Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 89, Issue 2

[Glenn Van Vlemen via EV]

Fred,

I think Elon has mentioned platooning in his trucking benefits under
potential automation. Benefits up to 35% increased efficiency??

Regards



On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 09:13, fred via EV  wrote:

>
>
>   The post about drafting a semi-trailer rig to make range hit home for
> me. When I was a young foolish motorcyclist in New England, during the
> winter, doing just that made temperatures more tolerable. Later years,
> pedaling a velomobile behind a construction crane at 35 mph was a real
> blast. What better draft could a human powered vehicle ask for than an
> eight foot wide, ten foot tall rolling air dam?
> For the EV world, I'm surprised Mr. Musk hasn't come up with EV programmed
> platooning. Put a Tesla semi on the road to make money, then link a convoy
> of other Tesla vehicles with V2V networking and let the lead monster triple
> the range of the conga line.
> I'd thought about this in years long past that manufacturers should have
> put railway type couplings at a uniform height, with data communications.
> Get on the highway, ease up behind a train of ICEs (back then) and clunk
> into the coupling. Additional dashboard devices would warn the next in line
> if a middle car wanted to pull off on a siding, waking up the driver in
> time to rejoin to the lead rigs.
> Elon, are you listening?
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 2use in VT: buying a used EV ...

[Glenn Van Vlemen via EV]

Thanks.
Australia is a different situation with EVs than other countries. We don’t
have incentives that create a stronger market for them. So uptake has been
relatively slow.
Zoe only released last year and too early for used examples yet.
Import rule changes now allow Nissan leafs to come in from Japan which is
providing supply but of the older models and more expensive than some of
the prices we see talked about in the US.
It appears to be a waiting game in Australia. Let early adopters buy the
expensive (relative) first vehicles and suffer the depreciation and
teething issues. Tesla 3 only commenced deliveries in Australia recently as
well. So maybe 3 to 5 years before we see them come onto the resale market.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 15:54, EVDL Administrator via EV 
wrote:

> On 22 Aug 2019 at 11:56, Glenn Van Vlemen via EV wrote:
>
> > I have been looking at 2nd hand leafs but find the battery degradation
> > severely limits the use of these vehicles.
>
> If it's in your budget, you might look for a 2016-2018 Renault Zoe ZE40.
> The battery is different from the Leaf's (though I think both are made by
> LG), and because of lighter weight and the larger 41kWh battery, the Zoe
> has
> significantly more range to start with.  In summer you can expect 300km,
> and
> in winter 150-200km.
>
> The ZE22 batteries have proven to be fairly durable, even with air
> cooling,
> but it's probably too soon to tell for the ZE40s.  Regardless, with your
> 55km commute, you would have plenty of room for degradation.
>
> The main challenge with used Zoes is finding one that includes the
> battery.
> When a Zoe sold new with a leased battery, that car is stuck with a leased
> battery until it goes to the boneyard.
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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Re: [EVDL] Leaf 2use in VT: buying a used EV ...

[Glenn Van Vlemen via EV]

I have been looking at 2nd hand leaf’s but find the battery degradation
severely limits the use of these vehicles.

Some progress appears to be on the horizon for installing additional
capacity to restore and or improve range. But not commercially available
yet and potential issues around insurance, liabilities etc yet to be
clearly defined.

In Australia this appears to make these vehicles impractical and thus
valueless!

I do a 55km commute daily so would like a 80% charged range of > 80km to be
useful. Then there is the issue of continued battery degradation and
further reduction of range into the future.

So the leaf appears to me to have a very limited life and market. Pity as
the cars are on the market for reasonable prices now, assuming you can
accept the range limitations.


On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 09:13, Seth Rothenberg via EV 
wrote:

> I second much of the advice shared here already,
> and I would add one thing.
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 8:52 PM brucedp5 via EV  wrote:
>
> > I would not waste time on ay leaf that is older than 2014. That is the
> > model
> > year offering onboard 6kW chargers and had worked out most of the charger
> > bugs.
> >
>
> I have a 2013 Nissan Leaf S, 24KWh battery, theoretical range 84 miles.
> I bought this car 200 miles from home on a day that was 18 degrees F.
> Let's just say it's good I had plenty of time and a really good friend
> to take turns with.
>
> In the 2016 model year, two additional options became available -
> Heat pump instead of resistive heat and
> 30 KWh battery  (Not on all models in 2016).
>
> It would be worth studying if these options are available
> in your area, as I have been told they make a big difference in range.
>
> If you buy a Leaf, one or more of the groups can share
> more tips, like using seat warmers to warm people
> conductively instead of the high cost of physically moving
> air through the heating system.
>
> Good luck, please let us know :-)
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