered to provide the largest retail electric vehicle charging network in
the UK, giving motorists a place to top up their cars while doing their
shopping ...
https://eastdevonnews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/charge-top.jpg
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Re: [EVDL] California News Release: Additional Electric Vehicle Charging Stations Now Available at State Highway Rest Areas on the Central Coast
The big deal about this is that CalTrans allowed these to go into rest stops. Quite an accomplishment. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Jul 23, 2020, at 6:06 PM, cleanair--- via EV wrote: > > Always nice to see more charging infrastructure go live in California. > Danny Ames > > Stations Now Available at State Highway Rest Areas on the Central Coast Date: > July 3, 2020 District 5 – Central Coast > > Additional Electric Vehicle Charging Stations Now Available at State Highway > Rest Areas on the Central Coast. > > MONTEREY/SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY – A solar-powered direct current > fast-charging electric vehicle charging station has been installed at the > Shandon Rest Area near Highway 46 East in San Luis Obispo County, in addition > to two stations that were activated last fall at the US 101 Camp Roberts Rest > Area in southern Monterey County. > > > > “With more than 650,000 zero-emission vehicles on the road in California, the > installation of these stations at strategic locations along the state highway > system will allow the public to travel with greater ease, convenience and > zero tail-pipe emissions,” said Caltrans Director Toks Omishakin. > > > > These locations were selected to encourage longer travel trips by electric > vehicles in remote rural areas. Charging is free to the public in 30-minute > increments. > > > > The Camp Roberts and Shandon ChargePoint Express 250 charging stations are > powered by the EV ARC™ system which combines sun-tracking solar power > generation with battery storage to provide energy for electric vehicles. It > can charge day or night and during inclement weather. Commonly used cables > and connectors for electric vehicles are available, and Tesla drivers can > also use the stations if they carry an adapter. EV motorists can check > availability of the stations through ChargePoint and Plug Share smartphone > apps. > > > > This EV ARC™ system generates and stores electricity, allowing emergency > responders to use these facilities to obtain emergency power in the event of > an earthquake, wildfire or other disaster. > > > > The Camp Roberts facility was funded by the Monterey Bay Air Resources > District (MBARD) at a cost of $1.4 million which includes long-term system > maintenance. > > > > “MBARD is pleased to partner with Caltrans District 5 on this unique electric > vehicle infrastructure project which makes DC charging available at the Camp > Roberts and Shandon Rest Areas. These strategic locations on US 101 and > Highway 46 East fill a gap in the network of charging stations along these > important corridors. By funding the installation of fast charging stations, > MBARD promotes the adoption of fully electric vehicles,” said MBARD Air > Pollution Control Officer Richard A. Stedman. > > > > The Shandon Rest Area charging station was completed with funding > contributions from the San Luis Obispo County Air Pollution Control District > as part of a larger $2 million project executed by the Hoseley Corporation of > San Francisco, California. > > > > For more information on this project and for traffic updates on other > Caltrans projects, travelers may call the District 5 toll free number at > (831) 372-0862 or visit our website. > > > > > > > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.
From: EVDL Administrator via EV > Lawrence, you really seem to be pining for a Stella Lux... It's clearly > a technical tour de force, and I'd love to see it go into to production. > However, I doubt very much that you or I will ever be able to buy one, > or anything similar. I agree with David, though not quite a stridently. After all, bicycles did take over in the 1890's world of horses and carriages. They were a highly disruptive technology that nevertheless took hold. I could also point at the Swiss Twike; another highly efficient but very strange and expensive EV that nevertheless found its way to market. Maybe some niche will be found for the Stella Lux. Maybe in some country other than the US, which seems to be stuck in the last century. Lee Hart -- Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James -- Lee A. Hart http://www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] California News Release: Additional Electric Vehicle Charging Stations Now Available at State Highway Rest Areas on the Central Coast
Always nice to see more charging infrastructure go live in California. Danny Ames Stations Now Available at State Highway Rest Areas on the Central Coast Date: July 3, 2020 District 5 – Central Coast Additional Electric Vehicle Charging Stations Now Available at State Highway Rest Areas on the Central Coast. MONTEREY/SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY – A solar-powered direct current fast-charging electric vehicle charging station has been installed at the Shandon Rest Area near Highway 46 East in San Luis Obispo County, in addition to two stations that were activated last fall at the US 101 Camp Roberts Rest Area in southern Monterey County. “With more than 650,000 zero-emission vehicles on the road in California, the installation of these stations at strategic locations along the state highway system will allow the public to travel with greater ease, convenience and zero tail-pipe emissions,” said Caltrans Director Toks Omishakin. These locations were selected to encourage longer travel trips by electric vehicles in remote rural areas. Charging is free to the public in 30-minute increments. The Camp Roberts and Shandon ChargePoint Express 250 charging stations are powered by the EV ARC™ system which combines sun-tracking solar power generation with battery storage to provide energy for electric vehicles. It can charge day or night and during inclement weather. Commonly used cables and connectors for electric vehicles are available, and Tesla drivers can also use the stations if they carry an adapter. EV motorists can check availability of the stations through ChargePoint and Plug Share smartphone apps. This EV ARC™ system generates and stores electricity, allowing emergency responders to use these facilities to obtain emergency power in the event of an earthquake, wildfire or other disaster. The Camp Roberts facility was funded by the Monterey Bay Air Resources District (MBARD) at a cost of $1.4 million which includes long-term system maintenance. “MBARD is pleased to partner with Caltrans District 5 on this unique electric vehicle infrastructure project which makes DC charging available at the Camp Roberts and Shandon Rest Areas. These strategic locations on US 101 and Highway 46 East fill a gap in the network of charging stations along these important corridors. By funding the installation of fast charging stations, MBARD promotes the adoption of fully electric vehicles,” said MBARD Air Pollution Control Officer Richard A. Stedman. The Shandon Rest Area charging station was completed with funding contributions from the San Luis Obispo County Air Pollution Control District as part of a larger $2 million project executed by the Hoseley Corporation of San Francisco, California. For more information on this project and for traffic updates on other Caltrans projects, travelers may call the District 5 toll free number at (831) 372-0862 or visit our website. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.
I generally agree with David on the points below, but could think of a
few ways the Stella Lux could be brought to market:
1) A niche/specialty product, sold to a small number of (rich) early
adopters willing to pay $100,000 for a super environmental (and
exclusive) vehicle.
2) If Tesla (or any other automaker) wanted to, I think they could
manufacture and sell a very similar product at scale ("Tesla Lite") for
$35,000-$45,000. (All it would take is a way to mass-produce the carbon
fiber body with integrated solar cells, everything else in the vehicle
is COTS.)
However, Tesla is already selling the base model 3 in that price range,
and combined with the supercharger network, it is more capable, safer,
and has better performance than the Lux.
Jay
On 7/23/20 8:25 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
Lawrence, you really seem to be pining for a Stella Lux. I've lost count of
how many times you've brought it up. Not that there's anything wrong with
that, mind you.
It's clearly a technical tour de force, and I'd love to see it go into to
production. However, I doubt very much that you or I will ever be able to
buy one, or anything similar.
Vehicle buyers' habits have been carefully sculpted over the last century,
especially the last 40 years, and those habits are the exact antithsis of a
funky-looking car with racing seat belts and a solar skin. It would take a
gargantuan advertising and PR blitz to develop any significant demand.
Then the vehicle itself, being so different from the mainstream, would need
years or maybe decades of subsidies from governments and the vehicle maker
itself before it could amortize its design costs and achieve economy of
scale. That's not going to happen in our libertarian capitalist system.
Governments are too intent on cutting rich folks' taxes to spend that way,
and a vehicle maker who carried a money-loser for that long would face a
stockholder revolt.
Someone with a Bezos- or Gates-size fortune might be able to do it, but Elon
Musk notwithstanding, people like that don't usually have enough interest in
EVs to put a big part of their fortune into one.
I just don't see a business case for a vehicle like the Stella Lux. I wish
I did. But the landscape is already littered with hundreds of brilliant EV
ideas that should have made production and couldn't get there, from the
Aptera to the Solectria Sunrise.
I think that if you want a Stella Lux or something similar, you're going to
have to build it yourself from scratch.
Or maybe you could hire a couple members of the Stella team to build you
one, if you have something close to Elon Musk's fortune. :-\
Or just do the sensible thing, and put the bloody PV on your house's roof.
That way it gets more sun more of the time, and you don't have to haul it
around on the car when it's not producing any significant energy.
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Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.
Lawrence, you really seem to be pining for a Stella Lux. I've lost count of how many times you've brought it up. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you. It's clearly a technical tour de force, and I'd love to see it go into to production. However, I doubt very much that you or I will ever be able to buy one, or anything similar. Vehicle buyers' habits have been carefully sculpted over the last century, especially the last 40 years, and those habits are the exact antithsis of a funky-looking car with racing seat belts and a solar skin. It would take a gargantuan advertising and PR blitz to develop any significant demand. Then the vehicle itself, being so different from the mainstream, would need years or maybe decades of subsidies from governments and the vehicle maker itself before it could amortize its design costs and achieve economy of scale. That's not going to happen in our libertarian capitalist system. Governments are too intent on cutting rich folks' taxes to spend that way, and a vehicle maker who carried a money-loser for that long would face a stockholder revolt. Someone with a Bezos- or Gates-size fortune might be able to do it, but Elon Musk notwithstanding, people like that don't usually have enough interest in EVs to put a big part of their fortune into one. I just don't see a business case for a vehicle like the Stella Lux. I wish I did. But the landscape is already littered with hundreds of brilliant EV ideas that should have made production and couldn't get there, from the Aptera to the Solectria Sunrise. I think that if you want a Stella Lux or something similar, you're going to have to build it yourself from scratch. Or maybe you could hire a couple members of the Stella team to build you one, if you have something close to Elon Musk's fortune. :-\ Or just do the sensible thing, and put the bloody PV on your house's roof. That way it gets more sun more of the time, and you don't have to haul it around on the car when it's not producing any significant energy. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $40k Nissan Ariya fwd .jp EV r:300mi
Hmmm. This is just physics. I worked on chargers and charging software. Most LiIon charge algorithms usw CC/CV where in the beginning the current is set to the maximum the battery can handle. When the maximum voltage is reached the control changes to constant voltage mode where the current is lowered to maintain the voltage. You can set a power supply to constant voltage and hook it up to a li Ion battery and it will behave the same way. Nothing special except where you set the CV limit too. On Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 7:32:44 PM CDT, Michael Ross via EV wrote: The positive electrode becomes very reactive at near fully charged and this damages the electrolyte. As mentioned charging the last bit is a slow process. So Tesla limits the charging to extend battery life and to make charging to "100%" faster. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 5:23 PM Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: > Are you sure about that? Rapid Charging LiIon typically slows down as you > near full charge. > > July 22, 2020 9:41 AM, "Willie via EV" wrote: > > > On 7/22/20 12:21 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > > >> On Wed Jul 22 08:33:19 PDT 2020 dov...@bellsouth.net said: > >>> At any rate Tesla doesn't let you use the whole battery anyway even at > 100% charged it is not > >>> because they gave people temporary range increases during the Florida > Hurricane. > >> > >> Did they need to do more charging to get that extra range? or if their > car was already fully > >> charged, did it just have extra range? > >> The former means the reduced range is the bottom of the pack, the > latter means it's the top. > > > > I haven't used a car with a software limited battery but, as I > > understand, the battery is just not allowed to fully charge. One > > benefit, observed and reported by many, is that SuperCharging goes MUCH > > faster near the top. With a not limited battery, one rarely has the > > patience to fully charge at a SuperCharger because it tapers to just a > > few kw near the top. A second touted benefit of limited batteries is > > that they have longer life. > > > > ___ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200722/e1a3d60f/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200723/773c57bd/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Faking out your EV so it will accept solar input while driving.
Commercially available Sunpower cells. Panels will not work. https://sinovoltaics.com/technology/stella-lux-winner-of-world-solar-challenge-visits-shanghai/ The cells are tightly spaced and the car is designed to be a platform for the cells. It is also more aerodynamic than any sedan or hatch back. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200723/e2861ebf/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $40k Nissan Ariya fwd .jp EV r:300mi
Michael Ross via EV wrote: I always thought they took the buffer from both the high and low ends of SOC%. You don't want to totally deplete or charge a pack to get the longest life from it. I agree. We know that cells are damaged by either over-charging or under-charging. We also know that they are never perfectly matched or balanced. So the sensible thing to do is use only the "middle" range, like 20-80%, or 10-90% SOC (depending on how conservative you want to be). Lee Hart -- If happiness is on your mind, here's a daily list to find: - something to do - something to look forward to - someone to love - someone to take good care of - and misbehave, just a little -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $40k Nissan Ariya fwd .jp EV r:300mi
I always thought they took the buffer from both the high and low ends of SOC%. You don't want to totally deplete or charge a pack to get the longest life from it. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 10:43 PM Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: > It is interesting. I never thought about whether Tesla took the software > limited part of the charge from the top or the bottom of the battery pack. > I'm sure glad that I normally charge to only 85% and rarely take the > battery pack below 30%. > BobK > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 11:58 AM Willie via EV wrote: > > > > > On 7/22/20 12:21 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > > On Wed Jul 22 08:33:19 PDT 2020 dov...@bellsouth.net said: > > >> At any rate Tesla doesn't let you use the whole battery anyway even at > > 100% charged it is not because they gave people temporary range increases > > during the Florida Hurricane. > > > Did they need to do more charging to get that extra range? or if their > > car was already fully charged, did it just have extra range? > > > The former means the reduced range is the bottom of the pack, the > latter > > means it's the top. > > > > I haven't used a car with a software limited battery but, as I > > understand, the battery is just not allowed to fully charge. One > > benefit, observed and reported by many, is that SuperCharging goes MUCH > > faster near the top. With a not limited battery, one rarely has the > > patience to fully charge at a SuperCharger because it tapers to just a > > few kw near the top. A second touted benefit of limited batteries is > > that they have longer life. > > > > > > > > ___ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200722/3751925e/attachment.html > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200723/3cb56714/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
